For a man who has weathered his fair share of media storms while managing the AFL’s biggest names, Ricky Nixon seemed all at sea in last night’s interview on Channel Seven’s Sunday Night program.
Nixon, of all people, should be sufficiently media savvy to handle a combative interviewer.
Yet he seemed unable or unwilling to defuse some tense situations and an argumentative line of questioning during the interview.
Given he spent the best part of twenty years ensuring that the mistakes of the players he managed were presented in the best possible light by the media, I was surprised that Nixon was not a much more polished media performer.
In fact, I’m still unsure exactly why Nixon agreed to be interviewed.
If he hoped that he would get a fair hearing, and that the interview might engender support from the viewing public, then he will be sorely disappointed.
Nixon came across as highly strung, irritable, and was notably evasive when asked some important questions.
Despite recognising his error in going to the hotel room of the young lady who has become known as the “St Kilda Schoolgirl,” Nixon felt that the episode did not warrant the media attention it has been given.
Nixon would have been well aware of the type of questions he was likely to be asked during the interview, yet seemed angry when the hard questions were posed to him.
Maybe he was unhappy that the interviewer wasn’t more sympathetic to his plight. But was there much to be sympathetic about?
By his own admission Nixon seriously erred when he went into the hotel room of the young lady, claiming it was the biggest mistake of his life.
While he denied ever taking drugs or having a sexual relationship with the young woman, Nixon did make some startling admissions which reflect poorly on him.
Nixon admitted to sending “a substantial amount of text messages” to the young lady, as well as commenting to her that he would check his phone later one night when he was “on top of her.”
Attempting to pass off this comment as a joke is, in itself, laughable, and completely indefensible given Nixon is forty-seven (and married) and the woman in question was seventeen at the time.
Given the fact that Nixon has seen players under his management make poor decisions over and over again, he was better placed than almost anyone else in the football industry to recognise a situation which would ultimately lead to no good, and yet he failed to do so.
Not only did Nixon fail to see this, but he put himself in a compromising position by conversing often with her via text message, engaging in sexual banter with her, and going to her hotel room.
Maybe Nixon was truly naïve, and simply didn’t recognise the compromised position that he had placed himself in, and the inevitable media storm which it would create?
Maybe Nixon suffered from the same Superman Complex as some of the players he has managed in the past, and believed that nothing bad would come from his actions, or that he would never get caught.
Neither of these are particularly good excuses.
Putting the allegations of drug-taking and sexual misconduct to one side, Nixon has made plenty of poor decisions in his dealings with the young lady based only on what he confirmed within the interview, yet sadly didn’t seem to be able to fully recognise this.
Just how many poor decisions Nixon made in his dealings with the young lady remains to be seen, but the public interest in his plight and that of the young lady seems set to continue for some time to come.
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May 2nd 2011 @ 7:24am
Justin said | May 2nd 2011 @ 7:24am | Report comment
The guy is a joke and the girl has issues.
May 2nd 2011 @ 7:37am
Al from ctown said | May 2nd 2011 @ 7:37am | Report comment
The girl has issues with players and the afl in general itself… And yep, can’t say she is mentally sound, but he fell into her trap only cause he is a grub like most players too… Good on her.., they get what they get.
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May 2nd 2011 @ 9:27am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Good on her? After all the damage she has caused to the players, you say ‘good on her’? Extraordinary. For the life of me, I can’t see how anybody could be truly sorry for her.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:58am
Aussie Col said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Definitely good on her – a 16 year old girl is duped into bed by 2 players, then dropped as a joke. Remember these men are in their mid to late 20′s, then Mr Nixon (40′s) thought he could join in the fun. How stupid do you think these MEN, & the St Kilda football club are to think a teen girl is calling the shots. Frank Galbally investigated AND supported the girl. The video shows Ricky in his undies – you hear his voice. The Players, the Club and Mr Nixon created the issues – she is just reacting like a now 17 year old school girl behaves. Did you see Alex Fevola comment on the way footballers get into trouble and think they are above the law. They got busted by a girl scorned, but they did the deeds. Do you really think that the players didn’t know how young she was – she opens her mouth and you know immediately. How many girls has this happened to that didn’t have the balls to fight back. Go for it girl – bankrupt the lot of them. Rememeber this isn’t the first incidenet at St Kilda – a leopard doesn’t change its spots.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:13am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:13am | Report comment
“Remember these men are in their mid to late 20′s”
Absolute rubbish.
