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Did you scream that put when the Chiefs maul was sacked by the Brumbies.. I think you and others with you could do with understanding how a maul can be legally stopped and actually watch the game rather than just shouting at the tv… just a thought. I thought it waa reasonable and legit and assumed the ref had a better view of it to call it. I will go back and replay it and come back to you if you are genuinely interested. Especially now I know how much stock you put into the stan sport commentary and their innate understanding of the rules.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Really.. mind sharing a link to one of these articles on The stuff or the general news where they are now sharing views on a referee before the whistle is blown..
I can point to a number of negative comments about Nick Berry from Australians if you would like.
But that aside, was has that got to do with Hollands comments as opposed to Larkhams, which is what we are talking about not peoples obsession (ypurs included) with refs.
Yours is normally the first comment on live commentary bemoaning a ref devision you tbi k tbey got wrong and you do continue with it to the final whistle. You do comment on it in general articles… tell me what is personal in pointing that out.. it is simply true

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

I agree its like a virus. And nobody is immune. Cold showers for all I suggest.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Not talking about Ardies comment, talking about Hollands which didnt come to the fore only after he doubled down on it as you are suggesting. If you read through the posts on the article you linked I think it was you can see it for yourself… or not if you would rather pursue the narrative it only got comment post Holland doubling down. My internet is dropping out else i woukf look it up and link it especially for you 😊

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Ken, you can’t say you win after I said you win… geez you are annoying 😊 nor does everything need to be about winning and losing..
I justvdon’t agree that generalisations that appear all encompassing but actually refer to the majority of posts and comments, which most can understand and interpret make the point being made a strawman. I build strawmen all the time as a solution architect so am well aware of what one is and the purpose for them. What is your hate with them?

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Marshall’s comments I thought were reasonable and if you compare how Marshall talks to people like Drew Mitchell and Justin Harrison then to beat up Marshall for his comments is simply laughable. And to say that the pile on to Holland only started after he doubled down (explained what he meant when asked by the media so this story could continue to be pushed) is simply recreating history.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Haha, no we won’t and normally Razor and Mcmillan don’t fall into that trap. I do agree that others take up tge call and then take it to another level which amounts to ref bashing (read the comments here as an example and just about every other article), but because others do, like commentators etc, I think coaches and captains need to be more careful in post match interviews.

To be perfectly honest, I just thought it waa a bit sad coming from Larkham and the idea that he was going to talk to Berry about it. His disappontment waa palpable, but he would be better focussed on how and where the team can improve rather than blaming the ref for coming up short.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

They are simply the facts Ash. The fact you want to sweep it aside as personal is fine. It doesn’t make your initial comment any more valid.

I know you may have missed it but suggesting a whole country beats it up could be taken by some as personal.. a little self-awareness wouldn’t go astray, which is all my intial comment about Larkhams comments waa alluding to.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Whatever you say Ken. If its true in your head it must be. You are too clever for me. The fact you are so selective with your comments about strawmen and your follow up to being questioned is more if the same nonsense will do me.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

I agree Loosey and I hope we don’t see more of it next week. I personally am less worried about others than I am about our coaches doing it. But at some point all this ref bashing needs to stop.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Hey Jez, all my point really is, is that it can’t be ok and acceptable for one side and not another. I acknowledge his disappointment, but when the article and pile in came from the aussies, there was no quarter given for the coach being disapponted. I don’t ser posters on here demanding Aussies denounce his comments like some on here did, last week immediately post game, when it was a kiwi ref.
And to be honest I’d as soon see this not get any more attention than it has been given. I just thought it worth pointing out.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

I can just imagine the noise had a kiwi ref bern appointed.. but it seems to be a common theme for many Australian fans, commentators and sports writers… blimmin ref, blimmin cheating kiwi, blimmin, blimmin

'Gutted': Five-minute horror period ends Brumbies' Super Rugby hopes as Chiefs set up final with Crusaders

Sadly true .. but couldn’t when it really mattered 😛 Hey thanks for the response on McLaughlin the other day too.

'Gutted': Five-minute horror period ends Brumbies' Super Rugby hopes as Chiefs set up final with Crusaders

Actually if you watch the game they went over the line another time which was called heldup by the ref and another time Narawa uncharacteriistically dropped the ball withthe goal line beckoning.

