Back from the Dreamtime into a dream?
By Brett McKay, 7 Sep 2010 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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I’ve returned from a week looking at big rocks in the middle of Australia, and I’ll get the travel recommendation out of the way early: if you haven’t ventured in the red centre of this big country, you really should. It is just an amazing part of the world.
Of course, being hundreds of kilometres from anywhere, where today’s newspaper is actually yesterday’s (and where hotel broadband rates make Telstra’s look like a bargain), means that keeping up to date with the goings on in the sporting world was a little difficult.
After the previous weekend’s performance in Pretoria, where the Wallabies squandered 14-point leads not once, but twice, I was keen to find out what the fallout was.
The main points of interest seemed to be thus:
* Captain Rocky Elsom apparently gave the boys a good old-fashioned dressing room spray after the loss, which is great to hear, as Elsom has been criticised in some quarters for his lack of obvious emotion after games, and
* The Wallaby assistant coaches, Captain and Lieutenant Obvious, laid down a fresh challenge in the 2010 edition of the Stating the Bleeding Obvious Awards, by calling on the Wallabies to “show more consistency” after their Loftus Versfeld showing, where they surrendered a 23-year-victory-draught-ending lead twice.
A high point in clear thinking, I’d imagine.
Nevertheless, I was confident going into the Bloemfontein Test early Sunday morning. I had a really good feeling about the changes in the forward pack, that the recall of Stephen Moore and Mark Chisholm, and the promotion of Number 8 Ben McCalman to the starting side made a lot of sense.
Come the first half, I found myself forgetting about a fresh cup of tea once again, as the Wallabies raced out to a 31-6 lead within half an hour or so. Bonus points were secured before my bleary eyes had even stopped squinting at the TV.
So, some brief observations.
Rocky Elsom was outstanding, and played probably his best game as Wallaby captain. He was willing in the contest, and seemed to be back to his best with his wide running game.
His try from a James O’Connor break, which sealed the bonus point, looked to be out of determination that he wasn’t going to be run down for the second week in a row. It was a just reward for a storming game, and it was great to see a satisfied man lift the Mandela Plate post-match.
This might be a big call, but in Ben McCalman, the Wallabies may just have found their next long-term No.8. Wycliff Palu will inevitably return for a period once fit again, sure, but at only 22, McCalman looks to be that aggressive, hard-tackling presence at the back of the scrum that Richard Brown tries desperately to be, but just hasn’t quite mastered.
Admittedly, I need to lay a disclaimer here, that McCalman was one of my Next Breed subjects back in March, and I am just as excited about getting one right (and on that subject, Dave Dennis, what’s happened?) as I am about a young guy from central NSW coming through.
It will be interesting to see how he slots into the already Wallaby-laden Western Force backrow rotation next year, and more so, when or if the Waratahs might try to bring him home.
Now for the humble pie bit.
I’ve been saying for quite some time now that James O’Connor and Kurtley Beale in the same side make me nervous, but there’s no ignoring this: they were both outstanding in this game, and both seem to be getting better with every game in their current roles.
While Beale will ultimately be remembered for kicking the winning penalty goal, O’Connor was very dangerous on the counter, and had a major hand in two of Australia’s tries as well as netting one himself. If this roaming wing role is the one from which O’Connor can reach his undoubted potential at international level, then good luck to him.
This was the classic game of two halves.
Australia dominated play for 39 minutes, went to sleep just on halftime, and were then completely outplayed by South Africa until the 79th minute of the game, by which time a 25-point lead had disappeared and yet another heartbreaking loss looked inevitable.
However, some laziness from the Springbok forwards in trying to close out the game presented Beale with his opportunity for glory. From just inside halfway and on a decent angle, Beale stepped up under enormous pressure, both at the ground and from many a lounge room back in Australia.
I still haven’t seen the kick from front-on, but from side on it was only ever going to be a question of whether it was straight enough. As the flags went up, there was a triumphant, if muted, early morning celebration in my house not seen since Brett Holman’s cracking goal for the Socceroos in their World Cup clash with Ghana.
