Hussey should be considered as one of the greats

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    Mike Hussey reacts after being dismissed first ball during first innings of Boxing Day Test between Australia and India at the MCG in Melbourne, Monday, Dec 26, 2011.(AAP Image/Julian Smith).

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    It took Michael Hussey 10 years to make his international debut for Australia in 2004, and in 2005 he finally was rewarded with a baggy green after missing out on selection during the Ashes.

    Everyone, especially state-based teammates Justin Langer and Adam Gilchrist, knew how good he was, having scored 15,000 first-class runs by 2005 with a high score of 331*.

    And, oh boy, when he got his chance, he made the most of it. In his first 20 Test matches, Hussey scored eight hundreds, eight fifties and had an average over 80. At the end of 2006 it was a peaking at a Bradman-like 100.

    He was the fastest ever batsman to reach 1000 Test runs and his ODI average was very similar to his Test record (he averaged 77 by the 2007 World Cup).

    But like all cricketers (except for Bradman), this purple patch had to come to an end and by 2010 his Test average had plummeted to 55, which is still right up there with the best in the game.

    Hussey is the only Australian player in the last 20 years to have played more than 50 Tests. Despite the fact his form has slightly diminished since 2009, he is probably Australia’s most consistent player and most hard-working cricketer.

    Hussey has scored 680 runs this year at an average of 52, which is his career average, including three hundreds. It hasn’t been a spectacular year by any means for Hussey but it has been a marvelous return to form which started at the MCG last year against India with a match-winning 89.

    A lot of the all time greats like Ponting, Waugh, Tendulkar and Lara have scored over 10,000 runs in Test cricket, over 30 Test hundreds and have also excelled in one-day cricket with similar numbers.

    But if you analyse every big inning Hussey has made, his style, how he senses moments in games and his work ethic, he should go down as one of Australia’s best.

    Hussey has never gotten a big 200 or 250 in a Test match like Clarke or Ponting, but he has always been able to contribute just that little half-century or silent hundred that has helped Australia win games, especially in the shorter formats.

    At 37 he looks as fit and strong as he ever was, and unlike the other veteran in the side (Ponting), he is almost certainly on his way to England next year.

    No wonder he is Mr. Cricket and always will be.

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    • November 27th 2012 @ 3:43am
      DubbleBubble said | November 27th 2012 @ 3:43am | ! Report

      I have had a few but I do not understand this sentence : Hussey is the only Australian player in the last 20 years to have played more than 50 Tests.

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        November 27th 2012 @ 7:17am
        TheGenuineTailender said | November 27th 2012 @ 7:17am | ! Report

        Maybe consecutive tests? I didn’t get it either…

        • November 27th 2012 @ 9:17am
          Bec said | November 27th 2012 @ 9:17am | ! Report

          Maybe 50 tests averaging over 50?

        • November 27th 2012 @ 9:21am
          CricketFanatic97 said | November 27th 2012 @ 9:21am | ! Report

          Yeah I forgot to add “to not be dropped”. it should be “Michael Hussey is the only Australian player in the last 20 years not to be dropped”

          • November 27th 2012 @ 1:42pm
            Nick Inatey said | November 27th 2012 @ 1:42pm | ! Report

            Well thats just plain wrong because Adam Gilchrist was never dropped.

            • Roar Rookie

              November 27th 2012 @ 6:38pm
              CricketFanatic97 said | November 27th 2012 @ 6:38pm | ! Report

              to average over 50 in test match cricket

              somehow that whole line was deleted ..

              sorry for confusing you guys

    • November 27th 2012 @ 4:08am
      Johnno said | November 27th 2012 @ 4:08am | ! Report

      If Huss had started out earlier int he team like picked in say the year 2000 as a 25 yr old or something he would of been one of the all time greats. He is one of our top 30 aussy batsmen off all time, but not in our top 5 or 3 or no 1.

      Dean Jones, Damien Martyn, Mark Waugh, Micheal Slater, Bill Lawry,the highly talanted Kim Hughes, David Boon,Mark Taylor, Geoff Marsh,Justin Langer, these type of batsmen, most of them I would put head of Hussey. But Hussey has been a stalwart, .

      And then the top echelon,guys like Don, Pup, Bobby Simpson,Greg Chappell, Ian Chappell, Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Border, Steve Waugh, are all considerably ahead of Huss in contribution to the aussy team. But Huss belongs defiantly to the above group maybe not the best or top 3 out of the above group but he belongs in that group.

