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Guys who can’t even crack super rugby squads have gone to NZ and seen opportunity in their 5 existing teams.
Samu, Ala,alatoa, Fa’agase,
Debrecencie had , Roach, Volavola, Douglas just to names a few.
That is one of the more absurd things I’ve ever read on this site.
Fa’agase had 45 Reds appearances; he then played mainly Mitre10 Cup in NZ. Did he even get a game for the Highlanders?
Samu spent five years working his way up from Tasman to the Crusaders. He was in his early twenties when he came to NZ. Good coaching developed his talent.
Debrecenie had 54 games for the Rebels; in NZ, he got 7 for the Chiefs.
Hugh Roach had 49 games for Rebels and Waratahs; in NZ he got a few minutes in ONE game for the Crusaders (and got sent off!).
Volavola had 18 games for Rebels and Waratahs. In between those stints he had a mere 7 for the Crusaders.
Murray Douglas played 14 for the Rebels and Brumbies; he played 7 for the Hurricanes, mainly as a sub.
A solution to the latest trans-Tasman rugby pickle
I fear the take over by News Corp and their allies New Zealand Rugby
What??? NZR and Newscorp aren’t allies. Sky NZ is a NZ company. Newscorp had a 40 % stake in Sky NZ from 2005–2013. There now is no connection between the companies.
It’s time for Australian Rugby to end its toxic relationship with News Corp
Revenue for stadiums are not automatically split are they?
Not normally. But NZR has stated that in this case the gate money will be split. So Rugby Australia will get a nice donation from the NZ public… a bit like in the 1970’s.
New Zealand in box seat to host Rugby Championship
Unless they plan on splitting all profits
The broadcast revenue goes to SANZAAR and gets distributed to the members. How could you not know something so basic?
New Zealand in box seat to host Rugby Championship
MacDonald has to take a lot of the credit too
He does. But by far the most credit goes to NZR for stepping in and ridding the Blues of the private investor: Bolton and Cronies. With a cleanout of the incompetent board (the majority were Bolton nominees) and CEO, the coaching and playing staff have blossomed.
Private equity seems to be a hot topic. What went on at the Blues offers a stark example of what happens when it goes wrong.
Super Rugby Aotearoa Round 3: Everyone's feeling Blue
Don’t believe everything you read in articles…especially ones like this that try to push a particular point of view.
What Super Rugby Aotearoa's law changes mean in the battle for global rugby supremacy
whether the reffing consistency improves is another matter.
This “inconsistency” seems to exist only in your head. Why would penalty offences be the same between two different games played by teams with different strengths and weaknesses?
Inconsistency within a game can be an issue. I didn’t see this in either game.
The two referees involved had no trouble making “lightning fast judgements”. Perhaps it will be a problem for the unfit NH referees so used to plodding attrition rugby.
What Super Rugby Aotearoa's law changes mean in the battle for global rugby supremacy
an article on the SMH
Why would a sensible chap like you believe a single word from the SMH about rugby?
The Wrap: New Zealand rugby gets the jump on Australia, and everyone is happy!
The now 7.05 Sat kickoff is just after 6am in London.
Nope. 8.05am in London.
Law variations on both sides of the ditch with a common goal in mind
Have a word with the RFU: they are the ones that have repeatedly stated that they make more money hosting the ABs. Something to do with being able to charge a lot more for the corporate hospitality.
English RFU retain hope of November Tests
Back to back 6 Nations sounds much more interesting to me 😁
Added to the three games a week the English club owners have got in store for their players.
English RFU retain hope of November Tests
You do know that when the NH goes south you keep all the money, don’t you?
Yes I do. But how many NH sides toured SH this year? None, because of the pandemic. The reciprocal tours system has been derailed. So the idea that SH teams would sacrifice a delayed Rugby Championship just to bankroll the NH unions is laughable. The only reason SH unions would play in Europe this year would be if revenue was shared…something NH have refused to do.
English RFU retain hope of November Tests
No need for the ABs or Wallabies to tour at all if they can organise games where they make proper money from a delayed RC…
Nail on the head. Does Bill Sweeney think that NZ, Au, Tonga or Arg will turn up and play for nothing just to get the RFU out of a deep hole? A few months ago he was telling the SH unions to get f###ed for even mentioning revenue sharing. With 85% of the RFU’s revenue coming from hosting test matches I wonder if he’s changed his mind.
English RFU retain hope of November Tests
@ silly moniker
Your counterfactual musings are quite meaningless. If Piutau had continued on the same trajectory as he started on for the ABs, at age twenty-three, he may have had a decent international career. There is also the possibility that he would have developed on the same lines as Julian Savea (just a year older than Piutau) and be done and dusted at age twenty-five. I’d be picking the latter scenario: both players got fat.
Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby
Amazing how good people magically become when they’re NOT playing test rugby. Piutau was a young, lean, fit player before he left. He’s now the size of a house. The idea that he could have made a difference to the ABs in 2019 is laughable.
Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby
@ Timo
The Japanese union couldn’t or wouldn’t fund even their single team in SR: the Sunwolves. SANZAAR forked out millions to keep it running. The misconception so prevalent is that the JRU has heaps of money; it hasn’t.
Rugby in Japan is a hobby for large corporations. They may well be able to create and fund a “domestic” competition of high quality, but if they do, they will become as dangerous to rugby in other parts of the world as the French and English clubs. Wage inflation will take off again.
Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby
The Kiwis need to come home to the simpler solution of an Anzac bubble, which can expand to include the Pacific islands and Japan.
A Pom advising NZR on what it needs to do. Hilarious.
It might mean breaking the addiction to the sugary but monopolistic lollipop offered by pay-television companies
Pay TV has bankrolled development of rugby at all levels in SANZAAR countries. There isn’t a dog’s show that free- to- air rugby could fund even a fraction of what’s done now. If it could, rugby unions in SANZAAR would have done it. Pay TV is clearly the best option to fund rugby in Australia.
That “monopolistic lollipop” offered by Sky NZ to NZR in its latest contract looks excellent. Rather better than anything free-to-air could possibly generate. The result will be increased funding of community rugby and the growing women’s game. All we need now is to get rid of that damn virus.
Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby
Was that the right call?
Yes. Imagine being locked into a partnership with a dysfunctional, broke, no-media-deal outfit like RA.
And where are we now?
We are looking forward to the opening game of Super rugby Aotearoa.
Michael Cheika calls for Super Rugby overhaul
I was adamant about changing towards trans-Tasman, and Japan as well.
NZR was also adamant: it didn’t want a bar of this Trans -Tasman nonsense and made its view known publicly. Did this clown think it could be imposed on NZR? The level of his delusion is off the scale.
Michael Cheika calls for Super Rugby overhaul
NZ wouldn’t be able to financially sustain five teams in a trans Tasman comp Roberto.
As they would get much less in broadcasting rights. NZ only has a population of 5 million.
NZR has no intention of being a partner with an organisation that is broke, dysfunctional, and has a broadcast offer a tenth the value of NZR’s contract.
NZ obviously has a bigger rugby watching/supporting population than Australia has. The rest of the world, where rugby broadcasts are sold to, would rather watch NZ teams than Australian teams. That is the reality.
SANZAAR fighting a losing Super Rugby battle on two fronts
I would think that is certainly the case.
translation: I haven’t got a clue because I don’t understand what drives SkyNZ’s business.
SANZAAR fighting a losing Super Rugby battle on two fronts
I’d rather buy shares in SkyNZ than any outfit offering RA a broadcast deal.
Sky does not have long term contracts for Netball or the NRL and I would imagine they would have their eye on both of them
Sky NZ has prioritised RUGBY and netball. What has NRL got to do with anything?
SkyNZ has its challenges…as I pointed out. But it is still a significant business and has a contract with the organisation that drives most of its subscribers to it: NZR. Without rugby, SkyNZ wouldn’t exist.
That their main opposition [Spark] is a major telecommunications company is a total irrelevance.
Really? You made a big deal about SkyNZ and Spark’s share prices. The proverbial apples and oranges comparison. Spark’s performance in its core business is what drives its share price, not broadcasting sport.
SANZAAR fighting a losing Super Rugby battle on two fronts
I transcribed the interview, just have to hope I’ve still got it!!
Excellent.
It is interesting to see how different the views of the players are when compared to those of the officials/politicians/agitators.
The effect of travelling to SA on the players is quite often spoken in the negative. When someone actually surveyed the NZ players and coaches they said they loved the experience.
SANZAAR fighting a losing Super Rugby battle on two fronts
Not a healthy comparison for Sky.
Spark is a large telecommunications company: fixed line, mobile internet, digital services… Its share price reflects those activities. It is also flirting with sport :cricket.It’ll be interesting to see how that goes and who provides the coverage.
SkyNZ has nearly a million subscribers with revenue approaching $800 million and earnings of about $180million. Profits will obviously be lower at the moment ($20million P.A.) as it recently bought Rugby Pass, Lightbox and Neon. They are copping a bit of a beating at the moment as the public is moving away from satelite to streaming. SkyNZ has made it clear that Rugby and Netball are its main sporting priorities. It still has some work to do as it moves to a different business model, but describing its position as “parlous” is rather silly. That term would be better used to describe RA’s current broadcast partner.
SANZAAR fighting a losing Super Rugby battle on two fronts
Therefore players deemed surplus to requirements in Australia are good enough to play Super Rugby in NZ.
You seem very desperate. Nothing you assert makes the slightest bit of sense.
A solution to the latest trans-Tasman rugby pickle