Karmichael Hunt solid on a historic AFL night
By James Dampney, 20 Feb 2011 James Dampney is a Roar Pro
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The Gold Coast’s Karmichael Hunt has had a solid AFL introduction, showing just enough to suggest he may prove the cynics wrong and make a career in a third code.
In a historic night at Blacktown Olympic Park, the Suns upset Sydney by three points in their first match in the pre-season cup before they knocked off Greater Western Sydney 0.8.4 (52) to 0.4.3 (27) to ensure a surprise spot in the quarter-finals.
The Swans had opened the night with a crushing 79-point victory over a goal-less GWS, but the Giants showed far more spirit in their second match, 12 months out from their AFL debut.
The Suns play their first game in the season proper against Carlton on April 3, and with the likes of Gary Ablett and Nathan Bock still to come in, they could prove a handful in 2011.
Without Ablett and marquee Giant recruit Israel Folau, the spotlight was on Hunt.
Starting at fullback and still carrying more bulk than a typical AFL defender, the former rugby league international showed reasonable aerobic capacity, albeit in games played over two 20-minute halves.
He had a steadying hand in the young Gold Coast backline, directing traffic and marshalling troops in an encouraging performance, finishing the game against Sydney with six disposals and three marks.
Hunt, who also had a brief stint in French rugby, then had a similar involvement in the second match and Swans coach John Longmire felt Hunt had shown glimpses of talent.
“I was probably more looking at our boys and seeing what they do, so I didn’t notice him a lot because I wasn’t looking for him to be honest,” Longmire said.
“But the times I saw him he did okay a few times.”
He also wasn’t surprised by the competitiveness of the Suns, saying they’ve got some “fantastic talent”.
David Swallow and Brandon Matera impressed for the Suns, while fellow youngsters Dylan Shiel and Jeremy Cameron showed good signs for GWS.
The AFL would consider the evening a success, with a full-house of 9447 people showing decent support for the Giants.
Hunt himself was fairly pleased with his performance, but knows he still has a long way to go to fulfil his potential.
“I did enjoy it, it’s been a long build-up but it was great to be out there finally,” he said.
“I guess I’m quite happy where I’m at, but I still have a lot of work to do.
“I’m just looking forward to starting training back and it’s on again next week.”
Most expected Sydney to progress comfortably straight to the quarter-finals, but instead it is the Suns who will face West Coast in Perth next week.
Gold Coast coach Guy McKenna, however, wasn’t surprised by his team’s performance.
“I thought our work-rate in the first game was excellent,” he said.
“The chemistry is going to be our greatest challenge, but I thought first-up everyone was on a high and then in the second game they were a bit flat, but still ran out on top.”
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February 20th 2011 @ 5:50am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 5:50am | Report comment
James James…seriously you think Hunt had a solid game?..seriously….were you watching the same game?….it was the one at Blacktown right?
My observations of Hunt’s game – he dropped two overhead marks that no other player in the AFL would miss, in general play he frequently got caught in no man’s land and his own team mates ran around him with handballs…I counted 4 possessions not 6 (3 kicks, one handball), and in only one of those possessions (the handball) did he go and win the ball and move it on – the kicks he got were from a free kick (high tackle in the goal square) and twice he was used as a ‘go through’ player as they switched play out of defence so he was unmanned when he received the ball…..and as a defender there were numerous times where Hunt failed to leave his man to meet the contest as he should have…and he lost a marking contest with Adam Goodes in the 50m (no shame I guess) which lead to a goal….also he made no effective tackles that I recall, and he spoilt the ball in a situation where he’d made good position and should have taken a mark…..if there were 2 other possessions in addition to the 4 I saw I must have blinked and missed them…..Hunt was certainly not conspicuous in any of the good passages of play from GC and there were a few good passages – there were times were he could have become involved in the play in the midfield but he was too slow to react and didn’t seem to know where to when GWS turned the ball over…
so that was all the negatives, and to be realistic there were a few!!!….the positives as I saw it are that he can kick – OK I never saw him have to kick the ball under pressure but if he has a free kick or if they move the ball through him on a switch of play then he can cope with that…..he tried his heart out and he concentrated – he is clearly out of his depth but he did try very hard… and he kept up the enthusiasm even after dropping marks and making other mistakes he wouldn’t even be aware of….and he did try to direct traffic at the back etc which I guess is positive but I thought it was also a bit comical – here’s a guy who clearly has very limited experience trying to tell other far more experienced players where to go?…mmm…I think Hunt should just focus on his own game
I feel a bit sorry for Hunt – given his centre stage profile in RL you wonder wether he’ll get a bit sick of being less that a bit player in AFL proceedings… I think “solid introduction” is an unbelievably generous description…in the whole game I saw him win the ball in general play once, and he was not involved in any of the numerous passages of good play from GC….I think Hunt will improve (a little) but because he lacks a background in the game only so much improvement is possible….and he’s too slow of foot, and of ‘mind’, to be a midfielder so I think he’ll be carried in the team as a defender….
