Quit the moaning and let’s all get on with the footy
For all the calls for a review into rugby league made this week, one thing is perfectly clear: the five days leading up to week two of the finals should officially become known as “moan week,” because quite frankly, that is pretty much all we’ve got.
It’s now become a tradition in week two that everyone with a grievance must stand front and centre and moan until someone drags away the dead horse they’ve been flogging (and that equine probably died of boredom in the first place).
Previously it was all about talking about the pointlessness of the McIntyre system after teams seven and eight were promptly towelled up in week one of the finals. Now that those teams have started winning their first finals match fairly regularly, we’ve needed to listen to the chumps that got dusted play their violins.
This week the Tigers showed that while they haven’t played in the finals for five years that would as sure as hell make sure everyone noticed them by kicking off about the fact that they had to travel to Canberra.
Honestly, by the end of it, who would have thought they’d been ordered to get to capital on foot and over broken glass.
Let’s be clear, the Tigers lost at home, the Raiders won away. Yes, the Tigers may have chosen to play their home game at their opponent’s home ground, but they still made the call.
Perhaps CEO Stephen Humphreys was just showing you why British Airways, the company he used to work for, is in the state it is.
The major plank in their argument was that it was similar to last year’s scenario when the Dragons were beat in week one and then travelled to Brisbane.
Of course, the difference was that the Dragons last year finished first; the Tigers this year finished third. Their mum’s may have been proud, but surely a home final is enough of a reward, maybe David Gallop should have called them up at assembly and given them all gold stars and merit cards.
Over the course of 26 rounds, the Tigers only won three more games than the Raiders, that’s hardly enough to expect the red carpet rolled out wherever they go.
The Tigers were also pissed about the scrum which was called after Simon Dwyer clobbered Jared Warea-Hargreaves. Let’s be honest, they were lucky to get a scrum, that tackle in which contact was made to the head was a penalty every day of the week during the regular season.
I lost count the amount of times I heard a player claim his victim was falling and the referee brush him off with “it doesn’t matter contact to the head was made.”
Steve Clarke bottled it after the vision that the video ref would have decided the game brought him out in a cold sweat.
Of course, the Panthers wanted to ensure they weren’t left out and claimed it was also unfair they had to play at the SFS (which would have been the case under the old system anyway) and Matt Elliot though he’d make up for lost time and throw in his two cents on exotic markets.
This was the area the bookies had done pretty well on in the whinge department, although curiously none of them wanted to see any limits put on betting, except perhaps limits on people actually winning. A usual sore point for those mugs.
Of course, it may all be an elaborate scheme to help the Tigers set themselves up as underdogs.
It’s actually pretty clever to be able to quickly go from “we are so superior we should be playing this match on our turf” to “we are really up against it” in the twinkling of an eye.
The Tigers are playing the old trick of saying half their side is injured and will be rushing to be fit. I’ve seen enough finals footy to know that every single player the Tigers have down as doubtful will play.
The Sydney Morning Herald even ran a story about their “secret weapon” for the match – the hyperbaric chamber.
Just how secret is something when it’s printed in a newspaper 48 hours before the game, especially when it’s something that every club uses.
But the highlight from the Herald was their reporting on Jonathan Thurston’s silly buggers in Brisbane.
One article had leading Herald journalist Roy Masters bemoaning how things were blown up these days because of the amount of recording devices in the public, while another story asked readers “Did you see anything? Send us your MMS.”
Just bring on the footy.
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September 17th 2010 @ 8:20am
oikee said | September 17th 2010 @ 8:20am | Report comment
The Mac system might suck, Thurston giave us a bad headline, the Chamber story was like dragging a dinosaur out of retirement, do we still use these things.
I have to tell you one thing, i have never seen such excitement at games, i am still thinking about that tigers chooks game.
2 fences falling over, (we need to look at termite damage) , and the Green Machine, talk about bottled passion.
This seems to be the revival of rugby league, it started last year with dogs and Eels, now everyone is getting back into the groove.
I will go one further, i think Brisbane has alot to do with the whole thing, their crowds have inspired Sydneyites into thinking, look, it really is cool to follow rugby league.
Nothing tops origin at Suncorp, i will say this, Sydney is starting to wake up i think, the supporters are really making me want to be part of something, part of something bigger. Rock-on Sydney. And Canberra of course, they are crazy wonderful fanatics. Who woke them up.Its all good.
September 17th 2010 @ 8:37am
The Natural said | September 17th 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Yea, and how about the Broncs and all the dodgy calls they get against them!
two words: WORLD CONSPIRACY!!!
