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I think you’ll find Nathan Cleary at 7 and Mitchell Moses at 6 if there’s a decider in Brisbane.

NSW Origin II team: Maguire wields axe to shake up Blues squad with five changes

It’s a better team than game 1. Hope everyone stays fit and healthy this camp.
Personally I like Burton at 6 because of his big kicking game and if there was an injury to an outside back you could move him to centre with Watson playing 5/8.
I’d also start Yeo and Olakau’atu with Martin and Murray coming off the bench.
My game plan would be kick deep, chase hard, win the field position, tire the QLD middles and then bring Watson, Martin, Murray and Leniu on to speed up the ruck and go through QLD’s middle.

NSW Origin II team: Maguire wields axe to shake up Blues squad with five changes

You might eat those words.

Blues Origin II team: Latrell 'ready to give it to Queenslanders' after Madge meeting, Barrett says Moses best option

My Game 2 squad
1. Dylan Edwards
2. Brian To’o
3. Stephen Crichton
4. Latrell Mitchell
5. Zac Lomax
6. Matt Burton
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Jake Trbojevic
9. Reece Robson
10. Payne Haas
11. Haumole Olakau’atu
12. Angus Crichton
13. Isaah Yeo
14. Connor Watson
15. Liam Martin
16. Spencer Leniu
17. Cameron Murray
18. Mitch Barnett
19. Jacob Kiraz
20. Keaon Koloamatangi

The beauty of Hynesight: What changes do the Blues need to make in Game 2?

My Game 2 squad
1. Dylan Edwards
2. Brian To’o
3. Stephen Crichton
4. Latrell Mitchell
5. Zac Lomax
6. Matt Burton
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Jake Trbojevic
9. Reece Robson
10. Payne Haas
11. Haumole Olakau’atu
12. Angus Crichton
13. Isaah Yeo (c)
14. Connor Watson
15. Liam Martin
16. Cameron Murray
17. Mitch Barnett
18. Keaon Koloamatangi
19. Jarome Luai
20. Jacob Kiraz

Why Maguire must start fresh in selecting Blues Origin team - and the mix has to be just right

My Game 2 squad
1. Dylan Edwards
2. Brian To’o
3. Stephen Crichton
4. Latrell Mitchell
5. Zac Lomax
6. Matt Burton
7. Mitchell Moses
8. Jake Trbojevic
9. Reece Robson
10. Payne Haas
11. Haumole Olakau’atu
12. Angus Crichton
13. Isaah Yeo
14. Connor Watson
15. Liam Martin
16. Spencer Leniu
17. Cameron Murray
18. Mitch Barnett
19. Jacob Kiraz
20. Keaon Koloamatangi

Blues Origin II team: Latrell 'ready to give it to Queenslanders' after Madge meeting, Barrett says Moses best option

The consistent part is the buzz phrase “protecting players” and getting rid of these dangerous tackles from the game.
The inconsistent part is how they enforce it.

Tuilagi lucky to avoid spear tackle send-off, JWH binned after sneaky Parra ploy but Roosters get last laugh

What about the Kelma Tuilagi tackle. Isn’t the NRL worried about Broken necks? I don’t think any player would want to end up like Alex McKinnon.

Death, taxes and hypocrisy in rugby league: Suaalii send-off reignites inconsistent debate

Do you want to send Walsh out in a helmet now to protect his face. There’s a lot of ex footy players with scars and broken noses.
What about the Kelma Tuilagi tackle. Isn’t the NRL worried about Broken necks? I don’t think any player would want to end up like Alex McKinnon.

'Ready to go': Latrell Mitchell's perfect audition for Origin II as Souths stun Broncos

More NRL hypocrisy. Apply the Reece Walsh test to the Tuilagi tackle. If that tackle was on Reece Walsh I think Tuilagi gets sent off. Or Maybe the NRL has gone gun shy on the early send off.

Tuilagi lucky to avoid spear tackle send-off, JWH binned after sneaky Parra ploy but Roosters get last laugh

I doubt it. Any hit on Walsh seems to come under extra scrutiny. Walsh is the face of Rugby League. V’landys has said that they will do everything to protect Walsh.
I guess Billy doesn’t care about NSW players.

'Ready to go': Latrell Mitchell's perfect audition for Origin II as Souths stun Broncos

That’s a stretch.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

Draconian means of great severity – harsh, severe. I think playing 70+ minutes of rugby league 12 v 13 at the highest level is draconian. So the current rule would be draconian.
Science doesn’t believe your statement “fatigue causes injuries was proven a lie.”
That’s why we have so many injuries especially soft tissue injuries this season. The workload that the players are doing at training and in the game. There’s a difference with impact injuries, they can happen in the first minute, but physically and mentally your performance decreases with the more fatigue you’re under. And that’s why NRL players train so hard to be fit.
Manly is looking to move Turbo to the centres to reduce his workload and keep him injury free and on the field.
I don’t know where you people get your information. I’ve studied exercise science.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

I’ve heard plenty of ex players and ex origin players say that it’s worth looking at including Gordon Tallis and Braith Anasta.
And I’ve heard a ton of ex players and coaches talk about the extra fatigue like Mark Geyer, James Graham, Wade Graham, Luke Lewis, Ryan Girdler, Phil Gould, Andrew Johns, Matty Johns, Aaron Woods and I heard Wayne Bennett say that the game was decided after the send off.
So who’s your ex origin player?