Armitage was 20 at the time (March 2010), Glibert 22. the girl has conceded she lied about her age and said she was 19. Fact.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:26am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:26am | Report comment
Uh, you do realise they did not break the law. It is not illegal for a man in his 40′s, or guys in their 20′s, to sleep with a 16-year old girl. The players probably did know how young she was, but guess what? It doesn’t matter. They did not break the law.
As for her being duped, please. She needs to take some responsibility herself.
“Go for it girl – bankrupt the lot of them.”
Wow, cheerleading the personal destruction of people you’ve never met, and who have not broken the law. Nice.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:30am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:30am | Report comment
It may not be illegal for married men in their 40s to sleep with 16 year olds. It does reveal a very troubling culture in the AFL however. Is this a sport we really want our kids getting involved with if, not only their peers, but their managers, who might be expected to mentor impressionable young men, are carrying on like this.
The problems certainly seem to run deep.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:44am
Magpie Flag said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:44am | Report comment
It is really sad how people so troubled by the rise and rise of Australian football so pathetically try extrapolate across the whole game in a hopeless attempt to try to beat the game morally where they are failing miserably in convincing people to follow their preferred code.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:46am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:46am | Report comment
Who’s bring other sports into it? I was only talking about the problems of AFL culture. Surely you aren’t going to start yet another, *yawn*, tiresome code war?
May 2nd 2011 @ 12:07pm
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
I think that Nixon’s actions were deplorable, for at the very least they seriously violated the interests of his clients. As for the players, it doesn’t concern me at all.
BTW, Sam, you keep on referring to a culture problem (and even call it ‘dirty, demeaning’ at one point!) However (and this will by my last post on this thread until tonight, so if I don’t respond straight away, that’s the reason), I don’t understand what you are referring to. The AFL is made up of more than 700 young men, many of whom are in their late teens to early 20′s. Some do get into trouble and some embark on self-destructive behaviour. However, what they do is not unique to the AFL; many non-footballers also drink late, engage in risky sex and act like jerks, gamble etc…
The AFL is simply a high profile sample of the community. There are plenty of idiots in the AFL, but their idiocies are neither unique to the AFL nor worse than what plenty of non-footballers get up to.
May 2nd 2011 @ 3:06pm
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
Yes, amazonfan, I do think there is a culture problem. And when I say demeaning, it seems to be demeaning to those outside of the culture of those young men playing football. Whether that involves acts against women, denigrating an area because it has people form a different ethnic background, whatever, it seems to be homogenous and exclusive. And this “closed society” leads to actions such as those you deplore.
I do think it is a broad problem. Just this year, at least 20 names have cropped in the media in relation to incidents.
[I am not going to paste a list in here, because I don't want to make any defamatory imputations, even though I am only repeating what is in the public domain. Googling AFL player incident brings up a comprehensive list.]
How many more are there?
You make a good point when you say that many non-footballers also get into trouble. This is true, and they are roundly denigrated. Yet for some reason, if you denigrate an AFL identity, you are accused of hating the code, hating Australia because it is our indigenous code, or whatever.
Time to open up the closed shop.
May 2nd 2011 @ 12:16pm
jeremy said | May 2nd 2011 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
It is not illegal for a man in his 40′s, or guys in their 20′s, to sleep with a 16-year old girl
While this statement is factually correct, I feel that there’s a societal standard to which he’s being held, and that’s entirely appropriate.
