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No one can argue that the Wallabies are going particularly well. Many predicted England would be a tough foe, but on home soil, the…
It was certainly heartbreaking to watch the Boomers capitulate against Serbia. Up until that point, it really did seem like a fairytale run from…
No one can question the commitment and passion of Michael Cheika; a coach who stood up in a time of need and answered the…
All of that might be true but it’s all about results still.
In the age of political correctness, i actually find Cheika quite refreshing. But none of it matters if the Wallabies can’t do better.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
From a South African perspective, a well selected and well coached team is probably what they think is the key to winning as well.
So Cheika will just decide to do this on Saturday ? Will he learn anything ?
A well-selected and well-coached Wallabies side will beat the Springboks
The ARU were disgraced ?
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Alternative ? Could it be that Michael Cheika is ultimately responsible for the way the Wallabies are currently going ? Regardless of the impending arrival of a league convert who we haven’t even seen at super level yet let alone the national team ?
New Rebel Koroibete is one answer to Cheika's problems
I can’t believe Larkham seems to be getting more criticism than Cheika though.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Good to hear Rob C
All i can say is that i respect the preference for a particular style many believe Jake White might threaten, but i don’t agree with it. So we’re poles apart on that.
But i think you will proven to be wrong about him or someone like him not being able to do more than Cheika. I’m convinced of the opposite.
While we’re on this subject, i think he’s clever enough to find a balance between his own style and what the public apparently want to see without sacrificing a winning intention. I would put my Roar cred on the line for that.
Personally. i love the arm wrestle anyway. But the point is we shouldn’t deny ourselves the best coach because of style or nationality.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
How long should MC be given until he decides to pick a balanced team ? After all, he’s the selector and therefor responsible for it. How long should he be given to experiment with things ?
This is an approach that his predecessors would’ve been hung out to dry for.
Ever changing styles of rugby culminating in mismatched Wallabies sides
Thank you
But why would Larkham go before Cheika ?
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
That would of been the more sensible option. And if Cheika didn’t like that, then too bad.
Nobody, obviously we can’t change anything now but it’s not irrelevant. It’s worth reflecting on because only a minority of people foresaw the potential danger of how this might unfold and it needs to be examined.
Even if the All Blacks are too good, we can still control the integrity of our performance.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
How you doing today Rob C ?
I can’t come up with a better coach. That’s the problem. Unfortunately one does not exist currently within Australia. So don’t you think it would be wise to broaden the search ?
The problem is that if we limit our policy to whoever won the last super rugby title, then we do our best coaches a massive disservice unknowingly. They were not the best candidates, they were only the best candidates within a narrow playing field.
In my view, our two best Super Rugby coaches should still be coaching there. Or in some other capacity within the national setup with the intention of possibly succeeding somebody. That somebody has to be foreign.
All that’s happened now is that Ewen, who i think is a better all round coach than Cheika, has probably been lost to Australian rugby forever.
What’s going to happen to our other most promising coach in recent times ? What happens if the Wallabies lose another test at home ? If everyone blamed Ewen for the state of the Wallabies, then what happens if Cheika can’t do better ? You don’t get this problem with a ‘gun for hire’ type coach like Jake White. Btw it doesn;t have to be Jake White. He’s just the obvious example
So instead of there being healthy competition to succeed the Wallabies, it will just come down to one candidate every time because our most promising coaches have been chewed up and spat out before their time.
The ARU are so unwise and most people can’t see it. Stubbornness will hurt us before anything else. They have no idea what they’re doing.
Jake White said he didn’t get the job because he’s not Australian, And he’s exactly right. This is what you get when you don’t think about things enough, Cheika doesn’t know what to do. What do they do now ? .
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
well, i don’t think it’s as simple as just saying that. If you did in fact mean to say you felt as if that’s the main reason for the Wallabies being poor this season ? Or did i miss something else ?
