Despite Messi’s contract extension, loyalty is officially dead in football

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    Football has evolved over the past two decades involving the financial side of the coin, and it continues to do so.

    Nowadays, players have more power and wealth than ever before, which for me is a sign of more negatives than positives for the game.

    Lionel Messi, arguably the best player in the world, has devoted all his life to his childhood club Barcelona in Spain. The club helped him overcome a growth hormone deficiency at 13, paying for his medical treatment. Since then, Messi has given back to them by helping the club win trophies and scoring many goals in the process.

    The contract extension was met with relief among fans, knowing beforehand that there was some doubt over whether he would stay.

    Big spenders Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City offered lucrative bids, which Messi was having second thoughts about. With money the key factor in Messi’s mind at the time, it only shows how times have changed.

    Paolo Maldini. Francesco Totti. Steven Gerrard. Alessandro Del Piero. These were legends that put their childhood clubs before money, because for them it was about representing a club with passion and emotion.

    Juventus’ relegation to Serie B over a decade ago is a great example. Legends such as Del Piero, Buffon and Nedved all chose the colours of black and white before money. Zlatan Ibrahimovic left because of money, taking the easy way out.

    Vincent Kompany and Lionel Messi compete for the ball

    (AAP Image/NEWZULU/MIQUEL LLOP)

    Totti once said, “they taught us in school that family is the most important thing, did you ever hear of someone who left his poor parents to live with rich strangers?.” A quote like this will never be heard of again.

    Loyalty is a thing of the past now, but how did it all come to this?

    1995 is where it all started, with a player named Jean-Marc Bosman who wished to move to another club with his contract expiring. This was overruled by FIFA’s governing body, which is now referred to as a ‘Bosman transfer’ when players leave as free agents.

    Prior to the Bosman ruling, professional clubs in some parts of Europe were able to prevent players from joining a club in another country even if their contracts had expired.

    This has changed the complex of transfer business. Players with one year on their contract for example have the power to force a move away elsewhere as clubs don’t want to lose out on money for the player.

    The mid 2000s came along and it was there where ownership started to be a controlling factor in the world of football.

    Many billionaires have decided to spend crazy amounts of money on clubs with billionaires such as Roman Abramovich of Chelsea, Sheikh Mansour of Manchester City and Nasser Al-Khelaifi of PSG.

    To be fair, the billions being spent have helped those three clubs mentioned win domestic league titles and have helped compete in the Champions League (and so it should), but it doesn’t change the fact that its simply just a game about who can offer the most money, something that in my view shouldn’t be happening.

    UEFA have introduced the Financial Fair Play system where a certain amount of revenue needs to be made by a club in order to spend big, which has resulted in transfer bans to big clubs such as Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid.

    However, these punishments and rule changes are never going to fix the problem completely.

    Every summer transfer window seems to read the headline ‘record transfer fee’. Having a world record fee on your back is hard not to think about as a professional, just ask Paul Pogba.

    After being poorly treated in Manchester, he said in an interview that he never wanted to come back. The Frenchman was considered a flop since his move back to Manchester United for $105 million.

    Paul Pogba wearing the Manchester United 6 shirt

    (Supplied)

    This market inflation doesn’t do any favours for any players. Just let them be and get on with the game. Ridiculous amounts of money shouldn’t be needed.

    Agents are a nightmare in the modern game. They are now able to control their clients futures simply for their own benefits of earning as much money as possible.

    Mino Raiola is a real culprit of this. He was able to pocket $27 million of the transfer money for Paul Pogba’s move from Juventus to Manchester United.

    Just recently, young teenage goalkeeper Gianluigi Donnarumma stated that he wanted to stay at AC Milan for life and be captain one day because he was a supporter growing up. He refused a $6 million contract extension, simply because he had Raiola whispering in his ear encouraging him to move to Real Madrid or PSG because of the promise of more money.

    That money being spent on already rich agents should be going towards better causes such as the grassroots setup at youth academies.

    It sums up what is wrong with modern day football.