September 17th 2010 @ 8:41am
Dean - Surry Hills said | September 17th 2010 @ 8:41am | Report comment
Steve – Are you moaning about other people moaning ? If so, I’d like to take this opportuninty to moan, about your moaning about other people moaning. I’m sure a few others will now moan about my moaning about your moaning about other people moaning.
There is then the likelihood that I will reply by moaning, about their moaning about my moaning about your moaning about other people moaning.
September 17th 2010 @ 11:17am
Strucy said | September 17th 2010 @ 11:17am | Report comment
Moan
September 17th 2010 @ 11:20am
Steve Kaless said | September 17th 2010 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Touche.
September 17th 2010 @ 9:23am
Willo said | September 17th 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
All the bleating and dribbling that the Tigers and their fans have done this week would not have happened if Farah knew how kick a field goal, if Ellis was capable of holding onto the ball as he falls over the try line, if Tuqiri could run down SKD over 90m, if Benji had kept his handbag under his arm, if their lock remembered to pick up the ball from the back of a scrum, if Sheens could coach a team to defend a 13 point lead, or most probably if the club played the game at Leichhardt in the first place! Can’t wait to see what they all wear to Mad Monday.
September 17th 2010 @ 11:01am
Gareth said | September 17th 2010 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Don’t forget “if Benji could kick a conversion to save his life”.
September 17th 2010 @ 10:03am
Mr Cool said | September 17th 2010 @ 10:03am | Report comment
If ya want real moanin’ I will put my missus on to this site!.
September 17th 2010 @ 11:03am
Gob Bluth said | September 17th 2010 @ 11:03am | Report comment
What sort of moaning are you talking about?
September 17th 2010 @ 11:30am
soapit said | September 17th 2010 @ 11:30am | Report comment
i agree. league is about in as healthy a position as it’s been since super league and all people can do is whinge about everything. i wish the digital age would give us an option to watch the footy with an alternate, non whingeing about the ref constantly, commentary.
the way they carry on its as if the whole sytem is rotten. yet the crowds are back, 3 teams in qld, looking to expand and the old club allegiances are coming back to give the game back its history. they can’t be doing too much wrong.
if you’ve got a point to make make it to the right people rather then whingeing on air every week to try and get some momentum behind your opinions. i’ve worked all week unlike them. i dont want to listen to whingeing on firday night, not from the missus and not from them.
September 17th 2010 @ 1:21pm
ScottWoodward.me said | September 17th 2010 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Steve,
I would like to compliment the NRL for sticking to their guns and maintaining the McIntyre System.
There is no question that it constantly offers great exciting games and often with teams that people had written off.
Opponents of the Mac System should think of it as a new competition, completely different from the home and away competition Rounds 1 – 26 which gives up a Minor Premier, similar to EPL.
It also gives up a grading for the top 8 teams and the reward you get for finishing high up is that you get to play a lower graded team on your home turf. This is a huge advantage and if you are not good enough to win in week one of the new competition then you should not be entitled to further rewards. The teams that win in week 1 and keep on winning should get the rails runs. The Mac System rewards winners, and Penrith and Wests Tigers had a golden opportunity to win in week one and they stuffed up. The Raiders and the Roosters were good enough to win and should get the reward.
September 17th 2010 @ 1:32pm
oikee said | September 17th 2010 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Like your argument, but just this morning, i argued this fact. The Tigers who finished 3rd, (diservably so) could have been knocked out completely after putting in a grand final apperance. Now to top that off, they reward, having to go to Canberra for their next game after finishing 3rd. Canberra, who knocked off a weakened Broncos, now get rewarded for finishing 7th.
If we had the other system, it would be reward for winning, home and away. I can understand some people thinking origin disadvantages certain teams, mainly brisbane, but we have moved on sinse then. Brisbane dont have 10 players out anymore, so they are in the same boat now.
Lets move forward, same applies to finals, if you think you can get 30 thousand to a game, dont play it at a 20 thousand stadioum, for crying out loud, this is madness, the game is growing, let it grow, for crying out loud again,.
Hey look Steve, i am moaning again.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:04pm
Steve Kaless said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
Totally agree Scott and I’d imagine that a system that rewards ‘losers’ is in no way any fairer.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:16pm
Scott Woodward said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Steve
I had this argument with a mate in melb.
The reward that Geelong got for finishing 2nd was to play a top 4 team first up. How is that a reward?
What that has done is give the AFL their 2 best teams in a knock out this this weekend which means the Grand Final will not be as exciting as the Collingwood v Geelong game this week. DDDDDDumb!
Just think of our Finals series as a brand new competition and each team gets its rating based on how they went in the Home and away comp.
