AFL financial reports highlight wealth divide
By The_Wookie, 13 Jan 2012 The_Wookie is a Roar Guru
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Its finance reporting season for AFL clubs and the annual reports are in for all but St Kilda, and so we gain an excellent snap shot of the current economic climate amongst Victorian clubs.
We can’t produce the same across non-Victorian clubs due to the way those clubs are operated. Adelaide, Port and Brisbane (and I believe Sydney) do produce individual annual reports, but the WA clubs, and the new boys on the Gold Coast certainly dont at this time. Further, St Kilda haven’t supplied an annual report yet.
Memberships were up across Melbourne, with 25,000 members added to the 2010 tally taking numbers to 425,756. Seven out of ten Victorian clubs recorded increases, with Collingwood taking out top spot with an increase of more than 17,000.
At the bottom of the ladder, the Saints dropped more than 6,000 members. Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton, Essendon and Richmond round out the top five clubs for membership – all with more than 40,000 members.
To attendances, and these were also up across Melbourne with 25,000 more people going through the gates than in 2010 and total attendances in Melbourne and Geelong exceeding 4.3 million.
The big movers in 2011 were Richmond, Carlton and Essendon recording net gate increase of more than 50,000 attendees.
Collingwood still reigned supreme almost 90,000 clear of the Blues in second place. Bringing up the rear Melbourne dropped 70,000 at home, but the spoon goes to the Bulldogs and North, both under 300,000 attendees.
To revenue, and its Collingwood and daylight. The Pies turning over 75 million this year, more than 24 million clear of the second-placed Bombers. Hawthorn and Geelong round out the top 4 there.
North Melbourne haplessly bring up the rear on 26 million, 12 million below the league average (38 million for vic clubs). Victorian clubs raised more than $400 million in revenue in 2011.
Its been widely reported than nine AFL clubs have made a loss this year, but in terms of operations only two Melbourne clubs (North and St Kilda lost money). Four clubs made profits of more than a million dollars. (Collingwood made more than $2 million).
When write offs and depreciation are factored in, three clubs made a loss, including Hawthorn (albeit narrowly). The addition of AFL and Australian Sporting Foundation Grants almost certainly means two more clubs made a loss when these are taken out.
Total profit for the Melbourne clubs is more than $7 million, and more than $12 million after consolidation.
In marketing and sponsorship revenue, Collingwood remain top earning $22 million, Richmond, Essendon and Geelong on around $15 million.
Melbourne, North Melbourne and the Bulldogs fall way down on $8 million each. More than $123 million in sponsorship was raised in Melbourne across 10 clubs with an average of more than 12 million.
Revenue from Membership and gate receipts topped $100 million, Collingwood clear winners as expected with more than $16 million from members alone. Geelong, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon rounding out the top end, while North struggled with less than $6 million. The league average in Melbourne was over 10 million.
Gaming revenue is a tricky one, and most clubs include this with their social club takings – including hospitality and beverages. Most clubs in Melbourne average $3-4 million in gaming revenue.
Ironically, the biggest gaming beneficiary is Brisbane taking more than $12 million from pokies in 2011. North has no gaming revenue at all.
Melbourne clubs spent more than 170 million on their football departments in 2011, and even North managed to spend 15 million on theirs in 2011. Collingwood way out in front at 19 million, Geelong, Essendon and Carlton not far behind.
Theres a lot of positives in the annual reports for clubs. Some have debts, but they appear to be entirely manageable, and for the foreseeable future the clubs finances are backed by the AFL.
North and the Bulldogs remain causes for concern, they just appear to have no strong support either in the crowd or corporate sectors. As long as this remains the case, their future will be called into question by the waiting vultures, equalisation fund be damned.
On the flip side, that Collingwood benefits from the fixture more than any other club cannot really be a question any more.
Not that it’s Collingwoods fault – every club wants to play them and theres only a certain number of AFL games that melbourne clubs can play interstate, for which the Pies generally do meet the average.