If, in twelve or thirteen months time, the Wallabies go further in the Rugby World Cup than expected, we may well look back at this game as the turning point.
This could be the game where Australia finally learned how to grind out a tight win in the most hostile of environments, where previously they might have folded and suffered yet another frustrating and inglorious loss.
I learned an enormous amount about Aboriginal history and the Dreamtime on my trip out to Uluru last week, but I suspect this current Wallabies squad is starting to create some history of its own.
Their next big test comes this Saturday in the final Bledisloe Cup match in Sydney, and not for the first time I find myself saying that the Wallabies are now only as good as their next game. With Dan Carter out injured, there may not be a better chance to beat the All Blacks.
The Wallabies are starting to give fans a reason to believe again though, and they deserve all the optimism that comes their way this week. I just hope this isn’t all some cruel dream.
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kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:05am | Report comment
The Wallabies pack does indeed look better and better with Elsom and Pocock storming, the front row good, Sharpe and Chisholm on form, Mccalman playing well and Higginbotham in the wings, and all the injured and overseas players to come. Chisholm, incidentally, I thought played the best game I have seen from him for a long time and far better than Dean Mumm.
I think by the next summer, the pack will be complete.
The backs are almost complete, but not quite. Genia, Burgess, Cooper, Beale, O’Connor, Giteau, Barnes form a colossal mountain of creativity. The only thing lacking is strike power. Drew Mitchell played well I must say as I have been his stearnest critic in the past while AAC was rock solid, if not inspirational like the other backs. However, the missing key to this team is two top quality strike runners. With those two, the whole team is complete and can do anything. If the ARU doesn’t go and get Inglis and Hayne, they’ll have to hope two such runners magically appear next year.
I wonder if Cooper, Beale and O’Connor will always be good and indeed big enough in defence. They did well last week while the forwards had problems defending, but who knows if that will always be the case.
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:53am | Report comment
g’day KPM. You make a good point about the backs, and you have to wonder whether we’re close to having to much of a good thing in the creativity stakes. Don’t get me wrong, currently I don’t think I would make any changes 9-15 as they all seem to be comfortable in their roles, and playing well to boot.
But I do take your point about one more strike runner. If Ioane comes in at 13 or 14, and Ashley-Cooper is shuffled as/if required, then the team certainly looks no worse than it does now. But then do you drop Mitchell or O’Connor?? To me, they’re two very different type of wingers, but also compliment each other pretty well. The way O’Connor cut back in on the angle off Mitchell (for Elsom’s try) was great counter, but you could easily have been mistaken that it was O’Connor that drifted sideways, with Mitchell cutting back on the angle. Throw Beale into the mix, and the back three are looking quite good together.
So I guess my point is that if the back three, the centres, and the playmakers are all functioning well as individual units and attacking collectively, maybe that one more strike runner isn’t so important. Maybe Mitchell and Ashley-Cooper, in the current allignment, can play that role anyway??
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:14am | Report comment
Good evening to you Brett from where I am right now
I think in the end both AAC and Mitchell will go not because there’s anything wrong with them, but because the backline will be too light already with Cooper, Beale, Giteau, O’Connor. Bigger players will be brought in.
Also, I can’t imagine it will always be possible to zoom around defences the way the Wallabies did last saturday. At some point direct runners will be needed, and that may mean size.
I must say I found AAC the most limited back on show. Everyone loves his bravery, solidity, enthusiasm and defense, but he was far less threatening in attack than anyone else. So it could be a case of a bigger centre knocking him out. I think AAC’s a player whom people love for his committment and sometimes confuse that with quality.
I agree O’Connor and Mitchell offer complimentary virtues. Even if Ioane replaced AAC you would still be left with a lack of size.
Can the team beat everyone without a behemoth in the backs?
I’m not sure Rooney or Chambers are revolutionary players. Cooper Vuna does look like the best bet out of those lot. It’s a shame these days to get the second rate league players, when once in place of Rooney, Chambers and Vuna there would be Hayne, Inglis and Folau..
