The positives and negatives against Denmark
By Paddy Higgs, 3 Jun 2010 Paddy Higgs is a Roar Guru
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With the naming of Pim Verbeek’s final Socceroos World Cup squad comes the end of more than a dash of uncertainty, because while the speculation will now swing to the makeup of Verbeek’s side for the opener against Germany on June 12, at least the 23 selected know they are in the Dutchman’s thinking.
Lucas Neill and Mark Schwarzer may have had the Germans pencilled in for months now, but the same couldn’t have been said for the likes of Michael Beauchamp, Carl Valeri and Dario Vidosic.
They and a host of teammates can now put their heads down ahead of the clash with Joachim Loew’s side. It will come as some relief.
Relief also arrives in the form of Australia’s far more accomplished defensive display in the 1-0 win over Denmark on Tuesday night.
If nothing else – and truth be told there was little to celebrate attacking-wise – the Socceroos’ restored some faith with a worried Australian football public.
Denmark seldom looked capable of creating much in scoring opportunities, but the Scandanavians saw nothing but obstacles every time they lifted the eyes goalward.
Craig Moore answered some critics with a solid display, but the real source of the stability came from the redrafting of first-choice full-backs Scott Chipperfield and Luke Wilkshire.
Ironically, Chipperfield could be used as an offensive weapon for the Socceroos, having finished the Swiss Super League season with 13 goals.
But Verbeek appears to value his reliability at left-back far greater.
In Wilkshire, the man plucked from obscurity by Guus Hiddink in 2006, Verbeek has a tenacious battler unwilling to give an inch.
In addition, both offer the ability to get forward, as Wilkshire – his country’s best against Denmark – showed on a handful of occasions. Moore and Neill appeared infinitely more comfortable in the centre of defence than the outing against New Zealand, and it might have been down to the full-backs to their left and right more than anything.
But while the defensive display was much-improved, the Socceroos’ attacking prowess showed little polish once again.
Granted, Australia is still missing two noted creators in Harry Kewell and Brett Emerton. Too much is expected, however, of targetman Joshua Kennedy. We all know the towering striker is handy with his head, and he reacted smartly to take his goal against the Danes.
But it was one of the few moments of quality of which Kennedy was involved.
Perhaps it was the new Adidas ball. Or maybe the altitude. Either way, Kennedy’s touch was heavy and he struggled to get involved.
Granted, he lacked support from the midfield. But this is not a man capable of the sort of role Mark Viduka played at the 2006 World Cup.
If Verbeek is to persist with Kennedy up front, then he needs to ensure that his midfield push up to feed on any of the scraps that may fall from Kennedy’s head. Australia will need to play the 4-3-3 often vaunted, not the 4-5-1 in its diguise.
Still, the showing against Denmark would be – you would assume – just the sort of performance Pim Verbeek would have wanted.
Whether or not the Socceroos will be able to score the goals needed to take them to the Round of 16, however, remains to be seen.

June 3rd 2010 @ 6:53am
Alders said | June 3rd 2010 @ 6:53am | Report comment
The positives are that we beat a country with a population slightly large than Sydney. The negative is that we didn’t beat them by more. Job done.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:22am
AndyRoo said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:22am | Report comment
I guess you don’t rate the Bledisloe cup then since Denmark has a bigger population than that of NZ and has won the European Championships before.
I wouldn’t start a debate about crowds with an AFL fan and likewise I wouldn’t expect A rugby fan to start bagging people for getting excited about beating countries with small populations.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:56pm
Trusters said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:56pm | Report comment
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:57pm
Alders said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:57pm | Report comment
No argument. We ought to beat New Zealand there as well. The only thing that saves that situation is the amazing world class athletes the Kiwis have and history. Otherwise it would be pretty dead and boring.
Yes it has but then so has Greece.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:34am
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:34am | Report comment
5.5 million people who see football as their major sport. How many Australians feel the same? Possibly more however as the League and AFL officiados can attest, it’s not 21 million.
