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Yeah Muz, I think that transitioning from league to union would be easier for a lock (BThorn) than it would for any other position. But then again, locks are required to do so much more in the modern game. So many it’s a no hey.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Very interesting mate. I didn’t notice that but it doesn’t surprise me.
Union have very good speed off the ground passers because it’s a crucial and important part of speeding up the ruck.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
I think a hooker would be better suited to #9 in union. 6 and 7 would be better suited to 10 or a small 12. Yeah they’ll have to learn to pass and kick alot further and then be able to tackle well in those channels because their are some massive lads coming down that lane, as RTS has recently found out
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Aerobically professional union players are alot fitter. See SBW, Vunivalus and most recently Folaus transitions to union in Japan and you’ll see they are gassed very quickly after a 80/60/40 runs up and down the field continuously. Straight after you’ll notice they are ineffective in the ensuing rucks. Their recovery time after those runs takes them almost half the game to reload.
League players are fitter over the 20m shuttles hands down and will outlast any union player over longer periods in those compact box runs. But over the full field union has it over them all.
I love Pap, for a small bloke (in the mould of a small Damien McKenzie) he is electric and would do well in union. Munster has the temperament of a union flyhalf and could transition well also and they both have a very good boot.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
In the longitudinal stuff and when covering continuous repeat sets of phase play they absolutely are. Remember also union boys shift bigger bodies at points of contact and have to clear bodies around rucks at a rate of 3.5 sec avg faster than league rucks which are as slow as 6-7secs per turn around.
The GPS numbers in comparison also supports that too unless you don’t know the difference between anaerobic and aerobic fitness.
In regards to short and sharp shuttles over 60mins league wind hands down.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Very fair points mate. The way I see it is if they have the focus and the intent they can make it in union as have a few others. But yes making sense of the chaos with very little time to think because of the blitz defensive style in union always gets the converts. On top of that the tackling style is very different too which in my opinion is more effective and efficient in union than it is in league.
I guess I like to give any convert the benefit of the doubt until I don’t.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
I think the forwards would go ok also, as long as you recruit the bigger, taller, mobile back rowers from league straight into the back rower positions in union. To speed up their union education I would chuck them into every 7’s tournament I could find. There’s no hiding in 7’s as you know and you have to learn the art quickly or get exposed.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Fitness is union is very different. Most converts struggle with the longer runs over the entire field hence the reason why you see alot of the converts pull up with soft tissue injuries e.g. Vunivalu
League is more concentrated within 20m box sets – back and forth.
Paps is about Damien McKenzies size should go alright from the pocket or off 2nd touches. Does he have a boot? As for the others well, wouldn’t it be nice if time and money weren’t an issue.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Scrums would only be an issue at first but if Angus Taavao is regarded as a serious scrummager then surely the Burgess brothers would trump him given time. Mid field ball carriers generally lay the platform for 2nd phase but if a Haas or Burgess was running that channel maybe x2 they could bust the D line and create opportunities off longer post contact metres like they do in the NRL.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
Payne Haas, Josh Papalii, Burgess brothers – front row. I would love to see if these guys could revolutionize the front row. The scrums would be an issue but they could be used as big ball runners around the corner or closer to the 15m channel.
Asafo Solomona #6
Tino Fa’asuamaleaui #8
Nathan Cleary/Munster #10
Jason Taumalolo #12
Tom Trbojevic #14
Ryan Papenhuyzen #15
If given time to improve aerobic fitness levels coupled with specific skills coaching these lads could do good things alongside some of the current Wallabies.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?
K&C exactly my point.
Back row #6,7,8 these days are 6’4- 6’7, skillful, can run up to 12k’s, pilfer, jump option in lineouts and can score tries.
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Not so sure about that Oz. that what they said about RTS and Vunivalu.
'I'd like to stay': Vunivalu wants to repay rugby's faith despite Dolphins circling for NRL return
Defensive shapes and systems are non existent.
'I'd like to stay': Vunivalu wants to repay rugby's faith despite Dolphins circling for NRL return
NRL backrowers are quite small and short. They’d get dominated in the rucks, lineouts, especially on the international scene.