    I understand that large amounts of money being thrown around can help small clubs kick on and create a healthy economy in world football, but don’t expect loyalty to appear at your favourite club.

    Unfortunately, Messi’s attachment to one club will most definitely be the last we witness.

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    • July 9th 2017 @ 10:55am
      Nemesis said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:55am | ! Report

      “FIFA, allowed clubs to run roughshod over the rights of players to exercise free choice”

      This still happens in many sporting competitions. In Australia some sports have a Draft system. This means players are not allowed to choose their employer they must go where they are told. The stand in line at an auction & potential “massas” prod & poke them (literally & figuratively) to accept or reject them.

      How archaic is that? In some sporting competitions in Australia, a restricted form of free agency has begrudgingly been allowed.

      Some sporting competitions are less advanced than others.

      • July 9th 2017 @ 11:15am
        jeff dustby said | July 9th 2017 @ 11:15am | ! Report

        the 4 biggest sports in the USA use drafts

        • July 9th 2017 @ 11:22am
          Nemesis said | July 9th 2017 @ 11:22am | ! Report

          Well, the USA were big fans of the “massa” employment system.

          • July 9th 2017 @ 12:54pm
            northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

            Yup, the US uses a draft system. Play for the team that drafted you, or don’t play (sometimes you can force a trade, but it’s rare. Although, oddly enough, I can think of a couple of high NFL draft picks that chose not to sign a rookie contract: they went to play in the CFL instead for a few years. ) Anyway, sometimes the drafted player stays loyal to the team after his rookie contract finishes, sometimes he moves on.

            But at least in the US and in the AFL, the initial contract always has a time limit. In European football, pre Bosman, not so much. That was the problem: that the clubs were demanding exorbitant transfer fees for players not contracted to them, thus forcing the players either to give up football or continue playing for much smaller wages for the parent club. Rookies drafted to the big American leagues do not have a choice about which club they sign with in the first instance, but they at least have a contract that has some meaning, and an expiry date, and no transfer fees once they’re free agents.

            But in either situation, I wouldn’t expect lifelong loyalty to the club: pro sports, whether American or European, are businesses looking at the bottom line, they’re ruthless, and the players are just pawns in a bigger game. Whether it’s a rookie draft or an academy demanding exorbitant development fees for it young players to switch clubs, or a club simply selling a player to make money, there’s not a whole lot of loyalty anywhere so for the author to expect loyalty from the players is, I think, quite naive. If a player wants to use leverage to force a trade or a better contract so be it. They don’t have a long playing life, after all.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 11:55am
          Waz said | July 9th 2017 @ 11:55am | ! Report

          C’mon Jeff, lets treat this article with the little respect it deserves and not too seriously.

          If you finished university and the first job you got was not by your choice but you were drafted somewhere I don’t think you’d be too thrilled. The draft system is a quirky gimmick we accept in sport but we wouldn’t acceot in life. Imagine turning up to work tomorrow and being told you were the 39th pick in the draft and next season you’ll be working in Broom for a competitor now please take your kids out of school, pack up your home and move across the country lol

          The contract system in football is st least fair and reasonable and mirrors what we would expect to see in our daily working lives. Loyalty extends only to the duration of the mutually agreed contract and no further.

          • July 9th 2017 @ 12:09pm
            Swanny said | July 9th 2017 @ 12:09pm | ! Report

            The draft in sports like afl is undoubtedly a restriction of trade . But as a 17 year old footballer, they are guaranteed usually a 2-3 year contract on good money with opportunities to move on after that contract .
            The draft is really a good paying apprenticeship and no one can make u sign the contract or make u go in the draft in the first place
            Not a perfect system but not bad either

            • July 9th 2017 @ 12:23pm
              Waz said | July 9th 2017 @ 12:23pm | ! Report

              I can live with the draft as it’s a question for the players involved, if it’s acceptable to them then fine and if not they can change it. I would not support its introduction into football though.

    • July 9th 2017 @ 12:43pm
      greenbridge1930 said | July 9th 2017 @ 12:43pm | ! Report

      You clearly have no idea what you are talking about when you don’t even understand the basic concepts of contracts. Not surprising as you look about 13 in your photo.

