Loss of Voss part of poor Channel Nine footy programming
By jamesb, 12 Mar 2012 jamesb is a Roar Guru
As a keen NRL fan, on the weekend I was watching the usual Sunday NRL shows on Channel Nine, the Sunday Footy Show and the Sunday Roast.
But something odd occurred. The two shows merged with each other, rather than being run like separate shows.
A genuine mix-match of two shows rolled into one. In the first week I thought at the time that it was going to be a one off, because Channel Nine were going to show a midday game from Auckland, the New Zealand Warriors vs Manly, due to the fact the cricket was scheduled later that day.
But it happened again on the weekend.
On the Sunday Roast, there was a completely different panel.It was hosted by Tim Gilbert with Adam MacDougall, Andrew Webster and Andrew Ryan.
They were there in place of Andrew Voss, Mark Geyer, Phil Gould and Terry Kennedy (I was happy TK was gone).
As a viewer it was hard to follow. Am I watching the Sunday Footy Show or ‘The Roast’. As the guys on the panel of ‘The Roast’ were discussing, they also included the guys from the Sunday Footy Show (who were busy tweedling their thumbs).
So you have two sets of panel shows talking to one another. Unusual.
A real shame, because I always found those two shows, especially ‘The Roast’ very entertaining. It certainly puts the Thursday night’s Footy Show to shame.
Another thing that was unusual is what has happened to Andrew Voss? Voss normally hosts the The Roast, but has been replaced by Gilbert.
This adds with Voss’ reduced role at Nine after he was demoted to the third main caller behind Ray Warren and radio 2GB Ray Hadley. He will only call games either in New Zealand or interstate, with Warren noted for his dislike of flying.
Voss also had a segment of the Thursday night footy show ‘Stuff that you may have missed’, but he also has been replaced by Darryl ‘Big Marn’ Brohman.
You could say that Voss is on the outer at Nine. Reasons for his reduced role at Nine is all speculative.
I remember Voss did make light of Ray Warren’s statue last year, which did upset his arch-nemeis Hadley, and more importantly David Gyngell, the boss of Channel Nine.
But surely there is something else to this story which hasn’t been brought to light yet.
In my opinion, I don’t think Voss is the main caller for a network, but he is more than capable.
Voss will also be used as part of Channel Nine’s Olympic coverage later this year, but after that, his future at Nine is clouded.
You could say Channel Nine covering the NRL next year is also under a cloud, with the likes of Channels Ten and Seven keen to get rugby league to their respective networks.
Maybe Voss is looking at his options right now as we speak with perhaps a possible move to Channels Ten or Seven.
There have been many criticisms of Channel Nines coverage of the NRL in recent years, but yesterday’s mix-match of the two shows, along with the absence of Voss, I’m sure has raised a few eyebrows.
There are many NRL fans out their that would want Channel Nine to lose the rights to the NRL. The irony here is, come season 2013, theres a possiblity Voss could be calling NRL games, but Channel Nine might not be covering it.
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March 12th 2012 @ 7:24am
oikee said | March 12th 2012 @ 7:24am | Report comment
Vossy and Ben Ikin are calling the Intrust Queensland Cup on Channel 9 in Queensland. The first game was the best i have watched ever i think, fantastic calling and they look likely to be a welcome addition to Queensland veiwers. I also heard that the ARL, NRL whatever it is called these days, wants to build up the 2 state competitions. To do this, you need good callers.
Wynnum got up, young Loxley who was playing under 20′s last year at storm, mom.
I will now be watching the Queensland cup each Sunday.
Sunshine coast next week-end.
March 12th 2012 @ 11:13pm
Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 12th 2012 @ 11:13pm | Report comment
I was at that game. Got to see Voss and Ikin up close as I walked in to take my seat.
I could actually hear Voss’s commentary as I watched the game!
There was a huge crowd at BMD Kougari Oval, which added to the experience. The fans in the Chook Pen were quite vocal all game! I found the experience at the Intrust Super Cup to be MUCH better than the one I had at Cowboys vs Broncos NRL game. The game between the Cowboys and Broncos was a beauty, but the seating, walking up and down the ailesto get to the seating and goofy music/promos they have every 2 minutes were annoying. The atmosphere was much more relaxed at BMD Kougari Oval: there was none of the noisy music and goofy promos that the Broncos hold;the food was very affordable and much tastier and fresher than the stuff they sell at the NRL; the seating in the main grandstand was very comfortable, with enough room between each row to allow spectators to stretch their legs out. I can’t wait until next week’s game.
