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Soccer is a concerning development in the history of the human race
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Yeah well, he plays for the Tahs, so naturally…
McKenzie puts his own stamp on the Wallabies
You’re assuming Graham will be about to mismanage them
Player power won't prevent O'Connor signing: Horwill
No. Just responsible for screwing up the Wallabies long enough for danger to pass.
Robbie Deans to coach in Japan
Firstly, Scotland was up for grabs, which goes to show that what you know about rugby can be scratched on the back of a saucer. If he was such a great coach that all is fanboys made him out to be then there’s plenty of nations that would’ve dropped their incumbents like a stone. But they didn’t.
Secondly, Top14 coaches get paid at least as much as coaches in Japan. But, then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if money wasn’t the prime object of the exercise. It must be tough not getting paid a million bucks a year to drive Australian rugby into the dirt.
Robbie Deans to coach in Japan
Magic Sponge
1. The 3 Amigos can be handled – Link proved that. Part of the reason they went off the rails is that nothing would happen to them when they played up. Deans just kept picking them, no matter.
2. How do you know he didn’t go for a “more challenging role”?
Robbie Deans to coach in Japan
Good luck to him but it goes to show what the rest of the world’s view of Deans is as a coach. To not land another national coaching job or one in provincial/club in the S15 or Europe speaks volumes.
Thankfully he’s gone but the damage he did to the wonderful opportunity provided by a wonderful generation of young Australian players is immeasurable.
Robbie Deans to coach in Japan
Going forward, can we do without Bill’s eHarmony profile photo?
SPIRO: The ARU gospel according to Bill Pulver
What’s with the photo of Pulver??? He looks like he’s posing for an eHarmony profile!
New third tier will save club rugby, not kill it
How about with his elbow? Can he use that? Maybe Clarke should wear a smurf mask so he can’t make nasty faces too.
Vaughan tells Clarke to stop pointing
Of course, you’re assuming that he has a mental illness. The use of the broad term “stress-related illness” smacked of weasel words. The subsequent attempt to blame David Warner, a man so evil that he uses his incredible powers of time travel and mind-reading to harass Trott instead of saving the world from climate change, smacked of cynical desperation. Regardless of whether Trott truly has a mental health condition, the episode plumbed new depths in bad sportsmanship.
On top of that is the mindless drivel of the self-righteous mob regarding Warner being disrespectful is a new low in confected outrage. Since when is stating that an opponent is “poor”, “weak” and has “scared eyes” been cause for criticism? If anything I’m disappointed at Warner’s inability to convey a concept in effective, well-constructed English terminology. The way some people are going on I don’t think many would survive a day in a kindergarten playground without bursting into tears.
To paraphrase Theodore Dalrymple, a man, now retired, who is one of Britain’s pre-eminent psychiatrists and writers: most people who claim to have depression aren’t depressed at all; they’re simply unhappy with the choices that they’ve made or, what they perceive as, their lot in life.
In other words, it’s dangerous to instantly assume a person claiming mental illness, actually has a mental illness. The propensity to do so is what actually trivialises the issue and creates alot of problems for the “sufferer” and, importantly, those around them. And, in fact, to tell someone to harden up, i.e learn to deal with the problem, is sometimes the best therapy.
Does Trott have clinically diagnosed anxiety and/or depression? We still don’t know. If he does, then why doesn’t the English team just say so? They obviously want people to think that he does. And there’s the trick: they’re trying to get the general public to believe something as a fact without actually stating the fact, thereby keeping open a path of retreat. If he does, then why is he on the tour? Why subject him to a grueling schedule?
So, I’m not dismissing mental health issues, particularly having suffered from a minor bout myself about 20 years ago, and having friends and family who’ve also dealt with it. I’m dismissing the trivialisation of it – the instant assumption that anyone who claims to have it, does have it. We are moving into the dangerous realm where personal responsibility is instantly presumed subordinate to mental health disorder and that every single mental health disorder is completely beyond the control of the sufferer. It’s not a black and white issue. The idea that those who claim to be suffering disorders are beyond reproach is preposterous and anti-scientific. I find it ridiculous to be lectured with puerile statements like “get an education”, by people who clearly have zero ability to be sceptical of the orthodoxy of victimhood ideology being fed to them.