Other *actual* crimes are likely to have committed – the supply of drugs and alcohol, and I would be surprised if the players didn’t also supply her alcohol (albeit difficult to prove) which does influence the situation somewhat.
There are a set of commonly accepted social guidelines that determine how society views sexual relationships between persons of wildly different ages. While it’s not strictly illegal for a fourty-year-old to engage in sexual relationships with sixteen year olds, it’s not considered healthy primarily because there is an imbalance in power and influence. This concept that an older party can be considered to hold undue power or influence in a relationship is referenced in sex-with-minor case law the world over.
If you’d like a practical example of this, head down to your local girl’s school at collection time with a 40-year-old male and try to get you some hot teenage action. The police are likely to be called, as you are likely to be labelled as a ‘predator’.
Unfortunately Nixons actions towards this girl are similar in shape, tone and feel to a predator’s. Unfair? Yes. And for him to defend, which he seems incapable of.
Wow, cheerleading the personal destruction of people you’ve never met, and who have not broken the law.
I’m inclined to agree with premise that there cannot be moral absolutism and that all parties involved have their hands equally dirty. However, Nixon and the other players have privilege, finance, and very large, very profitable organisations on their side.
It’s pretty difficult to not side with the underdog, especially one who’s played the media game (at which Nixon should be an old hand) so very, very well.
May 3rd 2011 @ 6:41am
amazonfan said | May 3rd 2011 @ 6:41am | Report comment
I don’t disagree at all. I completely agree that it was unseemly what Nixon did, and I think that if the girl was more self-confident, she wouldn’t have allowed herself to get into this situation; and as for Nixon, he has a lot of problems of his own. I’m not going to go into the ‘if it was my daughter/sister/niece’ talk, but I don’t think anybody would be happy with a relationship involving a 40+ year-old and a 16 year-old, whether they be related to him or to her.
The reason I focus on the law is that morality is subjective; yet (putting aside the conflict of interest and that he knew she was trouble) the media made him out to be some kind of criminal. While I don’t think that a 40+ year-old sleeping with a 16 year-old is a great idea, I don’t regard it as immoral, and since I don’t love entering moral-based discussions, I prefer to focus on the law.
“And for him to defend, which he seems incapable of.”
I didn’t watch the interview (except a bit on AFL Classified), and he clearly should not have done it. Even Craig Hutchinson questioned his decision!
“It’s pretty difficult to not side with the underdog, especially one who’s played the media game (at which Nixon should be an old hand) so very, very well.”
The problem is that as underdogs go, she is incredibly unattractive, and to quote Redb, a ‘pathological liar and trouble with a capital T.’
The other problem I have is that if the players and Nixon weren’t famous, it wouldn’t be on the front page of newspapers. What the players did wasn’t unusual, a lot of guys are jerks, and Nixon’s behaviour also wasn’t unusual. Quite a few married 40+ year-old men get involved with much younger women (granted, most are probably not teenagers), and while the details were unusual, the fact that he didn’t handle it well isn’t uncommon. The only reason we even know about it is that the players and Nixon are well known, and personally, I don’t particularly enjoy ‘scorned lover’ revenge tales.
May 2nd 2011 @ 1:11pm
damos_x said | May 2nd 2011 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
A 16 year old is a minor my friend & yes it is very much illegal. Someone posted that she in fact lied about her age & is 19, which makes her an adult, but by all accounts the police have dealt with the situation in a manner which suggests that at the time she was in fact a minor.
