Bring back the Bears, move on Manly and Roosters to Christchurch and Adelaide, and then add a North Brisbane Entity and a Perth Pirates team, Voila!.
Manly need more support NZ south Island can give them that, Roosters need their own city, one that preferably doesnt have a junior base (as they don’t have much in that respect, but can grow one in Adelaide, without neighbouring clubs souths, cronulla and stgeorge affecting them)
Norths can base in Central Coast Stadium, with a few games in NSO, and Allianz stadium, Souths can stay there at Allianz fulltime.
Perth is a no brainer, but needs Marque signings asap
North Brisbane Entity servicing Redcliffe & Sunshine Coast, but play mostly out of Suncorp, and 3 games in sunshine coast, and redcliffe, (much like Wests tigers do for leichardt, campbelltown, WSS)
Titans take more games to Logan,Ipswich Toowoomba, and suncorp, less in Gold Coast, change their name to South QLD Titans, & Panthers to take more games west to Bathurst, Orange and Dubbo, name change to Greater Western Panthers.
Cronulla Travel to Fiji, Samoa and Tonga every year

Im pretty sure your dead right, although i do remember russel crowe stating he wouldnt be caught dead sharing a stadium with easts, so homebush ended up being the next logical stadium.

Yes this correct away fans, might be an issue, although if those 20k figures were consistent in the first year way back then without away game supporters, it could be even better now, i know this isn’t the same as a full time team, but state of origin sold out in days over there, maybe its worth trying a fulltime team, aswell as a private charter plane exclusively for the NRL,
Maybe ask Uncle Nick to buy one for everyone in the NRL to use to travel around, as he might need one anyway so he can go back an forth from Adelaide.

@concerned supporter
Are on your way to buying a membership?
Is that what your doing, youve unfortunately missed out on two rounds, one of them was at the SFS, you could have gone! Boo, next year remember to buy your membership before the season starts, you know SO YOU DONT MISS OUT ON GOING TO THE GAME!

Im sure there is another 6000+ people who will buy memberships by round 20 or so, so they can watch the mighty chooks play their last few games and really support them come finals!! YAY!!!!

When you quote someone here on this forum, you basically are making them re-read someone elses post all over again, dave please just press “reply” mate, we can read your comments quicker that way

Criteria for membership stats isnt BS it shows that fans put there money in to that club, yes you could have more/less people show up on game days, many prefer couch than stadium atmosphere, and away games can affect your travelling or bad wet weather too, but Memberships are solid, whether you turn up or not is inconsequential, basically 13710 of the roosters fans, put their hard earned money into being a member of that club for this 2019 year, 5 months after they won the Grand Final, you had over 16k last year, what happened? Did the 2300+ all decide to work interstate, overseas? Or were these the SFS members from last year? No stadium, no extra members?
Stats here show Cronulla in the year 2016 they won, they had 14.3k in members, year after got more membership upto 15.7k, thats called a gain,

Coz Easts never HAD to merge or be culled, as all the other neighbouring teams from 1908 did, about time tradition should catch up to you, tradition of NRL relocations/rationalisation, drop manly or send them to Christchurch fulltime, and merge Sydney Rooster with Souths or send the roosters packing to a new city, they’re the only team that has never had to change their identity or leave the top grade from the inception.

Hehe you must be one of the few that actually turn up, so the attendance figures are correct, but they have even less support than that, too funny

Ok!
Still think there’s more souths members, than roosters, that attended the semi final
In 2018, but if you wanna talk shop about 2017 and the lowest average crowd go ahead, ill talk about something else, relocation maybe?, and pretty sure roosters have the 2nd worst memberships in sydney (despite being named sydney) even after they won a Grand Final.

The article here shows facts and figures, i read them, and am now telling you that your city slick slimey stealing roosters, are a perfect team for relocation, i suggest strongly that you increase your 1 home game in Adelaide to 11, and stop pretending to represent my city as your self proclaimed “Sydney”, besides South Sydney basically border most of your area anyways, they might aswell play at Allianz after its built.

