Wallabies beaten by a team built like dart players
By Spiro Zavos, 21 Jun 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Before the Australia-England Teat began, high up in the stands of the ANZ Stadium, I was asked how I thought the Test would turn out. I gazed around me. Most of the crowd were wearing their yellow scarfes and beanies, making the arena look like a field of golden daffodils.
In a section behind the posts were a phalanx of England supporters in their white jerseys. “I reckon the score will be around 30 to 12, the Wallabies way,” I told my friend.
And early on in the Test, despite the England opening penalty, it looked as though this overly optimistic prediction might work out. And the reason for this was that the Wallaby scrum seemed to be greatly improved on the disintegrating mess of the Perth Test.
From the first scrum, the Wallaby front row held up and managed to execute a slow-motion wheel, which gave the feed to Australia. From the following scrum, the England pack was penalised.
I’ve heard some mighty roars at the ANZ Stadium in my time, but the explosion of sound, like a hundred cannons going off at once, created an incredible moment.
In general, the Wallaby scrum held up throughout a tough night of scrumming. But it must be acknowledged that two of the penalties England kicked came from scrum errors by the Australian pack.
The fact remains, after watching the All Blacks and Springboks (who went off the boil in the second half of their Test against Italy) defeat two strong scrumming sides over the weekend, the Wallabies will be in dire trouble if their front line props and hookers aren’t available by the time the Tri-Nations Tests are played.
The improvement in the Wallaby scrum, though, was cancelled out by an unacceptable fall-off in the intensity of the Wallabies forward play in the rucks and mauls, and in their overall defensive play, which is usually a strong point in the team’s game.
It is a bit like a golfer with the yips with his putting getting this right and then finding that his driving game has turned sour.
Both England’s tries came from dreadful Wallaby defensive work.
Ben Youngs, a terrific Sevens Rugby player, scuttled from a short lineout when Dean Mumm ran straight for the number 10 and then swerved past James O’Connor for a telling try.
The try scored by Chris Ashton, a big, fast winger, also involved a missed tackle by O’Connor.
The dash for the try-line came after a long series of phases as England bashed away from one side of the field to another, until Ashton raced through near a maul to speed away for a great try.
England were too big for the Wallabies across the field.
They broke tackles and imposed themselves in the rucks and mauls. This size advantage was accentuated by the way England was able to slow down the game, generally when a scrum was going to be set, with runners in their blue shirts flooding on to the field (there seemed to be ten of them on the England bench!)
The point about all this is that this England side, aside from a couple of exceptions, would never pass a stringent skin-fold test. As one of the reserve props waddled on to the field, I remarked to the editors of The Roar sitting beside me: “He’s got the build of a darts player.”
These darts players were never subjected to the torture of having to run back and forward, across one way and then the other way, chasing backs and forwards moving the ball in hand quickly the way, say, the All Blacks tormented the big Wales pack so clinically and savagely at Carisbrook earlier in the night.
England were allow to dictate the pace of the game, through the stoppages system and the brain-dead kicking tactics of the Wallabies.
They kicked more in one half of this Test, make that one quarter of the Sydney Test, than they did in the entire 80 minutes ar Perth.
Why? Surely they weren’t under instructions.
And then there was the poor display from Will Genia, who was clearly affected by his strapped leg. Genia’s passing was not as crisp and long as we’ve come to expect. And then he compounded this by adopting the emperor penguin tactic of standing over the ball, as if he was trying to hatch it.
This business of letting the ball lie in the back of the ruck while a flat-line forward attack is being put into place is a complete nonsense, in my opinion. It allows the defence to re-group, settle and target the next runner.
I think I’ve seen only one try coming out of this slow-motion type of set-up.
So what was Genia doing?
Again, I find it hard to believe that he was playing to the instructions of his coach. I agree with some comments made yesterday on The Roar that Genia should have been hooked and Luke Burgess brought on to play, hopefully, in the manner he did at Perth and not how he played for the NSW Waratahs.
England got their victory, their first in Australia since 2003 and only their third in 16 Tests here since the first in 1963.
So this is a great achievement for Martin Johnson and his team, which included several promising younger players.