Hawthorn continues to be a financial powerhouse, with a reported $20 million sitting in the bank, developments in Tasmania and New Zealand, and a feisty board.
I don’t think theres any coincidence that guys like Eddie McGuire and Jeff Kennett are – or were in Jeff’s case – at the helms of two of Australias most prosperous football clubs.
Carlton, Essendon and Richmond are begining to perk up again, and this is reflected in their memberships and astonishing increases in crowds.
Essendon and Carlton in particular will be wondering if they can the MCG for home matches when their current deals expire. Carlton are already selling out Docklands for matches against non victorian clubs.
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January 14th 2012 @ 4:33pm
The Cattery said | January 14th 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
This is an interesting story in the Age from a couple of days ago, quoting the famous Chinese dancer, Li Cunxin.
He says China’s “great potential market” for Australian Football.
”The basketball game is very weak and the standard is very low. Soccer is also very average,” said Cunxin, who quickly became an AFL convert after he moved to Melbourne 16 years ago.
Cunxin was quoted at the 15th anniversay dinner of the AIS/AFL Academy.
The AFL has already invested $1.5 million in building purpose build oval in Tianjin, and are planning to hold regular draft combines there.
January 14th 2012 @ 4:44pm
Titus said | January 14th 2012 @ 4:44pm | Report comment
Haha……Yes TC. A story in the Age about a Chinese man living in Melbourne saying at an AFL dinner that AFL could be massive in China.
Soccer is weak is it? You do realise they just signed Nicholas Anelka at Shanghai don’t you? and were chasing Drogba? The amount of money coming in to Chinese Football is extraordinary. Very exciting to think of the size the ACL will become with China, Japan, Korea and Australia all involved.
January 14th 2012 @ 5:12pm
The Cattery said | January 14th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
Titus
it’s not my quote, this is the celebrated Chinese dancer, Li Cunxin, who moved to Melbourne 16 years ago – it’s his personal view.
I think he is right when he says the Chinese do not universally follow one sport.
Yes, I’m aware that the Chinese clubs offer big money, as do the Gulf states, but at the end of the day, their clubs and national teams are rubbish in world terms.
January 14th 2012 @ 11:29pm
The Cattery said | January 14th 2012 @ 11:29pm | Report comment
As at mid-January, with 2 months to go till the start of the footy season, here are the latest membership figures for 2012:
Collingwood 49,334
Hawthorn 42,741
West Coast 42,271
Essendon 32,602
Geelong 26,917
Richmond 26,284
Carlton 25,056
Adelaide 23,209
Melbourne 21,494
Western Bulldogs 18,989
North Melbourne 18,130
Port Adelaide 17,070
St Kilda 14,390
Sydney 13,871
Brisbane 11,870
Gold Coast 8,440
GWS 4,073
Fremantle N/A
January 16th 2012 @ 1:10am
Victer said | January 16th 2012 @ 1:10am | Report comment
Impressive numbers which also show an impressive divide. This will show up on the field with a high scoring game such as AFL.
January 15th 2012 @ 12:33am
Veni, Vedi, Sherrin Calcitravi said | January 15th 2012 @ 12:33am | Report comment
Might be an interesting comparison to check it against the numbers for the same period last year..
Jan 2012 Jan 2011 approx (taken from different forum) – 2011 final tally
Collingwood 49,334 43,000 – 71,271
Hawthorn 42,741 40,000 – 56,224
West Coast 42,271 44,000 – 54,745
Essendon 32,602 32,000 – 50,271
Geelong 26,917 23,000 – 39,343
Richmond 26,284 24,000 – 40,184
Carlton 25,056 22,000 – 43,791
Adelaide 23,209 n/a – 44,719
Melbourne 21,494 20,000 – 36,937
Western Bulldogs 18,989 19,000 – 32,125
North Melbourne 18,130 14,000 – 30,202
Port Adelaide 17,070 16,000 – 36,624
St Kilda 14,390 26,000 – 39,276
Sydney 13,871 n/a – 27,106
Brisbane 11,870 13,000 – 22,163
Gold Coast 8,440 10,000 – 11,141
GWS 4,073 n/a (12,165 foundation m’ships)
Fremantle N/A 30,000 – 42,762
January 18th 2012 @ 1:57pm
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 1:57pm | Report comment
Patiently waiting for the AFL-haters to attack these membership figures. Of course membership is not part of the so-called traditional sporting culture of NSW & Qld.
