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A footy fan still longing for Sunday arvo games to return to Ballymore and Lang Park and to watch Coorparoo playing Morningside in the QAFL at Giffin Park.
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The DOCA falls over if RA withholds the license and does not issue it to the new entity.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
One of the big gripes SOARR had was expansion into Victoria and funding the Rebels.
What makes you think SOARR will keep the Rebels?
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
At my club we made sure everyone was POTM at least once,
You got 6 jugs of beer for it. 😂
Maybe it was Ned’s turn?
Wallabies in danger of losing Hanigan to ambitious French club just as forward enters his prime
Geez he’d be a handy replacement for JFH if you got him.
Blues Origin predicted team: Maguire set to overhaul squad in search of winning combination
Isn’t that actually already the case now?
Yep.
You need to understand.
Big crowds at Shute Shield games is because the NSWRU is doing a great job with the clubs.
Penrith being kicked out of Shute Shield and a lack of Rugby community engagement with the Sydney Western Suburbs is because RA has lost touch with the grass roots and is Eastern suburbs and North Shore centric.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
But clearly not the “direct and honest” feedback the SOARR group wanted to hear.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
I think most QLD supporters don’t see Waugh that way at all and would say that on face value, he and Herbert are working hard to reset RA and some good decisions have been made.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
That is great news!
I like Phil Waugh and think he is a good Rugby man.
Your friend’s experience with David Hanham has been very different to how the GM of our club speaks about him.
Gaven Head and his team are excellent.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
It is not a “coup” when it didn’t happen suddenly, was not unlawful, and was not the action of a small group.
It is called “process.”
The issue saw 5 board meetings by video and phone conferencing chaired by Pip Marlow over 3 days.
Hamish was directly asked to resign twice.
6 member unions signed the letter of no confidence.
Brett Clark then spoke in detail about issues.
How is that “Herbert and the faceless from ACT”?
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
When did Phil Waugh last go around to all the rugby clubs and meet the paying fans?
He’s CEO and based in NSW but the Chair, who lives in QLD is expected to visit the NSW clubs?
The NSW clubs are not governed by RA nor does RA provide oversight or manage development etc. They fall under the NSWRU remit.
NSW nominated Phil as a director and got him onto the board in 2018.
What’s he done for you in the almost 6 years he was on the board as a director, that Herbert is now supposed to conjure up in his 6 months as Chairman?
I support Phil Waugh as CEO and I support Dan Herbert as a director – he is still interim Chair isn’t he?
That does not mean I support everything being done at RA, but compared with all the false promises, fluff, bluff and bravado around this time last year, it feels like good people with good intentions are now in the right positions making good decisions.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
Good comment.
Some teams have no chance not simply because of their rosters, but also because of their coaching.
You see it all the time.
Whatever the current winning teams are doing, the other coaches copy and play a version of “Penrith Lite” or “Melbourne Lite.”
Fittler thought that bringing in Cleary, Luai, Martin and Yeo would mean NSW could copy the Penrith game. But that ignores the fact you don’t have the Penrith 1, 9 or other essentials like their props. The Penrith side is greater than the sum of its parts.
Flanagan has taken the approach we expected and has been smart.
First, make your team harder to score against, then, make sure you limit errors, and push players for extra in the “effort areas.”
Once he sees his side as consistently tough and defensively strong, he’ll add more creative attack as he plugs in more key players.
Ciraldo is understanding the same thing.
Too often we see “incomplete” teams trying to copy a style of play that a successful team over a long term with a stable roster has developed. And fail…
Paradox of parity: NRL craves a level playing field but fans love to hate a dynasty like Penrith’s undisputed reign
If he plays SOO it triggers an extension to his Tigers contract.
So London Panther would prefer that didn’t happen in the hope Penrith can sign him next season.
Blues Origin predicted team: Maguire set to overhaul squad in search of winning combination
Well…now that is a different topic Charlie.
And a good one.
My response was to someone referencing that Waugh has no higher education qualification in finance when he clearly does.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
A nominations committee is common in organisations.
Ideally RA would advertise and seek candidates, run them through vetting by consultancy and have an independent deliver a brief and recommendation on each of the best candidates.
I think a fair number of the SOARR group would have seen a candidate like Geoff Stooke unable to get back on the board as indicative of operating RA as a closed shop.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
And the closed shop nominations committee was part of the major governance changes that happened whilst Geoff Stooke was a director. Changes that resulted in him being reappointed as an independent director.
So it can work…
Geoff Stooke is the kind of person we’d ideally see on a RA board. I just wish we could see it without a revolution…
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
There would be deals and representations being made from both sides to sway votes.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
The proposed board structure sees guaranteed representation for the other state and territory member unions.
