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Jason Blake and Colm Begley of St KIlda collide with Grant Birchall of Hawthorn during the AFL Round 19 match between the Hawthorn Hawks and the St Kilda Saints at Aurora Stadium. Slattery Images
With the success of Hawthorn’s push into Tasmania playing games at Aurora Stadium in Launceston, it was inevitable that Hobart’s Bellerive Oval would become a target of Melbourne-based AFL clubs looking to sell home games. Now that notion could very well become a reality.
The AFL have recently taken up the lead role in contract talks with the Tasmanian government and have pushed for up to eight games in the state, with some in Launceston and some in Hobart.
While the continuation of Hawthorn’s four-game Launceston deal is considered to be “top priority”, three clubs have reportedly shown interest in playing games in Hobart. Richmond have talked up the chances of a two-game stint, North Melbourne have talked about three or four games and Melbourne is apparently the third club involved.
On face value, the idea has a lot of merit.
Tasmania’s bid for an AFL team can only be boosted by more games being played in the state. If you can show crowds turning up to as many as eight games in a season, going to the AFL and asking for your own team (with only a handful more home games than eight) becomes much easier.
Then there’s the point raised by former premier Paul Lennon earlier in the year. He said the Hawks’ penetration in Tasmania had reached its saturation point and a second club playing games in the South was the only possible way of expanding the state’s AFL presence in the short-term.
As is well known, there is a divide in Tasmania between the North (where Launceston is) and the South (where Hobart is) which creates the opportunity to play extra games away from Aurora Stadium with a good chance of success.
Hawks president Jeff Kennett surprisingly wasn’t opposed to the idea when asked, but stressed only if the club involved had the same commitment to Tasmania as his club. “I would hate to see Tassie as a dumping ground for clubs that only want your money,” he said at the time.
Since then, the AFL have met with key figures and clubs have emerged as potential candidates, so the wheels are now well and truly in motion – even if a few obstacles stand in the way.
The North-South rivalry, despite being one of the reasons an opportunity like this exists, presents one roadblock.
“We have always accepted that cricket was to be played in Hobart and AFL football would be at Aurora – and that was the deal,” said Launceston City Council’s Robin McKendrick earlier this month. And it’s a view that’s accepted by many, with governments in the past keen to separate the two cities along those lines.
The current standard of Bellerive Oval as a venue is another issue. Comments from the AFL’s Gillon McLachlan suggest it isn’t yet up to scratch, although part of the reason why Cricket Tasmania have been so open to the idea of AFL matches is that it could assist them in their plans to expand the ground from its present 16,500 capacity to 23,000.
Given matches may not begin until after the introduction of Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney, there is time to overcome these issues.
Then it comes down to which clubs should be given the green light to play in Hobart.
Richmond are the sentimental choice, with former legend Matthew Richardson, current CEO Brendan Gale and new superstar Jack Riewoldt all from Tassie. They also have the right mascot – the tiger.
But they are also a big club with a big supporter base with no real need to be selling home games. Hawthorn could also be described as such a club, but the important thing here is that they couldn’t be described that way when they started their Tasmanian push. Their Tasmanian push is one of the reasons why they got to where they are now.
We should be allowing a struggling club of today to go out and try to replicate what the Hawks did, which is why a North Melbourne or Melbourne would be a great fit.
Of course, the issue with North is the commitment they made when rejecting the AFL’s Gold Coast offer to play their home games in Melbourne.
But it has to be said a “home game” simply isn’t what it used to be. With venue sharing and “replacement” home games and 17-game membership packages, the lines are becoming increasingly blurred. So long as North still have over half their games in Melbourne, there shouldn’t be an issue.
If anything, with their situation right now, North Melbourne are the perfect candidate.
Despite being on the verge of the top eight, the Roos drew the smallest Melbourne crowd of the season last weekend, with 15,109 turning up for their match with Port Adelaide. Their crowds against interstate teams – and their membership figure – have been recurring issues this season.
Three or four games in Hobart – against these very interstate teams, with the scope for more Tasmanian-based members – could be just what they need.
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Mathew said | June 24th 2010 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Good summary of the issue, I wasn’t aware that much had taken place! You have to wonder whether this north-south divide will help the Tasmania AFL bid though, they need to start showing some unity. If they get a team, where will the games be played? Where will they be based? Don’t agree that the state can’t sustain an AFL team, but they need to get this issue sorted.
Mark Young said | June 24th 2010 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
I really hope that all the AFL fans in Hobart get their own team.
It would be a great day for them and for the sport.
Actually, there is a team from the Inner West of Sydney that none of the locals give a hoot about, they would be perfect to relocate to the apple isle!!!
Fear said | August 10th 2010 @ 11:50pm | Report comment
Put West Sydney’s license in Hobart, then put Gold Coast’s in Launceston.
They should have done this in the first place.
NSW and QLD are a complete waste of everyone’s time. They should be begging us to save them from rugby.
Brett McKay said | June 24th 2010 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
forget your Barassi line, Tassie has the Boags-Cascade line…
Michael DiFabrizio said | June 24th 2010 @ 9:10pm | Report comment
Very true, Brett.
Republican said | June 24th 2010 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
I fully support the Taswegiens having an elite AFL fulltime presence.. They have been the most undervalued heartland of the game in the country.
I certainly think they will sustain a team albeit I am not clear as to what the AFL bottom line is in this respect.
Canberra should also be considered if they can attract 14.5g to Manuka for two sides that are not huge crowd magnets, in Sydney and Footscray. The local elite rugby equivalents only manage between 12 and 14G these days and thats with the added advantage of them deriving the ‘Canberra’ brand.
