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Defence is an attitude and for a large portion of the time period in question, South’s attitude stunk/stinks with the exception of a handful of players.
Recruitment has been appalling. I’m surprised that the CEO, board and recruitment have escaped scrutiny.
I believe many fans were accepting of Reynolds leaving because they trusted the club had a plan and had identified a player to replace him. No knock on Illias’s effort but he is miles from being a quality NRL half back. That’s what has upset most fans IMO, how could they get it so wrong?? That’s just one example of horrible recruitment/ succession. Their depth is horrible, particularly in the outside backs and middles. They haven’t targeted a strong running, fast winger since Lote, Latrell doesn’t like returning kicks, Johnston more of a finisher than a post contact metre eater then throw in Milne, Thompson et al, who again try hard but struggle under the high ball and are more endowed with the speed of a front rower than an outside back.
Too old, too slow: Do these two stats explain why Souths have fallen off a cliff in 2024?
Nor Bennett should, he has runs on the board. JD, not so much as a head coach.
It’s looking like the only smart thing they’ve done. How much they’ll have to pay Latrell to leave, if they can’t get him to fire for whatever reason. That could be the one that really hurts the rebuild. I hope he can turn it around, at his best, not many better to watch.
Demetriou facing sack after Souths' disastrous start with Bennett, Bellamy, Burgess possible replacement options
100%
Demetriou facing sack after Souths' disastrous start with Bennett, Bellamy, Burgess possible replacement options
Perhaps the only good business decision they’ve made in the last few years.
Solly, Ellison et al will be cheering all the heat is on JD, they are the ones who have helped the team into this predicament and are seemingly escaping the media spotlight. It does highlight a culture of zero accountability, hopefully, not for much longer.
Demetriou facing sack after Souths' disastrous start with Bennett, Bellamy, Burgess possible replacement options
Yep, with AJ out, if they weren’t the slowest backline in the comp before, they definitely are now and by a long way. They have neglected to look at any outside backs who are both quick and strong ball carriers. They haven’t had one of them since Lote retired. It’s glaringly obvious.
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I hope there was also some discussion around defence and effort areas as I think that has been the biggest difference between souths and their opponents so far. The odd dropped ball, mistimed pass etc all happens and is held under a microscope when a team is out of form and losing as regularly as South have been, however, I think thats more a symptom rather than the cause.
Apart from a handful of players, the effort just doesn’t seem to be there, particularly in defence. To concede over 30 points a game for such an extended period is a major concern. The lack of resilience in that area and willingness to work together has been the biggest disappointment for mine.
Couple this with poor kick pressure and kick chase, it’s a recipe for disaster as the stats show.
We all know defence is an attitude and Souths attitude stinks.
If there is to be a turnaround, their attitude needs to be readjusted and hard work in defence and the other effort areas should be their priority.
Do the hard work and it will be amazing how often the ball/passes start to stick.
'We're carrying the burden of last season': What sports psychology can teach Souths about making mistakes
Last time I checked, finishing 7th is still miles better than the wooden spoon, so yes, comprehension skills and all.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
Manly’s defence in round 1 was horrible.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
What part of “South’s will do well to avoid the spoon” does not suggest south’s are in a very big hole?? Further, I mentioned Roosters will probably finish around 5-6th.
I’d suggest most people with even the most basic of comprehension skills would think that suggests south’s are in a bigger hole than the roosters.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
He didn’t hold him at all, at no point. Was Teddy grabbed. Teddy initially pushes Latrell with about the same force as Latrell pushed Teddy. A very soft decision.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
True but the Broncos look a shadow of the side they were last year. Dominated through the middle by Manly and smashed a very ordinary Souths side who will do well to avoid the spoon. You may not be getting ahead of yourself but social media and the mainstream media certainly seem to be. I honestly don’t think you have the pack to be top 4 and Keary is another head knock away from a long stint on the side lines if not retirement.
To clarify, my bounce of the ball comments were in reference to tonight’s game.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
Tedesco was the cynical one. That dive was 1st class. He also initiated contact with a push in the back. A very soft decision but Latrell probably needed a break after all that effort anyway.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
Further, while Illias clearly wasn’t the only problem, he isn’t a first grade footballer let alone the “the best 7 this club will ever have” or words to that effect.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
Really not sure it’s a gauge of the Roosters credentials. They were playing a team deep in crisis. I’m not sure any but the most delusional fan, thought south’s would win.
