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A self diagnosed cricket tragic. Dominic has worked for the ECB as a Development Manager and has been a regular on ABC Newcastle as a sport presenter and has been a regular on Radio Cambridge in the U.K. as a cricket expert.
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As a passionate cricket fan, I'm disappointed in the current drama unfolding between Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketer's Association (ACA). As a lover…
Anindya,
“This is conjecture and I suspect you haven’t seen this current Indian team play”…
Sorry but I completely disagree. One of the big differences has again been the Indian spinners. Fact – they would be taken apart in Australia – as is mostly always the case. The Indian pace bowlers may have improved but all have been to Australia previously and all have failed.
I don’t dispute that India have by far played the best cricket. Nor do
I dispute the fact that this current Australian team has its issues. But please, shall we just put this into a little perspective.
Australia's ODI ranking plummets on the verge of series whitewash
Kersi,
Thank you for clarifying the heading issue and the ranking stats.
Appreciate the feedback.
Australia's ODI ranking plummets on the verge of series whitewash
Kersi,
Thank you for clarifying the heading issue and the ranking stats.
Appreciate the feedback.
Australia's ODI ranking plummets on the verge of series whitewash
Kersi you mention in the title that Australia’s ranking ‘Plummets’ but there is absolutely no mention of any detail in the piece – where do they sit? If they lose the next 2, which let’s face it, is likely, where will they end up? These details should have been included.
Australia's ODI ranking plummets on the verge of series whitewash
Solid article Adam. As a suffering Dog’s member, I completely agree with your assessment. The only area I’d disagree with is Hasler being there in 2018. The man has gone backwards and the writing was on the wall late last season. To say nothing has changed would be misleading – something has changed, they’ve managed to get worse. Hasler’s recruitment has been diabolical right through his reign at Canterbury. It just adds fuel to the argument that he has made good on rosters put together for him by predecessors. He has shown no ability to adapt his approach and his one dimensional philosophy is outdated and killing the club. He must go. As for Dib, he clearly has no ability to manage an NRL Franchise. His decision to re-sign a coach who at the time was 1 from 4 (and actually considering the previous season was 1 from 9) so early in the season was as poor a decision I’ve seen in sport. Any sound businessman would have waited for further evidence and not clamoured to sign a coach who was obviously struggling. Dib has consistently said ‘judge us at the end of the season’. Well, the time is nigh and unfortunately for Mr Dib, it’s not going to be a pretty assessment.
It's time for a change at the Bulldogs
Excellent article Tim. I hope Eduardo Luis managed to survive the night!
Hang your heads in shame, New South Wales
GJ,
Of course you are entitled to your opinion – and I am glad that you’ve had an opportunity to voice them.
However, let me state quite clearly, I have not been deliberately condescending and my ‘advice’ as you put it was simply that if you are so ‘irritated’ by my opinion/comments then it may be best to stop reading them.
I too get slightly frustrated by comments made but I certainly wouldn’t presume to tell the subscriber that I find their comments irritating.
I thank you for your comments and respect your opinion GJ.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Big Daddy,
I’m pro cricket. I’m not anti player or anti CA.
In this situation, I happen to believe that it’s quite simple. CA are charged with running the game. The players are very well remunerated to play. So yes, in this instance I have a problem with the apparent greed of the players under the guise of helping those lower down the rung and of keeping CA in check.
I guess having worked for the ECB, it just gives me a little more of an understanding of what is involved in cricket operations.
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GJ, again, I appreciate your comments.
However you are reading far too much into this. Perhaps you should sign off?
I don’t mean to infer unions as negative. Union, organisation – call the what you will – the fact is that the ACA represent the players in a union type format.
Quite a few of those who’ve commented on my piece and have been anti CA have also referred to the ACA as a union and referred to CA and Peever in particular as ‘a union buster’….
It’s just an opinion GJ.
Cheers.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Chui,
Thanks for the comments. Great to see some diverse discussion.
My comment about money was of course related to union based activity. The areas you suggest I’m sure are prevalent however unions are mostly involved when it comes to money. Apologies that you needed clarification on that.
As for the surname.. fair point haha.
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Joey Johns,
Yes that’s right. The franchises spend all that money on overseas players just for the hell of it. They have no impact at all.
Maybe we can get them to just come over and polish all the international T20 World Cup trophies we’ve won with all our superstar T20 players.
Oh that’s right…. that’d be a waste of time too….
Thanks Joey.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Joey Johns, not true at all. They (ACA) refuse to negotiate on anything other than a Revenue share model. Which is the same as not negotiating at all.
By the way, their proposal is still $100 million more than the current model.
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Don’t get me wrong, there are some very good local T20 players.