January 18th 2012 @ 2:18pm
The Cattery said | January 18th 2012 @ 2:18pm | Report comment
Tony
I would hope that doesn’t happen.
I would prefer to extend an olive branch to our Northern cousins and explain to them that this great culture we have of buying memberships is good for sport generally, and good for the nation, after all, it’s expenditure that remains 100% within the nation, so the economy benefits, and everyone is happy.
I hope they understand.
January 18th 2012 @ 5:36pm
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 5:36pm | Report comment
A-league “clubs” have a membership of 1…….their owners. So do half the NRL “clubs”. Have to be a real culture change if they are ever to be really Australian Football clubs.
January 16th 2012 @ 2:39pm
TW said | January 16th 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
The on and off funding for the Bellerive Cricket Ground upgrade to the capacity and facilities in Hobart continues. The funding is now on courtesy the Federal Govt but not so far – The Tassie Govt.
The catalyst is the upcoming World Cricket Cup it seems. The side beneficiaries appears to be AFL Tasmania who will move their HQ there and the AFL North Melbourne Kangaroos.
The Kangas 3 year contract runs from 2012 -2014 at the ground. The current AFL TV contract runs from 2012 -2016 . Will the Hobart contract if renewed save the Kangas after 2016.
Link — http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2012/01/16/292761_most-popular-stories.html
January 16th 2012 @ 5:07pm
Redb said | January 16th 2012 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
Great to see. This will benefit cricket as well. The terrific ‘red ball’ symbiotic relationship continues.
January 16th 2012 @ 6:01pm
JVGO said | January 16th 2012 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
Yes, if you’re an AFL fan in the Southern states you get to support the NSW cricket team dressed in green and gold once a year.
January 17th 2012 @ 7:29am
Redb said | January 17th 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Do you ever leave your enclave?
The Australian cricket team has players from States other than NSW. Talk about delusional.
January 16th 2012 @ 5:28pm
The Cattery said | January 16th 2012 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
Good for Tassie cricket and football fans.
We can see in the not to distant future, North matching the quantum of Hawthorn’s games in Tassie – at a minimum.
January 16th 2012 @ 7:09pm
JVGO said | January 16th 2012 @ 7:09pm | Report comment
Well, these motherhood type statements are so typically misleading. In a state like Tasmania where there are in effect only two sports, AFL and Cricket, and their only professional sporting team at this stage is the State Cricket team, if the development has a greater benefit for the AFL then it does for cricket, then cricket is in effect a loser.
AFL will always be the easier option in the Southern states because they don’t have to compete with NSW and Qld boys the way they do in cricket for entry into the AFL.
tassie cricket seems to punch above its weight in cricket (unlike Vic) maybe because Cricket has had that professional monopoly in the state. If that monopoly is eroded you’d expect cricket to suffer.
January 16th 2012 @ 8:44pm
The Cattery said | January 16th 2012 @ 8:44pm | Report comment
Well, at one point Tassie was supporting two NBL teams. I’m not sure if they still exist.
Don’t forget that they have the Hurricanes who have been selling out Bellerive.
There was a Tassie bid for an A-League license, and the FFA decided to give it to a non-existent West Sydney bid.
When you break things down, and examine closely, you will discover two things:
1. it’s not necessarily the AFL’s fault; and
2. ultimately, it’s up to the people of Tasmania to collectively decide what they choose to follow.
