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Was Fergie right about Gerrard and Lampard?

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23rd October, 2013
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Much of Sir Alex Ferguson’s autobiography will have led to wailing and a gnashing of teeth – which is, of course, the whole point. Why would you buy it if it was all nice and fuzzy?

What will have people on the Kings Road and at the Kop particularly agitated, however, is the assertion that Frank Lampard is “not an elite international player” and Steven Gerrard is “not a top top player”.

This despite Ferguson expressing remorse at not signing either previously.

So is he right or is he just selling books?

Firstly, for the purposes of this debate let me say I’m a Chelsea supporter and a huge Frank Lampard fan. Lampard is a Chelsea legend, many would argue their greatest ever player.

But does that make him truly world class?

In a debate about Chelsea’s greatest ever player for instance, a recent name that would pop up is Dennis Wise. A great servant and fan favourite, yes, but hardly world class.

Wise of course played at a time when Chelsea moved from mid table to a top six team, whereas Lampard has won leagues and European titles with Chelsea.

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Being a fan favourite or even being voted your club’s greatest ever player doesn’t necessarily put you in the category of being world class either. We can take Ferguson’s own Manchester United as an example.

Ryan Giggs was recently voted their greatest ever player, while Eric Cantona has won many polls also.

Was Giggs as talented as Ronaldo or George Best? Was he as influential as Roy Keane or Bryan Robson, did he score as many goals as Bobby Charlton? Yes, he has won lots of medals, but so has Gary Neville and he doesn’t figure in the debate too widely.

For those who put Cantona at the top, was he remotely as good as Dennis Bergkamp? Did he ever do it in Europe on in a World Cup?

What he did have were a couple of mercurial domestic seasons. He was also a swaggering maverick who stuck two fingers up to everyone, he was a cult (that’s an ‘l’) footballer who the fans adored, but again, that doesn’t make you world class.

While this reasoning may seem to have little so far to do with the debate about Gerrard and Lampard, the point is to aim to remove the emotion from the debate and look at the players on their merits.

We’ll start with Lampard, who has been an incredible servant to Chelsea.

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He is possibly the most consistent Premiership player of his generation, scoring bags of goals every season. He has a good range of passing, has missed few matches through injury and is rarely guilty of having a bad game.

On the flip side, his play has been described as one-dimensional (not by me, I would add). He lacks pace, has not always excelled at international level and many of his goals are scuffed or are deflections.

He also takes the penalties and a few people used to call him fat. I wish I was that fat, I can tell you.

Gerrard has likewise served Liverpool incredibly in a period which – one Champions League win aside– has been a pretty miserable one for the Reds.

He has scored plenty of goals, has had some incredible inspirational performances in big matches and finals, has been loyal, and is an incredibly dynamic presence within the team, as well as being a natural leader.

Against this probably counts being injury prone, being inconsistent for his country until recently, and a lack of being able to do anything on the pitch at any speed other than one hundred miles an hour.

Both will go down as legends, and quite rightly so – their achievements are immense. The question is, would you call them ‘world class’?

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Lampard has been more consistent than Gerrard and has won far more. Few would argue, however, against Gerrard at his peak being superior to Lampard.

The extra pace and dynamism alone that he had made that difference.

Both at their peaks, however, would suffer by comparison to say Zinedine Zidane or even (and I hate to say it) Roy Keane at the peak of their own powers.

Both those players were respectively the very best at what they did.

Does either player have the ability and skill that say Edgar Davids or a Clarence Seedorf did? Again probably not.

Many would argue that Paul Scholes was vastly superior to either, although that’s a debate I personally think is a far closer one.

I was thinking of a greatest Chelsea eleven as an example. If you played 4-2-3-1 as is currently in vogue, and you had Lampard as part of the ‘2’, could you honestly say he was better than either Makelele or Ballack?

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At their respective peaks both were incredible players and gave wonderful balance to a team.

If by definition of being elite or world class you give weight to consistency, then both players deserve to be counted so. If it’s about pure ability, then the argument becomes tougher.

Ryan Giggs for instance has achieved everything there is to achieve, yet Marc Overmars at his peak was a far better player and Giggs never got close ever to having an entire season like Gareth Bale had last year.

Would either as of now be remembered favourably to Giggs? Bale, of course, has time on his side.

As mentioned earlier, Michael Ballack had more ability than Lampard, possibly by a distance, but who would Chelsea fans vote for? Lampard of course, as I probably would as well.

I would agree with Ferguson about Graeme Souness being better than Gerrard, because Gerrard cannot dictate the pace and rhythm of a game in the way that Souness could. Many (or even most) Liverpool fans would disagree.

If the debate is whether they were as brilliant at the peak of their games as the Zidanes and Keanes, then the answer is probably no.

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If that means that they are not world class, then I’m sure Chelsea and Liverpool fans will settle for not having world-class players.

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