Gordon said | September 7th 2010 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
While we may lack a +100kg player in our backline such as Mortlock, Inglis or Nonu I think you are placing an over emphasis on the size of a player. While the physical attributes of players such as Inglis and Nonu do allow them to do some amazing things on the rugby field, size is by no means the determining factor in their success. In Greg Inglis’ first 1-2 years in NRL he was sub 95kg and still managed to produce some of his best football. You only have to look at the tackle busts players such as Jarryd Hayne (96kg) and James O’Connor (95kg) make on many players much larger than them to see that there is more important attributes to a rugby player than sheer size. If a 100kg+ centre/winger develops for australia in the next year who is a better rugby player than the incumbents then that is fantastic, however there is no physical reason players like Mitchell, AAC, Ioane and Horne should be discounted.
If you look at the list below there is not a massive difference between these players and their rivals anyway, exluding anomalies like Inglis that is. But no-one should be as big, agile and fast as Inglis, its just not fair.
Also AAC has been australias best back on many occasions during the past 2 years and while he may not produce the magic of a Beale, Cooper or O’Connor he is very important in the balance of the team in much the same way the consistency and steadiness of Conrad Smith provides the perfect foil to the all out attacking play of Ma’a Nonu for the All Blacks/Hurricanes. He must be in the world cup team whether thats at centre, wing or fullback.
Drew Mitchell – 95kg
Adam Ashley-Cooper – 98kg
Hayne – 96kg
Ioane – 93kg
Inglis – 107kg
Cory Jane – 88kg
Conrad Smith – 95kg
Jaque Fourie – 103kg
formeropenside said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:27am | Report comment
Strike power: Hynes and Ioane. Davies and Morahan. All there.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Hynes, Davies and Morahan are negligible strike power.
Ioane yes, but I wouldn’t be $1 on his being fit: he is the most consistently injured Australian player. (By the way if he is fit, I think he should displace AAC at 13).
The Other Reds Fan. said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:39am | Report comment
I don’t know why we have all written off Mortlock.
And don’t forget Chambers and Rooney. Who knows what the Rebels will throw into the mix. Didn’t they snaffle some ball running winger from the Newcastle Knights?
At this point I would like to make mention of the contribution made in the background by Ewen McKenzie and before that Phil Mooney who have introduced an exciting style of play giving players like Cooper and Genia a real chance to show their stuff.
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:58am | Report comment
TORF, Cooper Vuna is the guy you’re thinking of. I haven’t completely ruled through Mortlock, and I’d love to see him regain his spot, but I fear we’ve seen the best of him. Chambers could well come into calcs next year too, and I never thought I’d say that after his first month of Super 14.
But, I do think that the more established guys like Ioane, Hynes, Davies, Morahan , and even Shepherd, McCabe and Turner, who all went to SA, will all be in front of th newcomers in Rooney and Vuna.
But, it will be good to have choice, and even better, if everyone’s fit and firing, to be spolit by it….
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
‘But, I do think that the more established guys like Ioane, Hynes, Davies, Morahan , and even Shepherd, McCabe and Turner, ‘ That’s a pretty limited list of players! At least Ryan Cross is no longer in consideration: that really was a low.
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:30am | Report comment
it’s only limited though because I didn’t want to name every winger and outside centre in Australia!!
But below, CJ McKay – who may or may not be my father – mentions Horne, and I will add him to the list
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Brett I didn’t mean limited in number but in quality! Turner and Hynes (and Cross) should never have been able to make the Wallabies.
The Wallabies should be composed of players like Cooper, Beale, Ioane, Genia, O’Connor, Giteau that is players with real international class and not solid players who offer little else.
Hopefully the days of solid, worthy but average players filling the Wallabies backline are now over.
Terry Kidd said | September 8th 2010 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Formeropenside, did you know that the try scoring strike rate of Peter Hynes in tests is 1 try per 5 tests while Drew Mitchell’s strike rate is 2 tries per 5 tests? Did you know that Drew Mitchell has a better try scoring strike rate in tests than any other current Wallaby player? What does that tell you about strike power?