June 3rd 2010 @ 12:21pm
Dan said | June 3rd 2010 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
this is also the team that had the best defensive record in the european WDQs and was the first side to qualify in the region… on yeah, and thier group included portugal and sweden… all three far better than anybody the socceroos faced in qualifying…
June 3rd 2010 @ 3:39pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
and Norway from memory, who have a FIFA ranking around the same as ours.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:59pm
Alders said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:59pm | Report comment
Well it isn’t 5.5 million either. You go to Europe (where I have lived the last five years) and not everyone loves football. Certainly it is the biggest sport by far and draws most of the attention but even in England it isn’t universally popular. It is like saying everyone in NZ loves rugby and everyone in Victoria loves AFL.
June 3rd 2010 @ 8:45pm
Dip said | June 3rd 2010 @ 8:45pm | Report comment
As Peter said need to play 4-4-3 to keep any interest and support in the game. playing sole striker isn’t getting enough support and not strong enough to play sole. Perhaps Cahill and Kewell will push in the box and play as strikers supporting Kennedy.
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:00pm
Alders said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:00pm | Report comment
More goals is the way forward.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:03am
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:03am | Report comment
I just wish the Socceroos weren’t quite so boring to watch. It really is like watching paint dry. And not very interesting paint either – a sort of a greyish beige. It’s the only colour Verbeek has in cupboard, unfortunately.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:11am
JF said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:11am | Report comment
My God yes! I really tried to watch the Denmark game the other night, and Rugby cops flak for being boring? Then I saw the promo where the message is – Australia can’t even say the word “friendly” What bollocks, that is one of the most sedate contests I have ever seen, even the commentators were bored stupid.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:59am
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
It’s not often that you see an elite sport contest where you can genuinely say “it wasn’t about the result” but this game was one of them. It was clearly a training run, where strategies were the end game.
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:39am
Galloping Guru said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:39am | Report comment
Well i guess i should not comment on how boring soccer can be then !!, only soccer supporters can do that.
June 3rd 2010 @ 12:37pm
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
It can be very boring, as can AFL, NRL and RU. Personally, I find AFL about as exciting as mopping the floor, but as you know, Guru, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
June 3rd 2010 @ 12:46pm
JF said | June 3rd 2010 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
No, beauty is in the eye of the football supporter, watching football. There is no other beauty in the world, only beautiful football. Just ask SBS’ chief football analyst.
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:01pm
Alders said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:01pm | Report comment
Hence I go fo Holland. Hup Holland Hup.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:44am
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Actually I thought the game went well. The Jabulani ball is skipping through the air making it difficult for quick forward thrusts, as was seen by the number of times the Danes tried a through ball and it got ahead of them. The idea of the friendly is to ensure that the game is built up from the back, which was mentioned in Tony’s blog. I thought Holman played well as a link man and we looked better when he was on. the midfield and defence were compact and high up the pitch which gave precious little room for movement.
I’m not so worried about Kennedy. He was in the right position at the right times and also was willing to be a part of the build up play for goals rather than just lumbering in waiting for the cross. I’m more concerned about the build-up that precedes this.
Pim has a few days to work on the front third. The USA game needs to be a more flowing performance as we approach goals. The key is that we get better each match; that appears to be happening.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:54am
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:54am | Report comment
I too was impressed by Holman. His pace and industry looked much more useful than in the past. He is genuinely quick – a factor we are sorely lacking. Perhaps this could be the time for him to break into a higher level? Some of those turns he did at pace were pure class.
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:00pm
Tom said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
Yeah, Holman was very impressive.
Unfortunately he plays in the same position as Cahill, so I’m not sure how much time he’ll get on the park.
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:07pm
Rob Gremio said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
I’ve always thought that Holman was a useful addition to the squad, so I’m pleased that others do too! the fact is, this season he’s had a lot more gametime than the season before, meaning he’s probably a bit sharper than he was during some of the Qualifiers, meaning his touch and distribution are better. He held the ball well when under pressure, too. I think he’s a quality player.
As for the game itself, I was pleased with the way the lads controlled the back third, and some of the linkup play was decent. I especially liked the way Wilkshire got in behind the Danes on the right (on occasions), and I thought that Garcia was a decent addition to the side too. He didn’t set the world on fire, but I think he did ok.
