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Thank you Jez. I wish the Board presented such an analysis! I am a Perthite, but I can tell you that I am dreadfully saddened by this. Not good for our game as a whole either.
Winless Waratahs axe Rob Penney
Yes even simple wet weather advice that Scott could have offered, if asked, would have helped – such as, beware passing to the winger if close to the side-line in wet weather.
Bledi hell! Wallabies walloped by brilliant All Blacks
Probably thought that they would look tough. No thought given to cold wet hands and stiffening muscles, much less counter psychology or the weather!
Bledi hell! Wallabies walloped by brilliant All Blacks
It would help if suitable strategies were applied. Blame Chieka for a one dimensional approach. Now, what did he remind his team about concerning wet weather play?
Bledi hell! Wallabies walloped by brilliant All Blacks
Hunt damaged himself with drug-taking and it was a private matter. Folau publicly lambasted others for their behaviour and homosexuals for being born who they are. This is an entirely different matter.
Having said that, Cheika’s response was unwise and inappropriate as you have pointed out.
Cheika stumbles in first test of new Wallabies paradigm
The problem is Dom, as Nigel Owens has just pointed out, people are born gay. The other items on Folau’s list are all choices.
We do not tolerate public verbal assaults on people in such a circumstance; and Folau had additionally contracted to the RA code.
Just one question will decide Folau's future
Gloria, ‘freedom of expression is absolutely vital’, aside from being impossible in the absolute sense in our democracy, ignores the fact that Folau’s list of sins is a list of BEHAVIOURS, general in nature, which he believes should be avoided. There is one exception – his list includes ‘homosexuality’, ‘being attracted to people of the same sex’, which is not a behaviour but a PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTE.
Folau’s posting was a deliberate and debasing attack on a specific group of people for a sexual attraction that they are programmed for in utero.
Our society has made it clear in law that such an attack is illegal. Additionally a contract has been broken.
Sadly, Folau’s thinking is damaged by his particular faith and he is now suffering the consequences.
Can rugby really embrace diversity?
Gloria
‘your right to represent your country is taken away, that qualifies as persecution for me.’
This statement is illogical. Representation to represent one’s country is earned through excellence in the sport. Even Olympians sign codes of conduct once they qualify.
Folau has seemingly broken his contract. He has exposed himself to the media in a media and is suffering the consequences for that too.
Folau speaks for the first time since sacking announcement
Agree but not punished’ rather deemed unfit for the role
Folau speaks for the first time since sacking announcement
KP you are spoiling what should be a sensible conversation about an important issue.
Folau speaks for the first time since sacking announcement
Thank you Fionn – this is true.
Israel Folau digs in for the fight of his professional life
Cynical Play, this comment applies to your earlier post referencing the evangelical influence. My heart goes out to the Pacific islanders. I have lived there through the 60’s and have seen the damage done by the evangelical fundamentalists in particular.
In that sense Izzy is a victim, a product of that environment into which he was totally immersed. However it does not excuse his hurtful Post which ran contrary to his contract and the interests of our community.
Israel Folau digs in for the fight of his professional life
The problem is he included homosexuals on his list and this is a group of people, now overtly included in our RA community, who are already victims of widespread prejudice; these people may be wrestling with their sexual identity. To use a public post with enormous following to, contrary to contract, publicly shame and condemn individuals is his error.
Israel Folau does not deserve the sack
Bullying, if it ever became such, is never condoned. As such this argument is irrelevant.
What about your future kids, Izzy?
The kids will be fine unless gay. However Folau’s attack on homosexuals is in itself a form of violence. Imagine the same thing said to his gay child!
What about your future kids, Izzy?
By the way TWAS, thank YOU for breathing commonsense and compassion over such an issue and so many posts by others.
What about your future kids, Izzy?
Yes that’s true.
Poor Izzy.
By sacking Israel Folau, Rugby Australia showed what true leadership looks like
‘Clueless’ is not abuse. It means, in that sentence, that you do not have the clues (facts) to solve the puzzle (aka problem).
There is a dictionary definition for this analogy.
By sacking Israel Folau, Rugby Australia showed what true leadership looks like
Love the ironic twist!
By sacking Israel Folau, Rugby Australia showed what true leadership looks like
Yes, there is a whole back story of the powerful US evangelical far-right missionary influence in the Pacific islands and particularly Fiji.
In that sense one could see Folau of a victim of religious circumstance.
However, as Train points out, this is no excuse for his public vilification of others, particularly in terms of his contractual oblications.
By sacking Israel Folau, Rugby Australia showed what true leadership looks like
Absolutely the problem.
Rugby union would be a more inclusive, kinder place without Israel Folau and his backwards views
Agree absolutely there that there has been a strong trend for decades now to start with a business idea in sport or the arts, for example, then to choose actors to play the roles – think Spice Girls, for example. Sadly this and the ‘accountant’ mentality you mention has infected Aussie rugby to the point where talent, if it exists, is often ignored, denied or just plain stifled. Foley could well be an example of this latter.
Thanks for your salient and refreshing point of view.
Will Michael Cheika accept Scott Johnson's 'skilful' Wallabies plan?
Yes, I was there and it was perfect.
Sun in the eyes in the second half seemed to be a difficulty to a degree for the Wallabies.
MATCH REPORT: Rennie called for a foot on the throat, but All Blacks' response was 'ruthless'