I said in another post earlier this week that one thing I did like about Mitchell was his ability to find the line and his try scoring strike rate proves it. I got those stats from the ARU website.
Vinay Verma said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Brett,there is something to be said about being in the wilderness. I was in Kangaroo Island and there was no internet or mobiles. I came back to Sydney and nothing had changed. Except the Wallabies won. And the smell of the match-fixing won’t go away. Maybe we should have stayed in the so called wilderness.
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:02am | Report comment
don’t get me wrong Vinay, I could easily have stayed out there, but the credit card was straining under pressure of overuse, and so back to reality (and income) it had to be.
Sadly, that might have been the same decision the Pakistanis made……..
C J McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Horne is a strike player – unfortunately his speed and power was not utilised enough in the early tests and he got injured.
Ioane is also a very dangerous runner of the ball. You only need 1-2 strike players in a backline.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:31am | Report comment
C J McKay I saw a statistic which said Chambers had made significantly more metres per carry than Horne in Super 14, although Chambers could well have got the ball in better positions from Quade Cooper than Horne from Daniel Halangahu of course. That doesn’t look great for Horne though as it was only Chambers’ first season of rugby and his first games must have significantly lowered the average.
He may not have been utilised that much by the Wallabies but he still didn’t do a huge amount..
The Wallabies are lucky in that strike runners are really their own problem in terms of players: everything else seems to be sorted out now, which certainly wasn’t the case a year or two ago.
The unconsidered contenders mentioned are: Horne, Chambers, Vuna, Rooney. Maybe someone totally new will materialise.
Mick Gold Coast QLD said | September 7th 2010 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
It’s the silence, Vinay and Brett – the silence!
We spend our time chattering about the snick, the chip-in and the knock on and drown out the silence.
I spoke to a not yet middle aged stockman out past Innamincka some years back and asked “Do you ever get down to the city?”, meaning Sydney or Melbourne.
His response was “Yeah – once, didn’t like it much, it’s too big for me. Too big – too many people in that Adelaide joint.”
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
Mick, you’re right, but not just the silence, it’s the big sky, the clean air, the warm weather!! Food tasted better, beer went down beautifully. Bugger this, I need another holiday
Ben said | September 7th 2010 @ 8:54am | Report comment
You mention guys from NSW country getting selected. I’ve been banging on about this for a bit on other posts but Kane Douglas should be being blooded right now for lock… he’s big, strong, young and aggressive. I saw him dominate again this week in first grade and he was a standout with the Tah’s this year… he would be in over simmons for mine.
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Ben I’m sure he’s not far away, and you’re right about what he brings to the table. He’ll have a few handy names in front of him again years – Horwill and Vickerman – but I’m sure he’s a known prospect. I can’t remember though, was he injured at the time the Aust Barbarians sides played??
el gamba said | September 7th 2010 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
I think he was on the bench for the Perth Baba’s game – must have had a run but can’t recall right now..
The trick with all of these players mentioned is to ensure that they stay in Australia for the next 5 years. At the moment we have young “potentials”, if we keep the names being bandied around above we will have seasoned depth…
Harry said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:41am | Report comment
2 big pluses from the win:
1) Confidence – they finally won a tight one. Next step, learn how to consolidate a lead/good start, play for the full 80 minutes and put an opposition away.
2) Real depth emerging – Burgess and Barnes can cover the inside backs. Macalam and a fit again Palu at number 8, which has been one of the problems. Still not convinced we have 4 and 5 sorted but hopefully a fit and firing Horwill with Sharpe, and one of Vickerman (although I think he’s taking the piz coming back at the end of the S15), Simmons or Douglas if they can continue to develop on next year/on the NH tour will provide the necessary alternatives. If Alexander can get back fit at tighthead we should be good there, don’t beleive Ma’afi is up to it or can develop his game enough to get up to speed – Slipper looks like he can and can be an excellent backup. In the outside backs, good choice developing if Ioane, Shepherd and Rod Davies can stay fit … raw speed and size is a very powerful strike weapon.