      Players are free to move if they feel they another club is willing to pay for their services. After all a football career could end tomorrow with a serious injury.

      When you finish high school you will realise it is unrealistic to stay with the same company or business for life.

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        July 9th 2017 @ 5:42pm
        andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 5:42pm | ! Report

        I’m not saying every single player in the world has to stay at the club they started off with!
        Money shouldn’t be the factor that determines whether you stay or move.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 7:27pm
          northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:27pm | ! Report

          Money shouldn’t be the factor? why not, Christian?

          You’ve written several articles full of motherhood statements and I respect you for having a go, but there’s not a lot of hard analysis in what you write. You need to back up all these “feel good” statements with actual facts and/or arguments. so I’m asking you now to explain why money shouldn’t be a factor for football players, when it is for the rest of us.

          • July 9th 2017 @ 7:32pm
            Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:32pm | ! Report

            I have asked Christian in previous articles to justify his otherwise ridiculous statements and resorts to insults. He fails to understand why he has to provide evidence to back his statements which explains a lot about himself.

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            July 9th 2017 @ 8:53pm
            andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:53pm | ! Report

            Because if money is the main reason why players move, they don’t play for the shirt, they don’t play with passion that the fans want to see.
            Players are earning enough money as it is, so I hate it when people come out and start the argument of “they have to provide for their families.”

            • July 9th 2017 @ 9:23pm
              Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:23pm | ! Report

              “”Players are earning enough money as it is, so I hate it when people come out and start the argument of “they have to provide for their families.””

              So you know the hardships experienced by these young players from less than privileged background of yours? You ever lived in the slums of Argentina or Nigeria? You live off scraps of food while your parents starve? You know the sacrifices these young men have to make to become professional?

              Hearing players like the late Cheick Tiote providing for his extended family of 30-40 people is not uncommon.

              Even Cahill used his first salary to pay back his brother (who quit school to fund Cahill’s trip to England) and his family to afford their first house. And this is in Australia. Imagine what it’s like in a third world country.

              Can you blame them for trying to get the best salary. A lot of these guys have no education or qualification to fall back on, it is a short career.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 7:30pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:30pm | ! Report

          “”Money shouldn’t be the factor that determines whether you stay or move.””

          What about employees of poor backgrounds or immigrants providing care for their family back home.

          Would you tell them off for changing jobs for more money?

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            July 9th 2017 @ 8:57pm
            andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:57pm | ! Report

            Shaza, I’ll put it this way…

            I’m a big fan of Milan.
            I start at their youth academy at the age of 5 and work my way up to the senior team as a teenager.
            I’m earning $100 000 a week
            The Chinese Super League comes along and offers me a contract of $500 000 a week.
            I would never go, because I want to play for the club I supported since I was a kid, not some random team in China.

            This is what I’m talking about, when I say loyalty is dead in football

            • July 9th 2017 @ 9:12pm
              Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:12pm | ! Report

              Following players signed with Chinese Super League clubs in 2015/2016 season, more than two seasons ago

              Alex Witsel signed with Tianjin Quanjian
              Alex Texeira and Ramires signed with Jiangsu Suning
              Demba Ba signed with Shanghai Shenhua
              Paulinho signed with Guangzhou Evergrande

              Why is loyalty in football now “OFFICIALLY” dead due to Messi hesitating his new contract with Barcelona ahead of the 2017/2018 season.

              As the first poster stated earlier today: Loyalty died a LONG TIME ago. I’m confused why you have come to the conclusion today when it died long before China became wealthy.

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                July 9th 2017 @ 9:53pm
                andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:53pm | ! Report

                Well loyalty didn’t die a long time ago because legends such as Gerrard, Totti, Maldini, Del Piero, Terry and many more were loyal even though they were offered large amounts of money

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                July 9th 2017 @ 9:54pm
                andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:54pm | ! Report

                Those legends staying at one club will never be witnessed again. It’s basically an end of an era in that regard

              • July 9th 2017 @ 10:00pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:00pm | ! Report

                So loyalty did not die a long time ago even though HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of players have been leaving their boyhood clubs and changing clubs like there was no tomorrow…. just because half dozen players stayed at their clubs? Care to elaborate on the “many more” please?