Dont confuse memberships with average attentance

Funny that, i was at more games than you, but i didn’t see you, i called out ‘hey dave’
yet only johns replied!
figures buddy, not bias opinions on who chanted better,
guaranteed souths outnumbers rooster fans, the fact there needs to be validation of this is nonsensically hilarious

Australia isnt big enough to sustain relogations/promotion, what happens when melbourne have been relogated, or Newcastle, Brisbane? and you cannot ask only Sydney clubs to do it, thats an unfair/unjust advantage to other clubs.
Same goes if you promote, your essentially promoting a team that will not match the playing talent if the NRL clubs, who will struggle then again be relegated the following years, it takes time to build strong clubs, Cowboys took 10 years to make finals, took them another 10 to win it.
Melbourne were an instant success, due to perth and hunter folding into them, plus NEWS Ltd support, relegation wont work!
you’ve watched too much soccer, the nature of this sport and the localitity prevents it from existing here

Random Rugby League fans buy Grand Final tickets way in advance, no telling what demographic was supported moreso than the other, aside from that grand final. Regarding the Semi 50/50 is a massive call, Galactic infact, 16k members for easts, and 29k members for souths, do the math, stop living in a bubble, i live in parra, but support Penrith and have most of my life, 2003 was glorious! That was a special GF,
as a panther fan im proud of the amount of membership we have, proud of the juniors and sick of the wealthier clubs stealling them. You lack support! The only club worse than the roosters is manly regarding a these stats. Good luck playing at SFS for the next 25 years in the NSW Cup. Money well spent

Not really, moving a financially stable brand to a new market would help purely do to how valuable it is, it has no ties to juniors, has a very small geographical footprint in the eastern suburbs. Lets say for example = if i were living in Adelaide and a ready made winning team with tradition and money came to town and wanted to be there to represent that city and only that city! I’d follow them.
Its a little bit different if Adelaide got relocated busted poorly mnanaged club

Sorry Roy, but it’s not rooster bashing, if its true, besides the roosters called themselves “Sydney” it was realistically the only way to get more new fans, to follow them, as other clubs are moreso specific to there own local area, The labeling yourself sydney doesnt represent me, they tried to be the Brisbane Broncoes, but forget they need to form from the amalgamated BRL, like they had, to have support that represent the whole city. and basically, really be the Only team in the town. We have 9 clubs here!
They sicken me, to the core, and im not a even a souths fans!

Cronulla might be in that culdesuc you mentioned, but just last week they announced that theyll be playing 2 home games east of them, east being Pacific, you dont just have to be locked by land, sharks can swim, and sea eagles can fly, more games in Christchurch, like the one this weekend could save manly, or it could help spread the geographical reach of the NRL to south Island NZ if they decided to stay there permanently

Sorry but a semi final doesnt count towards the average home attendance figures for supporters, it just breaks the record for supporters of a semi final at that ground.
Last game could have been Cronulla vs Penrith, weeks prior, or vs Cronulla which got 24k as the semi finals dictatated that only sydney based teams had to play either at ANZ or Allianz, im pretty sure the fact it was vs South Sydney why the large number, don’t confuse the 44k of that attentance as Easts fans, i’d venture it would have been 14k easts to souths 30k,
Remarkable how the perception of the word “Sydney” is, its really insulting when youve lived here your whole life and follow a team, and as tribal as all teams are, there’s always one that decides they are above the rest,
How about merging with another club? =Nope.
How about relocation? =No way.
Well got any juniors? =Some, Somewhere.
what say we just boot you out?, =Ow nah man we are a foundation club!.
Yeah so was Newtown, Souths, Norths,
Balmain, and Wests, so what makes you so special? =We’re Rich! We can buy talent, don’t necessarily need to produce it, and have a Salary Sombero, Courtesy of Uncle Nick.
What happens when he isn’t there anymore, lets say 20+years from now?

