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play on like last year? you mean when he had a contract? (and more than honoured it)
Next year he doesnt so why would he play on for geelong? for a club that helped prevent him returning home despite not being contracted to them?
sorry but thats just deluded.
nah if he can just avoid the draft and play for an afl club then it would obviously be WCE which is why i wondered if anyone actually knew how the mechanics would play out. seems like alot of it is just taken in good faith and noone especially the clubs want to rock the apple cart.
It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast
WCE are taking advantage??? they havnt even done anything yet!
Anyway depends on your point of view on whats fair- whichever clubs are involved aside you are either looking from the point of view of the employee or the employer for “fairness”. We arent the judges of this but a quick google says the AFL free agency and draft would likely not stand up in court if tested which will happen one day i suppose.
For the sheer entertainment value i hope its kelly vs geelong as they do appear pretty recalcitrant at least publicly.
It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast
looked up the defo of a free agent and come the draft thats exactly what he is if his contract expires at that point so i guess the question is does he have to go in a draft to continue to be an afl player or can he just sign a contract with whoever as a free agent?
It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast
Thanks but that doesnt actually explain it either. so at the start of the draft kelly is free to do as he pleases ie he has no contract at that point right? He can go in the draft and wind up wherever or he can stay out of the draft and sign a contract with wce after the draft.
Unless kelly is forced to go in the draft (which i dont think is the case) I dont see how geelong has any real bargaining power if push comes to shove….
what am i missing? some kind of restraint of trade clause from the AFL?
It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast
So can someone explain why an out of contract player has to be traded?
I dont follow all the nuances of trade period but no one seems to have explained why, if a deal cant be done fairly, kelly cant just not nominate for the draft and then negotiate a contract with WCE afterwards…
It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast
yeah the massive dummy spits not just from the manager but GWS CEO as well is pretty hilarious actually. Apparently if toby was collingwood he would have gotten off. In fact hes basically saying the MRO were manipulating the outcomes with an eye on benefiting collingwood! great dummy spit. how is this guy a CEO actually?
Not normally on the Pies but i will be this weekend. Smash em!
Still suspended: AFL appeal denies Toby Greene
Contrasting the way this grub handles himself at the tribunal vs Hawkins is pretty telling. Both are guilty but one took the adverse result on the chin and said he got a fair hearing while the other lies his way through the hearing with simply incredulous assertions of reaching for the ball etc and then appeals.
Hope they double it on appeal and the giants play cats in the big one with toby on the sidelines while Tom kicks a bag. That would be sweet to see!
AFL Tribunal upholds Toby Greene ban
This rioli fiasco will either galvanise the west coast playing group against the world like last year or put a few key players off their game.
The indigenous boys in particular are a tight knit group so would t be surprised at all if jetta and ryan are off their game tonite. Ryan might even wind up at the tribunal next week if provoked who knows
Geelong Cats vs West Coast Eagles: AFL semi-final forecast
Yeah the timing is pretty interesting isn’t it?
Yet again footy fans are treated like mushrooms by the afl. There are some valid questions there that could be answered but won’t be. Like why did it take till the eve of a knock out final for this to go public?
Just what is the Asada process that means it takes 3 weeks for provisional findings to come out?
That one at least should be explained to shut down the conspiracy theorists out there!
A relatively minor impact from a suspension has been turned into a potentially much more significant one by the very late timing.
Why?
Geelong Cats vs West Coast Eagles: AFL semi-final forecast
Yes agree – cause and effect
cause? near constant rule changes and “reinterpretations” leading to regular frustration on and off field
effect – increasingly agitated crowds
good old afl treats the effect since they are the cause and cant treat themselves.
this lot need to go…
Make the AFL a safer place for everyone
why would he? hmm lets see
1. hes got some unfinished business from the western farce
2. Hes a devout christian and may have some issues of principal he would like to see tested
3. money is like sand to the guy (or more accurately red dirt)
4. could add a marque player to his comp with more to follow
just for starters
How would a Folau legal challenge affect RA?
I reckon a more likely scenario for twiggy now that you mention him is he helps fund IFs case if needed.
How would a Folau legal challenge affect RA?
yep thats the trouble with putting too much faith in what you read on social media – you start to believe its the majority view when in fact its just the noisy minority. Just ask labor eh? It deludes you into thinking this has not damaged the brand when in fact it has.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
you would be wrong then
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
yep you prove my point. no facts just outrage! outrage! outrage!
dont you get tired of it?
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
it wasnt hate speech. i dont think you have any clue what that actually is but you are not alone
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
Your delusional – the wallabies brand is badly tarnished come what may now. What new sponsor would want to get involved in a high profile freedom of religion/ speech/ defamation/ wrongful dismissal whatever trial that will drag on on top of what will no doubt be an insipid RWC campaign?
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
No regardless of outcome this has been handled incredibly badly from an administration perspective – the loss of reputation, staff morale, real risk of bankruptcy from litigation, impact on RWC performance, premature actions by key staff, trial by media etc etc.
But yes it is interesting that if you think this has been a good outcome you do tend to think it has been handled well. That is funny.
Trouble is we are not anywhere near the outcome stage yet so still lots of time to agree with me on the mismanagement.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
what amazes me is its not even capitulation. its being done to cheers.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
yes hes on “a mission from god” to quote the blues brothers. thats why he didnt settle when RA tried to go into damage control knowing they had gone too far. theres no turning back now, so stupid.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
yes even if the sponsor was of lower value. Clearly.
Less revenue is better than bankruptcy and massive reputational damage.
This will be an MBA case study for years to come.
And hopefully also a high court precedent protecting employees rights.
RA will try and settle but IF and his backers will want the ruling.
Its laughable how poorly this has been handled. really.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
Well its a free market sponsors can move on and be replaced if they really were that intransigent (im not sure that they were btw). Changing sponsors would have been a far far better result than where things are now with lengthy court cases, and quite possibly bankruptcy for RA. The tail wagged the dog.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
My what a good worker bee you are. You would have done well under socialism.
Nah when I clock off my life is my own and I hope the high court will eventually agree and stop all this nonsense about your employer controlling and or being responsible for what you do outside work.
Folau's contract officially torn up by RA, but court challenge looms likely
Thanks COB you just made a pretty one sided game worth watching aye!
Crow Reilly O'Brien accidentally tweets secret plans for Nic Nat