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Point 4 is right on the money. If the dynamics of the coaching team aren’t working, the dynamics of the playing team wont either.
The Wrap: With Wallabies done and dusted in 15 miserable days, who do we trust to take Australian rugby forward?
Actually I reckon uppermost in Dave Rennie’s mind will be sympathy for the players he worked so hard with and for. Sure, he’ll take these results as a partial vindication but he’s the sort of person who’s focus is on the team, even if it’s no longer his team, and not his own ego.
I’ll never give up watching and supporting rugby in Australia but until Jones and McLennan are gone there’ll be a lingering, unpleasant odour. The Guardian has reported McLennan offering this gem to ‘disgruntled supporters’ – “if you don’t like it, don’t watch”. Is he the person we want at the top of Australian Rugby, the advertising guy who bought a product that was a complete dud?
'Bloody disappointed: Wallabies OUT of World Cup as nation to miss finals for first time, Eddie fights for survival
Agreed jc. Eddie’s “75% of tries scored off 3 phases” may indeed be true but it doesn’t mean the answer is the kick the ball away constantly. Some of that 75% will be tries scored in 3 or fewer phases where the attacking side gained possession 40, 50, or 60 metres out from the try line. Then there are the cases where a side is awarded a penalty that gets them into their opponents 22 and score after a maul or a couple of phases.
It can be tempting to over state the importance of some random, single statistic if it seems to support your preconceived position, but context is important. So I’d like a bit more information about Eddie’s 75%, like a breakdown of where and how the scoring side got possession.
Eddie Jones is all over the place. Is it time to be worried?
There was no plan B.
ANALYSIS: 'If Eddie persists with his game plan and it fails the damage to Australian rugby could be significant'
Funny. Nobody seems to have noticed that White was not in possession of the ball when he was tackled. Look carefully at the “Hunter by name, Hunter by nature” Twitter video above, particularly the third angle shown at the 15 second mark. When McDermott makes contact with White the ball is still in the air. It then bounces off Paisami’s hip just as he hits White. Should have been a penalty to the Brumbies. And no, I’m not a Brumbies supporter.
REACTION: 'Let the game flow'- Reds outlast Brumbies as card frenzy steals the show to leave fans and players fuming
Unless I missed it Jelonch did not leave the field after the tackle.
Australian rugby guidelines on possible concussion say that “Concussion must be suspected or recognised if a player has any of the following signs, symptoms or fails to answer any of the memory questions after a head or body collision. ”
The “following signs” include:
Lying motionless on ground / Slow to get up
Unsteady on feet / Balance problems or falling over / Incoordination
Grabbing / Clutching of head
Jelonch clutched at the his face, seemed to be unsteady and then fell over after the tackle and was a bit slow to get up.
The guidelines go on the say that:
Any player with a suspected or recognised concussion must be removed from the rugby field immediately.
The player must not take further part in any rugby training or games (including other sports) on this day.
So why did Jelonch get to play the rest of the game?
'Absolute travesty': Outrage over Koroibete red in Wallabies v France decider
Possibly a little bit of tongue-in-cheek in Brett’s use of ‘learnings’?
Collected learnings from the first weekend of Super Rugby trans-Tasman
They used to be called ‘lessons’. You know you’ve got problems when front rowers are trotting out corporate-speak.
Shattered Wallabies picking up the pieces
Good to see Chris Latham there. It always fascinated and frustrated me that the Folau fanatics seemed to have such short memories and had forgotten Latham. Folau played 73 tests and scored 37 tries, Latham 78/40, but Latham could kick and defend, skills which seemed to elude Folau.
My five favourite Wallabies of all time
Thanks. Didn’t know that. He seems to have successfully completed the switch. To me he still looked better at 12 last night than he has at 10. Not that he hasn’t been playing some good football at 10, but I think he’s more valuable as a 12.
Rebels shock Brumbies in the wet
To’omua is a 12. He always has been a 12. Good to see him playing so well there.
We seem to have spent the last 15 years in Australian Rugby trying to turn 12s into 10s without any great success. Let’s hope some of our younger 10s continue to develop. Deegan played well last night; Harrison is looking good but we need to see him run more and take the ball to the line.
Rebels shock Brumbies in the wet
Of Maddocks – “He has the skills and vision of a flyhalf – he can pass under pressure off both sides, offload after contact and kick long and accurately. He is no slouch off the mark and is strong under the high ball”.
I’d like to see him get a run a 10. He seems to read the game better than any of the other prospects.
Does Dave Rennie opt for youth or experience in 2020?
I think some of the kicks were attempts at 50-22s. The kicking team gets the lineout throw.
O’Connor kicking goals in Super return
O’Connor played well. Shame about the two forward passes he threw that led to the first two Reds’ tries.
O’Connor kicking goals in Super return
Since 2001:
Jones 57.9%
Connolly 64%
Deans 58.7%
McKenzie 50%
Cheika 50%
So yes, Deans is second out of 5 coaches this century.