It’s clever and might attract the Vic, Tas, SA, NT and WA votes and the Force vote = 6.
If they have NSW on board then they should get over the line.
If NSW stays with RA then they need the RUPA vote to force a spill.
On the face of it, I don’t see why NSW would support it given the structure could result in the other state & territory member unions having considerable influence. More than QLD and NSW.
It would not be a board representative of the Rugby Community given 74% of rugby players are in NSW & QLD as are the majority of clubs.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
My position is easy.
If you burn the current board because of historical decisions, everyone on the board and at RA who was on the board in the past 5 years must go.
And I don’t advocate to burn the board.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
I’m happy for Waught to remain under the current structure.
But I believe it is either a double standard or plain bias for SOARR to campaign to throw out the directors because of historically poor governance and decision making, but not include Phil Waugh in that cohort given he was a director longer than Dan Herbert and closer to specific decisions made that they list as their major gripes.
Indeed, now Russ advocates that Phil deserves to stay because recently he’s been making good decisions, as if he is now alone in making those decisions.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
Trust us, because we are not them…
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
Phil Waugh has a Masters of Commerce and a Masters of International Business.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
But Dan Herbert somehow hasn’t been involved in those “good decisions” Russ?
Only Phil…
I know it doesn’t suit the narrative, but Phil isn’t making these decisions himself, he is announcing them.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
but as he is now off the Board and has been involved in some good decisions he should remain
So… the Board needs to go because they rubber stamped Hamish’s decisions, OK. Let’s run with that as a reasonable position.
But Phil Waugh, who was a director for all but the last 4 months of Hamish’s tenure and was hands on in most of the decisions is now a clean skin, and absolved of any responsibility because he is no longer a director?
No, that isn’t a balanced or consistent position to take.
So when Phil joined in with his fellow directors and made bad decisions, and let Hamish run riot, signed Sua’ali’i, sacked Rennie, signed Eddie, was all over the Folau issue, Castle’s stint etc…he is not held to account like the other directors there at the time?
And interestingly now the “good decisions” Phil Waugh has been involved in as CEO are being solely attributed to him by SOARR but not the current board who would have approved them?
Are we to believe Phil is able to make these decisions on his own without oversight? I don’t think so.
The current board is not being given any attribution for any “good decisions” since Hamish departed that Phil Waugh may have announced?
Phil was a director, was on 3 board committees – HR, Rugby and Governance, and not only approved many of the decisions made in his 5+ years on the board, in many instances his committees reported and recommended the board approve these decisions.
How can he be considered as the best person to lead RA as CEO by the group looking to restructure and fix things when he was so complicit in the decisions that have put us where we are today?
Again, I am OK with Phil, Dan Herbert, Brett Godfrey and others taking things forward.
I would prefer to see a change to some other directors but not by a revolt.
But I cannot see how, without bias, a group wanting to spill the board and throw them all out, advocates to keep a key decision maker and driver of the mess as CEO.
'Definition of madness': Rugby reform must start with total cleanout of RA board - and this should happen next
Nor does it matter that it’s to be an assistant as that person will then be made head coach later on the back of simply having been as assistant.
Really?
Ask the loads of assistant coaches who never progressed past being an assistant how that worked for them…
Simply put, there are all sorts of pathways that lead to a coaching role within a Super Rugby club.
If the highest exposure you have had as a player is Shute Shield or Hospitals Cup – or 4th grade, then of course as a coach you are going to have to work your way up through the ranks, win a lot of games, study, maybe even get unpaid experience in a HP structure, and get your credentials in good order.
However, if you have been in high performance environments all of your adult rugby life, played at the highest level and excelled, played around the world under some of the best coaches on the planet?
Well, that should get you some advanced standing or, to use a Uni term: recognition of prior learning, and jump you a few rungs on the ladder.
Now…if we had a national coaching academy…that’s a different matter.
The Wrap: Why SANZAAR must hold Frank Lomani accountable for 'going back for his hat'
Yes.
But much of the DOCA offer has to be contingent on the license being issued for a reasonable term with no added onerous conditions etc.
RA won’t wan’t to be considered as unreasonably withholding the license either, or they could face a challenge on that matter.
NSW doesn’t operate the Tahs anymore, does it?
They handed over all of the SR and high performance operation.
The Rebels V RA will continue to be an interesting watch.
The DOCA being backed by the Administrator was almost a given, but still backs RA into a bit of a corner.
On the face of it, RA sound like they are prepared keep on swinging though and resist their inclusion.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival