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Avid Tigers supporter, but also a soft spot for the Bulldogs.

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Yeah exactly – and I agree, the SL wars are definitely the pace to start (I can’t believe there isn’t some definitive doco after all these years).

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Thanks mate! Agree with what you say about the montage stuff too – the fact that this is already being produced at a pretty high level by online users (eg the best tries of the week series by “The Sporting Life” on YouTube) should be an incentive to the NRL to produce some better documentary content!

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Or maybe a mashup? Wayne Bennett: Master of Puppets.

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Yep agree…imagine how good a doco on Bennett and Bellamy would be: “The inscrutables”

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

The problem is that so many footy books are written in such an inert and uninspired manner (and often ghost written). I’d love to see a really good doco crew get their hands on some of these stories. It’d be great, too, to have a doco crew follow a team over the course of a season so we coud follow the highs and lows behind the scenes in real time – imagine following the Sharks, Panthers or Cowboys this year!

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Cool, will check that one out…I vaguely remember it now but never watched it at the time

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Yeah I totally agree – I’ve often wanted a good documentary account of the Super League wars but haven’t been able to find one. I also can’t believe that there hasn’t been a good doco – or even series – on the Rabbitohs. I seem to remember that there were occasional TV specials on some of these issues, but I’ve got no idea where to find them now. What we want is a 30 for 30 style series – although it would have to be more modest – going through these fascinating flashpoints. It would also be a great way to dig some old footy footage out of the archives, since there’s an enormous number of iconic games and moments that are unavailable anywhere online. The only thing I’ve seen recently that comes close was that special on Jarryd Hayne: Living the Dream (and even that could have been way better – with all the media hype, why was there never an actual doco about Hayne adapting to California and NFL conditions? That would have been genuinely fascinating).

2017 should be the year of the NRL doco

Excellent article – completely agree. Above and beyond stats, Teddy seems to have a knack for building creative moments and surprising situations out of nothing when the time is right – I reckon he’s the most idiosyncratic/creative fullback in the game, which is something we want to nurture at an Origin level too.

Blues have seven fullbacks, but only one 'Teddy'

Dave Taylor is not really the same – he only played at the Broncos for four years and he’s nowhere near as identified with the club as Benji was with the Tigers. It’s also not that Tigers fans are suddenly mourning Benji’s departure from the Dragons either, but more that his move to the Broncos throws into relief a whole lot of other things that have happened in terms of the club and its legacy over the last twelve months.

Strange times for Tigers fans

Right, but it’s not about Benji being as good as Hunt – nobody would argue that – but about the way in which Bennett may be using Benji’s contract to force Hunt to revise his salary expectations as well as how that may induce Hunt to look elsewhere.

Strange times for Tigers fans

Sure, but Ado-Carr was about potential and promise rather than an extensive tenure with the club – which is presumably why the Storm signed him. It’d be like if Melbourne had managed to sign Nathan Cleary six games into his debut for the Panthers – it’s the sense of a lost opportunity more than anything else.

Strange times for Tigers fans

Sure, but the vast majority of Halatau’s career was played at the Tigers (an entire decade), plus his time at the Tigers also bookended his career – it’s one thing to play the majority of your career at a club, and another thing when your time at the club opens and closes your career. I know that when he returned to Leichhardt Oval there was a really strong sense of him returning home. Really, his tenure with the Dogs was more of a blip – only four years, compared to the ten at Leichhardt. The fact that he was a toiler is neither here nor there – often it’s those players who come to feel most iconic in a struggling club that has to toil to put points on the table.

Pat Richards may have spent most of his career at Wigan, but his role in the 2005 final makes him still feel iconic to fans, as well as the fact that, like Halatau, he also returned to the club in the latter part of his career. I know that, from his Twitter presence, he still very much identifies with the Tigers (not unlike Keith Galloway in that respect).

Not sure what you mean by Benji’s move to the Broncos not being divisive – not being divisive for who? It’s certainly divisive for Broncos fans who are concerned about Ben Hunt being edged out. I know heaps of Tigers fans, too, for whom it has encapsulated the disappointment of Benji leaving Leichhardt, as well as the disappointment of his inability to ever recapture the form he showed in the early parts of his career.

Strange times for Tigers fans

So what? Cameron Smith is an asset so different standards of sportsmanship apply?

The myth of Cameron Smith

Yep, agree – well put

The myth of Cameron Smith

How is appropriating a fan gesture worse than setting out to injure players?

The myth of Cameron Smith

Yeah I guess I just don’t see what you’re describing as mere grubbiness or dirtiness – I think it’s bad sportsmanship, pure and simple, and much worse, on the whole, than anything in Mick Ennis’ back catalogue (I’m not a Storm or a Sharks supporter by the way, so speaking as a neutral observer).

The myth of Cameron Smith

Sure, but nobody’s denying either his brilliance or intelligence on the field…

The myth of Cameron Smith

Of course I saw it, but I don’t think it really contradicts what I’m trying to say here – it’s more the exception that proves the rule. Smith seems so used to media adulation that being excluded from this particular broadcast was a real shock to him and he responded in a fairly petulant manner as a result. In the same way, it’s easy to call him a good sport because he nearly always wins – when he’s on the losing end, he’s much less gracious, and often still tries to act as if he *has* won (his speech at the Grand Final was probably rehearsed as a victory speech and certainly played that way).

The myth of Cameron Smith

No doubt he’s a brilliant player, but I’m not really disputing that – more his perceived persona

The myth of Cameron Smith

I think there was some Fox option to watch it at 1:30, though I couldn’t figure out how to work it so just ended up watching the 7:30 version. I did like the Samoan commentators, although the audio wasn’t great at times…

Samoa's first Pacific Test brings the drama

Sure, that took away from the mood a bit but I did like the commentary overall – they sure love Kasiano!

Samoa's first Pacific Test brings the drama

I don’t really see how Cameron Smith’s speech makes up for the on-field behaviour: being well-spoken doesn’t necessarily make you a good sport.

Six things that shat me off about the NRL grand final

Thanks mate. Yeah, I don’t think Melbourne are done quite yet, but I think there have been a few moments of desperation this year that signal the beginning of the decline – or at least the end of their golden era. That footage of Slater and Cronk in the sheds has really stayed with me and would definitely play a part in my “summary reel” for the year…

Sharks deliver a mythical grand final

Agreed, the Barba try felt timeless and iconic…

Sharks deliver a mythical grand final

Agreed, NQ 200% deserved it. Amazing to see a team come from behind like that.

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