Dave Rennie lays it all out ahead of Wallabies start date
I doubt we’ll see Foley in a Wallabies jersey again. He seems to have lost the plot over the past couple of years and I can’t help thinking that the Cheika/Larkham conflict has had a lot to do with that. As playmaker he would have been right at the centre of it, getting pulled in two directions and trying to adapt his own style of play to match two different philosophies. Being forced to serve two masters is bound to get you into trouble.
Maybe a couple of years overseas under a decent, consistent coach will sort him out but by that time his age will count against him.
Wales withstand Wallabies' second-half fightback
Couldn’t agree more. A dominant scrum, some excellent clearance kicks from Beale and Genia, a home crowd, and a Pumas side playing well below what they’re capable of. And we won by 6 points. Really?
The attack is still not working. The RWCs semis? Not likely!
Wallabies chip away in Argentina Test win
A kick fest. Understandable in the conditions, but Koroibete showed what was possible if you just held onto the ball and ran.
Wessels said last week he thought his play makers needed to do better. I didn’t see much improvement. QC did some good things but was disappointing again overall. Where was he in the last 5 minutes when the Rebels needed some magic? When the ball is a bit slow coming and the defence are up quickly the trademark flat attack with long, cut-out passes doesn’t work? What’s plan B? Maybe they could … I dunno … stand a bit deeper, move the ball wide and use all that other talent they have in their back line – To’omua, Hodge (later English), Maddocks, Koroibete and Haylett-Petty, every one of them Wallabies.
Tahs trample over Rebels to win tight encounter
“But this one took place – helpfully – in line with the 10m line so it was easy to see that the point where the ball was released was well behind where the ball was caught. ”
Oliver, just because the ball is released behind where it is caught does NOT mean it’s a forward pass. You might want to watch this video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg
The 2019 World Rugby laws describe it like this:
THROW FORWARD
6. A throw forward may occur anywhere in the playing area. Sanction : Scrum.
7. A player must not intentionally throw or pass the ball forward. Sanction : Penalty.
Eight talking points from Super Rugby Round 13
Lano, excellent question! Much has been written about how Australian rugby simply doesn’t have the players to do well on the international stage, and how poor the skills are in the current Wallabies team. The fact is many of our players have gradually got worse over the past few years. They look confused and unsure about how to play the game. Slowly but surely a good team of good players has come to look more and more like a bunch of average players who’ve never pulled on the same jersey before.
Suggested questions for Rugby Australia's end-of-season review
Brett, I think you’re spot on when you say “If Cheika is indeed delivering the right messages to the team, it’s very debateable that they’re being comprehended”. He may very well have the right game plans but a coach has to do more than just say the words. The coach has to make the players feel, live and breathe the game plan. It’s not good enough that they understanding a few diagrams on the whiteboard. It has to feel natural to them to play that way. And if anything is obvious from watching the WBs play it’s that they feel uncomfortable and lost out there. Cheika is not communicating.
As for what we do now, the sooner we start to rebuild the better. A new setup may not improve our chances for the RWC but at least we might be playing some reasonable rugby and get a good start come 2020. But then there’s the money, of course.
England loss confirms Wallabies are no closer to RWC success
Cliff, Sheikh, I couldn’t agree more. There are long periods when Folau is just missing, partly because he just doesn’t seem interested and partly because he can’t read the game. Great players are notable for their skill in getting into the game, being where the action is. By that measure, Folau is definitely not a great. He was easily caught last week when he took the intercept, and was jogging in the background rather than trying to catch up with the play when Italy scored one of their ‘almost’ tries. I’m not convinced his star status has done the team any good either. A lot of players work harder than he does but he still gets all the attention and the plaudits.
The Test winger merry-go-round
jeznez, I agree. Fresh players look far more organised, confident and capable than the guys who’ve been in the squad for a while. Under the current set-up it seems that the more coaching they’re exposed to the worse their form is. Maybe it’s just lack of confidence because of the number of losses this year but I suspect there’s more to it than that. After all, this gradual decline has been going on for 3 years now
Combinations and chemistry take time. Why haven't we been patient?
“Eddie sold the Australian rugby public a dream.”
I certainly wasn’t among them. This was never likely to end any other way. His interactions with the press are not just embarrassing but an insight into Eddie – combative, erratic, and unable or unwilling to engage in any sort of in depth discussion about what’s happening. He goes through assistant coaches at almost the same rate he goes through players, surely not a sign of a cohesive and focused team environment. He’s a salesman whose product is past its use-by date but he managed to sell it HMcL regardless. At least that adds evidence to my theory formed in over half a century in the corporate world – the easiest people to sell a dodgy product to are other salesman.
But I think what annoys me the most about the last 3 months is that the Wallabies actually got worse. Injuries aside, they just looked increasingly lost every game. If the coaches can’t communicate clearly to the players then we need different coaches.
Thanks for dropping by, Eddie and Hamish. Let me show you to the door.
Yes Eddie, we really are sitting here thinking 's--t, what's this bloke on about?'