FFA must do the right thing by Mariners

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    This plea may be premature but now is the time to start the FFA thinking. If the newly crowned A-League 2012 premiers the Central Coast Mariners can grind out two more good results against Brisbane Roar over the next two weeks they will win the right to host the 2012 grand final.

    This may not be as impossible as a lot of punters think, as The Roar have to travel to Korea mid-week prior to playing the second leg against the Mariners at Bluetounge Stadium a week on Sunday.

    We know that BlueTongue Stadium only holds 20,000 people. But the surrounding waterfront would easily hold another 30,000 fans.

    Imagine the vibe watching with everyone on the Gosford Waterfront on giant screens as the game is being played within earshot.

    The Mariners have played in three grand finals, unfortunately losing all of them in very close results. The grand final against the Jets was our home grand final, and we deserved to play it at home. The FFA decided that we had to play the game in Sydney.

    So providing we get there, now is the time for the FFA to give us the grand final we deserve.

    Think hard FFA. In an area the other major codes neglect, you have the chance to secure the New South Wales Central Coast as a football powerhouse for many years to come.

    You can see that the Mariners have been a revelation as a regional side playing in a national competition. Their A-League record is one to be proud of.

    Give them their chance for their moment of glory, they will not disappoint.

    The FFA once again have been neglectful to the Mariners by not having the Premier’s Plate at Wellington last week to crown The Mariners as 2012 champions.

    This is their chance to redeem themselves and just maybe create one of those sporting fairytales for our code that would put bums on seats for many a year to come.

    Over to you, FFA.

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    • March 29th 2012 @ 7:22am
      Lucan said | March 29th 2012 @ 7:22am | ! Report

      This year it should certainly be at Gosford (should CCM win the major semi).

      Down the track, when the league is well enough established I’d like to see the GF moved from city to city annually like the NFL’s Superbowl.

      • Roar Guru

        March 29th 2012 @ 8:23am
        The Cattery said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:23am | ! Report

        I don’t know about the merit of doing it exactly like the NFL, if different teams are winning hosting rights by merit, the grand final is moving around the country anyway.

        • March 29th 2012 @ 9:36am
          Lucan said | March 29th 2012 @ 9:36am | ! Report

          Awarding on merit is a great ideal, but even that can be inequitable. Should Heart host a GF will they be permitted to host at Bubbledome, or will they lose their home ground so the final can be played at the larger capacity Docklands? Can Perth host a Grand Final on merit at Perth Oval, or would it be shifted to Subiaco?

          Award the host well in advance, like the NFL or UEFA Champs League Final, would be a good result. Making the showpiece available to fans everywhere. Make it a week long carnival/festival of football. It would be good to spread the Gospel also, especially considering some cities get very little Socceroo love.

          Like the NFL or CL, should the team from that stadium make the final good luck to them.

          • Roar Guru

            March 29th 2012 @ 9:46am
            The Cattery said | March 29th 2012 @ 9:46am | ! Report

            At least it’s in the same city – I don’t think anyone is going to complain about the Heart going 2km down the road to play before 50k (if they ever get to host a grand final).

            • March 29th 2012 @ 1:18pm
              Clayts said | March 29th 2012 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

              I would. The dome is a TERRIBLE ground to watch football at. Not even in the same league as AAMI. Pretty sure Heart supporters would 100% agree

    • March 29th 2012 @ 8:16am
      Midfielder said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:16am | ! Report

      The worst part is if we have to play at the home stadium of the other side … as they all hold more people…

      • Roar Guru

        March 29th 2012 @ 8:22am
        The Cattery said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:22am | ! Report

        That would just about be the worst case scenario – that a below average team that snuck into the finals on the last day of the season, ends up hosting it and winning the championship.

        Hopefully the Nix can put the kybosh on that possibility first up.

    • March 29th 2012 @ 8:28am
      Midfielder said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:28am | ! Report

      Part 1 of a youtube being created by someone on our forum…
      the Mariners season.. all our goals and saves ..

    • Roar Guru

      March 29th 2012 @ 8:29am
      Philip Coates said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:29am | ! Report

      I also think that if CCM win the hosting rights the match should be in Gosford but given the leagues poor finances I cant see it happening.

      As for this author (and Arnold’s) bleating that the FFA were “neglectful to the Mariners by not having the Premier’s Plate at Wellington last week to crown The Mariners as 2012 champions” I’d like them to explain the following. If the Mariners had lost the match, how would the FFA fly the plate back to the Gold Coast in the 90 minutes available to present it to Brisbane when they won? Or do they think it should have been presented to the Mariners but not presented to Brisbane if Bris won? The logistics made the plate presentation difficult. Of course they could have presented a fake replica plate (one at each ground just in case) and then I am sure we would have had complaints about that also.