Just a quick anecdote: I was having a beer at a pub in London last night and an English mate who I’ve locked horns with over cricket many a time said to me “It’s a crock. The whole thing. We weren’t born yesterday. There’s not a single person who knows about cricket who also thinks the [English] team’s not making excuses.”.
Bravo to Jonathan Trott for facing his demons
Soccer mentality means that the English simply can’t handle losing, so this is just the latest episode of plumbing the depths of bad sportsmanship by English sport teams and supporters. There’s no depths that you won’t go to. If England had won I’ll bet my house that Trott would still be there.
Clarke's sledge showed plenty of Grace
Well, that’s so much better. It was a brilliant excuse.
Clarke's sledge showed plenty of Grace
As I said on the other thread, I’ve never hid my opinions behind my keyboard. I’ve already stated my opinion on this matter to people around me and, often surprisingly, to their agreement. It’s amazing how modern media and political correctness has created a situation where so many people think so differently to their publicly voiced opinions for fear of being stamped on by their self-appointed moral superiors. This medium just happens to be one where people are relatively anonymous. I could make similar claims about the trivial posturing of the majority on these threads that would be downright embarrassing in a normal social situation. But I won’t.
Plenty of people suffer stress from various sources. Plenty of people suffer depression (not that it’s actually been cited, just inferred from a surprisingly reticent England management). I’ve had family and friends suffer from both. And I’ve suffered clinical depression once as a young man and needed psychiatric drugs to get me back on track. I don’t doubt that it exists and that it’s a real problem for those who suffer, as well as their friends, family and colleagues.
My point is this: that Trott was dealing out the sledging during this Test and in previous matches. He had no problem scoring 83 & 113 in tour games. I find it highly convenient that the moment his technique is exposed, he pulls the victim card and the egotistical low-lives that dominate the English team insinuate that he’s been bullied. I have no love for Warner but the implication that he somehow caused Trott’s predicament is absolutely disgraceful. This whole thing stinks to high heaven and, quite ironically given the dominant theme of the comments on this post, I think that it’s the England side that’s trivialised mental illness issues by using it as an excuse for theirs and Trott’s poor performance.
Maybe Warner should just declare that he’s stressed and everyone can just forgive him. After all, nobody is ever at fault for anything – particularly those who are gifted and successful.
Jonathan Trott: a personal perspective
Yeah. Calling Symonds a monkey was soooooooooo classy
Clarke's sledge showed plenty of Grace
I’m not a keyboard warrior. I’ve repeated exactly those words to many people around me here in London this morning. They and you can get all indignant but it doesn’t change my opinion of the matter. Trott needs to down a pint of concrete.
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
“Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse, playing cricket is not” – Keith Miller
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
Has he lost his parents in a car crash? Has he discovered his daughter has cancer? Has he lost his job and has large mortgage? Is he patrolling a poppy field in Afghan? That’s the stuff of stress. It’s people like you who trivialise mental health issues by pandering to precious petals and their dented egos.
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
Well, that seems to be exactly his excuse. All of us have stress. It’s a bit poor to pull that card because your technique has been found out. Mental health is a serious issue, not something that should be used to excuse an ego shattering experience.
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
The elephant in the room is that he’s a coward & sook whose ego can’t take the battering it’s just copped. He’s decided to hide behind something as serious as mental health issues as a cover. He scored 113 & 83 in his previous tour match innings, so it’s a pretty serious descent that’s apparently occurred.
Maybe Kim Hughes should’ve blamed stress. Poor bloke was in the wrong era.
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
Was he suffering stress when he scored 113 and 83 in the tour games?
Trott out of Ashes with stress-illness but Warner not to blame
Good on Link. It’s about time and the cross-section of convicted perps shows that there’s little room for favouritism in the Wallabies camp. The time for a beer is after the match, not 4 days before, and certainly not for a team whose winning streak was one match against the 12th ranked side in the world.
McKenzie cracks the discipline whip
the Reds are an absolute joke
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