I reckon Voss might end up enjoying his new role. The lower scale facilities might not be as comfortable as the commentary boxes at the NRL grounds, but the day experience is much more relaxing and enjoyable. I don’t know when his shift with Nine finishes, but if it’s straight after he calls the game then he can go have a decent home-style meal and drink in an air conditioned Leagues club.
I really think the QRL and ARLC should look at marketing the Queensland Cup as a family event. The games are ideal for families because they’re played in the afternoon, the food is good and afforable, there are jumping castles for the kids to play on, adjacent ovals are available for them to kick a ball around, and the seating is very comfortable. I reckon the ideal situation would be for the non-televised matches in Brisbane to be played at 2:00pm each Saturday. The timeslot would not place them against an NRL game, allowing people to watch the Queensland Cup and then drive home to see the NRL on TV or go to an NRL game at Lang Park, if there’s one on that night. I’d go one stepfurther and have one of these matches televised. This would give rugby league in Queensland a huge advantage over other sports. One of the best ways to keep families interested in the sport is by giving them a match-day experience that is affordable but enjoyable. The Queensland Cup is definitely more affordable than the NRL, and very enjoyable. The ARLC and QRL do it right then they might have something that’ll stop casual supporters heading to the AFL and Super Rugby.
March 14th 2012 @ 9:48am
KSI said | March 14th 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I really enjoyed Voss calling Q Cup on the weekend. I could give Ikin a miss. I was a little worried when I heard 9 had the Q Cup thinking we would have some kid commentator from Sydney with no idea. But was great.
I wish they did the Saturday game too or at least let ABC call it.
I used to love my ABC Q Cup time. I prob watched it more than the Sunday NRL game. Live is always better.
March 12th 2012 @ 7:57am
peeeko said | March 12th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
can you confirm that Voss will not be back on the roast? its one show i certainly miss living overseas. on that subject i loved voss and gus on boots and all a couple of years back
March 12th 2012 @ 8:04am
Hanzo said | March 12th 2012 @ 8:04am | Report comment
I was glad you mentioned the Thursday footy show. I have no idea how this show is still on TV?! It has slowly fallen away in quality over the last few years and is now quite painful to watch. Strangely i do still watch it (mostly in fast-forward mode!) in the hope I stumble upon an episode where there are flashbacks to some of the best moments like they did towards the end of last season, or fingers crossed, there is a genuine NEW funny moment. Sadly these are few and far between.
As for Voss, I did like his commentary but really enjoyed his hosting skills particularly of the Roast. The mishmash of the 2 shows seems quite bizzare. Not sure why the format was changed as i did the 2 completely different styles of the 2 shows.
March 12th 2012 @ 8:29am
B.A Sports said | March 12th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
It astounds me that Nine have this diabolical claptrap on a Thursday night, which they refuse to change, yet the one show that was any good – The Roast – has had the stuffing ripped out of it.
Voss has been pretty loyal to nine over the years doing all the extra tavel, and al lthe sports that Ray Warren doesn’t want to do. And Vossy loves (or at least did) Ray Warren. But how Nine can still keep rolling our Warren who was done 5 years ago when you have a good caller like Voss is crazy.
I don’t mind the “show within a show” appraoch” on a Sunday, but they have to lose Webster, Gilbert and McDougall (and what Andrew Ryan was doing there I will never know). Gilbert is painful. He is not quick witted and he wants to pause at every opportunity to tell us about the “amazing triumph from tragedy” story even when it wasn’t that big a tragedy or that great a triumph.
The Roast was Andrew Voss’s creation, what they have on now is not “The Roast”, they need to change the title of it.
March 12th 2012 @ 11:17pm
Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 12th 2012 @ 11:17pm | Report comment
Don’t forget about Fittler. A great player in his day, but a commentator he is not. The man’s cockiness is irritating and he talks like a dullard.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are people out there who change the channel when he comes on.
March 16th 2012 @ 10:44pm
Bee said | March 16th 2012 @ 10:44pm | Report comment
How Channel Nine can have dumped Andrew Voss and kept Fittler is totally beyond me. Obviously they have different roles, but still!
Whenever Fittler pipes up, we press the mute button.