The roosters, while they can only play what’s in front of them, had more than their fair share of luck, with 3-4 tries off kicks. South’s were never in the game and were never going to be.
Roosters beat a misfiring Broncos, just, who have issues of their own, were completely outplayed by Manly as well.
I might e wrong but I don’t see them finishing in the top 5-6, unless they keep getting bounces of the ball like they did tonight.
Demetriou has 'no doubt' he can turn around Souths after disaster derby sees Latrell binned in Roosters riot
So a roar article 5 years ago, now supports your ABC Grandstand.
Common sense and the bleeding obvious are no match for that. I’m retiring to my chambers, secure in the knowledge that the game is not lopsided and that any team is a chance and we have enough good players and coaches to support the 17 teams and the rubbish dished up by this final series is another anomaly.
ANALYSIS: Good luck everyone else as Penrith have way To'o much power - but Storm did everything to help them
Oh yeah. Cleary isn’t a highly rated coach? By whose metrics?
Wow
ANALYSIS: Good luck everyone else as Penrith have way To'o much power - but Storm did everything to help them
Well then, if they said it on ABC Grandstand, it must be true. MMM recently spoke about the comp being lopsided.. who to believe?
Or we can have our opinions and back them up, like I have been doing. That you don’t agree is fine but nothing you have said make as strong case against it.
Go well.
ANALYSIS: Good luck everyone else as Penrith have way To'o much power - but Storm did everything to help them
I think you may have missed the point a little. Since the middle of the year, when South’s fell off a cliff, it really has just been a two horse race. Yes injuries etc can always be a great leveller, however, no team has looked like beating Penrith or the Broncos at the pointy end of the season (although I’m hoping for a Wahs upset)
This has been true, as you correctly point out for the last few years. It’s always been Melbourne, Roosters, Panthers and to a lesser extent The Bunnies. I’m happy for the Broncos to be in that mix as it does add a new contender but still, it’s a pretty lopsided comp when 5/17 are genuine contenders, that dropped to 2-3/ 17 this year, perhaps the definition of lopsided.
Coach wise, at best 5- 6 genuine coaches. Could there be some developing? possibly and let’s hope so.
Also, some may just need a change of scenery to ignite them again.
In regards to the Panthers, you may have missed my point about their development pathways, it’s second to none and as I said, they are reaping the rewards but it’s not that different really to what’s happened in decades because as you point out, while the premiers haven’t been the same team 3x in a row for a long time, the premiers have come from an extremely small pool hence the competition, in my opinion, is lopsided. Entertaining week to week, sure, but nonetheless come September/ October it has been the same, well almost the same story.
Hopefully 2024 bring something different, actually, let’s hope for a Wahs panthers GF with a Wahs win. That would be great.
ANALYSIS: Good luck everyone else as Penrith have way To'o much power - but Storm did everything to help them
Hopefully now, people can stop pretending that it’s not a lopsided comp and has been for years. The top 8 was one of the weakest it’s been for a long, long time.
In saying that, full credit to the Panthers, their development pathway is second to none and it’s cost them relatively little money to expand into the bush and they are reaping the rewards.
The addition of the Dolphins, while a feel good story, has weakened the talent pool. The lack of quality coaches and administrators is also a concern.
Anyway, let’s hope the Wahs can spring an upset. It’s depressing having to switch over to channel 7 to see two competitive teams.
ANALYSIS: Good luck everyone else as Penrith have way To'o much power - but Storm did everything to help them
Definitely not trying to shield JD from his share of the blame, just baffled how the board and Ellison have escaped the spotlight to a large degree. The press conference after Sammy left, really was a train wreck and full of bull shite.
While Reynolds left because he couldn’t get his 2 years, south’s offered him 1 with an option of 2, it wouldn’t have mattered if there was an actual 7 that was NRL level had been identified. Just one in a long list of baffling calls that is blowing up in their face. Solly and the board have a career in politics when they get the arse from South’s. nothing is their fault and seemingly, there isn’t much in the way of accountability.
I was a little harsh, Saturday night, effort levels did increase, which was good to see.
Too old, too slow: Do these two stats explain why Souths have fallen off a cliff in 2024?