Encouraging, looking forward to the weekend, important we don’t drop off agaionst NZ like Melbourne this year and Wellington last year.
Damo said | September 7th 2010 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I want there to be a home grown rugby centre more than anything BUT if NZ , SA or England had to compete with NRL for players and fans do you think they wouldn’t throw money at an Inglis?
NZ may have already gone down that path – where is Sonny Bill going to end up?
I mean no offense or discouragement to anyone in Wallaby squads, but there are players that we could use if we bought them.
BTW they are not born as , or tattooed as, “league” players. They just happen to be talented boys who are culturally aligned and contracted to another code.
If the shoe fits, pick him.
The rugby skills that Inglis doesn’t yet have are coachable. The rugby skills he does have are un-coachable.
Let’s have Ione and Davies and Chambers Mortlock……….. A champion team will always beat a team of champions etc BUT if Inglis was playing in the under 20′s right now we’d try to buy him. We should not hold back because he is now so obviously and publicly proven as a unique talent. And probably a lot more expensive.
The league “experiment” may not have failed (Rogers and Co.). It just may not have been executed properly yet. If I was a Wallaby forward (I am Not) I probably wouldn’t mind if the ARU threw money at someone who contributed to advantage lines and points after I’d pulled my head out of a ruck.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Damo I always thought Sailor and Rogers didn’t do as well as they could mainly because they both moved over at 27. Tuqiri at 23 was much more successful (for the first five years).
Inglis is 23 and Jarryd Hayne 22. They are both devastating runners at a perfectly young enough age to make excellent conversions. Union has far more experience converting league players than it did in the early part of the decade too. The cost of these players would be easily made up for by the massive crowds they would bring to their Super teams.
A backline such as for example: Genia, O’Connor, Cooper, Giteau, Inglis, Hayne, Beale would be astonishing and perfectly fill out the team, which is fine for players in every other respect. Then I would favour Australia and not New Zealand for the World Cup.
Darwin Stubby said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:39am | Report comment
If, as the dingo has stated, it’s all about the W/cup – then it’s far, far too late to lament what the ARU should have / could have done re Inglis …. he’d never be ready for next year in NZ …
and anyway for everyone out there (and one in particular) look no further than the last major convert – Mark Gasnier – to see that no matter how great you look in one game you’re not guaranteed to morph into a superstar in the other game over night …. or in Gasnie’rs case not at all ….. leaguies really need to want to convert to rugby – classic example – Brad Thorn – someone who has thrown his lot into converting over and not because he’s been seduced by the $ signs at the bottom of a contract ..
Gasnier is a far better example when you’re discussing chasing Inglis or (more stupidly) Hayne .. Oz rugby isn’t set up properly to garner any perceived benefit from these high profile signings, it has very little to do with age, and all to do with the poor structures in place – these guys get thrown wallaby jerseys usually in the first year of signing when in fact they probably shouldn’t even be given Super rugby caps – look how poorly Beale struggled getting thrown in the deep end and he actually played the game – leaguies suffer the same learning on the job problems and often have (like a lot of current wallabies) inherrent faults in their games which never get ironed out …. pick from your current pool – or do what the ARU have done previous try and poach young rugby players from the republic or NZ …
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
DS Gasnier was too old, learnt to play the game in France where he didn’t touch the ball much or speak the language.
In any case if had signed with the ARU this year we could have seen whether he would make it. As it is we just don’t know. For my money 27 was a ridiculous age to move over.
I do think the problems have to do with age. Almost every player under 25 who has converted has been a success, almost every player over 25 less so.
I agree players were mishandled in the early days of league conversion, being thrust into the national teams before they had played anything like enough (Iestyn Harris 240 minutes!). They can probably be handled better with experience.
I don’t think a year is too fast for a player with Inglis’ abilities. Look at how good Chambers became in just one Super season, and he has a twentieth of Inglis’ talent.