But this team cannot be compared in any way, across the positions, to Sir Clive Woodward’s side of 2003 which defeated the Wallabies at Melbourne and in the Rugby World Cup final. Woodward’s side, in my opinion, was the finest England side since 1870 and one of the great teams in the history of rugby.
Johnson’s team is overweight, not quick enough around the field, lacking in initiative in its tactics, and has its number 10 standing in the quarter back position most of the time. But like good dart players, they can be formidable if they allowed to perform their simple tactics and plays at the pace that suits them.
This gets us back to the Wallabies.
Again in The Roar there has been criticism of Rocky Elsom’s captaincy. He should have taken the shot at goal at the end of the game instead of opting for a five-metre lineout.
Always take the points is the golden rule of Test rugby.
But, more importantly, he failed to get his team to quicken up their play when he saw England intent on slowing down the game. The All Blacks did this against Wales, tapping and running penalties outside their 22.
They also moved the ball around quickly and ran back most of the kicks.
The result was that the Welsh forwards, a pack like England that has players with, how shall we say it in this PC age, generous proportions around their girth, was literally run off its feet.
Robbie Deans will have to toughen up the second row, get some mongrel into a revamped back row, toughen up the tackling, get quicker service from his halves and more running from his backs for next week’s Test against Ireland.
Heads will have to roll.
As he told reporters after the Test, the result and the way the two team’s played was “significant for both sides.”
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Roger Rational said | June 21st 2010 @ 6:55am | Report comment
Dart players? Perhaps. But I see Thompson, Payne and Cole more as fat, angry bikers on a summer rampage. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to learn that they’re all fully paid up members of the Hell’s Angels. Thompson, in particular, carries the air of a man who’s just had his Harley Davidson stolen.
sheek said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:17am | Report comment
RR – I like that imagery…..
Maximus said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Lol well said.
Lion Red said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:32am | Report comment
I guess Matt Dunning and Ben Robinson have body fat percentage under 10% and have physiques of adonis’s compared to their English counterparts. Rather have dart players who can scrummage than massive hulks/pretty boys who couldn’t push their way through a wet paper bag.
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:24pm | Report comment
Dunning is an Adonis compared to Salesi Ma’afu. His belly was dragging off the ground come scrum time.
JCM said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Rodzilla is coming…….. and at 28 and 2 seasons in France plying his trade he might very well be the answer to tight-head and a scrum going forward. God its going to be good watching the Rebels shunting the reds and Tahs around!
Lion Red said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:31pm | Report comment
Rodzilla and Somerville will be an interesting and impressive proposition for opposing Super 15 forward packs!
Red Rooster said | June 22nd 2010 @ 12:08am | Report comment
Dream on JCM – he could not keep a nobody from the starting position at Bayonne where he was a bench player for two seasons. There was a delightful match where French prop Sylvain Marconnet popped him skywards, all 135kgs, and then drove him backwards. He will certainly provide entertainment but I am not sure for the right reason – that is if he makes the starting xv fro the rebels.
pothale said | June 21st 2010 @ 6:57am | Report comment
So to sum up, how the hell did Australia manage to lose against a cohort of NH english fatties, when SA and NZ were able to run rings around a similar cohort of NH welsh and italian fatties?
Maybe we’ll get the answer next week when the NH Irish fatties come to town.
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:00pm | Report comment
Damn those fat paddies, pothale. Damn them all to hell!
Literally one of the most inane, churlish and childish articles I have ever read. Lawes and Palmer overweight? Croft and Moody overweight? Youngs and Flood overweight? Hape overweight? Ashton, Cueto and Foden overweight? An embarassment to journalism frankly. This journalism is as bad as Robbie Deans’s coaching. Australia were beaten by a less experienced, tougher and more inventive intelligent team. The lack of match analysis seems to suggest that you didn’t even watch the game, Mr Zavos.
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:30pm | Report comment
Talking of fatties, pothale, here’s one for Mrs Pothale:
http://www.scrum.com/ireland/rugby/image/118077.html
pothale said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:17pm | Report comment
Indeed.
There must be something in the New Zealand water that has sparked Mr Buckley to life. It was a rare sight to see 21 stones of Irish beef gambolling down a pitch and reverse passing blind one-handed in attack. Or picking up one Riche McCaw and flinging him to the ground like so much cattle feed.
He actually seems to be enjoying himself.