Brett, I appreciate you won’t like that analogy too much.
Cheers
Brett McKay said | June 24th 2010 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
no issue with it at all Repub, apart for your figures being a touch on the low side (Brums still ave’d in the 15s this year, I believe). Either way though, they ain’t what they used to be, which is sad…
Baz35 said | June 25th 2010 @ 7:04am | Report comment
pretty sure 15,000 is capacity…nothing sad about the strength of australian football….unless you hate it of course!
Michael C said | June 24th 2010 @ 7:56pm | Report comment
Once again North Melb gets a bit of a pot……meanwhile, the AFL has fixtured North to host all 6 interstaters this year at Docklands,………real smart that is!!!!
11 home games, we have 15 teams to choose from, and we get 6 from 6 interstaters and only 5 of the 9 Vic clubs…………go figure. It only accentuates any unfriendly stadium deal.
Now,…..if we can derive some benefit from trekking down to Hobart thrice a year, I’m all for it,
because, as far as one can trust (or not trust) AFL fixturing, come 2 years time, North will be drawn to host all ruddy 8 interstaters at Docklands!!!
Michael DiFabrizio said | June 24th 2010 @ 9:09pm | Report comment
MC, totally agree that the fixture handed to North Melbourne this year is unfair. Surely there was a better way to split it. And if the talk of the AFL not giving North a home game against Collingwood solely because of the jumper issue is true, well, that just makes it even worse.
By the way, didn’t intend for the article to come across as “a bit of a pot” at North, but I can understand how advocating one club over two others to sell games can be seen as a bit of a backhanded compliment. Cheers for the comment.
Republican said | June 24th 2010 @ 8:25pm | Report comment
Michael C
What was the gate last docklands fixture for North = around 15g?
They may as well host some of these in the Nations Capital given that sort of turn out me thinks. I have a real soft spot for the Shinboners. Not sure that they haven’t burnt their bridges here – alas.
Cheers
Michael C said | June 24th 2010 @ 9:33pm | Report comment
Alas yep,
ah well, I sat there with the family, rejoicing in level 3 being shut and sitting on level 1 next to the cheer squad (and thinking again, that on level 1, you see more of the game on level 3!!!), and with most the 15,000 around the bottom tier I looked at the stadium and imagined levels 2 and 3 sheered off and I saw……..Arden St.
In the good old days,……….no elephant or burning pie stand.
With Julia now number 1 in Canberra,…the Doggies might be wanting to play a few more games up there??
btw – have done well with the kids this year, they are 4 from 4 for wins (I’m 5 from 5). Last year, we only managed to attend one win from about 5 plus a NAB Cup loss plus a NAB challenge loss……….kids are enjoying it much more this year and the flags are taking a beating from be waved (and whacking people in the head!!!).
Republican said | June 24th 2010 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
To be sure Brett = but this is the trend for Union throughout Oz and NZ I believe – if that’s any consolation.
Cheers
ac said | June 24th 2010 @ 9:24pm | Report comment
Rugby League would go well in Hobart too, maybe they can get invited to help with the ground development?
Baz35 said | June 25th 2010 @ 7:10am | Report comment
Nah, Rugby League never puts a red cent into stadiums. Just whinges when the AFL does
Michael C said | June 25th 2010 @ 10:32am | Report comment
correct – - only the AFL and to a far, far lesser extent cricket puts money in – - – the other codes entrenched with levels of private ownership have an expectation of the US (derided on the Simpsons) model of publicly funded stadia for the benefit of super rich private owners.
No wonder cricket and the RAS and govt’s invite the AFL to get organised,…..but,…..it also brings into question just how much Govt is ‘taking advantage of’ the AFL by underfunding venues like the MCG and Docklands.
Republican said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Michael C
I watched their game v Carlton on the box a couple of weeks back. I was very impressed with their resilliance and sustained effort throughout the four quarters, fully expecting them to fade and allow the Blues back in to snatch victory in the 3rd and 4thQ’s Their little men were exceptional on the day.
As far as Julia goes – yes I am tempted to email her re. the Doggies expediently deplorable treatment of the ACT and NT in selling out to the footy backwater i.e. NZ. I don’t believe she will have much influence over their banker in Mr Rose despite her newly afforded status as Aust P.M.
I recall Arden St vividly as a kid, especially on the box in balck and white, usually raining with a backdrop of that imposing gasometer.
Was it Nolan who Lou Richards coined the “Galloping Gasometer’?
Cheers mate and good luck to your Sinboners this weekend.
EvertonAndAustralia said | December 5th 2010 @ 8:59pm | Report comment
Hobart should get a new team and Hawthorn continue playing home games at Launceston. North Melbourne should relocate to Ballarat!
Australian Football: Central Coast Represent said | April 20th 2011 @ 9:59pm | Report comment
if tasmania get a new team in hobart, then i would imagine they will be playing games in Hobart and Launceston (Hense the name Tasmania, not Hobart or Launceston). Therefore i wouldn’t imagine hawthorn would still be playing games at launceston.
I believe the AFL needs to relocate or merge the weak teams in Melbourne. Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond, St. Kilda, Hawthorn, Geelong, are all strong teams, whereas Melbourne, North Melbourne and Western Bulldogs aren’t as strong. The AFL is trying to maximise the game around Australia, having 10 teams in Victoria and 4 other states having 2 teams and the two territories and 1 other state having no teams isn’t a complete australian game.
I believe relocate North Melbourne to Tasmania, and have them playing games in Hobart and Launceston to accompany for the North and South. Relocate Western Bulldogs to Northern Territory and have them playing a few home games at Alice Springs and the other home games at Darwin.