Local derby displays A-League in all its finery
By phil osopher, 10 Oct 2010 phil osopher is a Roar Guru
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If the larger public could have seen the two Melbourne sides play on Friday night, football would become a mainstream sport in this country in no time at all.
Incidentally, if I heard the commentators use the word ‘derby’ one more time, my nausea would manifest and I’d be reaching for the bucket to save the mess.
But, ironically, I use a cliché myself: football was the winner on the night. That game was, and is, exactly what we need for the growth of the local league in Australia.
The quality of play was good and engaging. But the crucial factor was that a crowd turned out; a full large capacity stadium for a local game, with no vacant seats, and genuine atmosphere.
We usually expect this from overseas, but here it was, the real thing, large and loud. Even a few flares showed up, all from within our own fatal shore.
The existing attitude towards football in Australia is a huge barrier to the acceptance of the game here. Just the other night a friend commented: “The A-League, the most boring thing in the world”.
He has never seen a game at all, save a few snippets on the news, yet felt quite confident his statement would go down well. Most people like this have the same opinion.
I felt compelled to argue, and did, but I didn’t really have any evidence to show.
It reminded me of when I represented myself in court once. My opposition, a bulbous red nose under a wig – a barrister or something – pulled into court with a pile of documents six feet high on a removal trolley, peddled by some young eager law boy.
They had all the evidence in that tower, all indexed with hundreds of flourescent little tags sticking out.
I had a shirt with a button missing, a jacket with fur around the edges, and a coffee stained manila folder with one piece of paper and a few stray dog hairs inside. He foamed at the mouth as he presented Your Honour with all his research.
I gave him an A+ for effort.
Funnily enough, the outcome of that fiasco was better than my defense of local football.
I assured my opponent it’s because of empty stadiums that it appears dull. But I had no smoking gun, no evidence to the contrary, until now. ‘The local derby’ (that’s it, where’s that bucket) provided what I needed, a true spectacle of world class.
If this was more the norm, the public would not be able to resist such entertainment and, if then made aware of it, they may lower their psychological barrier and give the game an Aussie ‘fair go’.
The FFA has been widely criticised but you have to admit they’ve done something right here.
Keep it up and I may be able to employ a boy to wheel my own trolley of evidence about, and maybe get me one of those wigs and a fine scotch addiction to match my arrogance as I confidently show the judge how engaging the local football product can be in Australia.
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October 10th 2010 @ 6:40am
Cpaaa said | October 10th 2010 @ 6:40am | Report comment
As I said on another thread, that the rescheduling of this match was a blessing. No other A-League games on this weekend and all the focus was on Melbourne V Melbourne and then Sydney the following nite.
I also like the fact that the commentators didnt make a big deal out of flares.
It actually was a very nice gesture from the fans to lite it up. All in appreciation to what a fine job Hatamoto is doing.
Heart hasnt been playing all that well this season and I think this crowd made all the difference. May it continue.
October 10th 2010 @ 7:16am
MVDave said | October 10th 2010 @ 7:16am | Report comment
“Football was the winner” that cliche will do for a summary.
Dont normally watch commercial FTA 6pm news but last night thought l would to see how (if) they reported the game. Ch 7 well done a good summary and highlights. Ch 9 WTF? No game highlights but a 2 minute beat up on the non story of 3 flares being thrown onto the ground in injury time (all thrown by the same guy who was taken away and charged…rightly so) and also used a you tube video of a flare lit at a train station on the way to the ground. So out of 26,000 crowd one drop kick no arrests no trouble no one hurt and guess which aspect Ch 9 chose to go with…you just shake your head in disbelief…they didnt even run a highlights package of the game in their sports section so you wouldnt have known the result… seem to be doing their best to reinforce the sokkah hooligans angle.
October 10th 2010 @ 8:00am
Realfootball said | October 10th 2010 @ 8:00am | Report comment
Just reinforces what a battle it is to establish football in the mainstream in this country. What we are seeing with 9 is an active and hostile agenda towards the code, driven by executives with allegiances tied to other football codes. The positive in this is that they feel they need to do it.
But it does emphasise the absolute necessity of FFA actively promoting and marketing the A-League. The mainstream media are – and there is no doubt about this – aligned against the code, some more than others. The FTA commercial networks have massive investments tied up in NRL and AFL, and nothing tied up in football. Businesses will always, of course, act to protect their commercial interests, and that means minimising positive publicity and maximising negative publicity for football.