Skinfold test Buckley?
Apparently he wears his socks around his ankles permanently cos the manufacturers haven’t figured out a way to get them stay up any higher around his rather large shins. But Adidas are on the job…..
“Built like a darts player” is not the phrase that really comes to mind – more “built like a brick sh1thouse’
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:49pm | Report comment
He should be enjoying himself. He has immense potential.
Buckley isn’t built like a house. He’s built like a factory, a chum factory that consumed all the chum.
Btw, I’m off on holiday again tomorrow, so won’t be around for a week or so. I trust that you, Colin and VC will hold the fort like Buckley holds a bag of Tayto… tightly.
pothale said | June 22nd 2010 @ 4:00am | Report comment
Now that’s good, Mr S.
Very sharp. Enjoy the holliers – mine don’t come around for a another four weeks, but all this sunshine helps the waiting.
Before you leave, what’s your prediction for the Oz/Ireland match?
Mr Saunders said | June 22nd 2010 @ 4:32am | Report comment
Geez, I wouldn’t like to make a guess without seeing the teams, pothale.
On one hand Ireland do look quite bedraggled (as sides are liable to look at this point in their season south of the border), but on the other hand their 3rd string side could have beaten a very motivated Maori side, which is no mean feat. Ultimately it’s hard to judge on the basis of the test v NZ in light of Heaslip’s red card and the fact I missed the test. Also, is Muldoon injured? If he is then that means an entirely new, and inexperienced, backrow.
I’m sure Australia will be motivated following their disastrous loss to England, but equally surely O’Driscoll and company will be equally motivated to leave a positive impression? I suspect the forward battle will be relatively equal given the pathetic tight work of Australia, but who will have the greater motivation to win the collisions?
If the Irish pack gain parity their backs are good enough to make the extra ground count. Conversely, if Ireland lose the collisions as England did in the 1st test… it could be a long night. Australia won’t want to be humiliated two weeks in a row.
Initially I would rate Australia 15 poitn favourites, but Ireland should never be written off… so… I’m gna mount a fence and avoid coming off it too far either side. Lineouts and scrums equal and Ireland to work hard but end up fatigued due to new combinations and general tiredness. I hope you can ram this prediction down my throat. Good luck.
scarlet said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:39pm | Report comment
I agree, also don’t know where the view that the scrums were good came from. I seem to remember a ten metre English drive. Spiro, you’re allowing your jingoism to overcome any pretence of neutral reporting. Taking lessons from Kearns and Martin? And I used to think that Gordon Bray was bad!
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:47pm | Report comment
Overall the Australian scrum had moments of parity, however they were still few and far between. If my memory serves me correctly Dan Cole gave Ben Daley yet another schooling.
scarlet said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:08pm | Report comment
I agree, and also think that England didn’t want to focus as hard on the scrum to the expense of trying to run the ball. As a result there were less scrums and less determination to drive them in to the ground. What did really frustrate me was the continual crooked feeds
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:23pm | Report comment
There is a difference between a crooked feed and literally putting the ball at the feet of the number 8 as Genia was doing. That was just ridiculous. Given that there was an IRB stricture to stop crooked feeds a year or so ago I don’t know what’s going on? That is frustrating but not as frustrating as this ‘article’. It’s humiliating.
On another note, Gatland may be forced to make some changest his week. A shame for Bishop as he’s had a good season.
I thought AW Jones, Jon Thomas and Gavin Thomas looked pretty lightweight at the ruck contest. Otherwise it was a typical Wales performance. So much promise… and then nothing. That’s frustrating, even for the neutral fan.
taylorbridge said | June 22nd 2010 @ 9:54am | Report comment
I agree with you. The English pack showed they were more mobile and aggressive. Is Rocky Elsom worth having in the team . I think he is the most uninvolved ( again,continuing his Super 14 lack of interest unless there is a try on ) form. Any one of the English forwards played with more involvement.
I watched the game again with the intention of solely watching Rocky. He just does not contribute in comparison to the others. I believe he is simply lazy.
Jimmy said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:38am | Report comment
Comments made about Genia being better than du Preez have been exposed. There is a very wide gulf between him and the master. Maybe he will develop his potential but his display was far below average. Slow passing(taking that step most times a la Gregan), poor kicking and just too sloooow about everything.Burgess should have replaced him early in the match.