      • Roar Guru

        March 29th 2012 @ 8:38am
        The Cattery said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:38am | ! Report

        Re the finances of having the grand final at Gosford – I think a full Blue tongue would be quite lucrative.

      • March 29th 2012 @ 8:46am
        lazelle said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:46am | ! Report

        Mariners earned by going into the weekend on top.

        Read that? Having a better record, being a better team, than the league’s darlings.

        There is really only one place it should have been.

      • March 29th 2012 @ 9:10am
        McGrime said | March 29th 2012 @ 9:10am | ! Report

        Yes Phil, the Replica would have done the trick. This is not a whinge about the FFA.

        More about the little things that they get wrong that the other codes always get right we just need to lift our game.

        Arnold was right sure it will be fine to present the plate next week at Bluetounge but the moment is gone.

        The Mariners will be concentrating on the job of beating Brisbane

      • March 29th 2012 @ 1:04pm
        PeterK said | March 29th 2012 @ 1:04pm | ! Report

        And some people wanted the two games played simultaneously! How would the plate have been in both places at once then!

        • March 29th 2012 @ 1:20pm
          Clayts said | March 29th 2012 @ 1:20pm | ! Report

          @ PeterK. It’s called a replica. Pretty much every other sport where this kind of thing could happen would use one. No one would know and the ‘ceremony’ gets to be enjoyed by the fans and players. How would you in the stands possibly know if it was a replica or not?

          • March 30th 2012 @ 12:48pm
            PeterK said | March 30th 2012 @ 12:48pm | ! Report

            True enough I guess, Clayts, but if I ever found out!!!

      • March 29th 2012 @ 6:50pm
        Melinda said | March 29th 2012 @ 6:50pm | ! Report

        90 minutes? Work on your maths mate. Sydney vs Jets and Gold Coast vs Brisbane were between the end of our game and the end of Brisbane’s, that’s 240 minutes already, plus there was a half an hour break.
        I think that given that the Mariners were first, the preference should have gone to them.

        • March 30th 2012 @ 12:51pm
          PeterK said | March 30th 2012 @ 12:51pm | ! Report

          Ah, but what if the order of matches were reversed! If Roar played first and won, then they and all the world would still have to wait to see whether CCM would win, and if they did not, then the trophy goes to Roar — but that wouldn’t be known at the end of the Roar match.

          Ah the permutations that might be!

    • March 29th 2012 @ 8:55am
      apaway said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:55am | ! Report

      If the Mariners win the major semi against Brisbane, the game should be played at Gosford. And if the ground is not absolutely packed on Grand Final day, with temporary seating organised for the end where the palm trees are, and a spill-over crowd watching big screens on the waterfront, then it should never go there again. But the Mariners deserve the chance after the season they’ve had.

      • March 29th 2012 @ 9:06am
        Titus said | March 29th 2012 @ 9:06am | ! Report

        I was thinking temporary corporate boxes in front of the palm trees.

    • Roar Guru

      March 29th 2012 @ 8:56am
      mds1970 said | March 29th 2012 @ 8:56am | ! Report

      In season 3, the Mariners had their “home” grand final at the SFS; and that was justified with a crowd of over 34,000. But that season was the high point in terms of crowds, and it was a NSW derby against Newcastle and well over 10,000 of the fans in attendance were Jets fans. Plenty of neutrals as well (including me, the only non-Sydney FC A-League game I’ve attended unless you count the double header last season).
      It’s extremely unlikely to be a NSW derby this time. To even make the prelim final, Sydney FC would have to win away trips to Wellington and Perth back to back; the travel factor alone would kill them. Crowds, although up this year, haven’t yet caught up to the levels of a few years ago.
      If the Mariners qualify to host a grand final, Bluetongue should be adequate this time.

      • March 29th 2012 @ 9:08am
        Titus said | March 29th 2012 @ 9:08am | ! Report

        If Heart beat Perth, then Sydney just need to win in Wellington and then play a home final.

        • March 29th 2012 @ 2:57pm
          apaway said | March 29th 2012 @ 2:57pm | ! Report

          …and if that happens Titus, and the Mariners do win the major semi, the FFA is faced with a situation where a team that finished 5th, will be playing off to make the GF, with the real possibility that it would be played at their home ground against the team who won the right to host it (but was denied due to ground size)

          Could get messy.

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