January 16th 2012 @ 9:30pm
Tony said | January 16th 2012 @ 9:30pm | Report comment
Cattery…..everything is the AFL’s fault. It is responsible for soccer administration being so bad. It’s that AFL stooge who’s their CEO. Nit to forget Andrew Demetriou. He single-handedly destroyed the FFA WC bid. He is is so powerful that he should be paid double what he gets now. And now the AFL is invading Western Sydney – how will soccer kids resist those free Auskick packs? And all those footy supporters down south call the Aussie game football, confusing all the poor immigrants who think they mean soccer. And all that money they are spending on so many social/integration programmes is just a subtle way of stealing all the soccer fans away to what is, after all, only an Australian game. Soccer only gets $8 mill from the fed government. It is all so unfair!
January 16th 2012 @ 10:50pm
ItsCalledFootball said | January 16th 2012 @ 10:50pm | Report comment
Well said Tony.
January 17th 2012 @ 12:44am
JVGO said | January 17th 2012 @ 12:44am | Report comment
Look, I don’t have a problem with Tasmanians choosing AFL in preference to cricket. Aussie Rules is their heritage as much as anything else. I’m sure they would be overjoyed to have their own AFL side (unlike the people of Sydney for instance). And good on them. If the AFL would just give them one.
But these motherhood statements about the symbiosis of cricket and AFL and about the indigenous game in general are simply laughable and nauseating and downright misleading. Victorian cricket and its contribution to the national team is a prima facie case against this piffle. In fact James Pattinson looks like just about the second best talent to emerge from Victoria in the last 40 years. The endless unthinking flag waving from the whole AFL is better brigade is just ridiculous.
As I say is just appears easier for Vic boys to go to the AFL because they don’t have to compete against NSW kids as they do in cricket, it is a smaller pool of talent. And thrre seems a greater crossover pf athletes between AFL and cricket as compared with the rugby codes.
January 17th 2012 @ 5:48am
The_Wookie said | January 17th 2012 @ 5:48am | Report comment
its got nothing to do with their being less than 20 average paying jobs as opposed to more than 400 pretty good paying jobs at the elite level in Victoria, and AFL jobs turnover fairly regurlarly. If that fails you can try your hand at the VFL and still do ok.
The Bellerive funding is primarily for the CRICKET World Cup, but like most stadiums in this country, it will be the AFL that makes the stadium profitable.
Since apparently all you have to do to make the Australian Cricket team is to know how to spell “Cricket” if you are from NSW its fairly apparent to us why theres this huge choice. Seriously, we’ve all watched Victorian players fail to get a decent shot at the big time while some no name flails away for months without making runs. (My favorite though is still pulling Gavin Robertson out of DISTRICT cricket to go on a Tour some years back, or Phil Emery being appointed keeper to replace an injured healy when Emery was like a thousand years old, or Mark Taylor being out of form for damn near 2 years before equalling Bradmans record on a wicket so docile I could have taken my dead grandma out there weekend at bernies style and made the same). You pick 1 test player and neglect to mention the guys who werent given a decent run.
Second best vic cricket talent in 40 years? Im assuming you rate Warne ahead, as you should. Id reckon guys like Dean Jones, Merv Hughes, Paul Reiffel, Damien Fleming and might have a thing or two to say about Pattinson being rated ahead of them at this stage of his career.
He talks about the symbiosis no doubt due to the general nature of the relationship where the Australian Football and cricket work together to ensure the SCG, MCG, GABBA, and soon Adelaide, Perth and Bellerive Ovals suit both their purposes for the benefit of more than either could on their own. World Cups and things are all very well, but it will be the AFL that brings the people year in, year out. That close relationship is embodied in the MCG.
And who said AFL is better? Better than what?
January 17th 2012 @ 7:27am
Redb said | January 17th 2012 @ 7:27am | Report comment
I think you need a good shoulder to cry on.
NSW hardly makes up the bulk of the cricket team. Fast bowlers are typically bigger and more likely to be in AFL, yet Peter Siddle, James Pattinson, Ben Hilfenhaus are all in cricket.
