International rugby league could be huge
By Steve Mauchline, 21 Jun 2012 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
Kangaroos player Jharal Yow Yeh takes the ball forward during the Anzac Test match between Australia and New Zealand. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
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Without doubt State of Origin has become a monster that is growing out of control. It has been called the pinnacle of the game? But is it?
This year’s ANZAC Test match went to the wire with intense hits and sublime skills. In this writer’s opinion, that match was more intense than either Origin encounter this year.
Origin Two was intense, however had the ANZAC Test had a similar build up – and better team selections – there would have been no doubt as to which was the greater spectacle.
Sadly, it is no coincidence that the demise of international rugby league has come about since the rise of State Of Origin thirty years ago. This and the increasing dollars associated with State Of Origin have created eligibility issues with some players choosing not to play for their birth country in order to play Origin.
The international game is not new to this and all major nations have been at fault.
While Australia may be guilty of this quite regularly – see Akuila Uate and James Tamou – New Zealand has a history of plundering the island nations. The most recent example is Konrad Hurrell, who is a Tongan brought over three years ago on a rugby union scholarship to Auckland Grammar School, but has now signed a letter of intent to play for New Zealand.
Then there is Brent Webb and Nathan Fien, the latter who played Origin for Queensland before switching to the Kiwis.
England have also chosen Maurie Fa’asavalu (Samoa), Rangi Chase (NZ) and now Ian Henderson (Australian raised, although born in England) has recently been called up to the England squad.
Do we want to fix this? Or become a non-international sport like AFL? Or an all stars sport like in the US?
If the international game is to be persisted with, could it become bigger than Origin? If we do decide to persist with internationals and want to improve the stature of international rugby league what eligibility options are there?
There are really only three options: 1. Birth, which is not really fair considering movement between Australia and NZ; 2. Where a player first plays junior rugby league or sport. 3. The FIFA rules of five years residency plus gaining citizenship of the new country and a passport to become eligible.
I believe either two or three would work on the residency issue, as for parentage either retain the one grandparent rule or perhaps drop it back to a mother or father. Place of birth should remain the other option.
To not prejudice current players, the rules could be started as of now and introduced at Junior Kangaroos and Kiwis level.
However, the key to these new rules must be that once you play for one nation, you play for that nation for life.
In terms of the Pacific Islands, a new international team comprising Fiji, Tonga, Samoa and The Cook Islands could be formed. The respective nations would be treated like State Rep teams just like the West Indies in cricket.
Papua New Guinea could also be invited to join (although they have a much greater history, tradition and strength and may wish to continue alone). A Pacific Island side would give rugby league a potentially new large force, although this could have a short-term impact on New Zealand and Australia to a lesser degree.
If Papua New Guinea remained separate they would both either playoff for a Four Nations place (every two years) or play the Kiwis when Origin is on (if Kiwi Origin can’t be set up). This could be in conjunction with State Of Origin (which should stay on a Wednesday or go to a Monday). All this, along with the Pacific Cup (all NRL players included) and other potential representative games.
Growing these games would create the potential for between five and seven representative games in the southern hemisphere at the same time, allowing for standalone weekends at the time Origin is on.
By splitting the TV rights deal into portions and including NRL expansion, the potential is there for a $1- $1.4 billion TV rights deal which would set rugby league up for an enormous future. This can be achieved by selling rights to all interested parties.
So now it is up to the ARLC and the Rugby League International Federation to decide where they want the international game to go, stumbling along or taking off.
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June 21st 2012 @ 1:31am
Rabbi said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:31am | Report comment
Apply the FIFA rules I think. The grey areas continually spark controversy. The sad part of this may be that minor nations are disadvantaged because of the big three continual stockpiling of talent.
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June 21st 2012 @ 1:58am
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:58am | Report comment
Stand-alone rep weekends need to be introduced into the schedule. I’d prefer to see the rep footy weekend played at the end of the season. I’d set the following fixtures if I was the boss:
England vs New Zealand
France vs Wales
Scotland vs Ireland
PNG vs Pacific Islands
QLD vs NSW
If Wales and France develop into world class teams that can challenge England then have the three play-off in a Tri Series.