      • November 27th 2012 @ 4:16am
        DubbleBubble said | November 27th 2012 @ 4:16am | ! Report

        You would put Jones ahead of Hussey? Seriously? Great one day batsmen but nowhere near him in tests. Geoff Marsh? A terrific one day batsmen but not Test class. Langer as well? Now I know you are having a laugh.

        • November 27th 2012 @ 4:54am
          Johnno said | November 27th 2012 @ 4:54am | ! Report

          I said Huss is in that group I didn’t say he was the best or worst, not laughing no lol. Deano was a brilliant test player, tied test DubbleBubble to blow your bubbles. Double century in Madras heat, Huss has never made a double ton. And some the brig scores along the way too, plus Deano had to make runs vs the might west indies, and take on India/Pakistan not he sub continent in the 1980’s when it was way harder to compete let alone win on the sub-continent.

          Geoff Marsh was a top quality competitor, a top ODI batmsen, but played some real gutsy test cricket knocks, Alan Border always had his vice captain as one of the first picked on his team sheet, he was shattered about him being dropped, and fought tooth and nail and helped get him recalled for the 92 ODI world cup. Geoff Marsh could play test cricket , and had to endure tough west indies bowling attacks with David Boon as his opening partner, and tough conditions in England, and the sub-continent .
          Justin Langer made massive scores does 250 at the MCG in 2002/3, plus another double century 215 in 2004/5 vs the kiwis ,Huss has never made a double century at test level.. Plus Langer’s match winning Hundred 127, in in that epic test in 1999 at Hobart, with Gilchrist.

          I think Double Bubble you are being way to harsh on Langer, and should look at Justin Langers stats before you cut him down. Look at some of his stats. Oh an sorry to burst your bubble one more time double bubble, I wont burst both just one hay so you have 1 bubble mate. Justin Langer has scored 3 double centuries Hussey has scored zero.
          That’s right 3 double centuries double Bubble , that;s a lot of double ton’s in test cricket to achieve
          I think you need to get your facts straight on justin Langer.

          And should I also mention justin Langers 54 on his test debut at Adeleide oval 4th test 1992/3 vs the mighty west Indies, in the 2nd innings. Top scorer in that 2nd innings for Australia a 22 yr old Justin Langer massively contributed to almost beating the windies only falling 1 run short. He made this gutsy 50 vs Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop all in there prime, in massive pressure conditions, and a high class 4th fast bowler in Kenneth Benjamin who is defiantly better or as good as Peter Siddle, but not as good as James Pattison.
          So if that is not a world class bowling attack especially those bog 3 I don’t know what is and to do it on debut even tougher, and only 22 unlike Huss coming in at 30.. And Langer/Hayden was part of Australia’s 2nd greatest opening combination 2nd only to Bill Lawry/Bobby SImpson in statistical records and not by much either.

          So before you go knocking Justin Langer Double Bubble you should get tour facts straight on Justin Langer Double Bubble.

          250 578 407 30 1 61.42 1 caught 1 v England Melbourne 26 Dec 2002
          223 523 355 30 0 62.81 3 caught 2 v India Sydney 2 Jan 2000
          215 499 368 25 3 58.42 1 caught 1 v New Zealand Adelaide 26 Nov 2004
          191 413 280 18 3 68.21 1 caught 1 v Pakistan Perth 16 Dec 2004
          179* 491 350 13 0 51.14 3 not out 1 v England Adelaide 11 Dec 1998 T
          166 405 295 13 2 56.27 1 bowled 3 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 24 Mar 2004
          162 412 285 22 0 56.84 1 caught 1 v Sri Lanka Cairns 9 Jul 2004
          146 377 270 19 2 54.07 1 caught 2 v West Indies Georgetown 10 Apr 2003
          144 437 286 16 0 50.34 3 caught 2 v Pakistan Perth 26 Nov 1999

          • November 27th 2012 @ 5:17am
            Johnno said | November 27th 2012 @ 5:17am | ! Report

            I’ll simplify those stats for you double Bubble as it also included his averages and that.
            I’ll just do the scores and dates and places. Some of Justin Langers best scores, he has made more hundreds as well 23 in total.