For me, one of the most persuasive arguments for a FTA package is that it gives at least one commercial FTA network a commercial interest in the A-League – and with that comes a wider net of positive coverage of the competition. For the same reason, it is crucial that the FTA package does not go to SBS, something the A-League clubs fully recognise.
October 10th 2010 @ 11:33am
Whites said | October 10th 2010 @ 11:33am | Report comment
Yes. Going back to SBS is a dead end. The next deal should involve at least 1 game a week on a commercial network at whatever time they want. The A-League is not in the position at this stage to be to picky.
October 10th 2010 @ 9:25pm
Axel V said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:25pm | Report comment
Wow that’s amazing, did channel 9 mention that no-one was hurt? Did they mention that 2000 MV supporters marched together and through some Heart supporters that dared to stand there ground and yet not a finger was touched?
That’s pretty sad!
October 10th 2010 @ 9:37pm
Art Sapphire said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:37pm | Report comment
Channel 9 are a joke. Their studio in Melbourne is about a kilometre from the stadium. They would have told a cameraman to go down and find footage which can be used to denigrate the game in the evening bulletin.
The fact that they did not show highlights of the game during their sports bulletin is further evidence of their true intentions.
October 10th 2010 @ 9:52pm
Rellum said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
Channel 9 were a discrace on Sat night. It was the worst case of anti football bias I have every seen. If channel 7 and the Herald Sun can bring themselves to report on the game properly, you would think 9 could as well.
How scared of football can they be?
On the game, I was proud to be there as a Heart fan, hopefully being part of something that will grow into a great sporting event in this country.
October 10th 2010 @ 5:15pm
Australian Football said | October 10th 2010 @ 5:15pm | Report comment
“It reminded me of when I represented myself in court once. My opposition, a bulbous red nose under a wig – a barrister or something – pulled into court with a pile of documents six feet high on a removal trolley, peddled by some young eager law boy.”
Ha, ha Phil Osopher,
another good piece and laugh. I so enjoy what you write and I loved reading your above experience (it was funny). For me it sort of reflects on Frank Lowy, Master Football Administrator, and his little novice Football Boy, Ben Buckley, running around with the 2022 Football World Cup bid book on his trolley after him. Although in this scenario, I hope we win the Big Prise..
After the Football world cup bid has been won—we will see all of those TV networks and their suits; pushing trolleys around stacked high with Football TV Proposals to cover the FIFA Football World Cup and the HAL. The Suits will be pushing one-another aside, hopefully trampling over Demetriou in the rush—clambering after Frank Lowy and his Football novice Ben Buckley—what beautiful sight that would be.. Get out the cigars lads—the TV Networks are by passing the other codes because a new dawn has come to pass. Football has arrived in the Australian Mainstream Media—-in a very big way..
October 10th 2010 @ 6:53pm
Tortion said | October 10th 2010 @ 6:53pm | Report comment
Who are these people who buy tickets to sporting events and don’t turn up.
October 10th 2010 @ 9:22pm
Axel V said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:22pm | Report comment
Heart people!
The maximum capacity is 30,000, 26,000 turned up, there was at least 2000+ green coloured seats in the Heart end which was “sold out”. There were quite a few empty corporate seats, and a little bit that were empty as well in tier 3. Still, 26,000/30,000 is 87% full! It’s like having a sell out at the MCG and 87,000 turn up, except of course AAMI Park is much smaller!
But the atmosphere there was breath taking, as the article mentions, if we showed this match to the majority of Australia, alot of people would have loved it like they do with the Socceroo’s and EPL. Pity it was confined to the people that went to the stadium and the small portion of fox sports subscribers! Lack of exposure hurts…
October 10th 2010 @ 9:29pm
Art Sapphire said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:29pm | Report comment
They didn’t buy tickets. Family membership for Heart gives members 2 adult and 4 child passes.
I don’t know many familes that have 4 kids.
They probably factored this in when they sold GA ticket in the Heart section which accounts for the empty seats.
October 10th 2010 @ 9:32pm
Axel V said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:32pm | Report comment
excuses Art!
And please….can we never talk about what happened on the pitch again?
October 10th 2010 @ 9:43pm
Art Sapphire said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:43pm | Report comment
Their not excuses Axelv – I am sure the Heart people will be trying to work out a solution to this as people did miss out on seeing the game as it was sold out.
Everything about the night was fantastic.
You should just hope Ernie can get a team up in 2 months that can be more competitive
October 10th 2010 @ 9:14pm
j said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:14pm | Report comment
Heart winning was the best possible outcome. Now there’s a real rivalry!