The other aspect that surprised me was how the Wallabies allowed England to slow the pace of the game.And that aimless, brain dead kicking! What happened toto the team from last week?
Still believe they will do well in Tri Nations and WC but its time they stopped reading the papers and watching TV about themselves.
TembaVJ said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:50am | Report comment
I thought with Ginia ans Cooper that they would play more like the reds but they played more like the Tahs… weird.
England’s back line played a better game and they where hungry, good on them. Hard lesson to learn for the Wallas.
Hoy said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Have heard that Genia broke his thumb in the first 10 minutes. Might explain things.
Tom said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:21am | Report comment
Considering Genia wasn’t setting the world on fire out there (possibly due to injury), and Burgess was coming off such a good performance the week before, surely a substitution was in order?
Nicol'arse said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Not really. Why did he play on? Or if he selfishly refused to come off… why did Deans give him a full 80mins when it was clear he was having a poor game?
I’ve been as critical as anyone of Burgess in the past but he had a blinder last week…. no doubt about it. And this week he not only got ‘rewarded’ with the bench for his huge effort in Perth but he also had to endure the full 80mins watching Genia have a poor.
That’s poor people management from Deans and would have done absolutely nothing for Burgess’ confidence.
Genia should have been hooked at half time (since we was adding nothing) and Deans could have also seen how Burgess would have performed behind an under-performing pack this week. After all, that’s the true measure of a halfback
Hoy said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:17am | Report comment
I concur. Seems odd he wasn’t substituted, however if true, it explains why his pass wasn’t as crisp as usual. That is what I meant by might explain things.
Rabbitz said | June 21st 2010 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Maybe Dingo has been talking with Pim?
Jimmy said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:19am | Report comment
If that is correct he is even worse than I thought! Why? Because his team deserved better than a player remaining on the field with an injury that affected his performance and took away from his team.Harsh? You are playing for your country, not yourself.
Dapper said | June 21st 2010 @ 6:56pm | Report comment
I’m astonished how quickly people have turned away from Genia.
Burgess had a blinder in Perth because nobody was watching Burgess.
Genia has built up a reputation from a terrific season with the Reds and with that comes extra scrutiny. His game was solid on Saturday – sure he didn’t make the line breaks that Burgess made in Perth. But then again England’s defence had improved immensely.
People should stop looking for silly mono causal explanations – it’s a team game and the wallabies were outplayed. Burgess would not have been our saviour on Saturday. My guess is that if he did play you’d all be pleading for Genia to start against Ireland.
Pete said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:17pm | Report comment
I agree Dapper. 2 weeks ago Burgess was called hopeless and Genia our saviour, the next week Burgess is king and Genia is over rated? Giteau and Cooper’s combination was a match made in heaven and Barnes is one dimensional and not suited to our new style of play, now Giteau must make way for the Barnes and Cooper combination… and some Roarers wonder why Deans doesn’t use the Roar to select his team…
On the bright dise, at least we have options!
Pete said | June 21st 2010 @ 7:36pm | Report comment
that should say “bright side, at least we have options”
ohtani's jacket said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:00am | Report comment
I dunno if I’d be making fun of the English forwards if my guys were as soft as the Wallabies are. Steve Thompson looks like he could eat the Wallaby pack for breakfast.
Hayden said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:19am | Report comment
He looks like he has eaten them for breakfast. Thommo would be my pick for ugliest front rower in international rugby. The Wallabies are on the right track, but have a soft underbelly, kind of like a darts player.
KF said | June 21st 2010 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Hi
Based on your comments I take that you have not seen Argentinian and French front row.
Cheers
KF
DaniE said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:02pm | Report comment
Thompson’s expressions during the match on Saturday night seriously made me think of Diego Maradona at the World Cup – they should do comparison photo montages of both guys.
johnny-boy said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
Amen.
formeropenside said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Better beaten by dart players than chess players.
True Tah said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Courtney Laws doesnt exactly look like a darts player, more like the bouncer. what club does this bloke play for, he’s the sort of bloke the English pack needs
Roger Rational said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Believe it or not, his Dad was a pub bouncer. He comes from the same junior club as Steve Thompson (Northampton Old Scouts) and plays for Saints. Mean bugger and a great athlete – but still learning the game as he only switched from basketball when he was about 17.
