Blue Tongue crowd a sign that NRL should expand
By Steve Kaless, 27 Jul 2010 Steve Kaless is a Roar Guru
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Sunday offered three debates, but only one was answered resoundingly. There was, of course, the debate between two party leaders, which lacked any clear winner, and there was the debate over whether Robbie Farah dived against the Sea-Eagles. But the one debate that was ended in the most conclusive fashion was: is the Central Coast was ready for an NRL team?
Hell yeah.
In debates, it’s often useful to provide a few figures to give your argument that little bit of academic rigour to separate it from the rest of the noise, which is based on the “people I speak to” school of thought.
I’ll offer one: 20,059.
Not since Round 1 of the 2000 NRL season have so many people squeezed themselves into Blue Tongue Stadium, not for the Rugby World Cups, not for the A-League, and not for the countless other NRL matches which have looked to pick up a quick cheque from the people of the Coast and a quick beer at Club Troppo.
Just why so many fans chose to flock to this game when so many others have failed to capture the public imagination is a little bit of a mystery. But one worth investigating, especially seeing the club which took the game to Gosford could be justifiably seen as public enemy number one as they’ve spent a not inconsiderate amount of time bemoaning the part of their history which forced them to play there.
Most importantly, it was a quality fixture on a Sunday afternoon.
Many matches at Gosford seem to be the 5.30 Saturday fixture, as a club looks to cut their losses against opponents with smaller travelling fan numbers (Sharks, Storm, Warriors) or cash in on the Knights travelling fans.
So that is probably the first starting point for any future games. Make it a good one.
Fans who had travelled up from Sydney and were turned away at the gate must have thought they’d entered a parallel universe. I normally find fans have a big enough beef if they have to queue, let alone if they can’t get in.
There are obviously other compelling reasons to expand the game to the likes of Perth and Central Queensland. But as long as they can show the correct level of financial support, then you are a hard marker if you claim the Central Coast Bears have any other criteria that they need to fulfill.
But not only did the fans turn up, they were entertained with a game from the code’s top shelf.
Did Robbie Farah dive? I don’t know.
Far be it from me to judge whether a bloke is soft or not, as I take in the match from a very safe distance. Also, when we have just gone through the whole Paul Briggs farce, it’s hard not to be sceptical when the team doctors are wheeled out to talk about how crook a bloke was at halftime and teammates talk about how tough a bloke is.
At least the bookies weren’t offering a market on whether Steve Matai would knock anyone out.
The fact that I viewed the match from my lounge room also left me unable to answer the other key question in the wash up: Just how hard would it have been to get into Club Troppo and a buy a few schooners?
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Crosscoder said | July 27th 2010 @ 7:34am | Report comment
A couple of reasons> A winning Manly and a team popular on the CC (The tigers) and throw in the Benji factor.Officials had to shut the gates due to the sellout,showing the demand for rl is there for all to see.The weather played its part.
That being said not too many on the CC would follow a Manly side,but hells bells a local team the Bears would ensure crowds like these be teh norm rather than the exception.
A tape of this game(with crowd and atmosphere included) would no doubt be added to the CC bid,compelling to say the least..
It is looking more certain the CC Bears and Perth “”pirates”" will be part of the 2013 NRL scene.
Beowulf said | July 27th 2010 @ 8:23am | Report comment
I don’t think the NRL have a choice now – you cannot deny an area a team that is so desperate for it and has all the infrastructure and bid in place. Sure there are lots of supporters from other teams on the Coast, but they all WILL go to Bluetongue every second week to watch NRL. While not all will support the Bears wholeheartedly at first, in time they will swing around…..their kids will turn them into Bears.
A knockback by the NRL would probably see the extinction of the Bears and any chance of the Central Coast ever getting an NRL team…so Central Coast, its NOW or NEVER. Go to the website, become a member and we can watch NRL games every second week come 2013.
The CC Bears are meeting the NRL on Thursday – fortuitous timing!
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Bring Back the Bears!
Absolutely – I really hope this comes to reality.
It’s a pity they won’t be playing at the beautiful North Sydney Oval anymore, but the Central Coast is next best!
Hutchoman said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:59am | Report comment
Aren’t they talking about 2 games a year at North Sydney? That would ge GOLD and the joint will hopefully be jumping!
Gob Bluth said | July 27th 2010 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
I reckon they’d have a few games at NS Oval.
Beowulf said | July 27th 2010 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
There will be 1 trial game and 1 premiership game at North Sydney Oval only. The premiership round will be the home game against manly – guaranteed 22,000 for that local derby!