January 17th 2012 @ 8:53am
The Cattery said | January 17th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
As Paul Roos says: let the kids decide.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-back-paul-roos-led-coaching-academy/story-e6frexwr-1226243950750
“At the age of 12 and 13 we want kids to continue to play rugby league rugby union and soccer. Generally involvement in AFL football improves the boys’ skills in their No. 1 code.
“It’s not till the age of 16 they need to make a choice. Let the kids make the decision.” Roos said.
Now that both the Swans and Giants have their own academies and the AFL continues to expose the game of Australian Football to more kids in NSW, there’s more choice for kids, who are more than capable of making a choice.
It’s only at the age or 16 or so that they need to decide what they want to focus on (if they are interested in a professional career).
Then it becomes a matter for the individual, weighing lost of different factors and variables, and each kid will put a different weight on these criteria.
We don’t live in North Korea – in Australia, kids can decide.
January 17th 2012 @ 11:43am
JVGO said | January 17th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Talking about motherhood statements. ‘Red ball’ symbiosis is pretty laughable. It seems NSW dominates for a variety of reasons and AFL is obviously one of them.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/baggy-blues-reflect-states-supremacy-at-national-level-20111030-1mqgw.html
But ‘let the kids decide’ just about takes the cake Cattery. Everyone knows the kids will take the easy option of the Happy meal with the toy. And AFL is the easy option in Australian sports.
Of course talented sportsmen generally have to choose. Steve Waugh chose cricket over soccer, Glen McGrath chose cricket over basketball, Dan Christian chose cricket over RL, and Warnie only chose cricket after he failed apparently with his first option of AFL. And there are hence plenty of people across all the international sports in the northern states that are concerned about the AFL’s intentions and the impact of its 200 milliion of toys and extras it can offer the kids.
There are even people in AFL loving Tassie (that I’m sure would love their own AFL side but are forced instead to prop a couple of traditional Melbourne clubs) that are concerned enough about the AFL’s expansion to arrange a parliamentary enquiry into the policy (apparently), an enquiry that the AFL misled (apparently) regarding their participation numbers in Western Sydney. But everyone in Vic knows of course that Western Sydney starts at the Anzac Bridge and includes the entire rest of the state.
It’s amazing what you learn on the Roar.
January 17th 2012 @ 2:58pm
The Cattery said | January 17th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
At the end of the day, it’s not for Parliament to decide where the AFL should choose to expand the game, investing its own resources.
As we have said many times before, that’s for the likes of North Korea, not Australia.
And you express concern about kids choosing the McDonalds toys. That’s simplistic. Yes, six year old kids might do so, but the AFL’s participation levels at 6 and 7 year old stage is very low, it generally picks up around 10, 11 and 12 year old, which fits in with what Paul Roos is saying – kids can come to aussie rules at the age of 12 and 13, no problem at all, they can keep playing whatever sport it is that they are playing, and they don’t need to make a decision to specialise until they are 16 (if they are interested in a professional career, the draft camps will tell them whether they have the raw ingredients to have a shot at it).
As you said, Warney picked cricket over footy (his first preference), and we are all thankful that he did. These things work out in mysterious ways, don’t pre-judge the result.
Also, you should welcome the AFL’s push to look for talent off-shore – the more talent we find off-shore, the more elite athletes we leave in Australian for other sports.
January 18th 2012 @ 4:08am
JVGO said | January 18th 2012 @ 4:08am | Report comment
I’d love for the AFL to spend the 200 million off shore rather than in Sydney, I’m all for it. If the AFL can find some virgin ground and implant itself somewhere overseas i’m right behind it. In fact I’d be proud. China, Saudi Arabia, Namibia, anywhere really. Unfortunately we all know it’s a pipe dream C.
In the meantime it would be great if the AFL didn’t make itself so loathed in half its own country. The fact is that the traditional sporting cultures of NSW and Qld is just as important and valid as anything you have going down south C. And we have every right to stick up for it.