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Ruck, i think there’s a reasonable amount of straight forward truth in how you sum it up.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Yes he just might not be up to it quite simply. My fear is that he’ll be excused of the so far abysmal start to the RC and then we’ll be told that we have to give them patience as they embark on a total rebuild.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Cheers Grapeseed !
I think the only logical explanation for that is to give Timani a go surely ?
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Hi Rob,
“The Check halo effect is gone. Judgement cannot wait til end of the year. It has to be every week, every game.”
That was more or less my point.
All i mean by ‘final judgment’ is that we obviously have to wait until after the RC to see how much they improve or not. He won’t be sacked i’m sure.
I don’t buy into this belief that no one else could do better anyway. You’d be surprised.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
David,
It’s not about how much the athletes themselves are getting paid, it’s how much funding they get.
So it doesn’t even compare to any of those points about the wealth of team sports and such.
The truth about Rio: Our athletes simply didn't do the business
Do the two scenarios even compare ?
South Africa won their series against Ireland. They also held of Argentina at home. The away game in Argentina is becoming increasingly tricky. They’re not the first and won’t be the the last to lose there.
How is their start on level terms with the Wallabies ?
The Big Rugby Championship Question: The case of the least-worst losers
Stubbornness may well be our ultimate downfall.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Agreed. Premierships are built off a solid and settled back 6.
AFL trade rumours: Port give Hamish Hartlett a push
Not everyone. And sometimes his popularity shields objectivity in my view.
Of course we can perform fundamentals. The question is why do they make the same mistakes and where does the responsibility ultimately lie when they do ?
Our teachings and level of development may well be inferior to that of NZ but it’s not the point. It doesn’t mean that they CAN’T perform fundamentals. The question is what are our coaches doing to drill this very important level of discipline if it keeps happening.
I don’t fly any flag for Jake White, but i did notice the Brumbies perform the simple fundamentals a lot better in his time. I can’t explain the deep link of getting these guys to throw accurately or hold onto catches but it was certainly acknowledged as well as improved upon while he was there. I find that interesting.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Lara, even more of a reason to look overseas in my view. I strongly stand by the belief that nationality should make no difference.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Thank you, that’s very kind.
Really ? sounds like an interesting read. I’ll have to get my hands on it.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
scapegoated ? Who else do you ask questions of when a team that should be better isn’t ?
Success and performance are two different things.
No one expects them to better than the All Blacks, but they certainly want to see a better go of it than what we’ve seen so far.
I think Australian rugby almost overestimates itself when it’s confident but underestimates itself when it struggles.In any case, the expectation has to be higher. 42-8 & 29-9 are not good enough.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Buckman, I wouldn’t of appointed Chieka in the first place. I thought the whole thing was a rushed into.
I think it’s that common afterglow that you get with a highly anticipated coaching change. We see it so much in world sport. The challenge is then to maintain it.
It certainly shouldn’t get in the way of the successful world cup campaign but i do agree with you on that. There was something missing that me wonder how this team would transition in to what we see now.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses
Yes, i agree that his appointment was rushed. I wrote an article about it. And instead of saying ‘too early’ i wish i had said something along the lines of ‘if it turned out he was good enough’ as i don’t think the hot seat of coaching should be reserved but more so earn’t beyond doubt.
Which makes you wonder why they resigned him for so long ? Again-rushed.
I don’t know who should replace ( if it came to that). Plus i don’t think he should be sacked yet. But if you really want to know, i’m a big Jake White fan. He was very close when Ewen got the job and no doubt wants it. I’m not sure either party are likely to go down that path now though. But there’s so many quality coaches in the world that we don’t have to worry about that. The real issue is if it would be right to sack Cheika ?
You might be right about Larkham, but Cheika is still responsible. If we have a coach who’s responsible for defending and a coach who’s responsible for generating scoring then what does the head coach do ? They all combine together to form an approach but Cheika is the man.
Why Cheika is still the right man, but shouldn't be given excuses