How many World T20s have Australia won though? Why? Because we are generally inferior in that format.
The simple fact is – like the IPL – without the international players, the BBL wouldn’t be half the success. You can argue all you like but that’s exactly why they command ridiculous money for 3 or 4 weeks work and it’s why franchises pay it.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Joey Johns,
The overseas players get paid extraordinarily well – they don’t get millions but remember that they’re only here for a few weeks!
And thanks for listing all those internationals and proving my point.
If you think that people don’t pay to watch KP, Pollard, Sanga, Bell, Gayle (when he was around) et al. then you’re clearly out of touch.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Big Daddy,
CA are there to administer the game for the good of ALL stakeholders – not just the players.
And they didn’t ‘terminate’ the contracts. The players have refused to sign the new proposal / contracts that CA have put forward.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
GJ,
Thanks again for taking the time to comment. I agree that it is a less than ideal situation and I share your frustrations.
Firstly, I’m tespknse to your comment about CA – they make these decisions based on what they deem best for CA – or indeed Cricket. They are and should be one in the same. And I don’t say they’re the best administrators / but they are just that. Administrators and it’s their job. We may not always agree with their decisions but it’s their job.
As for my take on money – I don’t determine the average wage – that’s done by the government. What I am saying is that earning millions per year (elite players) is fair reward for playing cricket: that’s just my opinion. I’d also be happy to go on record and say that LeBron James is overpaid. But again, that’s just my opinion.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Mango Jack,
Let’s not start comparisons with EPL. Most sports fans would agree that they are paid far too much.
People who keep saying that the ‘players are the product’ … ‘they make all the revenue’ just simply ignore the facts.
Cricket costs money to run. There are the professional players who deserve to be well paid (and are!) but then there is grass roots cricket, development, investment, coach development and coaches programmes, marketing.
It’s just far too simple to say, the players play and we know them all so they deserve all the money. The Revenue sharing model, as it currently stands, is far outdated.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Rellum,
You have made some valid points however I completely disagree with you here regarding state players.
‘State players are the Jewel’… Please!!
The ‘Jewel’ in the BBL crown are the myriad of overseas players that come in for the tournament. Which is exactly why they get paid massive figures.
No one is turning up if it’s just state players, believe me.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Rellim, Absolutely agree with you here.
Perhaps it’s just another indication of how the players actually think?
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Rod, thanks for taking the time to join the debate.
Whilst I certainly respect your opinion, I completely disagree.
1) the players don’t manufacture the product. Not alone anyway. As I pointed out, the game is a result of many cogs – including investment and administration. All of which are the responsibility of CA. Not the players.
2) ACA’s proposal has the players receiving $100mil more than they currently do. They already earn millions (the elite) and the state players, as we’ve heard, also earn very good money.
To me, that smells like greed.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Exactly Nathan.
Thanks also for your comments and information.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
The Bush,
CA have taken a very logical approach. They haven’t refused mediation. What they have stated – quite correctly, is that they won’t mediate when ACA hasn’t even tried to negotiate.
Negotiation comes before mediation I’m afraid The Bush.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
The Bush,
Thanks for commenting, I love the passion.
However you miss the point of the article. You see, you have fallen for the old ‘I’m doing it for my buddy’ line. As I pointed out in the original piece, that was the original line of the players until it become apparent that actually, State players are paid very well. I’ll say it again, the average shield player earns double the average Aussie wage. Most would earn well in excess of $150k.
So the current line for the players is – ‘we need to have this Revenue share model to keep bad old CA in check’… Again, are we really expected to believe this?
This is all about money. I’d have more respect for the players if they just admitted as much.
As for your reference regarding old times – those players were paid next to nothing and indeed, as you’ve mentioned many had to sacrifice earnings justbi order to have the privilege of representing their county. When they played, they cared. No question.
As for wanting that environment. Of course not. I don’t begrudge the players their right to good money. I would however argue that they are on good money. And will continue to earn good money.
Cricket isn't owned by the players
Savage…
India, like always, will get flogged next time they travel to Australia, England or South Africa.
Please don’t go on about how India are the best across ICC formats over the past 7 years. Yawn. India won in the WC in 2011, Aust in 2015 – it’s just that India have the extra CT. Who cares – they were scrapping that tournament up until a year or so ago!
If you want to chat about history – more than happy to. Australia has 5 World Cups. More Champions Trophies than any other nation. India HAVE NEVER EVER won a test series in Australia.
So what?
India are playing good cricket. Australia have been poor. However they also have the Ashes on the horizon. Are playing away in a tournament that doesn’t really mean anything. The question you need to ask is – will this last?
Me thinks not!
Australia's ODI ranking plummets on the verge of series whitewash