good luck to Hunt…maybe he will prove cynics like me wrong…. my guess is he’ll guts in out for 2 seasons at most getting his handful of possessions a game and make his handful of mistakes…. I think in the end both Hunt and the GC club will be looking for an early release…. after 2 seasons Hunt’s real value to GC (publicity) will have been served….Hunt can take the cash and hopefully also take some new skills back in his inevitable return to RL….. gee I hope Folau is better for GWS but I somehow I doubt he will be….
February 20th 2011 @ 12:53pm
The_Wookie said | February 20th 2011 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
thats a damn harsh review of the player, not borne out by the stats or the match footage. yes he could have been better, but he was far from an embarrassment and what with his first game at this level, its about where you’d expect him to be. Not to mention he spent a good part of the swans match playing on Adam Goodes who is a massively talented brownlow medallist/premiership winner and highly experienced player who is bigger, faster and more knowledgeable that Hunt would be a year in.
Part of why Hunt will improve because as mentioned (a) it was his first taste of senior AFL footy (b) he wont be playing on Adam Goodes in every match and (c) he wont be playing in a backline v GWS that hardly saw the ball for half the match.
February 20th 2011 @ 1:19pm
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 1:19pm | Report comment
maybe it was a bit harsh but that’s just what I saw…..that’s my honest opinion….I did give him points for his kicking and his concentration which are things I think he can control…if he’d come out and played really well I’d be just as happy to have agreed and said – ‘wow Hunt can really play!!’….but he can’t…he is a rookie and he plays like one – he makes basic mistakes and he looks a bit lost at times….
the other issue that will make it harder is that 2 x 20 mins NAB ‘kick and giggle’ games against a Swans squad filled with second tier players is hardly going to be his hardest test….it’s only going to get harder when he plays 4 quarters for 4 points…
February 20th 2011 @ 6:03pm
Wayne maumasi said | February 20th 2011 @ 6:03pm | Report comment
GoGWS,
thank you for the details of hunts performance,like any story there are hidden agendas and are camouflage in ink.
As a lover of all sports the most intriguing component of the chosen disciplined is the athlete. Your claims and descriptions seem to base on personal experiences within the afl code, and at what level ? but none the less your insights are very interesting.
I believe you are critical of hunts criteria & resume which has allow him to participate in a code who’s upper management business plan is to provide a way forward in terms of marketing and expansion.
If you were a fence sitter from another code watching karmichael contribution ,you would notice apart from his body type he did not look out of place considering curiosity was involve.
From analytical view point yes there is room for improvement,from a business angle are funds well spent. Why? The Demographic of GWS has a high % of polynesian residents they are creatures of habitat, cultural , religions & pride are values they practice.To see folau & hunt perform on a unique stage will in time open doors and AFL realizes this potential.
So in ten years time when Bluely confesses that the hunt project was a publicity stunt your probably will be right Ask Bluely on hunts profile, my guess similar to his previous coaches would have traits such as driven,versatile,hardworking,skillful & coachable.
Look i am not pretending to know khunt nor am i trying to push his barrow.When someone comes into a league at the age of
17 plays 2 codes at a high level surely he has got something to offer.Is hunt denying somebody else a opportunity?Probably.Would there be interest in hunt from other clubs considering market as-well as profile value?Probably,probably not.Mike pyke springs to mind.From research in reference to “seeing hunt direct traffic as being comical ” i believe his assignments were similar to his NRL & top 14 rugby games.Gary Ablett seem to like what he saw in regards to managing the troops.