            • July 9th 2017 @ 9:16pm
              Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:16pm | ! Report

              Every year dozens of young teenagers from South America and Africa are snapped up by the academies across Europe. Some of these academies are what you would call ‘world class’ Real Madrid, Manchester United and Chelsea etc.

              But there are many more clubs in less glamorous leagues in Europe who ALSO sign teenagers from these continents. Clubs in Austria, Poland and Turkey etc. These teenagers were brought up by South American and African clubs since they were children.

              How is this different to the conduct of some “random team in China”?

              • July 9th 2017 @ 9:25pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:25pm | ! Report

                I understand if you started following football only two or three seasons ago.

              • July 9th 2017 @ 9:34pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:34pm | ! Report

                So to all the impoverished footballers in slums you would say to their face

                “”Money shouldn’t be the factor that determines whether you stay or move.””

                Really???

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                July 9th 2017 @ 9:57pm
                andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:57pm | ! Report

                Shaza

                I’m not talking about small clubs. If you’re on a small wage then that’s fair enough. My problem is when players are at big clubs like the ones you mentioned and are being paid well only to leave for even more money.
                So come on, don’t bring poor people from Africa into this

              • July 9th 2017 @ 10:05pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:05pm | ! Report

                “”If it was my dream job and I decided to move jobs because of better pay then I think it isn’t right. (Especially if I don’t enjoy the job offered to me)””

                So what, the above does not apply if you play for a small club? You don’t even care to think about the small clubs yet make sweeping generalisations about “Messi will be the last one club player”

            • July 10th 2017 @ 2:56am
              Mad Dog said | July 10th 2017 @ 2:56am | ! Report

              I bet if someone put the cash on the table and one stack was 5 times as big your story would change

        • July 9th 2017 @ 7:57pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:57pm | ! Report

          Your ass must be jealous with the amount of crap coming out of your mouth

    • July 9th 2017 @ 6:44pm
      tooreal said | July 9th 2017 @ 6:44pm | ! Report

      Europeans never cared about “loyality” in Football. I grew up there. Nobody ever cared about it. You are speaking from an Aussie eggbal’s mind of view.

      If you are down under you shouldn’t tell the Europeans how to run Football. It’s as foolish as it would be for Arabs to tell the eskimos how to build igloos. You can always go back to eggball.

    • July 9th 2017 @ 6:45pm
      Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 6:45pm | ! Report

      Christian you numpty. Another woeful effort. Reading the comments, many are not even expecting much with your rubbish.

      Like others have already commented (and you have failed to address) why does football loyalty DIE when Messi resigns with Barcelona when COUNTLESS other players have left their boyhood clubs?

      Why are you having an epiphany now that money rules in football? Why must footballers be different to other employees.

      Money is everything whether you like it or not. Nearly everyone will take their services to another employer offering a larger salary.

      Not to mention you have made some embarrassing errors which you have failed to address.

      Have you ever worked?

      • July 9th 2017 @ 7:00pm
        Nemesis said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

        “Nearly everyone will take their services to another employer offering a larger salary. ”

        That’s certainly what rational people do.

        But, apparently, the best athletes in Australia prefer to not do this. They’d rather be paid lower wages playing Aussie Rules than earning bigger money playing: Gridiron, Basketball, Baseball, Football.

        Apparently the best AFL athletes are faster than Usain Bolt, have more stamina than Mo Farah, and better swimmers than Michael Phelps.. but they choose to play Aussie Rules which pays them a fraction of the wage they’d earn in other sports… if they are, indeed, world class athletes.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 8:12pm
          northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:12pm | ! Report

          Nemesis: I’m actually beginning to feel a bit sorry for you. It all seems to be about money for you, and not love of the job or the sport.