May 2nd 2011 @ 4:10pm
damos_x said | May 2nd 2011 @ 4:10pm | Report comment
I apologise amazonfan, i looked it up & it is in fact legal to have consensual sex with a 16 or 17 year old in Victoria regardless of your age as long as you are not a guardian or hold a position of responsibility to that person. So just to be clear, if you are an adult you can have sex with a child as long as you have no responsibility to them , which seems implicit by the fact that you are having sex with a child. my apologies though for saying you were wrong.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:04am
apaway said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Amazonfan
I think it will transpire that Ricky Nixon’s actions caused the players far more damage than the girl’s. And there is not a bone in my body that feels sorry for any of the players or Nixon. They got owned.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:28am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:28am | Report comment
“I think it will transpire that Ricky Nixon’s actions caused the players far more damage than the girl’s. ”
His actions certainly caused the players enormous damage. I actually addressed that in a post below: ‘That said, he should never have done what he did. The fact that he even text messaged a girl that had caused some of his clients massive problems not only violates the interests of his clients, but shows that he can not be trusted. If he hadn’t been banned, I doubt that many players would have kept him on.’
“And there is not a bone in my body that feels sorry for any of the players or Nixon. They got owned.”
Oh please, this isn’t the movies. This ‘owned’ talk IMO is completely immature.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:45am
apaway said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:45am | Report comment
Sorry if you think it’s immature but I couldn’t think of a better word. How would you describe it? Conned? Duped? Substitute whatever word you like but you have to admit that at the very least the players and Nixon made repeated lapses in judgement that boggle the mind, and the girl exploited those lapses for all they were worth and have collectively made them all look very dumb.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:47am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:47am | Report comment
I don’t deny that “the players and Nixon made repeated lapses in judgement that boggle the mind, and the girl exploited those lapses for all they were worth and have collectively made them all look very dumb” (well, at least Nixon), however I’m not going to cheer her on as if this was ‘Revenge of the School Girl.’
May 2nd 2011 @ 1:09pm
damos_x said | May 2nd 2011 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
Damage !!?? she is a minor & adults are supposed to be aware of their responsibilities when dealing with minors, that’s why we have statutory rape for example, so that even if a minor is complicit in their dealings with an adult the adult has a responsibility to know better.
May 2nd 2011 @ 4:13pm
damos_x said | May 2nd 2011 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
see my most recent post for apology on the legal status of having sex with children in Victoria, if i have offended anyone other than amazonfan ( who may or may not have been offended) in believing wrongfully that adults having sex with children was illegal then please let me know & i will apologise forthwith.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:28am
Richard said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:28am | Report comment
She is a self centred manipulative stupid girl. He is a menopausal, randy, stupid old fart. They deserve each other
May 2nd 2011 @ 8:07am
Willy said | May 2nd 2011 @ 8:07am | Report comment
C’mon everyone – it really is time to move on from this now.
May 2nd 2011 @ 8:52am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 8:52am | Report comment
I don’t know. This sport clearly has a culture problem, and might just think it is invincible with the new rivers of gold that are going to be flowing. I think it’s good that the media fully aerates this sport’s problems. Genuine openness and transparency is the only way to fix such insidious problems.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:11am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:11am | Report comment
All high profile and successful sports have ‘bad’ boys.
Nixon is a player-manager a group of folk who would sell their Grandmother. I dont think the AFL has a mortgage on immoral player-managers.
Nixon is a fool, his ban should be increased to life.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:24am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:24am | Report comment
I think that is overly harsh. A two-year ban in this situation is perfectly appropriate; only those who absolutely damage the integrity of the sport (such as match-fixers) should IMO be given life bans.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:39am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:39am | Report comment
I couldn’t agree with you more, Redb. The AFL’s culture problem is sometimes replicated in other successful sports.It’s time that journalists stopped being cheerleaders and started to be journalists. With some accountability we might just be able to change this dirty, demeaning culture.
Sadly, “contra” deals perpetuate this cheerleading from the journalists.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:23am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Your not quite seeing the point, the AFL per se does not have a culture problem anymore than other high profile and very popular sports.
Given the issues in the NFL, EPL, it seems the dominant sports have the most perceived issues becuase they are high profile in the first place.