Darwin Stubby said | September 7th 2010 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Chambers played rugby prior to going league – hene the more rapid conversion … personally I’d love O’Neill to go spunk even more cash he hasn’t got on unproven, money hunger converts .. Inglis would be all at sea at centre in the wallaby backline … sure may look good against Italy or Canada but would be found out even by second tier nations such as Samoa, Fiji, Scotland … god only knows what Conrad Smith would do to him
If the 2011 w/cup is the be all and end all – then you know what would be a far, far better use of the money you’re expousing spending on unproven league players … spend it on trying to rehabilate an patch up Mortlock
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
DS you clearly have a very low opinion of Inglis’ abilities.
I would bet all the money in the world Scotland would not find Inglis out.
He would immediately cover his costs with the gigantic crowds he would draw to Super rugby.
Inglis by the way also played rugby at school like Chambers. Inglis I don’t think anyone would disagree is a more talented sportsman than Chambers. Chambers, despite being infinitely less talented than Inglis, made more metres per carry than any outside centre in Australian Super rugby sides.
Darwin Stubby said | September 7th 2010 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
not at all – I think Inglis is an excellent league player – it doesn’t make him a rugby union player of any calibre whatsoever – it certainly doesn’t mean because he’s play centre for the Storm he can automatically switch over and play centre for a super rugby team ….
what you say about Tahu not being given time to learn is true – yet somehow it’s exactly what you’re pushing when discussing Inglis … if he was lured across he’d need years not 12 months or less to be turned into an true international quality player – but he wouldn’t get it and my money would be on him joining a long list of poor dual internationals
reds fan said | September 7th 2010 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Played rugby at school? he needs his wiki entry updated then. no mention of it there. and its a rather comprehensive entry.
Gordon said | September 7th 2010 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
I don’t think Inglis played rugby for any significant period at school. Where do you get that information?
CraigB said | September 7th 2010 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
Sounds a lot like SBW to me….
Jiggles said | September 7th 2010 @ 11:49am | Report comment
DS I am with you on this one.
what a waste it would be to fork out for “star” players who have not played the game and do not really deserve to be there.
also what good would hayne or inglis be if they sit behind a wallabies pack that continues to go backwards. forwards win matches, backs determine by how much!
oh and if inglis did decide to come to union, sticking him at 13 would be a nightmare. look how well tahu went there! got eaten alive!
13 is an instinctive position where you have to know rugbys patterns to play, it cannot be taught in a pre-season and only comes with a couple of years of solid work in the position.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Jiggles Inglis is much better than Tahu and as I say elsewhere, several years younger. Tahu moved over too late, was injured all the time, and pretty badly used by Chris Hickey. He was also thrust into the Wallabies after just a handful of Super games.
Jason Robinson, Tuqiri, Thorn, Chris Ashton have all made great conversions so it is possible and if anyone Inglis would succeed.
Look at my comparison of Chambers to Inglis to see. If Chambers can do it, of course Inglis can.
As I say above too, Chambers has most metres per carry of any Australian outside centre this year, so it obviously does not take two years.
Jiggles said | September 7th 2010 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Chambers was always a union player, I remember watching him at school boy level. he went to the storm as the Reds, as was the case back then, couldn’t spot tallent if it turkey splapped them in the forehead.
Jason Robinson and Thorn are the best conversions by far.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Inglis is ten times the league player Robinson was, and although it’s a different game, there’s no reason to think he couldn’t be much better at union too.
Peter K said | September 7th 2010 @ 5:45pm | Report comment
Andrew Walker was easily the best Australian league player to switch to Rugby.
Darwin Stubby said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:15am | Report comment
“With Dan Carter out injured, there may not be a better chance to beat the All Blacks.” … really think that was last year .. the 2010 AB’s are building nicely from their low point of 2009 …
despite all the hullabaloo the AB pack still look a step up in class than what the wallabies can field and that’s what Cruden will benefit from in comparison to a struggling Donald last year … the Hurricanes backline really started to fire once Cooper stopped mucking around and gave Cruden an extended run and ominously (for the wallabies this weekend) that’s when all of sudden Nonu and Smith started to looked really good again
Glad to here you enjoyed the miiddle Brett – hope you didn’t climb the thing
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
Darwin, your hopes can be eased, I did not and had no intention to climb Uluru anyway, and the decision to respect the Anangu peoples’ wishes was well and truly justified when you see the inclines involved. And the climb’s supposed to be on the easy bit!!