Colin N said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Courtney Lawes has said in a couple of interviews that he likes playing rugby because he can “hurt people legally” or something along those lines.
Sam Taulelei said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:35am | Report comment
The Wallabies are still mentally weak. Playing like world beaters one week then world chumps the next. Apart from the selections and technical aspects to their game as mentioned by Spiro that needs improving Deans really needs to get into his players heads and adjust some attitudes. A halftime spray to strip paint off the walls as demonstrated by Graham Henry wouldn’t go amiss from Deans either.
Wallaby supporters have every right to expect and demand better from their team after their performance in Perth so why was is that only the scrum improved? Because that was the one facet that was heavily criticised and scrutinised and needed the most improvement and it’s clear they worked hard over the week to improve. Lord knows what the rest of the team was doing that week.
Mr Saunders said | June 22nd 2010 @ 6:12am | Report comment
Did the scrum improve, Sam? Minutely perhaps, if at all, but it was clear that Cole still had an easy, easy edge over Daley. Also, Payne isn’t recognised as a scrummager in England and Lawes replaced the bulkier Shaw, so it’s not like the English pack last week was/is the world number 1 tight unit. I think England viewed the scrum as a means to an end, as opposed to an obsession.
PB said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Spiro, you’re right about heads rolling – the first to go should be Deans before we get too far into this season and while we have a chance of salvaging something before next year’s RWC. He is clearly not an international standard coach yet and in my opinion our national coach should be Australian. Next to go should be Giteau: having an off night with the boot is one thing, folding under crowd pressure to miss one from 18m in front is simply unacceptable at this level. That, terrible defence, poor tactics, aimless kicking (AGAIN!!!!) and poor decision making by not taking points on offer cost us this game.
Tom said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Agreed. Deans is the biggest myth in world rugby. Many jump to his defence at any criticism of him; the fact remains he has done nothing during his tenure, despite having some decent cattle at his disposal.
Giteau is playing on past glories; he hasn’t had a good performance in a Wallabies jersey for some time now. Barnes isn’t the world’s greatest player, but he is a steady hand.
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
Tom see my post below with the list of departed and injured players: the cattle are not decent.
Tom said | June 21st 2010 @ 5:19pm | Report comment
But at the times we had a near full strength squad last year, we still didn’t perform when it mattered. Besides, against a team as mediocre as England it doesn’t matter – we should have beaten them regardless.
Pete said | June 21st 2010 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
What a great plan, 18 months out from a world cup let’s sack the coach.. genius. Lets throw a coach into place for the Spring Tour and the handful of tests next year before the RWC. I can see that plan working out well.
Deans record hasn’t been anywhere near someone of the calibre of Macqueen (for example), however he was brought in to do one thing, win the RWC. To do so he had to make serious changes in the make up of the national team and how professional players are selected in this country. Before Deans everyone lamented that we had no ‘cattle’ in Australia. The fact that we have depth in some positions is a direct result of Deans and his willingness to give the next generation a go. I dare say that the success of the young players in Super rugby, especially Cooper, is partly attributed to Dean’s influence by giving these guys a go. He’s doing it now with the front row out of necessity. As painful as it is now, I’ll be pretty happy come RWC if TPN et al. get injured that we have someone to step up who has some experience.
Dingobob said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
I think I would drop the captain first.
taylorbridge said | June 22nd 2010 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Agreed, Rocky is useless.
C J McKay said | June 21st 2010 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Why wasn’t Hodgson brought onto the field with 20 to go – he adds spark and aggression.
I have questioned many of the current teams passion. How many of them really care about winning – most think they are rock stars and are on massive coin including teh ~10k game day fee. Perhaps it is time to start retaining that fee like a bonus. Win and you get it. Loose = nothing. Let’s see how much more motivated they are. Just about everyone on the planet works for their money and a bonus – why are these boys any different.
el gamba said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Agree CJ, attitude was the problem and if they can’t get it by pulling on the Green and Gold (watch average players turn into world beaters with a silver fern on their chest!) then something else must be added. Giteau would not have had a wry smile on his face after missing that sitter if it’d cost him 10 grand!