January 18th 2012 @ 5:58am
The_Wookie said | January 18th 2012 @ 5:58am | Report comment
Well they have 200 million and would rather shore up the home country first. Every other code would do the same thing if they had the money – like the NRL wont expand if they get the big bucks they hope for, like the FFA hasnt already tried.
Once again though, its the AFLs fault for 1)actually having a plan and 2)being able to afford it.
January 18th 2012 @ 7:20am
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 7:20am | Report comment
But Wookie, what about the “traditional sporting cultures of NSW & Qld”?
(says he, laughing thru his cornflakes)
January 18th 2012 @ 7:38am
The_Wookie said | January 18th 2012 @ 7:38am | Report comment
See I know your having a lend, but the NRL, ARU and even the HAL will survive the AFL and GWS. What the AFL is doing is showing it level of commitment not just to GWS but to the code of Australian Football by putting money where its mouth is. Ive no doubt the NRL will do the same when its next tv deal is done, and if the FFA can get a decent deal it will do the same.
January 24th 2012 @ 10:53am
JVGO said | January 24th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Wookie , it is not the AFL’s money. The money is entirely leveraged from the virtual monopoly AFL enjoys in the southern states and it is hence the supporters in the traditional heartlands money paid for by memberships, sponsorship, subscriptions and on their weekly trip to Woollies.
For some reason these AFL supporters would prefer to see Australia emasculated as an international sporting force and the rest of Australia to suffer the same pointless obsession with a suburban football comp that Melbourne does. I cannot see why anyone thinks this is a good outcome, particularly supporters of the majority of traditional AFL clubs who have no chance of sighting a premiership in the next 50 years.
January 18th 2012 @ 10:10am
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
But Wookie, the AFL-haters tell us that GWS is going to kidnap all their children, decimate our national sporting teams & destroy the traditional sporting culture of NSW (sic)
January 17th 2012 @ 7:34am
Redb said | January 17th 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
It’s a great partnership that can only benefit both games.
The Tasmanian North/South divide gets a team each in effect. More football in Tasmania is a stepping stone to their own team down the track. They are the next cab off the rank either as a relocation or green field.
January 17th 2012 @ 7:50am
BigAl said | January 17th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
Having Hawthorn playing out of north Tassie and North Melbourne playing out of the south could well lead to some great games between them.
What with the long running north/south divide backed with the historic clashes between the Hawks and Kangaroos in the the 70′s, these games have real potential to generate huge interest in Tassie.
I have always been a bit dubious of Tasmania’s ability to support an AFL team – let alone two, but it will be very interesting to see just how these games pan out
January 17th 2012 @ 2:42pm
TW said | January 17th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
I think the good people of Tasmania may realise that currently their “State” is not in a position to operate a fully fledged AFL team.
However perhaps in the future with the greatest pressure on the Kangas after 2016 at the end of the TV deal they maybe forced to make some major decisions and stay in Tassie (Hobart) full time for their 11 Home games.
The Hawks of course will have plenty to say about that – All speculation of course and the AFL Commission will also have a major say.
Proud to be a AFL banner waver on a NSW based sports forum, which in itself reveals some of the most peculiar attitudes to Australian sport.
January 17th 2012 @ 11:39pm
The Cattery said | January 17th 2012 @ 11:39pm | Report comment
2012 AFL memberships as at 17/1/12:
Club Members
Collingwood 49,334
Hawthorn 43,103
West Coast 42,383
Essendon 33,008
Geelong 26,917
Richmond 27,425
Carlton 25,544
Adelaide 24,965
Melbourne 21,494
St Kilda 19,131
Western Bulldogs 19,114
North Melbourne 18,251
Port Adelaide 17,070
Sydney 14,310
Brisbane 11,870
Gold Coast 8,568
GWS 4,123
Fremantle N/A
January 18th 2012 @ 7:30am
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 7:30am | Report comment
Am surprised St K is so low. Could it be that last year’s pre-season controversy has had a lasting effect?