As for your comments on contra and cheerleading journalists you seem to be going off on a tangent.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:35am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Again, spot on there, Redb. High profile competitions like the AFL, NFL and EPL do attract the sort of person how has some of these problems, thus creating to the culture that we rightly want to see stamped out. Unfortunately, it is very hard do so without accurate reporting of the commonplace, unsavourary practices. Contra deals lead to a suppression of negative news. Like me, I am sure you don’t want to see corporate censorship of the deep problems within a sporting culture for mere PR purposes. These are people’s lives we are talking about here.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:42am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:42am | Report comment
That’s why i’d like to see News Ltd 50% owner of the NRL removed from the sporting landscape.
I beleive the Daily Telegraph has even commented it has a conflict of interest at times when reporting NRL scandals. News Ltd also has its fingers in the Foxtel pie.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:51am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Absolutely. The conflicts of interest are simply way too enormous. This is where the AFL deal is treading on thin ice. The relationship between Foxtel (with an enormous investment in the AFL now) and News Limited (with something like 80% of the metropolitan dailies) means that the sort of fearless reporting that exposes the lowlives might not happen.
That said, I am confident that the AFL have clauses in their rights deal ensuring the editorial independence of the rights holders. Not doing so would only prolong the the AFL’s culture problem instead of trying to fix it.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:00am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The Herald Sun has dined out on the Nixon, Fevola, St Kilda shcoolgirl sagas over months. They have sensationalised every aspect and even contributed with surveillance equipment.
Your comments are a total misread of the real situation.
Footballers are in the spotlight like never before andin fact are forced by their clubs to make ridiculous public apologies over relatively minor incidents. Eg; Jack Reiwoldt, Melb player (forget his name)
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:08am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:08am | Report comment
In this specific incident, you are indeed correct. Very high profile coverage, and great to see AFL culture being outed.
More generally, however, were it not for independents (non-rights holders) like the ABC we would never have had the excellent coverage of AFL group sex culture on Four Corners.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2004/s1100551.htm
Independent media outlets, and sites like The Roar, thankfully mean that we can have a multiplicity of voices, no matter how concentrated the mainstream media is.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:16am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Now the agenda appears
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:17am
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:17am | Report comment
What agenda’s that? I thought I made it apparent from above that “the sport (AFL) clearly has a culture problem”.
And it certainly does.
Still, I am glad that you and I are agreed that it needs to be cleaned up, even if we might differ on a few minor details.
Unless you think that my agenda is to support media diversity. Which, as should be evident from the above, it is!
May 2nd 2011 @ 3:19pm
Sherrin-Burley-Faulkner said | May 2nd 2011 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Dont panic Sam, eventually there will be an Australian football club in Atherton.
May 2nd 2011 @ 3:56pm
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
Sam,
Are you from Atherton as in Atherton Tablelands?
Will be there tommorrow.
May 2nd 2011 @ 8:24pm
Brendan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
Redb says “I beleive (Sic) the Daily Telegraph has even commented it has a conflict of interest at times when reporting NRL scandals.”
If there is a conflict of interest it’s because there is an appetite for trashy NRL media stories. Even if that was the case they have done a real job on the NRL in recent years so much so that only today News Ltd has had to apologise to an NRL player for defaming him.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/apology-to-brett-stewart/story-e6frep5o-1226047831821
Bring back investigative journalists I say!! I’m personally sick of the trashy sensationalistic reporting that fills pages and pages of media news.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:58pm
Sam el Perro said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:58pm | Report comment
@Redb: One and the same Atherton.
May 5th 2011 @ 12:12pm
Sam el Perro said | May 5th 2011 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
This, in The Australian today:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/ricky-nixon-texts-and-video-involving-kim-duthie-are-genuine-report-finds/story-e6freooo-1226050365173
A summary of points appears near the bottom of the story:
The report’s findings state Nixon:
* Disadvantaged his clients by taking advantage of a person that had been in conflict with them;
* Used his position of power to take advantage of a vulnerable person;
* Entered into personal relationship with this person;
* Had a sexual relationship with this person;
* Used illicit drugs with this person; and,
* Engaged in threatening conduct.