What seems clear here is the fact you cannot convert a AFL or NRL traditionalist into accepting hunts resume I thoroughly respect their position,but while they remain seated their beloved brands are moving forward with or without them.Either you buy into or you dont.
DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME
February 21st 2011 @ 6:50pm
GoGWS said | February 21st 2011 @ 6:50pm | Report comment
Read my comments on the second game….against a weaker opposition (GWS) Hunt did do a few handy things….I still think he’s got a long long way to go but he’s got a few things on his side… he’s been given this great one-off chance that no other player at his level would get – his RL profile has given him a free pass to play in the AFL to help establish a team in RL territory…
I don’t hate him…good on him…he’s going to make more money in the next 3 yrs than many people make in their working life!!…can’t ague with that….that sort of money will help sooth any wounds he has from the inevitable criticism that will come….he’ll do his 2 or 3 years in the AFL and head back to the NRL with swollen pockets full of wads of cash..and maybe he’ll pick up a few tricks that help him in the NRL….
February 20th 2011 @ 8:33pm
Mark Young said | February 20th 2011 @ 8:33pm | Report comment
Hi GoGWS
I’m pretty sure that you will find James Dampney is a writer for the Australian Associated Press not The Roar, http://au.linkedin.com/pub/james-dampney/9/ab0/385
His article is here since The Roar regularly runs AAP articles for us to enjoy and discuss.
But if you want to criticise him best to try and contact him directly instead of writing comments here on The Roar.
Glad you enjoyed your night at the game.
February 20th 2011 @ 6:16am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 6:16am | Report comment
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-new-dawn-as-suns-rise-to-outshine-young-swans-20110219-1b0jg.html
Well David Sygall was even more lavish in his praise of Hunt….he called if ‘eye-cathcing” and “polished”….wow …I would have used “shocker” or “tried hard” but there you go….I now know not to take seriously any AFL articles written by Sygall because he clearly knows nothing about the game…
February 20th 2011 @ 6:41am
Hk47 said | February 20th 2011 @ 6:41am | Report comment
Hunt wasn’t there yet. Tried hard, disposal looks neater, but dropped a couple of easy’s, and just doesn’t know how to create.
Standing a meter to the right, and a couple behind Coad (I think), he had an awesome opportunity, to get a handpass and burst up the ground. He goes back to mind his invisable opponent, who pushed up the ground earlier.
Still, he’s got 3 seasons to get better. Why not let him be.
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February 20th 2011 @ 7:53am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 7:53am | Report comment
Yeah I agree…but when you see journalists talk it up and use words like “solid…eye-catching….polished” then I think it’s almost an obligation to tell it how it is so people who weren’t there get another perspective that’s a bit more down to earth…. Hunt is a first year player with no background in the game and that’s exactly how he played…he played like a very green rookie – he made mistakes and had minimal influence – almost no influence…. perhaps he’ll get a bit better over the journey but based on what I saw he is a fair way off the mark even for a rookie….truth be told, Hunt simply wouldn’t get a run at any other club in the AFL … that’s the truth…
February 20th 2011 @ 8:37am
betamax said | February 20th 2011 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Good, bad or indifferent, for a guy who has never played the game, to run out and compete with professionals at the top level after a matter of months of training is a blight on your game. Sorry guys, but this exercise is doing the AFLs credibility no favours.
February 20th 2011 @ 9:14am
OzFootballSherrin said | February 20th 2011 @ 9:14am | Report comment
betamax -
The step up that Hunt will have to deal with from playing a Rnd 1 NAB cup kick and giggle game or two compared to a real season match with 4 premiership points on the line is a massive difference.
That the opposition on the night included GWS with a bunch of 18 year old kids (who whilst having a better basis within the game, are giving away a lot to Hunt in respect to professional experience, physical hardness etc).
btw – re credibility and competing. Competing is done at many levels. It’s based in the main on being able to find and exploit your strengths whilst avoiding being exposed for your weaknesses. For credibility, try that the coaches of the code know enough about what they are doing that they can appropriate transform an athlete, and a footballer (a multi discipline footballer). There’s still a long way to go. But, the ‘Scientific’ components of the transformation seem to be tracking okay.