            250 v England Melbourne 26 Dec 2002
            223 v India Sydney 2 Jan 2000
            215 v New Zealand Adelaide 26 Nov 2004
            191 v Pakistan Perth 16 Dec 2004
            179* v England Adelaide 11 Dec 1998 T
            166 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 24 Mar 2004
            162 v Sri Lanka Cairns 9 Jul 2004
            146 v West Indies Georgetown 10 Apr 2003
            144 v Pakistan Perth 26 Nov 1999

            And his match innings of 127 in Hobart was VS an attack of Waism Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoab Akhtar, Saqlian, . What an attack and him and Gilchrist had to rescue the innings, against World class bowling when the aussies were in massive trouble at 5 down for 126 chasing 364 for victory on day 5. Massive effort vs that bowling attack.

            So Justin Langer has proven he can make big runs vs world class bowling attacks like the west Indies, and Pakistan, in big matches series deciding matches. As mentally tough as they come Justin Langer . And his massive head knock vs STH Africa and he just kept on batting after is tribute to his toughness.

            And I will also add his century his 102, and he had to reitre hurt mind you on 102, when in cracking form vs enlgand 5th test 2001. He had to come in to the side after Slater had been dropped, amid all the stuff faith Steve Waugh , and JL in typical fashion took his opportunity and played a great innings, on a fast oval pitch. So all in all Double Bubble I think your way to harsh on Justin Langer ,are you having a laugh mate , I should be saying to you.

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              November 28th 2012 @ 2:13am
              Neuen said | November 28th 2012 @ 2:13am | ! Report

              Ain’t that the same attack that Pat Symcox also scored his only test hundred against? If I can remember correct he scored that century and was dropped the next test. Incidentally SA scored 364 to be exact in that drawn test match


          • November 27th 2012 @ 5:19am
            DubbleBubble said | November 27th 2012 @ 5:19am | ! Report

            I apologise that I said you thought Jones et al was better than Hussey as you clearly did not say that. Still, I will never rate Jones as a genuine test batsmen and will always regard Langer as barely test class at best. But to include Marsh in that company I very much disagree with. I do not see how anyone could rate Marsh as Test quality.

            • November 27th 2012 @ 5:33am
              Johnno said | November 27th 2012 @ 5:33am | ! Report

              So Double Bubble are those test stats that i have given you barley test class mate. Plus the 50 at Adelaide vs west Indies with Ambrose , Walsh,Bishop , in there prime, not good enough. Did you watch that game get a highlights package on youtube or old tv highlights , Ambrose took 10 wickets for the match, especially fired up after Dean Jones rattled him in the ODI finals asking him to take his sweatbands off, it fired Curtley up for the final 2 tests. So to get a 50 when Ambrose was on fire, and Bishop and Walsh bowling beautifully too, is no mean feat. if that’s not considered test class and on debut too, then I don’t know what is.
              Plus 3 double centuries, plus his hundred vs Pakistan at Hobart with Gilchrist to win the series vs a devastating attack too, plus a World class spinner on a spnning day 5 pitch. If you still after all that think justin Langer is barely test class,and all the stats i have put above for you then you really are living life in a bubble , Double Bubble.

      • November 27th 2012 @ 2:03pm
        Duncan Gering said | November 27th 2012 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

        Geoff Marsh – 50 tests 4 centuries avg 33.18 – those figures definitely rank him in the tier below the tier of average players to play for Australia (still much better than me though). Debut in ’85 – scored 3 tons in ’86 and his only other ton in ’89 (in the unbeaten opening stand with Taylor at Trent Bridge if memory serves), final match in ’92. With those figures you’d have to say Border was successful in getting him selected for about 35 more tests than he deserved.
        Dean Jones – I looked up his record and it’s better than I remember (which only indicates that I’m getting on). I’d be prepared to say he was in that next tier of guys even though there’s this nagging suspicion that he wasn’t one to bat Aus out of a crisis. His figures put him ahead of Mark Waugh in many ways, but Waugh did save and win matches for Australia several times and I’d take Waugh over Jones any day (but that’s an argument for another day because Waugh would have to be almost the best example of wasted talent going around). Deano’s 210 was his first century for Aus and I’d argue he never quite hit those heights again (even though he scored 216 against WI at Adelaide – by that time WI had the series won 3-1).
        Justin Langer – maybe in the next tier but I don’t like to admit it. His most prolific year was 2004 in which he scored 1481 runs at 54.85, a top effort. Looking more closely though in those tests he faced the fearsome might of India, Sri Lanka, NZ and Pakistan – look those tests up, none of those teams had what you’d call the most scary of fast men – but I’ll concede, he still had to score the runs. All his top 5 scores came in home tests, and even with that record he averaged less than 50 in at home and barely more than 41 away. Not my favorite to watch and certainly not amongst the best 30 Aussies to ever play the game (in my opinion, for what it’s worth) .
        And so to Hussey – definitely in the next best tier if only for his average and consistency, and before you argue, just look at his stats. Even is his worst year he scored at least one ton. And even though he’s never scored 1000 runs in a calendar year he’s been remarkably consistent with at least fifty runs every 2.3 innings (against Langer 3.4, Jones 3.6 and Marsh 4.9). There’s more but I think it’s an easy sale.