May 2nd 2011 @ 8:23am
Chris said | May 2nd 2011 @ 8:23am | Report comment
As usual nobody comes out of these situations looking good. It’s fundamentally the same problem as Brendan Fevola – nobody takes full responsibility for their own actions.
Perhaps there should be a ban on clubs contacting players until a certain age? That way they a chance of learning some life skills before being swallowed up by the AFL machine.
Not sure what the answer is for Ricky Nixon is though. Maybe he’d been in the system for so long his mindset has taken on that of a player – “it’s not my fault”.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:01am
gail said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:01am | Report comment
He appeared to me that he was covering up and lying , he called back the interviewer the next day , to say he wasnt in a good head space . He looked so guilty he is really giving the girl more fuel saying shes lying , when its obvious he is. She has made a fool of him once and would gladly do it again
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:07am
sheek said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Michael,
Is this a serious question? Ricky Nixon is cunning like a rat, but he’s also an idiot.
Nixon is God’s inspiration to all the imbeciles in the world that they too can make a living & attain wealth & notoriety…..
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:08am
Jess said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Quote “Putting the allegations of drug-taking and sexual misconduct to one side” thats right, you have to put them aside because there is no proof and only illegally made tapings etc that are not admissable in a court of law and a self confessed Pathological Lier as a witness.
Frankly the only organisations that should not of picked up the ball in the first place was the Media.. Instead of following journalists with agenda’s and vendetta’s lets wait to the real Police do there job. They are a bit more experienced in dealing wit these things.
May 2nd 2011 @ 9:33am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Regarding the police, it should be noted that they are only interested in the alleged drug-taking.
The article:
“Attempting to pass off this comment as a joke is, in itself, laughable, and completely indefensible given Nixon is forty-seven (and married) and the woman in question was seventeen at the time.”
The girl was legally capable of giving consent, their age difference is irrelevant, and his marital status is surely nobody’s business. Unlike Craig Hutchinson, if you take away his occupation, I think his behaviour was perfectly defensible.
That said, he should never have done what he did. The fact that he even text messaged a girl that had caused some of his clients massive problems not only violates the interests of his clients, but shows that he can not be trusted. If he hadn’t been banned, I doubt that many players would have kept him on.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:07am
Aussie Col said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:07am | Report comment
The age difference isnot irrelevent. Certainly as a 16 year old can consent to sex, but she didn’t consent to be treated like a joke and passed between players and managers. She thought she was making friends not being part of a footy cluib scorecard. These Players were at least 8 YEARS older, they PRETENDED they thought she was older (how much I say – she speaks and you know she is young) – Mr Nixon is 30 YEARS her senior. She loses out on life experience to these guys, by heaps. Hope your 16 year old daughter, neice, friend, never has to go through being lied to by MEN just to jump her. And didn’t they buy her drinks – isn’t that a bit illegal!!!!!!!
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:23am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:23am | Report comment
“The age difference is not irrelevent.”
Yes, it is. If a person is over 16, they can sleep with anyone, as long as the other person is not in a position of authority.
“Certainly as a 16 year old can consent to sex, but she didn’t consent to be treated like a joke and passed between players and managers.”
Uh, that is not what happened. There was no passing around between ‘players and managers.’ Between players, maybe, however she consented. As for treating her like a joke, the players may be jerks, but that isn’t a crime.
“These Players were at least 8 YEARS older,”
Irrelevant. You can put it in capital letters for emphasis, but that does not change the fact that it is not illegal what they did.
” they PRETENDED they thought she was older (how much I say – she speaks and you know she is young) ”
Again, irrelevant. It may come across as distasteful to some, but the law still wasn’t broken.