April 2nd 2013 @ 4:48pm
Terry said | April 2nd 2013 @ 4:48pm | Report comment
Keep Vossy,,,get rid of Gilbert? who he hell is he anyway,,,,,he has no idea, and Fittler and Joey cant even speak the Queens english.
Help us please
March 12th 2012 @ 8:36am
baller said | March 12th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
Voss wanted to get up here and call it i believe it was his choice, watch out though oikee the PRIDE are coming !!
March 12th 2012 @ 11:27am
oikee said | March 12th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Yes, i noticed they got up on the weekend. I will keep a eye out.
March 12th 2012 @ 12:45pm
mike from tari said | March 12th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
Dont worry boys it will be Redcliffes year & the best callers were Wrighty & Boland on the ABC, sadly no more.
March 12th 2012 @ 1:43pm
pC said | March 12th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
completely agree Mike. would be great if they kept the saturday arvo game on ABC AND had the sunday game on 9. I love the QCup
March 13th 2012 @ 10:02am
B.A Sports said | March 13th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
As someone who was in Cairns and following the Pride you were always filled with mixed emotion when the Pride got an ABC game (always an away game because ABC won’t travel north of Noosa). On the one hand it was good to be able to watch an away game, but the down side was Wright and Boland. Bacially it was Sheppard to Jensen, Jensen to Sheppard as far as they were concerned. They made zero effort to identify or know any of the players – kind of symbolic of the QRL’s treatment of the Far North really…
March 12th 2012 @ 8:37am
sledgeross said | March 12th 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
I think the problem with Vossy is the perception that he is a big head. He certainy p1ssed alot of players off over the years on the Footy Show.
March 12th 2012 @ 3:16pm
natehornblower said | March 12th 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
I’m hardly the biggest fan of Voss but I must say Hadley is a very average commentator. He barely knows players names
March 12th 2012 @ 11:21pm
Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 12th 2012 @ 11:21pm | Report comment
Hadley’s commentary is unusual because it’s more suited to radio. I’m not against the man, but it’ll take some time to get used to watching a match on television while listening to radio-style commentary. I suppose in the long run it might turn out to be better than the jokey stuff the other lot toss out. I’ll keep an open mind and decide after the season.
March 12th 2012 @ 11:57pm
DumpStar said | March 12th 2012 @ 11:57pm | Report comment
I like to listen to radio commentary, and Hadley is one of the best at that. I think most probably find it unusual because radio commentors have to paint a picture of everything that is happening in the game, while TV guys tend to just let the pictures do the talking, and thus more of a focus on throwing out accolades on what a particular player has just done.
I wonder if Hadley only has a one year deal. I could see another network scooping him up to headline there TV commentary team if nine loses it. That said, Rabs can’t really go around too many seasons more.
March 14th 2012 @ 2:17pm
Jack said | March 14th 2012 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
I agree that Vossy can come across as a little arrogant at times, but if Ch 9 were really concerned about him being a big head and p1ssing people off, surely the last person in the world they would replace him with would be Ray Hadley!!
The whole thing just doesn’t make sense. While Vossy might not be a “number one” commentator, he at least seems to be aware that the viewers can actually see what’s on the screen! Taking him off the roast is even more ridiculous, he was the heart and soul of that show
March 12th 2012 @ 8:58am
M1tch said | March 12th 2012 @ 8:58am | Report comment
I am very disappointed that the Roast is now a segment in the Sunday Footy Show, Gilbert loves footy yes, but I find him extremely dull, Mad Dog was alright, Andrew Ryan added less than nothing and Webster hardly got a word in. Gus is no longer involved for whatever reason and TK has been shafted too. No doubt Voss will be somewhere else in 2013 as the main caller.
March 12th 2012 @ 9:06am
jamesb said | March 12th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
I assume Gus would be busy being the “Duke of Penrith”, MG has gone to Fox.
You could say Voss and TK are the only ones that have been shafted. The only bright spot to come out of this is TK is not their. He has that bit of “I know everything and you don’t” attitude.
March 12th 2012 @ 9:17am
Ryan O'Connell said | March 12th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Yeah, I was watching on Sunday as well, and found the ‘merging’ of shows slightly bizarre.
March 12th 2012 @ 9:17am
Ryan O'Connell said | March 12th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Yeah, I was watching on Sunday as well, and found the ‘merging’ of shows slightly bizarre.