Also the Crusaders have already been beaten twice convincingly this season both home and away.

But apart from those facts… please feel free to continue with your completely unsubstantiated opinion

'Gutted': Five-minute horror period ends Brumbies' Super Rugby hopes as Chiefs set up final with Crusaders

Actually I don’t agree. He played exceptionally well in both oositions. Just repeating the same old rhetoric doesn’t make it true. Normally that has been the case this season, but in this game he played well in both positions, his only blemish being a single dropped high ball. His tackle on Valentini at the line which stopped him in his tracks was outstanding as was much of his kicking and other decision making and play. I think you should watch it again 😊

'Gutted': Five-minute horror period ends Brumbies' Super Rugby hopes as Chiefs set up final with Crusaders

If he learns and adjusts, I 100% agree. The sloppy goal line kick should not be acceptable at any level. I personally found that to be the most disappointing of the errors he made.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Okay Ken you tell me… there were plenty of people posting here suggesting he was the no. 1 choice prior to yesterdays game and comments from various commentators on the rugby show etc. but you say its a strawman.
Saying something to dismiss a comment made by someine thst is not you and it being true are not the same thing… but please keep throwing up your motherhood statements without any substance as to why you disagree, because that certainly has a ring of credibility.. not.
If you prefer I say many posters and media commentators rather than everyone, feel free to make that correction. I thought it would be obvious, but can understand how it may not be

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

And Wiz, I only give you lip, because I know you can take it and give it. The internationals will be a whole other thing… different players, different coaches. Looking forward to it and the battle recommencing. Until then safe travels 😊

'Gutted': Five-minute horror period ends Brumbies' Super Rugby hopes as Chiefs set up final with Crusaders

To be fair, that was a shocker.. if he plays half as bad in a big game that is going to be a problem. Where everyone was suggesting he was a walk in to the 15 spot, it is reasonable after that to have a bit more of a think. May not change anything, but it does provide grounds for concern. Look at it another way, if Stephenson or Jordan played like that you would be hearing similar comments from kiwis abd the kiwi media.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

I thought the Chiefs did a fair amoount of passing to static players too, especially to tight five players. Neither side was breaking the line or looking like they would as a result. The chiefs need to sort this going into next week.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

To be fair to you Christy… you do an awesome job and I do have a lot of respect for what you do and your output, even if it sometimes may not seem like it.. so on a personal note, while I may not agree with everything due to your unashamed bias (which I fully understand and appreciate) I would like to say a very sincere thanks for all the articles you put up.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Hey Breakaway, to be honest I was very nervous until Guzzler went over. They got into our red zone a couple of times.. and that is always nerve wracking. I would have felt better had we scored sooner and Narawa hadn’t dropped the ball.. but these games that go to the wire I think are good for the Chiefs leading into the big dance.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Why? Commenta like mine generate clicks don’t they… and it appears that is the sole point of this site 😊 People are welcome to turn a blindeye to it if they want… i am just curious as to how rhe sane people who want to beatup various kiwi posters, commentators, coaches and captains justify things when it is the other way around.. settle petal is one way.

And fyi i wasn’t pleased with what the canes coach said last week and stated it then.. but its crickets when tge boot is on the other foot apparentlly or settle petal if someone dares mention it 😊

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

The whole country beefed it up did they.. and this from a guy who bleats about the ref from the start of a game to the end every live feed and chance he gets. I am afraid you have zero credibility.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

Here’s an interesting thing… Last week there was an article and multiple comments about the Canes coach bemoaning a refs decision… and questioning whether kiwi posters would call it out as inappropriate. This week, Larkham takes it a step further in the post match interview… not a peep.

I understand the disappointment.. Nic White struggled after the game to hide his separate disappointment. Larkham didn’t bother… he just banged on about the ref decisions he thought went against him. It doesn’t matter, because his team is finished. If they want to drop their bottom lip and cry while leaving that is up to them. I hope whoever loses next week can show some class and be proud of making it to where they got and be pleased for the eventual winners.

But if there is something to deride about anything in what the kiwis say or do that can be construed in any sort of negative way… I am sure Christy Doran and few other posters here will be quick to share their views. But for now the silence is deafening.

Triple threat turns to triple concern: Wallabies star's indecisiveness gives Eddie food for thought ahead of RWC

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