          Sometimes people choose career paths because they actually enjoy the job or the game. I know people who could have made much more money in the corporate world, but preferred academia or the independence of running a business of their own. And I know or know of sportsmen and women with great athletic gifts who simply enjoyed playing one sport more than another. Not everything in this world is about dollars.

          • July 9th 2017 @ 8:21pm
            Nemesis said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:21pm | ! Report

            If you choose a career path that’s lower paying, fine. I’ve no issue with that.

            But, then don’t say “I could’ve been the best in the higher paying job if I had chosen it.”

            No you couldn’t. To be the best in the higher paying job requires the mental focus to be the best in the higher paying job & you didn’t have the mental focus to do that.

            As long as I read nonsense about “AFL players could’ve been world class footballers; or world class tennis players, or world class NFL players”, I’ll keep exposing the nonsense behind this hypothesis.

            • July 9th 2017 @ 9:24pm
              northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:24pm | ! Report

              Who exactly said “I could’ve been the best in the higher paying job if I had chosen it.” Maybe Nick Kyrgios. Not any AFL player I’ve heard of. They’re all about their own sport, their direct competition, comparing like with like. I really doubt Buddy would be arguing that he could walk into a gig with Real Madrid or the New York Yankees. He does what he does, and he’s very good at it. Just like Messi is very good at what he does, but I doubt he thinks he could beat Federer or Nadal on a tennis court.

              And the claim about mental focus is just weird. Are you actually trying to argue that the focus required to play some other sport at a championship level is less than the focus required to play football simply because the other sportsman earns less? Really? A neurosurgeon earns less than Messi, but I’m going to bet his focus is at least as good.

              This is straw man nonsense, pure and simple. You’re arguing about something that few people are claiming, certainly not the actually sportsmen. It’s impossible to compare athletes in different sports and say, yep, this one is the greatest of all time. Different skill requirements, different aerobic requirements, different power requirements, different agility requirements. We can get into lightweight froth about who’s the greatest Australian athlete and come up with about 30 names with a legitimate claim to that title, from a whole range of sports. None of it is quantifiable or provable. So all your huff and puff is about debunking a hypothesis that no one is seriously putting forward.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 9:58am
                Nemesis said | July 10th 2017 @ 9:58am | ! Report

                The AFL community (media & fans) regularly make the claim “if AFL players played football, Australia would dominate The Game”. It’s utter nonsense.

                I’ve never heard any footballer ever suggest that he could’ve been a world class golfer, or tennis player, or swimmer, etc. etc.

                Only the AFL community like to suggest their players are the best athletes in Australia and those allegedly best athletes would dominate the Summer Olympics, the Fifa WC, the NFL, the NBA, etc if they had chosen those sports..

                My comment about mental focus refers to the fact that elite sports people who compete in global sports need more than technical ability. The majority need to leave the security of home family & friends at a young age, move to a different culture & work.

                AFL players get homesick when they move interstate. Same country. Same culture. Same language. Same currency. But, they don’t have the mental toughness to focus on the job, they give up & want to come home.

                At the most extreme, the life of the young tennis player must be the most mentally challenging in global sport. From mid teens you’re living out of a suitcase. That requires a mental toughness that’s beyond anything faced by those playing domestic club sports.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 10:34am
                Casper said | July 10th 2017 @ 10:34am | ! Report

                Daley Thompson said that Nick Reiwoldt could have been a 400m Olympian. Pat Cash said that if a 5 year old Buddy Franklin had started playing tennis instead, he could have been a Wimbledon champion.

                It’s not people from the AFL community pumping their tyres.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 10:48am
                Nemesis said | July 10th 2017 @ 10:48am | ! Report

                1) Well, one thing for sure Nick Reiwoldt should’ve stuck to sport that didn’t require kicking a ball with any accuracy

                2) Maybe Franklin could’ve have achieved technical proficiency in tennis. From the evidence we have, Franklin has issues that indicate he would struggle with the mental rigours required for professional tennis.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 11:21am
                northerner said | July 10th 2017 @ 11:21am | ! Report

                Nemesis: that comment about Franklin was appalling, unforgiveable in fact. This is the 21st century and most educated people understand that mental illness is an illness, not a weakness of character.

