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Over the years, there have been certain players who sent the proverbial willies up us Kiwi fans. Players who caused a lump to develop…
They were revered as one of the most potent bowling attacks in world cricket. However, for the past six Tests, it has been revealed…
Rob you’ve obviously had little to no experience playing the game have you? If you did you would appreciate the psychology behind sledging [verbal abuse] and the advantage it gives to the feilding team. Why do you think all of the great Australian teams of the past were proficient sledgers? But that’s just analogous to the main point. The main point is that Australia are going through a cultural shift and its taking them to a place they are far from comfortable with, a place that is respectful, transparant, honourable and nice. It’s a far cry from the good old days of swearing, intimidating, frothing at the mouth, headbutting, verbal abuse, etc. Australia won’t ever return to the top until they get back to what they’re good at.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
Tell me Frazer, since they were caught cheating in Africa and were forced to confront their ‘cultural’ issues what kind of results have the team had? To say this has nothing to do with the change of culture is simply a state of denial. It’s fascinating to see them go from the frothing, spitting, head butting, swearing, sledging fast bowler to smiling, polite, angels who ask if the batter is okay after every ball.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
Tell me Paul, what’s happened to all the angry, frothing, spitting, swearing, headbutting champion fast bowlers Australia used to produce? I kinda miss them and I bet most of Australia do too. At least that’s what the results are proving.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
Stop burrying your head in the sand Paul and crawl out from that rock that you’ve been hiding under. You’re simply in denial. Here’s what your own countrymen are saying about the need to chnage the culture in the Australian team…
““We need to change how we play and the boundaries in which we play. Previously we butted heads on the line but that’s not the way for us to go about playing cricket going forward.” Daren Lehmann
“If we take a leaf out of New Zealand’s book, the way they play and respect the opposition….we do respect the opposition, but we push the boundaries on the ground. We have to make sure to respect the game, and its traditions.” — Boof Lehmann
“The Australian cricket team itself is not a popular cricket team, and a lot of their antics on the field have upset a lot of people,” — Allan Border
“I agree all member countries, including Australia, need to show more accountability for their team’s conduct. Winning is important, but not at the expense of the laws and spirit of the game.” — James Sutherland
“I have been bitterly disappointed watching the Australian cricket team over the last few years. The behaviour has been boorish and arrogant. The way they’ve gone about their business hasn’t been good, and it hasn’t been good for a while.” –Mickey Arthur.
“We just got a little bit wrapped up in our self-importance. We should think of others more” — Tim Paine.
I could go on, Gilchrist, Border, Waugh, Ponting have all stated that the culture needs to change, but I guess Paul that’s not enough for you so go back to living in denial.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
You never addressed the point in your first reply Paul and your dismissive attitude in your second reply shows you are completely clueless about the change of culture in team and the negative impact it is having on the attack. You’re simply in denial but that is to be expected I suppose.
PS Those two were never in the running anyway.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
@ DJDJ – Analysis? Dead wickets yet 3 results? Bowlers are buggered, yet this is what they’re paid to do? Form? That’s not saying anything we don’t already know. Indian batting? Yet you rolled them in Perth. All of that is simply surface stuff that everyone knows. Not much of an analysis.
The problem is much deeper than what you assume. Dig deeper. It’s a culture problem. Put simply Australia are struggling to come to terms with new PC approach to the game. Until you master that or return to the old “win at all costs” mentality Aussie are screwed.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
You obviously missed my point! The missiles are certainly there but the new PC culture surrounding the team isn’t doing you any favours. It’s akin to firing missiles from a bb gun. Its very un-Australian and you sense the attack is fed up with this softly softly lovey dovey approach. As an aside three players the rest of the world are happy not to see in the test team are James Pattinson, Glen Maxwell and Joe Burns.
What happened to the Aussie attack?
What if I told you that the Wallabies will win the William Webb Ellis Trophy? You heard it here first.
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3 things.
1. Shift in culture – no longer a “win at all costs” approach has really hurt their attack. You sense they want to sledge, bite and bicker to get under the batsman’ skin but they are obviously under strict orders not to. Its very un-Australian. Remember its called an attack for a reason.
2. Captaincy – No disrespect to Paine but there’s a clear lack of trust between the bowling unit and the captain
3. No Sandpaper. Where is the prodigous reverse swing we were so used to seeing? 2017-18 Ashes ring a bell?
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I’m old enough to remember seeing froth and vitriol drip from the mouths of Pascoe, Lillie, Thomo, Hogg, McDermott, Reid, Hughes, McGrath etc, so yes I am able to compare the current crop and culture with the that of the past and no it wasn’t the stuff of faiytales and folk lore. It was real and it was awesome. Can’t imagine Lillie, Thomo, Hughes, McGrath being restricted to the PC culture currently espoused by the current crop of players and expect by the ACB.
Since we’re on the subject of culture I wonder why you all of a sudden appeal to the return of the days of Border and Waugh, et al? Surely you realise those guys built their empires upon a “win at all costs” culture, including if it meant cheating and lying and playing outside of the spirit of the game. Greg Dyer’s ‘catch’ down leg, Chappel under-arm, Waugh’s ‘don’t walk if you nick it’, Lillie’s histrionics ring a bell?
The point is this, Rob, the new PC approach is very un-Australian and it appears not to be working. A return to the old paths and dark arts is what Aussie need to do to become winners again. I miss that mongrel.
What happened to the Aussie attack?