January 18th 2012 @ 3:13pm
Jaceman said | January 18th 2012 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
Over 400K if you throw in Freo – anyone heard the GWS club song or Freos new one?? Is there a new one for freo??
January 17th 2012 @ 11:53pm
Republican said | January 17th 2012 @ 11:53pm | Report comment
Hawthorn are planning on playing out of NZ – not Tassie who will again be expediently dealt with by the perfidious AFL.
Heres to the brave new year i.e. 2012.
January 18th 2012 @ 4:58am
The_Wookie said | January 18th 2012 @ 4:58am | Report comment
I think NZ might be a step too far for the Hawks unless they lose out at the end of this tassie deal. North have a 3 year contract which will almost certainly see them screw over Tassie the way they have everywhere else they’ve gone chasing a buck. Still between them they’ll end up with 10,000 members – imagine how many more they’d get if they were playing good vic sides instead of the giants and gold coast.
January 18th 2012 @ 8:33am
Redb said | January 18th 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Real footy just 2 mths away. Everyone is #trainingthehousedown only the Bombers have improved though
January 18th 2012 @ 10:11am
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Walking to the tennis yesterday I was pleasantly surprised to see C/wood & Richmond both out training. A nice advertisement for our gr8 game to all the visitors
January 18th 2012 @ 10:30am
The Cattery said | January 18th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Did you boo?
January 18th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Tony said | January 18th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Who – Richmond or C/wood?
January 18th 2012 @ 2:05pm
The Cattery said | January 18th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
Both!!
January 18th 2012 @ 2:46pm
The_Wookie said | January 18th 2012 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
It seems that everybody is lately. I reckon theres actually been an increase in offseason fluff pieces this year. Training the house down, bulking up, getting fit, keen to face the new season.
Its just 30 days to the start of the NAB Cup.
January 18th 2012 @ 3:54pm
Redb said | January 18th 2012 @ 3:54pm | Report comment
When the test cricket is done it will be time to look to the NAB Cup, at the rookies coming through,etc. Essendon plays its triple header in Perth so its TV for me.
Feb 17 Fox Footy kicks off as well. Gotta love it.
January 18th 2012 @ 9:52pm
The_Wookie said | January 18th 2012 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
ive got the Blues in Adelaide on one of their rare travel occasions. Cant wait to watch us beat the locals. With 17 FTA games thuis year, carlton supporters wont really need Fox to see games lol.
January 19th 2012 @ 7:33am
Redb said | January 19th 2012 @ 7:33am | Report comment
If you have a choice between FTA and Foxtel you’d pick Foxtel yes? HD & no commercials. Fox Footy is not just the games the return of AFL360,etc will be great.
January 19th 2012 @ 7:38am
The_Wookie said | January 19th 2012 @ 7:38am | Report comment
lets just say there are other ways of obtaining that.
January 19th 2012 @ 7:50am
Redb said | January 19th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
Hmmm… Ch 7 refusing to go live as cost them ratings no doubt. people will find a way. Will they come back?
January 19th 2012 @ 4:14pm
TW said | January 19th 2012 @ 4:14pm | Report comment
Well it looks like someone at the North Melbourne Kangas reads the AFL section on The Roar.(Just joking) The club has dampened down any speculation for the time being that the club will eventually end up in Hobart.
Apparently they will receive about $900,000 for each game played down there in their current 2 games a year 3 year deal 2012- 2014. They “may” increase it to 4 games a year from 2015.
Ballarat and surrounds in country Victoria appears to be their main target and according to their figures has a population of about 200,000 incl Bendigo. So a twin attack development wise outside of Melbourne has been adopted – Well at least they are trying.
They are only guaranteed AFL funding until 2016 – Will they be be solid enough by then in an increasingly crowded sporting Melb.
Read on —
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/roos-sign-deal-in-hobart-rule-out-relocation-20120117-1q4pb.html