    • November 27th 2012 @ 9:22am
      Rhys said | November 27th 2012 @ 9:22am | ! Report

      Hussey has carved out a very good career from what was a late entry into international cricket. Not many players debut at the age of 29/30 and rack up the kind of numbers that he has.

      He’s probably not up with the likes of the very, very good Hayden, Mark Waugh, Boon types jiust yet, but if Hussey manages to play another couple of years he may well end up sitting very comfortably within that group of very, very good players who sit just outside the top echelon of alltime greats.

      • November 27th 2012 @ 9:59am
        Jason said | November 27th 2012 @ 9:59am | ! Report

        Hopefully Huss will end up with more runs at a better average than that miserable grump Neil Harvey.

    • November 27th 2012 @ 1:52pm
      Nick Inatey said | November 27th 2012 @ 1:52pm | ! Report

      This is ridiculous to think he should be a great. He is a very very good player, but not a great, unless we are seriously expanding the once select group of great players. Hussey has not even come close to dominating overseas…ever. He has 18 test centuries, and just 5 have come overseas. 5. Three of them on batting roads in the subcontinent. Most centuries he has scored here have been on road wickets. Hussey has always found it hard to shake off the flat track bully tag.

      Hussey also has a massive tendency to score centuries in innings where Australia already have set up a massive advantage. I can think of three in the past year (Adelaide just now, Brisbane last week, and in Sydney in January). Each time Clarke had set up the innings with a MASSIVE score and Hussey just padded on with no pressure at all. Hussey has only 2 or 3 times scored centuries when he was against the wall.

      Hussey’s away record against some the better opponents of his era is dreadful. He bats at 31 in England, 32 in South Africa, and a fairly respectable 44 in India. He bats a woeful 39 in the West Indies (where he has the problem on batting on pitches not entirely conducive to batting…SHOCK!) In NZ, again on bowler assisting pitches he only hits at 31, but he has only played 2 matches there so we can give him a little break.

      ‘Great’ batsman dominate most everyone, everywhere, anytime. Thats why they are considered great. Lets keep the fact that Hussey has chipped in a couple of centuries on home soil, after the ground work has been done by other batsman, on pitches offering no assistance to bowlers in perspective please!

    • November 27th 2012 @ 1:54pm
      Nick Inatey said | November 27th 2012 @ 1:54pm | ! Report

      Furthermore, ‘great’ batsman need to be able to hit a double century, the true mark of an unshakeable batsman in a test innings. Hussey’s 195, while very good, doesn’t make the cutoff.

      • November 27th 2012 @ 2:07pm
        Jason said | November 27th 2012 @ 2:07pm | ! Report

        I know you aren’t being serious Nick but for what it’s worth, Herbert Sutcliffe (54 test at an average of over 60; 50,000 First class runs with 151 centuries) never hit a test double ton.

        Until 12 months ago, neither had Kallis.

        • November 27th 2012 @ 3:26pm
          Nick Inatey said | November 27th 2012 @ 3:26pm | ! Report

          Yeah, you’re right…I was only pulling the chain with the double stuff…but I’m quite serious about the first bit I wrote.

          • November 27th 2012 @ 4:04pm
            Jason said | November 27th 2012 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

            I think flat track bully is a bit harsh but I agree, Hussey is short of the “great class”.

    • November 27th 2012 @ 2:00pm
      Pope Paul VII said | November 27th 2012 @ 2:00pm | ! Report

      He’s a great player alright but it bothers me that he hasn’t had a shot at the troublesome no.3 spot. Clarkey and he are being disengenious when they talk about their own excellent form and then lament the troubled top 3 and the alleged lack of door knockers. Punter usually speaks the same language but currently has things to worry about.

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