Ben, I tend to agree with you about Kennedy. I would hazard a guess that his improved ability to involve himself in build up play has come from playing in Japan, where technical football is very much de riguer. He wasn’t perfect, but there were times, like one moment in the first half when he exchanged passes with Chipperfield, where he was very a very handy addition.
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:25pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:25pm | Report comment
Holman is actually looking far, far better than I can ever recall
his first touch, dribbling, passing, all look much better than a year ago
he always had the engine and the knack of getting in good possies
hopefully he won’t butcher it when he gets there
still a poor man’s Timmy Cahill, but, beggars cant be choosers
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:28pm
Rob Gremio said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Well, that might be why Cahill plays in the EPL and Holman is in the Eredivisie, but I dare say that if he continues the way he’s going, he may well end up at a bigger club. Time will tell.
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:34pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:34pm | Report comment
the fact that he’s in the Eredivisie puts him in Australia’s top 12 best players these days
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:43pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:43pm | Report comment
different type of player, actually. That’s what makes him so good off the bench is the fact he can offer something different and hence change the flow of a game.
June 3rd 2010 @ 9:58am
peter said | June 3rd 2010 @ 9:58am | Report comment
“Australia will need to play the 4-4-3 often vaunted, not the 4-5-1 in its diguise.”
Gosh if only we could play 4-4-3 – that extra man would be a real bonus.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:31am
Phil H said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:31am | Report comment
Well done Vince Grella on having appropriate self-discipline for the first two minutes before his first lunge.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:54am
jimbo said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Grella is a major concern.
He is lucky to be on the field in the 2 games he’s played in the leadup.
He seems to be taking out his frustrations of an interrupted season of injuries on his opponents.
Pimbo will pick him as one of his first choice players.
The WC referees won’t be so lenient, he’ll get sent off against Germany – its just a question of when and how long we have to play with 10 men. He’ll also miss the game against Ghana.
June 3rd 2010 @ 12:39pm
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
Agree on all counts. He will be selected and he will be sent off at some point. Verbeek is in the thrall of his senior players. He hasn’t got the balls to drop any of them – that is very clear.
June 3rd 2010 @ 8:07pm
The Bear said | June 3rd 2010 @ 8:07pm | Report comment
Perhaps the game plan is just that. The team with 10 men ALWAYS plays better .. and usually wins, imo.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:39am
TC21 said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:39am | Report comment
I’m sure Australia would be more attacking with a 4-4-3 formation, but may not be able to take the field.
On a more serious note, unfortunately the majority of Australia’s injury worries have come in the front third and that would surely have an impact on our build up to date. Hopefully the likes of Bresciano and Cahill can get more match fitness against the US and you’d certainly like to see Emerton and Kewell at least come off the bench in that game if they are to be considered against Germany.
Pim will obviously, rightly or wrongly, set up with a strong defence in our group matches and try to catch teams out with a few half chances. Timmy Cahill has saved us numerous times in the past but may need some help for use to pick up any points.
June 3rd 2010 @ 10:53am
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 10:53am | Report comment
not 443 again
why is every second football thread on the Roar talking about this fabled 443 formation?
on another thread I mused with some posters, cant remember who they, might have been Rob Gremio or Ben from Pyongyang, that with the likes of Higuita or Campos in your team, you could field a genuine 443 formation
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:00am
Colin N said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:00am | Report comment
“why is every second football thread on the Roar talking about this fabled 443 formation?”
It would certainly give Australia an advantage!!
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:05am
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:05am | Report comment
theres certainly something in the group subconcious happening there, I have no doubt
and apologies to Ben, I now see above that you’re not from Pyong Yang afterall
June 3rd 2010 @ 11:22am
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 11:22am | Report comment
No problems, Harvey. Though posting from Pyongyang would be rather cool.
June 3rd 2010 @ 12:27pm
Sars said | June 3rd 2010 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
haha yeah cool in an illegal kind of way, just like how “Futurama does not endorse the cooool crime of stealing.”