                Maybe it’s time you went Back to Where You Came From – which appears to be the 1950s.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 11:48am
                Nemesis said | July 10th 2017 @ 11:48am | ! Report

                @northerner

                Stop being precious. Mental toughness is just as important for success in professional sport as physical toughness.

                People have no problem calling players physically “soft”.
                We should have no problem calling a player mentally soft.

                It’s not opinion, it’s medical fact that has been verified by the player.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 12:12pm
                northerner said | July 10th 2017 @ 12:12pm | ! Report

                Unbelievable. Having a mental illness is not being “mentally soft” any more than getting cancer is being “physically soft.” They’re illnesses, not character flaws.

                Like I said, Nemesis. You and your attitudes belong to a previous century. I expect you’d have been one of those cheering on the execution of shell-shocked soldiers for “lacking moral fiber” if you’d been around in 1917.

                One last time: mental illness is not a weakness, it’s an illness. And it is one that people can and do recover from. It has nothing to do with one’s quality as a person or a sportsman. There is nothing further to be said about ignorance such as yours.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 12:27pm
                Nemesis said | July 10th 2017 @ 12:27pm | ! Report

                I never said it wasn’t an illness.

                A physical illness will prevent a person from maintaining peak physical conditioning.
                A mental illness will prevent a person from maintaining peak mental conditioning.

                If my body is prone to breaking under stress, it will impede my performance as a professional athlete.

                If my mind is prone to breaking under stress, it will impeded my performance as a professional athlete.

                If you can’t handle this truth, then that’s too bad.

              • July 10th 2017 @ 2:13pm
                northerner said | July 10th 2017 @ 2:13pm | ! Report

                Nemesis: I quote – ” People have no problem calling players physically “soft”.
                We should have no problem calling a player mentally soft. ”

                Yes, we damn well should have a problem calling someone with a mental illness “soft.”

                People will call a player physically soft if he has the ability to become stronger or better, but is too lazy to make the effort. People, or at least those who aren’t sociopaths, do not call a player physically soft when he contracts an injury or illness that prevents him from playing.

                Yet you feel fine calling people mentally soft if they have an illness that prevents them from playing, temporarily or permanently, when you would never consider it if it were an ankle or knee injury that was at issue.

                You are utterly ignorant on this issue. Educate yourself. And move on into the 21st century with the rest of us.

              • July 11th 2017 @ 3:23pm
                clipper said | July 11th 2017 @ 3:23pm | ! Report

                northerner – I understand the point Nemesis was making in regard to tennis, just think he didn’t phrase it the best. Unfortunately, being mostly an individual sport, it is a lot tougher to maintain your peak in tennis, where most players are pretty close, that to lose focus would give an opponent the edge.

              • July 11th 2017 @ 7:44pm
                northerner said | July 11th 2017 @ 7:44pm | ! Report

                @Clipper – sorry, but have to disagree with you on this. Very strongly. This is an issue that actually matters.

                Nemesis was very clear – he was obviously referring to Buddy’s break from the game because of mental health issues and using it as to support his argument about those who are “mentally soft.” And I find that repugnant.

                Lots of players in lots of sports take breaks because of physical issues, and mental health issues are no different. Would you claim that Nadal is “physically soft” because he’s had to take a number of the breaks from the game due to injury? I doubt it. Is a football player “soft” if the gets a serious knee or ankle injury that requires reconstruction? Nope. But getting a mental illness is being “soft.” Nope, it isn’t. And it’s time fans started to understand what the sporting world (all codes) is coming to grips with. Mental illness is an illness and it can happen to anyone, anytime – just like a torn muscle or a concussion. It is not being “soft” or “flabby.” It is an illness, not a weakness.

                I stand by that.