Nope.
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Dare say not close to the match of the round, might only be parramattas yard stick match, as is the panthers yard stick match against storm, but thats it.
Fans of Blake Ferguson would enjoy this, but im more interested to see Wests V Dogs pans out, not last years ladder bookends

Right on the money this article,
Also on a side note, there is a anzac day match that they held at the SCG that brought in 40k of fans to watch, and another game in Adelaide, which overblows the roosters average in 2017 or 2018, which would make it considerably worse if had they kept those home games at SFS, i cannot see how they escape the criteria based on their lack of support, and junior catchments, i would prefer they move or atleast play games at gosford and NSO, and include the North Sydney Bears catchment, since they are now their feeder club, aswell as rename themselves North Sydney Roosters, as the NRL has 9 clubs in the Sydney Region, how dare they call themselves “SYDNEY” atleast revert to Eastern Suburbs if you want to be taken seriously

Its also funny how one person would speak for all of QLD, in saying having another brisbane team is not on, im sure there are plenty of people in the sunshine state that would want another team in Qld, and especially in or around brisbane, plus having more games at suncorp stadium is a no brainer, its not like anyone is asking to fill up brisbane with 8.5 teams as sydney has, and yes not all teams in sydney are successful, but the NRL has grown out of the NSWRL comp, as AFL had grown out of the VFL comp, so eventually either teams will decrease or relocate, or become stable and continue on, but i would welcome more teams in heartland areas, that want to be a part of the comp, than push for a new team in a new city that doesn’t care for league, just to pin it on a map

This i feel is correct, you’ll alienate fans who are current fans of the tigers or souths if this idea of relocations takes place, but also might strengthen it also if a city that hasn’t got an NRL presence like perth or Adelaide gains traction in those cities, but in saying that i wouldn’t relocate a sydney team to brisbane/QLD as the fans wouldn’t take to a NSW club moving there

Read the history books and learn why there is 9 teams based in sydney, the Nrl grew from the NSWRL, as did AFL grew from the VFL, geographically its not ideal, but there is history, and growth that stems from that. You cannot just invent a league from scratch and plonk 2 teams in each city… hope for the best.
These comps existed way before grandaddy was a sperm. The clubs are not just new branded gold coast franchises from either code. They have legacy.. and if i see one more merger of cronulla and stgeorge thread ill go nuts, they are sworn rivals, just like easts and souths, same as penrith and parra.
Norths are gone but if they come back, expect manly to be their rival too
The mergers that are still around only worked coz they weren’t rivals and had something to gain from it, i dont see anymore mergers taking place, only relocations or bust

Personally i wouldn’t merge anyone, relocate yes, to places that dont have a strong junior base like Perth, Adelaide, Hobart or Darwin, but never relocate any to QLD, and i’d break the current mergers, and see each club stand alone, then drop whoever couldnt cope to nsw cup, which basically has those teams anyway, but theyd be somewhat stronger, as the mergers are all lope sided, and not contributing down to junior level on the lower sides.
Also the idea of this article is what most fans think until its their own club involved
But i must agree, souths/easts merged dogs/dragons and parra/penrith, is stupidity
Especially since they are fierce rivals, i mean penrith is 30km away from parra
And parra is 20kms away from the city
Between them there is tigers,dogs and rabbits in that 20kms stretch, but no go on and merge the other way

I wasn’t trying to bash the titans, i actually like them, but if they are the view of what a new branded team will look like and the fact that they have no excuses being a one town team, what chances are the pirates or bombers or any brand new franchise going to have, all i was saying is there is value to having a relocation vs a new start up franchise, i personally would love to see some sydney teams relocate to christchurch, perth, adelaide, darwin and hobart basically every major city rugby league doesn’t have one, i could easily follow a team from another city, foxtel coverage allows me that, more importantly the game would be better for it, everyone craps on about the reds, crushers and rams not working out, but give them 20 +yrs like cowboys, warriors and storm have then you’d like how did we never have a melbourne team sooner, whereas now its all about wheres perth? Well we had it, but trimming the league down to 14 teams, plus SL making the reds pay for away teams, didn’t help rl in wa, and even tho they got good average crowd numbers there (better than some clubs in sydney) still ended up folding anyways, back 25years ago the cost of travel was a lot more than it is now, its quite affordable now to have a comp with perth, NZ and top end qld, but in 97 you be paying millions in travel costs for any team per year.