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:11pm
Rob Gremio said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
Harvey,
No, you weren’t debating this with me, but I can see your point. You could also throw in players like Chilavert (spelling), the former Paraguay keeper, who took free kicks for them, or the São Paulo FC goalkeeper, Rogério Ceni, who is the all-time record holder for goals scored by a keeper. he takes free kicks and penalties for his club, and his very handy between the sticks as well.
In fact, why wasn’t I in this debate about the wondrous 443? I should have been, as Goalkeeping is a special knowledge area for me, given I am a keeper, and trialled with a few Brazilian clubs in that position many moons ago…
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:30pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
Rob
then you would know better than the rest of us that eccentric keepers make the world go round
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:43pm
Rob Gremio said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
I certainly would. I tend to be orthodox in playing style, unorthodox in attire, or at least in presentation of said attire. that’s how I express my eccentricity…
But we keepers get a bad rap – we’re always considered eccentric, or crazy, or both. I mean, just because we enjoy playing in a position where we are almost always anonymous, until we screw up and cost a team a goal that is, where all of our mistakes are scritinised beyond reasonable levels, where we are made scapegoat for terrible team performances (viz. Theo at Norwich), and often are only involved in games sporadically at best, or all the time, if the team is crap.
On second thoughts…
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:55pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
poor ol’ Theo
all strength to yers I say!
there are advantages like longevity
Dino Zoff captained Italy to a world cup aged 40, and even Schwarzer might be thinking of going around for another 4 years (and he’d be the same age, maybe more)
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:12pm
Towser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
What I want to know is how do you choose to be a goalkeeper?
Its a position most footballers avoid.
In our playground games I’d rather have been the other goalpost to make up the goal when we only had one spare cardigan to lay on the ground.
Now this is a goalkeeper you should not have messed with, William Henry “Fatty” Foulke :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Foulke_(footballer)
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:15pm
AndyRoo said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
I don’t mind the odd stint in goals for indoor soccer, I’m completely hopeless at it but you can have a drink while your doing it.
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:18pm
Rob Gremio said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Now Towser, certainly you must understand that you don’t choose to be a goalkeeper, goalkeeping chooses you.
I fell into it. I was 8 years old, and ostensibly a left-sided midfielder (not terrible, but not good either), and one day, at an U/9 tournament our keeper decided he wanted to have a run on the field, and they asked for volunteers. I thought, “why not?”, and the rest is history. turned out I was a natural and I only ever played on the field against teams where I knew that there was no chance of them winning after that – usually as a striker. I scored a hatful of goals too.
But the point is, goalkeeping is a calling. You either are one, or you’re not. So I understand your point about wanting to be the other post rather than the keeper…
Fatty Foulke sounds like quite the character. Typical that he played for the Red half of Sheffield – madmen the lot of them!
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:27pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:27pm | Report comment
I don’t wish to put down the important callin of bein a keeper, but I’m a bit like the sheffielder, when it came to my turn at being in goals, I was as selfish as they came and would try and avoid it like the plague
June 3rd 2010 @ 1:33pm
Paddy Higgs said | June 3rd 2010 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
* Formation fixed, apologies lads. Cheers for pointing it out.
June 3rd 2010 @ 2:07pm
Wug said | June 3rd 2010 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Well it was a win but it does look like that ball is going to take some getting used to!
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:36pm
Brian said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
There are 4 holes at the moment Moore, Grella, Garcia, Kennedy.
- Grella I’m pretty confident can either improve or be replaced by the serviceable Valeri.
- Hopefully Emerton fires up against the US to solve Garcia.
- The last two holes are massive, the Moore one will be there come matchday, to be fair to Pim in 4 years no-one has stood up, the striker one could be solved if Harry is fit or Kennedy improves but I don’t like our chances.
June 3rd 2010 @ 4:47pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | June 3rd 2010 @ 4:47pm | Report comment
Kennedy? 7 goals in 18 matches, only a few of which he’s started in……. 14 goals in 24 starts for Nagoya…….. perhaps you should elaborate a little more Brian as quite frankly I’m confused.
June 3rd 2010 @ 5:30pm
Brian said | June 3rd 2010 @ 5:30pm | Report comment
As per the article his performance against Denmark was not great, he scored but otherwise his touch was heavy and he is no Mark Viduka, nor Klose, Gyan or Zigic for that matter.