              • July 12th 2017 @ 10:30am
                clipper said | July 12th 2017 @ 10:30am | ! Report

                Notherner – I absolutely get the point – this is why I though Nemesis could’ve phrased it better and I was giving him a bit of leeway. Nadal would be an exception in the tennis world – such is his skill and determination that the injuries haven’t stopped him from getting, so far, 15 GS. However, other players, like Philloposus, Mecir, Soderling have had their careers curtailed because of them – whether physical or mental, they can really impact on how well you do overall. It is quite amazing, like Nadal, how well Buddy has performed and come back after his illness.

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        July 9th 2017 @ 7:00pm
        andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:00pm | ! Report

        Oh no not shaza!

        Messi is the last big name player which has stuck by his boyhood club.
        He will be the last big name player which doesn’t move for money.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 7:08pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:08pm | ! Report

          “”Messi is the last big name player which has stuck by his boyhood club.
          He will be the last big name player which doesn’t move for money.””

          Oh so now you have changed your stance from “Messi will be the last one club man” to “Messi will be the last BIG NAME player which doesn’t move for money?”

          Do you talk to Messi on first name basis? Does every “big name” player (How to define “big name player???) tell you why they resigned or declined a new contract? Are you a super agent like Mr Raiola or just a stupid wannabe writer.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 7:13pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:13pm | ! Report

          How do you define big name player by the way. With glory hunting fanboys like limited brain capacity I guess only names like Messi, Ronaldo, Pogba etc register with you.

          You just told me Saul Niguez resigning with Atletico for 9 years means nothing now.

          Yet you think Messi (Who is still only 30 years of age) will not sign for another club when his services are no longer required at Barcelona.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 8:15pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:15pm | ! Report

          Also nice to see you removed your expletive-filled insults from your most recent article. Attaboy

      • July 9th 2017 @ 7:09pm
        Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 7:09pm | ! Report

        Christian is not sounding like a very rational person

        • July 9th 2017 @ 8:17pm
          northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:17pm | ! Report

          That’s okay. Neither are you.

          • July 9th 2017 @ 8:18pm
            Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 8:18pm | ! Report

            Really? And why is that? Christian has not answered or addressed anything by the numerous posters here. He simply opens his mouth to talk non sense without backing them up

            • July 9th 2017 @ 9:10pm
              northerner said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:10pm | ! Report

              I’m not saying Christian’s articles are all that well substantiated, but neither are your criticisms. Insult is not evidence.

              • July 9th 2017 @ 9:45pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:45pm | ! Report

                Tell that to Christian who called me all sorts of expletives in his other article which later was removed from the website.

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                July 9th 2017 @ 10:00pm
                andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:00pm | ! Report

                Those insults were well deserved. You go on about how I’m writing these articles for reads/comments/attention but yet you’re saying the most ???

              • July 9th 2017 @ 10:02pm
                Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:02pm | ! Report

                It’s nice seeing how thick you are though. You keep making up criteria whenever anyone questions your statements.

                “Oh no I meant to say this…”

                “Oh no but the players you named are not world class, they do not count”

    • July 9th 2017 @ 9:41pm
      Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 9:41pm | ! Report

      To summarise Christian loyalty in football is ONLY DEAD when a WORLD CLASS player leaves his boyhood club?

      Typical fanboy

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        July 9th 2017 @ 10:03pm
        andresilva10 said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:03pm | ! Report

        Yep, sorry I don’t follow the Saudi league or whatever you follow

        • July 9th 2017 @ 10:04pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:04pm | ! Report

          Where did you get Saudi Arabia from? Again you fail to answer anyone’s questions on your pathetic post. You really are stupid.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 10:07pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:07pm | ! Report

          Did you even realise that you incorrectly defined the Bosman rule? Or you choose to ignore when people criticise or correct you and pretend you are a know it all.

        • July 9th 2017 @ 10:13pm
          Al-Shazahd said | July 9th 2017 @ 10:13pm | ! Report

          “Saudi Arabia”? Nice try at being funny you numpty

    • July 10th 2017 @ 1:01am
      marcel said | July 10th 2017 @ 1:01am | ! Report

      So Christian, does this mean you will be staying at McDonald’s for the rest of your life?

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