That just leaves the less ‘Scientific’ components.
As Gerard Whately observed, the press coverage indicating that Hunt looks to have advanced far enough that he may not be a liability. That’s high praise indeed!!!!!
February 20th 2011 @ 9:46am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 9:46am | Report comment
beta – he got one contested possession…. one…. and with that one he was a dear in the headlights, held the ball too long and scrambled an ineffective handball away….as i said the others were a free kick and two uncontested possessions on a switch of play…and where were the much anticipated RL tackling skills?…I didn’t see him lay a single tackle (and I didn’t expect to)….his largest stat was ‘unforced errors’…..so your definition of compete is very loose indeed…a random amateur AFL defender plucked from any Melbourne crowd would have done better, seriously…. please don’t flatter Hunt with the decriptor “compete”….he was ‘competing’…he was out there but never really got into the pay…..I give him 10/10 for application and enthusiasm, 5/10 for his kicking (though these were under no pressure) and that’s were the points end – in fact a few minuses follow for his errors…
look I think even Hunt would be a bit embarrassed by word like polished and eye-catching…he was neither and he would know that…he even said it himself – he has more work to do…
beta – you’re implying Hunt was chosen for his playing ability…there is not one other AFL club in Australia that would put Hunt on their list…not one…and probably not many WAFL, VFL, SANFL clubs either for that matter,,,,he wouldn’t make the 38 player list of any AFL team let alone actually get a game….he’s been given an opportunity no other player of his ability would be afforded…. and he was/is being goven it becase of his profile…he knows, we all know it….let’s see what happens – perhaps the rapid elevation will help him develop……and let’s not try and mak cheap points by try to read anything else into it that’s simply not there – draw conclusions that we all know are BS…
February 20th 2011 @ 10:00am
betamax said | February 20th 2011 @ 10:00am | Report comment
GoGWS, I think it would be naive to think that the Suns won’t try and play Hunt as much as possible. He is there number one drawcard amongst the uninitiated and needs to be seen as a valuable acquisition. So they will elevate Hunt to a position which is clearly beyond him, and in the meantime rob a younger player, who has probably grown up with and been committed to AFL, of a chance. All in the name of this “publicity” myth.
Do you not see the folly in this?
February 20th 2011 @ 10:22am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Agree with you……but Folau/Hunt are just two players out of how many?….there’s 18 AFL teams and each team offers contracts to 38 players…so what’s that? …nearly 700 spots in the AFL up for grabs….so if a young player feels ‘robbed’ then I’d suggest he’s being a bit of a cry baby… the two spots Folau/Hunt have taken make no difference overall….either you’re good enough to be drafted or you’re not….and if you’re claiming Hunt or Folau ruined your chances then I’m afraid you’ve got a serious problem and lack of perspective….
folly?… well some people think it is… Hunt is getting the cash and GC are getting the publicity….both are happy…both get what they want….McKenna protesteth too much – he keeps repeating that Hunt is an AFL player on merit but his return to this point at every turn seems a bit desperate to me… I think if you sit down with McKenna and have a beer with him in 10 yrs time he’d basically ‘fess up and say it was a publicity stunt …
I hope Hunt does improve…but just being realistic about it I really wouldn’t bet on it though…. I think he’ll hope that he can progress to a point where he gets half a dozen effective possessions a game and contributes to the team, and is not a liability…
February 20th 2011 @ 11:01am
Humble Minion said | February 20th 2011 @ 11:01am | Report comment
GoGWS, you said in the other thread that you only saw the first game, so I assume that you’ve caught up with the second one by now.
But where are you getting your numbers from?
According to the stats I’m looking at (from the Herald-Sun site, which I’m fairly sure uses the same Champion Data stats that the AFL do), Hunt got 3 contested possessions in each game, and only had one clanger (‘unforced error’ is a tennis term I’ve never, ever heard used in an Aussie Rules football context by the way) total over the two games. Which is much more in line with the game I saw him play.
He’s not there yet and there’ll be another learning curve coming once the real season starts and the pace increases, but his performance yesterday was quite respectable.