Our strategy is to play on the break meaning we need a front man who can hold the ball and has pace. Viduka had the first quality as could Kewell. The Kewell of old actually had both. Kennedy up front alone will hardly trouble our opponents turning our strategy into keeping scpres at 0-0 until the dying minutes when we try and conjure a goal.
Kennedy does have advantages, and I think he makes a great sub coming on after 70 mins in trying to conjure that goal but he is not a quality front-man for the entire game. Particularly given the height of our three group opponents
June 3rd 2010 @ 5:39pm
Realfootball said | June 3rd 2010 @ 5:39pm | Report comment
I can’t see Emerton being in shape. Another injury? And how much football has he played this year? He may surprise us all and come on and star against the US, but the odds are not good.
The answer on the right is clearly Culina. Witness the last 2 games how the team cohesion and pressuring of opponents has improved when he has moved to the right. The fact that Garcia was there for a half, then Culina for a half, against Denmark tells me that Verbeek isn’t counting on Emerton and was testing his two options. Culina was much more effective. Would not be surprised to see that – with Valeri in with Grella – to be the starting formation against the US. As I understand it, Emmo isn’t even in full training yet.
June 3rd 2010 @ 5:51pm
Brian said | June 3rd 2010 @ 5:51pm | Report comment
That makes sense, especially considering Jedinak was also kept in the squad. However you would think Valeri would have come on to play a bit more with Grella. No doubt both Kewell and Emerton need substantial game time against US or we’re stuck with what we’ve got.
June 4th 2010 @ 12:10am
Dan said | June 4th 2010 @ 12:10am | Report comment
Denmark played their worst match in three years but they were still better than Australia in defense, midfield and attack. Australia played and always play very slowly – not passing the ball quickly. Denmark are masters of the quick passing game and it is unbelievable that Australia are higher on the FIFA ranking list. Aus should be around 50 on that list and Denmark around 20. Aus have faced easy opposition in qualification and have only just managed to get through thanks to a few easy goals. Denmark qualified convincingly, beating Portugal and Sweden on the way.
June 4th 2010 @ 9:12am
Realfootball said | June 4th 2010 @ 9:12am | Report comment
But Australia still won, and by the last quarter of the game were looking much the better team. Perhaps you are overrating Denmark. They looked good early, but faded as the match went on.
June 4th 2010 @ 10:12am
Harvey the Scouser said | June 4th 2010 @ 10:12am | Report comment
theres something in what Dan is saying
I remember the Denmark v Australia friendly from 2 or 3 years ago
Denmark absolutely decimated Australia, it was no contest
been a long time since I had seen such blindingly fast wing play
the ball probably affected them more than Australia
June 4th 2010 @ 1:07pm
Realfootball said | June 4th 2010 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
The difference being that those same wingers are now 32-33 and are not blindingly fast anymore. Like Harry Kewell.
June 4th 2010 @ 1:20pm
Brian said | June 4th 2010 @ 1:20pm | Report comment
Tomasson and Gronkjiar have declined. The Danes were also underdone by spending less time in SA before the game. Having said that based on those perfomances both countries will struggle to get out of their groups.
June 5th 2010 @ 11:18am
Dan said | June 5th 2010 @ 11:18am | Report comment
Rommedahl could still qualify for the EC athletics in 100m. Besides, Denmark now have Christian Eriksen who is only 18 and youngest at the WC and extremely fast. He is deemed “the greatest talent in the Eresdivisie”. Denmark faded in the last 15 mins because they got tired in the thin air and the match result was unimportant — this acc. to Morten Olsen. In addition, Denmark had taken their best in-form players off the pitch, and their danger man and last-gasp-winner expert Nic Bendtner was not even in the squad. The ball, the thin air, the pitch, the jetlag, injuries (Bendtner, Kjær, Sørensen, Tomasson, Kahlenberg)… I think they ball must be mentioned as problem no. 1 for a team with a penchant for many stations and precision balls forward. Denmark however will do well in SA if they can get used to the ball and conditions. Aus more problematic but the high defense looked good.