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I would check your sources there Karlos, everything i have read says 1858.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
Canberra has a strong history with the Australian game, and i do know a bit about the footbal scene there, and IMO Canberra fans are sceptical and indifferent about GWS.
GWS is not a good fit for Canberra, but the local scene is bigger at senior level than the Sydney football comp, and at senior level a lot more money is available, this is what GWS is attempting to use/tap into, and i dont think it will work, although a local talent academy that GWS will set up is a very good idea.
AFL games get pretty good crowds in Canberra, around 12-14k, which is a sign the support is their, but it is a very big stretch to combine GWS with a ACT team.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
i disagree that Australian football fans are desperate to prove their code is the oldest, most Australian football fans would not have a clue, but it does appears from your posts that you are desperate to prove them wrong…..Why ?.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
This is what the Australian football haters would have you believe, if you are not in Sydney you are just camping out !!.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
Funny you should mention that, magpies are indigenous but rabbits clearly are not .
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
What is really indigenous, you are aware that several waves of immigrants came through the top end of Australia over 1000’s of years, they did not look the same or spoke the same language or had the same customs, but we now call them all “indigenous Australians “, there were pygmy tribes in QLD, and distinctly different looking tribes from Tasmania, the desert men from central Australia etc etc etc
The game of Australian football IMO took a bit from several cultures being Aboriginal, local born Australian, imported Irish and English and came up with a distinctly Australian indigenous football game …… pretty simple really.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian
Of course they are, they do not know any difference.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
I would dispute that 54% of the country know nothing about Australian football, everyone has heard of it, some people like it, some love it, some hate it and some are indifferent, but the key here is choice, we have plenty of it, and more power to a market that has choice.
Unlike of course many countries that have a bland choice of one football code and that is it, it appears that is what you want, how is that fun.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
You are right we are better off all eating maccas, rather than Balmain Bugs or Pavlova or chicco rolls.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
Yes, but the point is that you do know, the Federal sports minister does not !!.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
I will watch hockey, but if someone asked me how many players on a hockey field, it would be a rough guess, ……. 11 ?.
Sports ministers should have a great across the board knowledge of all sports and in particular the main ones in this country, definitely the popular ones and IMO our national football code.
Even i know and most sports fans know league is 13 Union is 15.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
The biggest factor of course is the care factor, i am aware that their are 2 rugby codes, but even people who follow sport may just not care, that does not make them stupid.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
Dont you mean Victorians, Tasmanians , South Australian and West Australians, and possibly many people from the northern states who have no interest in sport.
It is not a crime to not know that their are two rugby’s, is it up to people to find out !, or is it up to the sporting comps to get their message out.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
I would love to see Tonga V Samoa playing Australian football, and it has happened recently.
If i was a league fan and in Sydney, i would take a squiz for sure.
http://www.worldfootynews.com/mediagallery/media.php?s=20100118234035997
Did the ARL spit the dummy over Folau?
Brissie Kid said
“Unlike AFL fans beaver fever we in league are able to form our own opinion”.
Of course !!, i really hope that you dont really believe what you wrote, because if you do, then it’s pointless discussing anything with you, pretty immature comment.
I think the evidence shows that Australian football took some rules from rugby, and probably several other types of folk football that were played at the time, BTW read this below : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wills
There is no evidence that Wills played Marn Grook, an Aboriginal game alleged to have similar rules to the first football codes with members of a nearby community as a boy; however, the connection may have had some influence. He spoke the language of the people with whom he grew up, the Djab wurrung, knew their dances, and the first games he played were with local Aboriginal children.[4] Due to his family’s extensive interaction with local aborigines, it is assumed that he would have at the very least seen the game being played and some believe this may have had an influence on his rules for Australian Football.
Wills was the grandson of a man sent to Sydney from England for highway robbery, and this convict heritage had a strong bearing on his life. Wills was a strong advocate for the rights of free settlers and “emancipated convicts” (those who had proven their worth to society).[7] The Melbourne Cricket Club, like many institutions of high society, was known to discriminate against the “Convict Stain”.[8][9] An achievement of his advocacy, was his own admission as a high-ranking member of the MCC, despite his convict heritage.
It appears to me that the guy although educated in England for 6 years was quite Australian in his outlook and no doubt determined that we have a game of our own, what is your difficulty in understanding that ?.
Why dont you ask the million or so poms living in Australia if Australian football is a English game, because if we go down your track, isn’t soccer a Chinese game !!.
Jurrah stars as Demons win in Shanghai
Yes i am from Perth, and i know a few force members and without fail, they are saffa, kiwis, poms and eastern staters, i am sure their are born and bred sandgropers amongst their membership base, but i dont know any
Having said that, IMO graqss roots RU is a mile in front of the local RL in this town and the local RU comp is a mile in front of Adelaide and maybe stronger than Melbournes.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
Well said MF, everything is built from a previos idea, no-one is claiming the reinvention of the wheel, but without doubt the game was born of this country, by men both Australian and UK born.
Jurrah stars as Demons win in Shanghai
Art Sapphire said | Today How many families have 4 kids.
Raises hand, there are a few around. and lets face it, if you dont have 4 kids, they can bring some mates, the 2 adults 2 kids memberships were never good for us.
What A-League doom and gloom?
You are correct, some of the Asian teams are full of expats, similar to plenty of rugby and soccer teams here, but in different parts of the world, primarlly, South Pacific, America and Europe, South Africa the teams have very few expats in compaison.
Jurrah stars as Demons win in Shanghai
http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20101019151240966
Another story about the AFL promoting Australian football around the Pacific Islands and Poly communities , although are Fijians polynesians or melanesians ?, at any rate the David Rodan cup is currently getting underway in Fiji.
The Western Bulldogs did have a couple of Fiji kids on their books, is that still happening ?.
Did the ARL spit the dummy over Folau?
I reckon your post is pretty well spot on, but question the storms average of 21 k at home, that does not sound right to me.
Perth is in the same boat, the vast majority of force fans are Saffas, and Kiwis, with some poms thrown in.
The Storm and Rebels: going head-to-head
Who is better looking though ……. Folau or Ling, both have heads good for radio.
Did the ARL spit the dummy over Folau?
Ken said AFL has nothing to do with the place I grew up or the place I live now.
You mean it has nothing to do with you !!, there is a big difference, i find it very difficult to believe that any big population center in this country has nothing to do with Austrlian football.
AFL is not indigenous but uniquely Australian