February 20th 2011 @ 12:53pm
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
I’m telling you what I saw…from the first game only…..one contested possession in general play and the other three uncontested possessions were from a free kick and two switches of play….i trust my own eyes …the journos description of Hunt having a solid game was way off the mark so what makes you think reporting of the stats is accurate?
yes i used ‘unforced error’ – i was joking…yes clangers is the AFL term which i think only covers ineffective disposals …I don’t think dropped marked count as clangers do they……Hunt dropped two very simple overhead marks directly in front of where i was watching – he had the best position (the sit) in each case but fluffed it….and he looked a bit lost out there at times – he seemed to be following specific instructions for inside the 50 (occupy the space in front of your man) and outside the 50m (occupy the space behind your man)….and to his credit Hunt was very keen//enthusiastic but the problem he’ll face is that it gets a bit chaotic out there and sometimes you need to react and depart a bit from set instructions…sometimes you need to improvise, and attact by leaving your man to create options….the patterns of play are a lot less predictable than what he’s been used to in RL,,,
I’m sure Hunt will be going over the tapes with the GC coaching staff to learn….he’ll get better over the season but have no illusions about him being ‘polished’…or ‘solid’….he wasn’t…
February 21st 2011 @ 6:32pm
GoGWS said | February 21st 2011 @ 6:32pm | Report comment
I’ve now seen the second game…. Hunt was still pretty quiet but he actually did some very good work with ‘gather and handball’ and a ‘nifty little sidestep and run’ but in both cases he missed the chance to go on with it to offer a one-two give and receive option – most AFL players would do this instinctively without a second thought and yet doing this wouldn’t have even occurred to Hunt….in the limited play I saw from Hunt I haven’t seen him look for long options in general play, his first instinct (in general contested play) seems to be to look for shorter handball options which I guess you’d expect given his RL background…looking for short handball options is not always what he’ll need to do….
Happy to say that against weaker opposition (GWS) Hunt did actually do few good things but overall he was still pretty quiet…he’s still got a lot to learn…
February 21st 2011 @ 5:56pm
Guido said | February 21st 2011 @ 5:56pm | Report comment
Yeah, I dont reckon an AFL player could make the grade in NRL and learn the intracacies of running and holding a ball at the same time, and catching and throwing underarm passes.
February 21st 2011 @ 7:27pm
Koops said | February 21st 2011 @ 7:27pm | Report comment
Do you reckon they could learn to dummy and then throw a cut out pass, thats getting mighty technical !!.
What about throwing the ball backwards, but running forward, that may be confusing !! … i should stop now.
February 21st 2011 @ 9:18pm
OzFootballSherrin said | February 21st 2011 @ 9:18pm | Report comment
how long do you think it’d take ‘em to realise that kicking a goal isn’t the objective,
that, the main ‘goal’,
is to touch the ball to the ground,
and, not something tricky like under the x-bar,
but, the full width of the field,
at what point would the convert stop rolling in laughter on the ground, replace the mirth with a level of shock as the realisation of sincerity dawns, and, he re-confirms, “touch the ball ON the ground?…..that’s it?”
February 22nd 2011 @ 12:38am
ian said | February 22nd 2011 @ 12:38am | Report comment
OzFootball Sherrin,
I See you have upset a few more people with your misguided and uneducated opinions.
I find it difficult to understand your extremely poor grammar and written word.
Although you do say that the objective of this game ,you call Australian Rules, which in fact is Australian Rules Football , is not to kick a goal but to touch the ball on the ground.
Gee that means my other 2 yr old girl could give it a go.
Just one question for you, why in the past 135 years has this game you call Australian Rules not gone to even 1 other country? A simple question which maybe you could address without running to the interchange bench for a break.
February 22nd 2011 @ 5:53am
GoGWS said | February 22nd 2011 @ 5:53am | Report comment
Ian – why is cricket played in India and Pakistan but not in China?…think about it mate…why is soccer played at any serious level only in europe or former European colonies? (and please don’t come back with the nonsense lie that soccer is played in 200 countries – whatever)….why is RUnion played in former English or European countries?…
Ian I’m afraid you’re conflating two very different ideas….. on the one hand we have the historical spread of culture through colonisation/immigration and on the other the intrinsic worth of a game…..why does Australia have cricket, Runion and RLeague – well it’s fpr the very same reason we speak the language we do…. get over mate,….why does our near northern neighbour Indonesia not have cricket, RUnion & RLeague?
