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Agree. The logic behind owning football clubs is rarely one based on a financial return.
CFG is an exercise in sports-washing where the money doesn’t matter.
And Melb City exist to assist Man City with their UEFA FFP rules.
If I won the USA $billion lottery I’d buy Roar – but it wouldn’t be for the money I’d make lol.
Multi-club ownership model: The good, the bad and the ugly behind football's newest structural trend
You need the games for development. Australians don’t play enough football as it is.
It doesn’t mean you need more teams though – 10 teams playing each other 4 times gives a 36 game season.
This is still light compared to the 50+ games most European players are playing each season. Even the MLS is playing a 34 round league season considered by many experts to be the minimum number of competitive games for development to occur.
Australia needs to decide whether it’s part of the world game or just a pimple on its backside … the success of our Matilda’s and Socceroos would suggest we want to be a part of it, as does the spectacular viewing figures for both – the Australian public want to be a part of that … and the A Leagues was the foundation of those teams.
Can we afford a national competition is a good question – it doesn’t look like we can.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Robbie Fowler to Victory. Yes please.
(and in a “good for the competition way).
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
I’ve no doubt Brisbane would have complained and remember Roar have history with FFA where we lost a Premiership to, checks notes, err to Adelaide when we lost three players for three games and were told any player not released for national duty (three friendlies) would be suspended for the 3-week duration … so Adelaide may not want to shout too loud on that point.
(And FA were so unsure whether they called him up or not they had to have an independent enquiry to find out lol – so the cynic in me says he was “called up” but they found a way out of the suspension)
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
There is a way back. But the clowns won’t find it.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Roar, under David Pourre, were the first club to propose an annual ANZAC Day game. For some reason they wanted it against Adelaide and not Nix?
There was a belief that given time it could be turned in to a genuine premium fixture, especially as Suncorp was free on this day (Broncos were routinely scheduled south for some reason).
Sadly Roar got one go at it but the following season multiple clubs had made the same request despite the challenges of stadium availability and then I think they all realised the same thing – the cost of renting, staffing, and Policing games on ANZAC Day are huge.
Sadly a good idea for BRFC was first diluted by Southern states (sound familiar?) and secondly the club dived nose first in to mediocrity and few wanted to watch. Even on ANZAC Day.
A familiar pattern for the A League emerging even back then – poor execution!
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
You’ve made the same mistake as the APL.
The Awards Night was not for media attention, it was for the players.
Cancelling it is equivalent to cancelling the company Christmas party – you can save a few dollars sure, but it’s bad for morale.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Former (and current) players know nothing about officiating a game – if they did they wouldn’t go off like chucks at pretty much every decision lol.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
You can’t connect with the football base amongst a sea of negativity. It’s not easy I agree but first Gallop and now the APL make it much harder than it needs to be.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Your post sums up the problem perfectly.
The news should be about the football, but the clowns in suits at the APL find a way to make it not about the football with remarkable regularity.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
You say “ One of those models has strong organic roots – it is sustainable long-term and will always be well-placed to weather good times and bad times”
Well, why did the NSL fail then – it literally collapsed leaving us without a top-flight competition for nearly two years.
Getting a football league to work is hard work, there isn’t one model that guarantees success or failure.
Even now, the worst A League average crowds are better than the best NSL crowds – do let’s be careful if we’re throwing rocks from the past.
And the ALW is waaaay better than the National some s league we had with the NSL … errr, wait wot … we didn’t have one??
Well I’m sure the new NSD will be taking care of that … err, wait wot??
The NSL shouldn’t have collapsed – the fact it did was down to mismanagement and vested self interests.
It had pro/rel then it didn’t … neither saved them.
They played in summer and winter, neither saved them.
They had “expansion clubs”, they changed traditional club names (yay, go the Lakers), they fiddled with the competition format, points system, broadcaster … it still failed.
There are lessons to be learned but (imo) no one is listening due to, err, self interest!
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Leon,
That’s a really good post.
When you say “ Appointing RZ is sensible without being ambitious” I would agree, but also add that it’s a low risk approach as well.
We also need to hope Kaz & Zac stay at the club. Much as I have been disappointed by their communications this season I am prepared to concede that probably their worst sin was underestimating the hole the club was in, and even not realising what poor planning Fong had done eg planning to play at Ballymore without any working lights.
If I could go back to my posts from last year where I said we need to sign a center back and a proven goal scorer, it’s the same this year – only with Aldred and Trewens departure we need two CB’s.
It will be an interesting off season.
Sydney can't get past nine-man Bulls, Wanderers on life support, Cahn departs
This is not rocket science, marketing communications is basic stuff and getting it right is the very minimum … or at least not insulting the intelligence of your customers is.
Perhaps it’s no surprise that we’re now getting spin-doctored messaging treating fans like they are fools – there seems to be nowhere left to go?
Again, you have to wonder who thought appointing Nick Garcia, someone who’s rarely held a position down for more than 2 years, to lead a complex business in a state of almost constant chaos in one of the worlds most demanding sports markets was a good idea?
It’s certainly not looking like a good idea as the competition bumbles from one own goal to the next.
I guess being a former CFG employee helped – the suspicion on who makes all the decisions around here only grows with that.
The A Leagues – the home of the own goal.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw
Mike
I probably didn’t explain myself – the tournament is only big enough for three States with only 12th teams playing
You could put a group in NSWs but couldn’t split a group between two states. So basically three groups equals three states I’m guessing.
AAMI Park is too small for the competition, that would rule out Adelaide_as_well
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
That’s the problem with branding, we all see different things: I hated the Orange n White
Other than that deviation, a solid post 😛
Sydney can't get past nine-man Bulls, Wanderers on life support, Cahn departs
This has been your most optimistic and positive post all season. Maybe things are improving??
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
* dummies in place
(I have many)
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
I watched that game, and they played a lot of long ball football which perhaps suited Ozzie’s style
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
Three more years with Mark Rudan in charge at Wanderers.
Unbelievable.
Sydney can't get past nine-man Bulls, Wanderers on life support, Cahn departs
Do you know what the ratings are?
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
Zadkovic was the obvious choice, and again it’s good to see a young Australian given a chance.
Retaining Waddo should be easy enough, he’s not done enough to justify a sizeable transfer fee which is what it would take to get him out of the remaining ten years of his contract.
Also in the same press release was reference to a 4 year plan to get Roar to be “self sustaining” – that’s an interesting proposition
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
I thought that’s what you meant.
People who want to “protest” are typically still engaged with the competition, it’s why we have to be careful when people are being critical – it’s normally because they care.
The next step is disengaging
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
I resent that remark !!
It's time the APL came clean on the state of the game in the A-Leagues
Foxtel used to broadcast it snd I watched a couple, Roar were always good for the Fair Play Award (and that’s about it lol). It wasn’t spectacular viewing to be fair.
APL's spin doctoring insults Australian football fans' intelligence - and might well be the last straw