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:07am | Report comment
More than a few scooners at Club Troppo Steve……
CC Bears and Perth for 2013, you know it makes sense.
Matai was cleared last night, Farah has runs on the board for this sort of stuff.
Unfortunatley for the NRL its stuck between Sunday arvo games which get the best crowds and other time slots that maximise TV audiences. TV tends to win out cause it raises the most cash, but if the independent commission is fair dinkum about giving the fans what they want then more Sunday footy should be dictated in the next TV deal.
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:52am | Report comment
“Farah has runs on the board for this sort of stuff.”
While Matai is, of course, a complete cleanskin when it comes to violent conduct on the rugby league field…
Hmmmmm…
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:09am | Report comment
never seen Matai fake an injury.
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Ever seen him cause one?
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:15am | Report comment
say what you want about Matai, but the worst accusation you can level at an RL player is taking a dive / faking an injury to get a penalty.
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:22am | Report comment
The worst accusation you can level at a RL player is being a serial thug and dirty player.
Steve Matai is one of the worst offenders in the game – the sooner he is run out of league or Australia the better.
A very nasty piece of work.
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:25am | Report comment
better a thug than a cheat
Hutchoman said | July 27th 2010 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Matai is one of the tough old schoolers. Great to see him put his body on the line every week. This is why Farah doesn’t get picked for Origin.
Gob Bluth said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:59am | Report comment
Farah is a dog. He is the only player I know who seems to have an article in the paper every month with him telling everyone who’ll listen that he isn’t soft. Me thinks he doth protest too much!
I love the way he says “just look at my second half form, i was clearly concussed”. No, you are clearly a streaky player who can’t do anything if your forwards are getting belted.
Then the Tigers are having a big sook about Matai’s slap on the back “What if he had a spinal injury!” Hell’s teeth, why not just say “what if he had a knife”
And to think some people think this clown should be let anywhere near Origin.
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
Surely they can’t pick Michael “The Poo In Blue” Ennis again???!!!!
hutch said | July 28th 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
gob bluth, you clearly have absolutely no idea about rugby league as well as having a ridiculous name!
wallythefly said | July 27th 2010 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
Matai must go down with an ‘injury’ after every time he scores a try and makes a miracle recovery when its game on again. Watch the next manly game and i guarantee you he’ll go down at some point but not leave the field…
Mark Young said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Hi Link
When has Farah Dived before?
Jeff said | July 27th 2010 @ 7:29pm | Report comment
I can’t answer that question Mark, but I reckon Farah saw Matai approaching and immediately thought, “penalty here if I stay down.”, it certainly looked like ‘wussy’ cntact to me and the commentators (and we don’t agree that often about Matai’s tactics!!!.
That wasn’t a slap on the back in anger, it was a congrats on a good act. a “Well done son, ya got me reported again”.
hutch said | July 28th 2010 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
the tackle was a penalty regardless of any injury suffered by farah.
the slap on the back was uncalled for and it certainly wasnt a pat on the back congratulating farah. he deserved his 10 minutes.
Mark Young said | July 28th 2010 @ 7:50pm | Report comment
Hi Jeff
I have to agree with Hutch here. It was a high tackle and Matai went ahead and turned it into a sin bin offence. it reminded me of Ennis turning the tackle in the state of origin into a penalty.
But I really can’t recall Farah taking a dive and as a Wests Tigers fan i watch him play a lot.
So probably not really an objective observer hey!
Have a good one bro.
Fez's are cool said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:12am | Report comment
Bears and Reds 2013 definately.
Perth and North Sydney were two of the clubs shafted by the super league war. By reintroducing them along with an independant commission and a FAIR TV rights negotiation will do much to heal some of the lingering wounds of the last 20 years.
I only hope that after 2013 though the NRL look to relocation of poorer clubs like Cronulla (to Adelaide, Wellington or Qld) before expanding to 20 clubs.
Mals said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
I went to the game on Sunday, fantastic atmosphere!! Bluetongue is a great little stadium but the staff there are fairly clueless. I couldn’t get a seat anywhere in the General admission areas & was lucky to sneak into a Reserved section & only have to move once when the owner of the seat came along. Many people were standing around the walk-ways & around the stairs, which leads me to question do they sell more General admission tickets than there are seats…? Seeing as Bluetongue is an all-seater stadium it would have to be intentional if this was the case.
M1tch said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Was great to see a full bluetongue, but for 20k each week we would need every Bears home game to be a sunday arvo
Jay said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:35am | Report comment
For me, expansion would be a second team in brisbane playing out of suncorp and the central coast.. but id be happy with the readmission of the reds nevertheless…
As for sunday games – there definatley needs to be more day games. What ever happened to Saturday day games? Gallop has previously said that he might favour a fixed fixture for less tv income if it meant fans had certainity… how about a return to day games for the fans??
M1tch said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:51am | Report comment
We killed sat afternoon games in 2002 when the NRL gave them to the Storm when they were stuggling, they used that to justify that more night games are needed
Id be happy with another sunday afternoon game to be live on FTA at 2 and the 3pm delayed at 4pm
danwighton said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:17am | Report comment
The 2pm timeslot never seems to be as well attended as the three oclock one – not sure why this is.
Maybe there should be two 3pm games, with the second starting at 5 on fox, the first live from 3om on FTA. Is an option to consider with one extra game per week with expansion.
But given that so much hinges on the game making a lot of money out of the new TV rights, I wouldnt be surprised if the deal allows the networks to dictate terms – even more than the current arrangements.
M1tch said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:31am | Report comment
Agree on that, 3pm for sydneysiders seems to be the favoured option
although, the souths v tigers at 2pm this year got better numbers than 3pm last year
wallythefly said | July 27th 2010 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
3pm is better because you go out to the game for the afternoon, you still have all Sunday morning to do…well whatever it is people do on sunday. if you have timeslots like 5.30 and 2pm they are kind of ‘in between’ times, that’s my theory anyway
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Bears are looking good, more positive comments from Gallop
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/nrl-to-go-fishing-on-the-central-coast/story-e6frg7mf-1225897216635
Beowulf said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Wow, that’s probably the most positive comment for the Central Coast I’ve seen yet in 5 years re expansion talk. For an ex-lawyer to say that, its as close to a yes as is possible! If the NRL changed its mind now, it would destroy the bid up there, so the NRL will have to bring in the Bears. I’d say Perth would join them, but they’ll need NRL assistance to be ready by 2013. Bring on the TV deal!
The Link said | July 27th 2010 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Also what’s interesting was the timframes, expansion is back on the agenda mid next year.
Col the Pom said | July 27th 2010 @ 7:38pm | Report comment
Believeth not a word that emanates from David Gallop, He is a Lawyer first and as far as I can see , thats ALL he EVER should be.
I cannot believe that this decision wasn’t made directly the Titans entered the league, Both teams would be now prepared to join the league at twelve months notice, with Sponsors and infrastructure in place. — but then again, this would have called for long term planning , a ‘mysterious happening’ that the NRL doesn’t seem to be able to grasp.
Bring on the Independent Commission and ensure that NONE of the current AFL/NRL directors are part of it.
Hansie said | July 27th 2010 @ 8:07pm | Report comment
For a lawyer not renowned for loose comments, that is positive stuff for the Bears. The funny part of that article was that Greg Florimo was out of the stadium before kick off. Good to see the old Manly hatred lingers!
Redback said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Bears will work but Perth will not.16 teams make a better fit.perth will end up costing the other clubs money however the bears will bring more interest into the game.
hutch said | July 28th 2010 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
perth will bring more money into the game through increased tv deals due to greater exposure, just as melbourne do now. people like to bag melbourne for costing $6million a year to run but dont look at the fact they bring in $10′s of millions a year in increased revenue through tv and sponsorship.
Michael B said | July 28th 2010 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Only trolls make silly comments about News Ltd losing $6 Million per season. It is as clear as day to anyone with half a brain to know that Melb is critical to the NRL TV rights and sponsorship.
The all new King of the Gorganites said | July 27th 2010 @ 10:36am | Report comment
Club Troppo? thats been closed for years. Get with the times.
Central Coast (and Perth) is a must for the next expansion. People are crying out for a RL team in CC and Perth. Compare the crowd Melbourne got compared with the CC!
Hutchoman said | July 27th 2010 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
“Club Troppo? thats been closed for years. Get with the times.”
Some of us are still living off past glories …
Willy said | July 27th 2010 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
Ah.. Club Troppo.
More camel toes than Taronga Zoo in that place.
Great memories.
The all new King of the Gorganites said | July 27th 2010 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
ha. always attracted a fine calibre of women.
Bill Baxter said | July 28th 2010 @ 6:20am | Report comment
Compare what????. Melbourne Storm attracted over 11,000 people to the game on Saturday evening, playing a game against a team which brought only a handful of supporters and more importantly not having the same incentive to win points.