“– Mr Nixon is 30 YEARS her senior.”
Doesn’t matter if he is 50 years her senior.
“She loses out on life experience to these guys, by heaps.”
Yes, and one could argue that the players should have known better, however they are not the first 20+ year-olds to sleep with 16 year-olds. That doesn’t make it right (or wrong), however what they did wasn’t particularly unusual.
“Hope your 16 year old daughter, neice, friend, never has to go through being lied to by MEN just to jump her.”
Oh please. If my 16-year-old niece (a WOMAN under the age of consent) had legal, consensual sex with legal consenting partners, I would at least hope she would take some responsibility. This whole ‘lied to by Men just to jump her’ thing is ridiculous. Not only does the girl have to take responsibility, but acting like a jerk is not against the law.
“And didn’t they buy her drinks – isn’t that a bit illegal!!!!!!”
I think Nixon may have allegedly gotten her drugs, which was being investigated by the police. The players have not been investigated.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:20am
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Nixon’s actions are indefensible IMO.
This is old ground but for the life of me I cant understand why he engaged with the girl on any level given he knew more than most she is a pathological liar and trouble with a capital T.
No excuses, Nixons reputaton is tarnished forever and deservedly so.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:36am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:36am | Report comment
I agree. But only on the basis that he was a manager getting involved with a girl who had caused his clients enormous problems (and who is a ‘a pathological liar and trouble with a capital T’). If it was just some random girl, I think it would be defensible.
May 2nd 2011 @ 12:37pm
Redb said | May 2nd 2011 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Well its still morally questionable given the age difference, but Nixon knew the situation.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:01am
Jazza said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:01am | Report comment
I feel sorry for his wife believing his lies.”I cant explain why I was in my undies on her bed”………What does that mean?
I’m a grown man, you cant say that and expect me to swallow it? Who the hell do you think you’re trying to fool? I can’t believe the interviewer didn’t offer the lie detector to him like they did to the girl.Now that would have really set the cat amongst the pidgeons! Great journalism moron.
May 2nd 2011 @ 10:19am
Bill said | May 2nd 2011 @ 10:19am | Report comment
“innocent, naive or foolish?”. Not really. How about “arrogant “.
Enough, Ricky Boy. Everyone knows what you’ve been up to. The problem isn’t so much your behaviour but the lies afterwards. Take your two year holiday under the terms of the face saving agreement organised with your AFL mates. Then you can come back and be interviewed on TV, telling us about your “journey”, your “overcoming adversity”, your new charity for wayward girls and your new autobiography, “Between The Lines”, written by a clapped-out journo/drinking buddy from the Herald Sun.
The 17 year old high school drop-out gotcha, Ricky. Cop it on the chin.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:06am
Swampy said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:06am | Report comment
I,m with Bill. Cheers to the clapped-out journo/drinking buddy from the Herald Sun. May Murdocks poisonous little paper be the recipient of this years golden turd award for the smelliest little rag since the Truth.
Nixon or Demetriou?
“——- came across as highly strung, irritable, and was notably evasive when asked some important questions.
——- would have been well aware of the type of questions he was likely to be asked during the interview, yet seemed angry when the hard questions were posed to him”
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:04am
Al from ctown said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Yes amazonfan… Good on her.. These players and ppl associated walk around like they are better than the average bloke, well guess what, just cause you can play footy doesn’t mean your not a dick. And when your a dick then you get what comes to you in the real world… So for once someone got it… And I don’t feel sorry for her… She is clearly a skank.. But obviously a skank that has out smarted a player manager… Hence the good on her. Lol
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May 2nd 2011 @ 11:13am
Swampy said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Al. Please drop the skank. A nasty word not befitting a fine gentleman such as yourself.
May 2nd 2011 @ 11:29am
amazonfan said | May 2nd 2011 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Whether they are a dick nor not, and that is subjective, does not mean they deserved to be treated the way they were.