You’re right Ian it was a simple question….a simple-minded question..
February 22nd 2011 @ 8:51am
guido said | February 22nd 2011 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Ian, you obviously haven’t turned your sarcasm meter on today.
Also, NFL is not played in too many countries at any real level, and you can’t count the US paid for Euro league. The yanks dont care, they are proud of their native game, as AFL fans are of theirs.
February 20th 2011 @ 8:46am
St Clair said | February 20th 2011 @ 8:46am | Report comment
How did the GWS supporters go?
Did they find “Greater Western Sydney, clap clap clap” a bit of a mouthfull?
February 20th 2011 @ 10:00am
GoGWS said | February 20th 2011 @ 10:00am | Report comment
“GIants…Giants”….the cheering was fine….good night all round… a great little AFL venue and great atmosphere…a bit like WAFL football in the 1970s…GWS got smashed but they show patches of good play… they do much better when then recruit some senior players…
February 20th 2011 @ 8:53am
mds1970 said | February 20th 2011 @ 8:53am | Report comment
I was out at Blacktown last night, and I thought Hunt did OK. He’s learning his new game well and did some good stuff – I recall a brilliant smother in the game against the Swans and then a handball about 30 second later; and a wag in the crowd near me called out “Knock on”, “Forward pass”.
I was happy with the night, and I think all three clubs got something positive out of it. Gold Coast showed they’re the real deal by topping the group. The Swans took out bragging rights over their cross-city rivals with a convincing win.
And for my club, GWS Giants, the first game was a football lesson – which is to be expected with a development team made up mainly of teenagers up against seasoned professionals. But after copping a shellacking in the first game and conceding three goals in the first five minutes against the Suns, the boys showed a lot of character to bounce back and lead at half time, and instead of dropping their heads and capitulating they fought all the way. And although the majority of the crowd were Swans, I’d estimate about a third of the crowd were Giants and the new club’s fan base continues to build.
February 20th 2011 @ 12:55pm
The_Wookie said | February 20th 2011 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
Theres some real talent down there at GWS, they’ve still got 12 months to get bigger and recruit some experience, but if the Gold Coast is anything to go by, its going to be a very good 2012.
February 20th 2011 @ 9:08am
Fence sitter said | February 20th 2011 @ 9:08am | Report comment
I thought Special K went OK. He laid a very solid shepherd – a skill that is counter intuitive for a former RL pro.
The Giants kids showed a lot of pluck and the Suns are improving. I was impressed by Charlie Dixon. I had never been to Blacktown Oval before. There were lots of kids and families there. A good night for footy.
This is the pre season after all.
February 20th 2011 @ 1:00pm
The_Wookie said | February 20th 2011 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
I was also impressed with Charlie Dixon, also and big Nick, Swallow, and even McGain despite his occasional screw ups. I was impressed they were missing several of their key experienced players from the GC lineup (Ablett, Bock etc)
For GWS, Stevens is a freaky talent and just looks so relaxed and calm, if the giants can keep him, thats going to be a superb pickup, and the headband wearing dude for GWS was bloody impressive too.
February 20th 2011 @ 10:40am
Hk47 said | February 20th 2011 @ 10:40am | Report comment
I loved the little bit of soccer I saw at black town. Like the goalkeeper from the goal kick, when the boundary umpire threw the ball in. Hilarious.
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February 20th 2011 @ 11:19am
The Link said | February 20th 2011 @ 11:19am | Report comment
Nice to read some views from people at the game to balance the media reports.
It looked like alot of the crowd left after the Swans played?
What was the % of fans in the crowd GWS / Swans?
February 20th 2011 @ 7:36pm
Australian Football said | February 20th 2011 @ 7:36pm | Report comment
maybe swans 74.99%, giants 25% and suns 0.01%
February 21st 2011 @ 1:46pm
DB said | February 21st 2011 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
That one Suns supporter must of been lonely