If you finish ist then you get to play the lowest team as a reward. The home ground advantage is something the NRL have initiated which I like providing the team has a ground that can handle 40k people, if not bad luck, they play on a neutral ground.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:26pm
Steve Kaless said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
Furthermore, why should a team that has snuck in and finished 7th or 8th only have to play a team ranked 5 or 6 in week one.
The only problem with your 40k home ground limit I think only four clubs have home ground that big. Bulldogs, Rabbitohs, Broncos and Roosters. (Toss in the Storm if they shift to Telstra dome).
September 17th 2010 @ 3:36pm
Willy said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
It’s simple Steve.
A top 8 is too many in a 16 team comp – it rewards mediocrity. You only have to win as many as you lose to make the finals!
But with cash on the line, and the excitement it generates late in the season, it’s here to stay.
The compromise should be this – we’ll have a Top 8, but 5 v 8 and 6 v 7 mean than TWO of the bottom teams go home after week one.
That leaves us with a more deserving Top 6. A far more reasonable number in a 16 team comp.
That’s the best reason for going with the AFL system.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:42pm
Scott Woodward said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:42pm | Report comment
Willy
Mediocrity does not come in to it as this is a brand new competition and the trick is that you have to keep winning.
So your idea of 1 playing 4 is not a reward for finishing 1. Playing 8 would be.
September 17th 2010 @ 4:19pm
Willy said | September 17th 2010 @ 4:19pm | Report comment
Scotty – I know how the current system works.
What I’m saying is the AFL system is better because it guarantees eliminating two of the bottow four teams – leaving the best six teams (the top 4 and the best two of the bottom four) to battle it out.
It just makes sense on so many levels.
Imagine if Manly had won last week. The Tigers would have been eliminated after finishing 3rd and losing a brutal game by 1 point after 100 minutes of footy. Ridiculous.
And the fact is the McIntyre System throws up these issues year on year on year.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:33pm
oikee said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
I will get back to you Scott, after the finals. I have taken note of your points.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:44pm
Scott Woodward said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
I think The Dragons v Titans will be an excellent GF.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:48pm
Mega said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
If the Raiders make the GF the NRL will get a very special visitor: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-match-preview/the-green-light-never-goes-out-for-webber-20100916-15eqk.html
September 17th 2010 @ 3:53pm
Springs said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
No, the reward that Geelong got for finishing second was both a home final and a second chance. They were not good enough to win, and even then they still got a home final he next week! That’s a pretty big reward.
And if Geelong is the AFL’s second best team, how come they didn’t beat the third best in week 1?
Last year in the NRL, Bulldogs vs Eels was far more exciting than the Grand Final, in fact the Grand Finals over the last few years have been quite dull. It’s not about excitement, it’s about who deserves to be there.
September 17th 2010 @ 4:21pm
Willy said | September 17th 2010 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
Ditto for Tigers v Saints in 2005.
September 17th 2010 @ 1:28pm
M1tch said | September 17th 2010 @ 1:28pm | Report comment
its friday, only a few hours until the footy!
September 17th 2010 @ 1:33pm
oikee said | September 17th 2010 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
Mitch, i am turning “GREEN” with envy.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:13pm
Vinay Verma said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
Steve, I have a friend who is a dedicated Tigers supporter and he picked up his kids from school and drove of to Canberra about an hour ago. What is it about Tiger supporters that see them travel to Gosford and Canberra and yet we have Manly supporters that won’t travel over the bridge. Should be a cracker of a game and I am looking forward to it.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:28pm
Steve Kaless said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
They don’t call it the “Insular peninsula” for nothing (although I’ve The Shire trades by that name as well). Let’s face the Sea Eagles are happy if their fans travel to Brookvale.
PS More power to your friend, it will certainly give the kids something to talk about on Monday morning, and in all seriousness some of my best memories from a child are about going to the footy with my dad. Hope they enjoy themselves.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:51pm
Vinay Verma said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
Steve,our parents gave us this sense of tradition and enjoymnet..are parents today too self-centred..I know when coaching junior cricket some of the parents considered the coaching a Creche.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:21pm
Scott Woodward said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
Vinay,
Population is the answer. In the fair dinkum department manly should not have a club in such a small area with a deplorable out dated ground. It is a shame the Bears and the Sea Eagles did not work out but strategically it makes sense.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:38pm
Willy said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
Some credit should also go to the success of the Wests/Balmain merger, and the great new club they’ve created.
The Tigers play great footy, are always out in the community doing good things and are an absolute credit to the game.
And for this they get some wonderfully committed supporters.
September 17th 2010 @ 3:53pm
Vinay Verma said | September 17th 2010 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
Scott, this is a true story,myfather in law and one brother in law were fanatic Bears and I was Manly and never shall the twain meet was my war cry.