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

There’s too many points here to debate right now. I never said it wasn’t a send off. I did say I believe it wasn’t intentional and was an accident.
Don may have stats but he doesn’t have the whole picture.
Not a lot of people agree with me on this website but I know plenty of people who do agree with me.
Was the ex origin player a blue or maroon and why can’t you name that person?

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

I think it’s the Wayne Bennett factor. They all started playing better after Wayne Bennett was announced as coach for next year. So their attitude changed.

'Ready to go': Latrell Mitchell's perfect audition for Origin II as Souths stun Broncos

And who cares what you thought

'Ready to go': Latrell Mitchell's perfect audition for Origin II as Souths stun Broncos

Riki tackle on Murray…. and Billy Slater stuck up for Riki…
Even Kevin Walters thought it was a send off… I give up.

'Ready to go': Latrell Mitchell's perfect audition for Origin II as Souths stun Broncos

Jordan Riki hit Cam Murray in the head. Gets 10 in the bin.
I wonder what would have happened if he did that same tackle on Reece Walsh?
Obviously they are team mates so…. 😂

Death, taxes and hypocrisy in rugby league: Suaalii send-off reignites inconsistent debate

Well that’s your opinion. I disagree.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

My only response is give it a go. I played 80 minutes with 12 men one day because some of our players didn’t turn up to a game. I was wallaby teds brother afterwards. It does make a difference. You really don’t think the Blues were working harder at 12 men? Statistics can’t tell you everything. What that tells me is NSW worked hard for each other and tried their best under the circumstances.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

All these 40 minute, 20 minute sin bin/send off ideas are alright in theory until I consider the potential for exploitation for a team to bring in a hitman to do a job on a star player. Sure they may be down for 20 minutes or 40 minutes but a the other player could be wiped for that game and potentially future games. That will never happen right? Or would it? What if they met a week before they played again before the finals or id it was in the GF itself?
I don’t want a 20 minute send off rule, that’s too short, as I said in the article. And Do you really think so little of League players and people? The day of a “hitman” or wiping out players is in the past, 40 years or more. I don’t know why you’re thinking goes to that place. I don’t believe that players or coaches would try to “wipe” out a player illegally. This is a professional sport now and the punishment would be much worse than a send off. They could be looking at life bans and huge monetary fines in today’s game.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

So your argument is that a send off is a deterrent? Again you are correct.
But if what you say is true then why would they take out Walsh so early in the game? Why not wait until 10 to go because a send off is less of a deterrent then. So it’s 20 all with 10 to go. Someone knocks out Walsh gets sent off and QLD lose. Would QLD fans be happy then? Is the send off still a sufficient punishment then.
We can go round and round with this debate.
I just feel this idea meets in the middle, that’s my opinion. Who would start a grand final or an origin game with 12 v 13? And who would watch it?
A send off in the first minute shouldn’t mean you have to play the rest of the game with 12 players. The actions of 1 person shouldn’t mean an endless punishment.
Why aren’t we putting family members of criminals in jail if the actions of one person in your family is against the law then why shouldn’t mums, dads, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters be punished with them?
You have your opinion. I have mine.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

I agree that It was a consequence of a high risk play that went wrong. You’re Absolutely correct.
I disagree that I’m waving the white flag because I still believe NSW can win this series. I also disagree that QLD would have won that game if it was 13 v 13 for 80 minutes, it would have been a close contest. And if everyone is so sure that QLD would have won no matter what then what’s the fear about playing 12 men for 40 minutes and then returning to 13. Suallii was never coming back on regardless and QLD had their 18th man activated. So why the huge resistance in limiting the time required to play with 12 men?

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

Isn’t the activation of the 18th man supposed to do that? That’s what it’s intended for anyway.
I never took the Rugby League field with an intent to injure an opponent. I still believe accidents happen. I know many disagree with me. But I think coaches and players are smarter than going out to illegally take a player out of the game. I actually worry about people who think that players are going out there to deliberately try and knock a player out. That may say more about them. I haven’t seen any player try to knock anyone out this season. The Dom Young tackle on Blake Taaffe was bad but nobody was saying that he deliberately targeted Taaffe to take him out.
There needs to be a limit on punishing the remaining players and the fans for the actions of one player.
I don’t believe any team is winning a game with 12 players against 13 for 60, 70 or 79 minutes. And certainly not against Queensland or the best teams in the NRL. Even Wayne Bennett agreed the game was decided after the send off.

Instead of being stuck in the past, we need to find a common-sense solution to rugby league's send-off rule

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