The Ogre pricks the Verbeek balloon
By Jesse Fink, 6 Mar 2009 Jesse Fink is a Roar Pro
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- Archie Thompson, football, Pim Verbeek, Socceroos
It’s been a dramatic sort of week for national men’s coach Pim Verbeek, first with Sasa Ognenovski coming out in the press and bucketing the Dutchman for destroying his dream of representing the Socceroos.
Then Verbeek himself going on the backfoot and publicly apologising for calling Socceroos striker Archie Thompson “absolutely hopeless” in Jakarta last month.
Verbeek has been weathering all sorts of direct and veiled criticism for his no-frills football and no-frills talking for a year now, but the level of antipathy towards him has probably never been so high.
And it comes at a strange time, with Australia virtually one game away from securing automatic qualification for South Africa 2010.
I will declare that I have had a coffee or two with Verbeek over the time he’s been in the country and I enjoy a good personal relationship with him. But I’ve never been afraid to tell him what I think he might be doing wrong or could be doing better (inasmuch as my opinion counts for anything) and to his credit he always listens. He might not agree but he listens – and that is the mark of a gentleman.
Verbeek, however, has strong opinions of his own and he isn’t normally one to resile from them, so it is notable that he has toned down his act. But he would have sensed that perhaps he had stepped over the line with his recent brutal assessments of the A-League and the ructions they caused in the press and among A-League coaches and chief executives who have been working overtime to lure representative players home.
By far the most damaging salvo fired at Verbeek, though, was Ognenovski’s, who has now left the country for Korean club football and Macedonian national-team honours.
“If [Verbeek] doesn’t respect the league, he should keep his thoughts to himself,” he railed this week. “He’s way too harsh. I mean some of the games I’ve seen from the Dutch league are horrible. You get good and bad games anywhere. Basically, he’s bagging the players that he wants to go out there and do a job against teams like Kuwait. That’s not going to motivate them, it’s going to destroy their confidence. I’ve spoken to a few of them and they just shake their heads every time he says something about the A-League.”
This is a revealing quote, because any player on the fringe of national-team selection is loath to reveal any reservations he might have about the manager or his methods for fear of jeopardising his career.
But Ognenovski had nothing to lose and, fresh from the grand final and with six Adelaide team-mates in the squad for the Socceroos’ 5 March match against Kuwait in Canberra, he would have known what is going on inside the camp – and inside the minds of the players.
Whether or not Verbeek or Ognenovski is right on this issue is really beside the point.
It is imperative that the perception of division between team and manager be addressed and nipped in the bud immediately. And that requires compromise from both camps – Verbeek perhaps holding his fire more than usual and the “Socceroos Lite” players (our A-League Socceroos) learning to accept his methods and some of his “madness”.
Verbeek is an excellent manager who has an international track record that is second to none in this country. He deserves respect.
I’m sure he’s enough of a man, though, to also admit he could start reciprocating a little as well.
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derfurt said | March 6th 2009 @ 6:58am | Report comment
‘inasmuch as my opinion counts for anything’.
Good to see you finally getting something right.
sledgeross said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:09am | Report comment
It was one of the worst Australian sporting matches Ive ever witnessed. I kept having to change it because I was so embarrassed. Pondeljak and Moore were the only ones who didnt look scared (Matt Simon, didnt look scared either, but he’s a mean bugger!). Maybe the Ogster was right, Pims criticism sapped the confidence of an already technically inept squad.
But at the end of the day, these blokes are professionals. They should be able to take criticism. All they have done is prove Pim right. I thought he was harsh, but he is also spot on. These blokes are not good enough, or Pim doesnt manage them well enough to hide their weaknesses.
I mean, our most dangerous target man was Robbie Cornflakes when he came on….
cosmos forever said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Agree Sledge, but Pim is meant to be a professional too and they should have taken that criticism in a closed and honest team environment. They looked shell shocked and lacking any motivation (and their skill level was appalling so I’m blaming coach and players!).
Going back to your earlier post about image Jesse, a couple of reflections:
*The ridiculously high numbers on the players backs – not sure of the reason but had a feeling of “you are not the top 11″ about it
*The manager sitting high up in the stands and leaving the coaching to his assistant (in tracksuit just to anger you..) reeks of “you are not important enough to have me on the sidelines”
I’m over analysing, but guess what – so would the players he was expecting to get the most of.
dasilva said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Cosmos
Pim Verbeek is suspended for 3 match as he was sent off in the 3rd place playoff against Japan when he was coaching Korea.
THis is 2nd match of his suspension
Greg said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Archie was “absolutely hopeless” last night. In the team to score goals, he fluffed his lines with that pathetic left foot strike. No wonder he looked so embarrassed when being interviewed after the game. For mine, Ognenovski has been crying over spilt milk. I don’t think we will see the A League Socceroos again for a while yet. Well done to Kuwait, they played our team off the park.
cosmos forever said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Fair enough De Silva. The numbers?
Slippery Jim said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Verbeek was serving the second of a three-match sideline ban, Cosmos. Please try to look at the facts first before jumping to conclusions. This match proves Pim’s points about the A-League. The players are simply not good enough at international level.
dasilva said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:34am | Report comment
I think with Ogre, he was playing a game with Pim saying pick me or I’ll play for Macedonia. Pim didn’t buy into it and now Ogre is pissed.
Greg said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Cosmos; non of those wearing the gold last night are part of our current first 11, with the possible exception of Craig Moore. He had a poor game, and may be dropped for the Uzbek game. In the Asian Cup players must wear the same number all through the tournament, so it is best to leave numbers 1-18 for the players that will represent us in the finals, IF we qualify.
dasilva said | March 6th 2009 @ 8:37am | Report comment
The numbers
Hard to explain it but Pim wanted to use european players later on in the ACQ so he reserved all the first 30 numbers for the European players and give the A-league team ridiculously high numbers as AFC states you can’t change numbers throughout the campaign.
To me, that’s gives a signal that you are 2nd rate socceroos.
SJ
Under Graham Arnold, we defeated Kuwait 2-0 with an A-League team. Granted it was a stronger team before the Asia exodus but I don’t think Pim should be completely excused from criticism.