Re the “best chance” to knock over the ABs, obviously I’m talking in the context of this season, and with the pressure that will be on Cruden to ensure he’s not another Luke McAlister or Stephen Donald. I know this kid can play, but with what’s happened in Christchurch, this is a big week for New Zealand.
Cooper, on the other hand, sauntered through Sydney Airport yesterday and dismissed claims of his greeness against NZ by saying “I haven’t lost to them either”, which is a great attitude, and one I hope he takes into the game..
Darwin Stubby said | September 7th 2010 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Understand what you’re hinting at re Cruden – however Donald really was nothing more than a stopgap – sure if he took his chance then he’d probably be there through until end of next year as back up – but Cruden’s more in the realm of being groomed long term – so in that instance the pressure isn’t really there to perform or you’re out and that’s underlined somewhat by Henry in selecting another rookie in Slade – the coach has basically underlined his faith in him … (mind you all the talk is of both McCaw and Carter resigning with the NZRFU beyond 2011 – so he may be biding his time a little longer) …
McAllister is a completely different beast – his is a form issue coupled with injuries preventing any type of return to form – if he was playing at level where he was before departing north – then he’d certainly be in the mix … I’ve a feeling that McAllister may be off back north if not selected for the NH tour … there’s just too many prospects coming through and he may look at cashing in now
JB said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Who is Brett Holman?
Please stop putting Jarryd Hayne and Rugby Union in the same sentences…
Brett McKay said | September 7th 2010 @ 1:28pm | Report comment
JB, you haven’t heard of Holminho?!?!
Amateur Hour said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:30am | Report comment
One hoodoo broken – winning on the high veldt.
Let’s hope a second, more recently developed, hoodoo is broken this weekend – playing crap after winning the previous week.
Got to be happy about the depth that’s been developed at Hooker as well. We’re down to our fourth stringer this weekend – Huia Edmonds – who gets a start on the bench against the ABs and from what he showed earlier in the year, he won’t be intimidated or out of place. Othani’s Jacket if you’re reading this, your “kiss of death” comment re S Faingaa was ringing in my ears early last Sunday morning!
One of my favourite moments from that Test on the weekend was watching Quade Cooper fly into his first tackle on Jean De Villiers. I read on another post that he doesn’t lack heart, just technique and from watching that attempt, I’d have to agree. Tackling practice for QC over Christmas and enless high balls for KB should be on the menu.
All in all, though, I’m a much more satisfied Wallabies supporter.
Damo said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:37am | Report comment
KPM I agree Inglis has youth on his side. Can’t help but think Rogers and Sailor had a bit of retirement in them when they crossed over. Tuquiri only stayed because the first world cup (2003) was elusive.
The time has been ripe for Inglis for a couple of seasons now.
If he does not want to cross – well we don’t have a say over that. BUT if he did?
Hayne, I am not as convinced by. He’s occasionally brilliant but no…. I don’t see the same dependable intelligence in Hayne, as there is in Inglis.
Inglis is Ella with size.
kingplaymaker said | September 7th 2010 @ 10:50am | Report comment
Damo young players seem to have not only more motivation but can learn much better. By the time a 27 year-old adapts properly his physical powers will be on the verge of declining. I would say if they don’t get Inglis now, they shouldn’t bother as by the time he’s next free there will be all the problems of a players in their late twenties adapting.
I think O’Neill has gone too far in not offering league players good enough money. He has tried to acquire Hunt, Hayne, Folau, Inglis and Gasnier and failed with all of them. They do cost something.
I think Hayne although less reliable is the other young player of really amazing ability in league. He could play wing and at 22 make a good conversion.
Those two would surely improve the strength of the Wallabies at outside centre and wing.