October 10th 2010 @ 9:39pm
Axel V said | October 10th 2010 @ 9:39pm | Report comment
As the article mentions, This was a very exciting match for everyone. The quality of the play on the field, the passion of the players, the passion of the fans! The noise is like nothing i’ve ever seen before, I brought some people that never go to A-League games, 1 guy ,i literally had to nag him to come! And he loved every moment of it and wants to go to more games!
From what i’ve heard, the people that watched it on TV loved the occasion as well! As the article mentions, it’s just such a shame that the majority of Australia didn’t get the chance to experience something special like this! What a match it was, As an MV supporter, despite the embarrasing loss to such a terrible team!
, part of me was happy because of the fun and enjoyment I had of attending, and that the match was good for the A-League!
October 11th 2010 @ 7:35am
hardsy said | October 11th 2010 @ 7:35am | Report comment
Great game, and hopefully the start of a great rivalry. Maybe if the 2022 bid is successful football might even receive the coverage it deserves from commercial networks
October 11th 2010 @ 7:36am
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Commercial networks are pretty good at assessing the commercial worth of TV products.
October 11th 2010 @ 10:00am
Axel V said | October 11th 2010 @ 10:00am | Report comment
They commericial networks are also pretty good at lacking credibility and pushing their own agenda’s!
October 11th 2010 @ 1:28pm
TomC said | October 11th 2010 @ 1:28pm | Report comment
They should be pretty good at it, but I they aren’t always.
Channel 10 appear to have greatly overestimated the value of the Commonwealth Games, for instance.
October 11th 2010 @ 1:46pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
The Commonwealth Games are probably a slow burn issue – a very, very gradual decline in interest over a 28 year period.
There must come a time when even the average Australian must see that it’s bordering on ridiculous that we would be winining half of the gold medals on offer.
October 11th 2010 @ 1:52pm
GeneralAshnak said | October 11th 2010 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
I know one thing, the Commonwelath Games has seriously impacted on my crime drama viewing!
October 11th 2010 @ 1:55pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
When’s the Burn Notice coming back?!
October 11th 2010 @ 2:23pm
GeneralAshnak said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
One of my 2 favorite shows
October 11th 2010 @ 3:00pm
punter said | October 11th 2010 @ 3:00pm | Report comment
How unusal, a guy who follows a sport with NO international flavour is not interested in an International event.
October 11th 2010 @ 3:07pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
As I said, interest amongst the general population has been dropping gradually over a 28 year period.
One hopes that this means that the Government will have the courage to implement the recommendations of the Crawford report.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:12pm
Art Sapphire said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
MF’s sole contribution to this thread and what was one of the best nights of football ever witnessed in this city and the A-League is a blinkered observation on the worth of TV products.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:24pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
I had a prior engagement last Friday night.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:40pm
Art Sapphire said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
I had a prior engagement on Friday Night too. I went to AAMI Park.
I also watched a replay on TV the following morning when enjoying my morning coffee.
Commercial networks would have seen that the product on Friday night and realised that the “product” when done right has a big future.
Everyone knows Channel 9 are going big with their AFL TV rights bid.
No surprise then that the only news service in Melbourne to portray the derby in a negative light and not show any match highlights was Channel 9′s.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:47pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:47pm | Report comment
I needed to have a sleep in on Saturday morning.
You can be assured that the commercial FTAs would have all relevant data on hand to put a proper value on all potential TV product.
They would have assessed a certain value in the derby.
But equally, they’d be aware that they can’t buy the three derbies each season.
There’s no reason for anyone to get upset about that – it’s business.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:55pm
Art Sapphire said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
Considering the replay was on at 11am that’s quite a sleep in.
Anyway, just means that people who were at the game and watched the game are better placed to make an assessment.
Describing how FTA’s operate is not required.
I am sure most people would have a handle on that.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:58pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
You’ve never slept in past 11am?
C’mon – you’ve lived in Spain – you’d be getting home at around 11 am!!
October 11th 2010 @ 3:09pm
Art Sapphire said | October 11th 2010 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
I haven’t lived in Spain. I visited the place over 20 years ago. Good times.
October 11th 2010 @ 3:16pm
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Well – one night in Spain is enough to know that what I’m saying is true!!
October 11th 2010 @ 10:05pm
Hilditch out! said | October 11th 2010 @ 10:05pm | Report comment
Am I missing something?
The NSL had loads of derby games. Always great for the fan clashes.