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You don’t have to catch the ball though – tapping it back is a perfectly legal and legitimate strategy

'I did think the worst': BB's 'scary' escape, Foster urged to embrace 'Hollywood' moment to save job

Jordan took Mapimpi out quite blatantly and that wasn’t punished

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The Wrap: Two different ways to skin a cat as Wallabies and Springboks draw first blood

As I saw Hendrikse kick and Arendse move I thought that kick is a bit too far – that he got as close as he did surprised me. It shows what this Spinkboks team demands of its athletes – not only the ability to get there, but the ability to make the right decisions under such pressure. He should have pulled out, glided in and hit Barrett full tilt on the landing. He’ll be judged harshly on this single instance, even though the rest of his report card was rather stellar

The Wrap: Two different ways to skin a cat as Wallabies and Springboks draw first blood

Where would we put a double yellow?

The Wrap: Two different ways to skin a cat as Wallabies and Springboks draw first blood

If there was anything clear and obvious the TMO would have asked the ref to have a look. Isn’t that what we want? Or, are you asking that they stop the game to dissect every decision for a try frame by frame?

ANALYSIS: Brutal Boks suffocate All Blacks despite early setback, exposing more problems for Foster to solve

Goosen at 10?

Last -gasp Argentina, Springboks restore southern pride while Chile edge USA to reach RWC finals for first time

Rugby is very popular in SA and is growing. We’re mostly very happy with our rugby. Not sure what you’re bothered about ????

Is Eddie Jones' England's boring rugby hurting the code?

What’s the answer to this? Perhaps as well as the teams, referees could address the public before a game to highlight areas of focus (idiosyncrasies aside)?

Last -gasp Argentina, Springboks restore southern pride while Chile edge USA to reach RWC finals for first time

Yep, that’s what it was called in the findings of the panel, but in Jonker’s case he wasn’t even afforded the opportunity to accept the offer he couldn’t refuse. He might have preferred that to the immediate character assassination, who knows

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

I get the feeling that the view held by just about everyone outside of the Republic has been from such a high horse they can’t see their way down.

Rennie is at least guilty of charges 2-6 as per Rassie’s misconduct finding. So only innocent of charge 1 and I think you would find that Jonker would have appreciated a heads up warning and opportunity to explain himself before Rennie ran to the press.

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Rennie is clearly guilty of charges 2-6 against Erasmus in the WR panel report. So he is only innocent of charge 1, which would be contacting Jonker to give him a fair opportunity to please explain before assassinating his character and hard fought career in public

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Harry, do you think the Rennie incident will have any impact on Rassie’s appeal? If we are comparing to English law, are there any circumstances that allow this ‘new evidence’ to be weighed? Particularly in respect to the length and type of punishment, as they will surely have to impose some sort of comparable material match ban on Rennie too?

ANALYSIS: How and why World Rugby's panel reached its verdict in the Erasmus case

Apparently Rassie should have held a press conference, expressed his disgust at the referee (without any evidence) and questioned his very appointment. Then everyone would have been fine with it

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Bias? Which of our countries has evidence of clear and deliberate bias from the others’ referees? ‘Let’s get the Japies’. We experience clear bias often enough and have evidence that it’s real.

Also, I’ve heard enough from the Roar community about it not mattering if the ref got it wrong – you follow proper channels.

It is very clear that the outrage over Rassie was disingenuous. To attempt to maintain the high ground as both the ‘victim’ and the ‘perpetrator’ is just so rich.

Rennie did to Jonker what Rassie did to Berry in a far more public and direct manner.

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

That’s such a one-sided view you must be intentionally glossing over a lot of nuance. And to suggest I don’t appreciate the psyche of South African rugby 😂

The Springboks legitimately felt the 1st match was influenced by the Lions deliberate media machine. And they were patently right. All this talk of Rassie blackmailing Berry – he wanted clarity to ensure that his team could be as prepared as possible to play to the ref, a critical component of the modern game at the top. What he got instead was obfuscation. Makes me wonder how deliberate it was on WR’s as well as Berry’s part. There was clearly much behind the scenes chat going on between all officials, but Rassie is afforded only silence and a muted apology for the clear and significant mistakes. The fact that his video did influence the 2nd test only proves his points, particularly on media influence on referees.

The only difference between Rassie and Rennie is that Rassie had a clear and present urgency to turn a tide, while Rennie’s only motivation at the end of the season could be to humiliate Jonker and ruin his career. In the week of Rassie’s verdict and punishment and right after his weighing in on poor Berry’s treatment, this is pure arrogance from Rennie

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Yes, Erasmus questioned the ref’s decisions and WR processes – Rennie questioned the very fact that Jonker was even appointed. I see the difference

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

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'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Erasmus has been punished – he is appealing, as is his right. You’re already absolving Rennie as if he’s already apologized and done his time. There has been no end to the Bok bashing; on this site, and the world over. One of your own transgresses in pretty much the same way and you can’t wait to distance the act from something you clearly abhor. ‘It’s not the same thing!’ you cry. It is the same thing – I’ve had a enough of you all telling me what was wrong with what Erasmus did and even with the man himself to recognise that.

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Absolute rubbish – you’ve spent so long living the ‘Erasmus bad’ narrative that you cannot see the obvious comparisons. Rennie is at least as guilty of assassinating Jonker’s character as Erasmus is of doing the same to Berry – very publicly questioning his ability and integrity (2nd time that’s happened to Jonker this year).

Rennie had no reason to say what he did other than to publicly shame the officials and Jonker in particular. Erasmus at least had the context of everything that had happened and was happening on a Lions tour to justify the urgency of the situation that the felt warranted a response. Rennie is worse – in the week of the Erasmus judgement and punishment, this is outright arrogant

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

You’re right, Rennie had no pressing urgency to behave in this disgusting manner compared to the Springboks’ once in a lifetime Lions tour that they weren’t getting a satisfactory response to

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

You’re right, there is a difference Jacko – Erasmus’ guilt was centred on whether he was responsible for his referee critism becoming public. Rennie’s very direct criticism is blatantly public, which is far worse. With the outright righteousness you have launched your vitriol at SA (fans, coach, team and sundry) it must take some gall to be this hypocritical

'Is there any accountability?': Everything Rennie said as he savaged refs group over 'massive decisions'

Considering the vitriol RE and SA fans have been subjected to over pretty much the same thing, the hypocrisy is astounding

MATCH REPORT: 'Horrendous'! Rennie anger as 14-man Wallabies beaten at the death

It’s different when it happens to your team – same as when your coach openly criticises a ref and TMO

MATCH REPORT: 'Horrendous'! Rennie anger as 14-man Wallabies beaten at the death

My point is he did not let the team down. Sure, it was over the top and many rugby fans may have lost respect for him, but he did it for the team, pure and simple.

'Forever tarnished': Nic Berry reveals heavy toll of Rassie's 'character assassination'

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