'I'd like to stay': Vunivalu wants to repay rugby's faith despite Dolphins circling for NRL return
Lightening SLOW ball at the ruck was started by Perenara IMO.
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I totally agree. Sullivan has the poise and temperament of an experienced 10 for such a young player who also has the skills of an elite playmaker. Unfortunately, the blues coaches rate plummer over him which is just daft.
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I’m not sure why the Blues keep persisting with Plummer at 10. Perofeta would’ve been a better option to start as would Sullivan who are both natural 10’s. In Plummer’s defense though he is a very good 10 – at NPC level.
RTS off at 1/2 time with sore shoulders…welcome to union and the 12 channel. You’ll get use to the bigger bodies of union coming through that channel so just stay on the park and tough it out mate.
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Vunivalu’s injury issues are probably to do with muscle memory. His body is being put through longer runs over more ground at higher intensity exertion rates coupled with more intense ground work than it was in league. In other words more high intensity sprints, longer distances and to add to that more clean and jerks in tackles and rucks in half the – ball in play time compared to league. This is evident in the types of injuries he has which are soft tissue.
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The Chiefs v Blues will the game of the round for me. RTS will be severely tested this week with multiple runners targeting his channel. He’ll have his shoulders full with Tupaea, Retallick and Taukeiaho running big and strong in and under the 12 channel looking to exploit his defensive frailties. RTS is a chest to chest tackler (preferred NRL tackle selection) which will force an inefficient 2-3 man tackle situation if he persists with this technique. Last week he had to be assisted in almost every tackle he was involved in and when he was left in a 1on1 situation he missed “that” crucial tackle. Hopefully he reverts to the chop which will stop the ball carrier in his tracks.
On attack I’d expect him to run lightening quick metres to the adline upon receipt of the ball which was a great addition to his evolving game, but I don’t think the Chiefs will be sitting on their heels as the Canes were last week. The Chiefs are super smart so they’ll come quick to the adline and split/isolate RTS and Reiko stopping them from linking. Tupaea and ALB will be integral in stopping the RTS and Ioane.
However, I think once BB gets on the park, things will change and RTS will running out of pocket and off BB who will create the space for him allowing to use his crazy talent.
This will be the game of the round for me and I can’t wait.
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Nice shuffle there Otaki, I would actually like to see BB at 10, Clarke at 12, Telea at 13, Reiko and RTS on the wings and Sullivan out back.
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Great comment CUW
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Good to see RTS looking more and more like a union player.
I really liked how he pulled trigger every time he received the ball to carry from 1st 5.
He bolted to the gain line every time to keep the D line flat back on their heels forcing them into a 2 man shoulders on jam which then allowed RTS to reach through the line and offload.
In the trials he would wait for the defence to come forward and allow them to take his space and weapons (wicked step). That essentially is someone who has learnt lessons from previous games.
I am still eager to see him offload then look for 2nd touches which is where I think we will see him at his most lethal in open play and ad lib.
His defence, well its a work on. He is still reaching because he’s not defending through the ball carrier but that’s an easy fix. He just needs to add a few more steps to his lead up to the point of contact.
In clearing rucks and assist tackles he lacks power as he struggles with cleaning rucks and removing spoilers around the ball carrier. But is usually the case with new NRL players crossing over. He will fix that no doubt.
Is he the future 12 for the AB’s…unfair to RTS to say he is and also to the actual experienced 12’s he will be testing himself against when he meets the Crusaders and Chiefs. He still needs to sort out his lateral long pass and add a grubber or touch finder to his game.
For now its just great to watch him evolve his game into a union player.
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Drua’s major problem – conditioning. Once they get match fit and lose some body mass, which should be around mid season the mistakes and brain fades will lessen. Then they’ll be a real threat.
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Exactly JD. That’s why I think RTS may struggle also unless he finds different ways of shooting the gap eg. off a tip or a dump ball from a pod or big carrying centre. Havilli didn’t really innovate himself did he. He just kept on doing the same thing with the same result every time.
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Yeah it always does my head how, for a code that pride itself on elite level fitness the coaches spend most of their time coaching how to conserve energy by slowing down aspects of the game.
You are absolutely correct on the longer pass which would attract more moving parts.
Which NRL players could make the switch for the 2027 Rugby World Cup?