Money from origin can be shared with the players from the other matches. I don’t see why origin players should be earning more than the players from the other teams just because origin is more profitable. If they want to go down that route then they better get rid of the salary gap in the NRL and fight tooth and nail for the NRL to be allowed to have no minimum wage for contracted players.
The players like to go on about how they deserve to be compensated. If that’s true then the origin players will want their mates from PNG, Samoa, New Zealand, Tonga, England, etc are compensated just as well as them. The stipulation could be that in order to be eligible for the money then they have to be contracted with an NRL club, QLD Cup Club or NSW Cup Cup. Samoans, Tongans and Fijians would jump at the opportunity to play rugby league if this were the case!
June 21st 2012 @ 3:22am
mark melville said | June 21st 2012 @ 3:22am | Report comment
I the problem with international league is that they simple don’t play it. if league played 6-7 tests a year between the top 7-8 nations, it would be huge and competive within 10 years
June 21st 2012 @ 11:38am
Peter T said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:38am | Report comment
Exactly. We go on about PNG being the 4th best nation but we never see them play. Great that they play the PM XIII. How about an autralian tour? Perhaps 2 teams that miss the final 8. Nations need to be paying consistently, even if they are not payed in front of big crowds. the experience is vitally important.
June 21st 2012 @ 11:39am
Peter T said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:39am | Report comment
Meant to say played, not payed
June 21st 2012 @ 7:10am
MAGS Warriors said | June 21st 2012 @ 7:10am | Report comment
What games were you watching? SOO was by far the most exciting and intense games by a mile. The Anzac test was kids play, The NRL clubs will never go for that stand alone weekend and will only release players for origin.
June 21st 2012 @ 7:58am
Rodney McDonell said | June 21st 2012 @ 7:58am | Report comment
New Zealand needs it’s own origin concept, and it wants it, but the NRL wont authorise a representative weekend FREE of club footy for SOO and other fixtures. Thus the NRL is screwing over the NZRLs ability to compete.
June 21st 2012 @ 11:06am
Freddy Bee said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
Agree … Maybe the Ausies are too scare to see other nations get better … thus they concentrate only on SOO and even coaxing non – NSW AND QLD players … What a joke NRL “was” Hope the new ARLC can change that and make INTERNATIONAL the no.1 Rep game.
June 21st 2012 @ 8:33am
Money talks said | June 21st 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Nothing will happen because the Commission will protect their position as Origin is a huge money maker for them.
June 21st 2012 @ 8:43am
Zippa said | June 21st 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
Interesting article and completely agree. RL is now played in a lot of countries. Just in the last decade a lot of new countries have taken up the sport. The Usa, Canada, Jamaica, Lebanon, Check Republic, Norway, Sweden are just some of the many countries that are now playing the sport.
All we need now is the right administration in place to put internation RL first and then RL can be considered a global sport.
June 21st 2012 @ 9:18am
clipper said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
ALF also has a list similar to the one above where in the last decade a lot of new countries have taken up the sport, but I don’t think any of them would be deluded enough to say it’s an international game because a few expats or pub teams play in a country.
June 21st 2012 @ 10:11am
Zippa said | June 21st 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Clipper Gridiron also has many countries playing it. The difference is though RL has proffesional teams in 4 different countries and semi pro teams in other countries. In addition it is also the national sport of PNG and the Cook Islands. It has the second oldest world cup.
Cmon Clipper I know you are anti RL but you can not compare RL with AFL. AFL has a passionate following in one country only. RL has a passionate following in atleast 6-7 countries. All RL needs is one or two more countries to stand up and be competitive. I can see France being that country. They have proud tradtion of RL and have seen enormous growth in the last few years, they are also planning a pro competition starting soon so that will be interesting.
After all only 4 countries have ever won the rugby world cup and 3 countries have won the RL world cup.
June 21st 2012 @ 11:12am
Freddy Bee said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Good response Zippa .. very proactive compare to that negative, reactive Zipper
June 21st 2012 @ 11:35am
Go warriors said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
I agree well said Zippa there are a lot of people like Clipper that like to bag international RL however RL has had good growth in the last 10 years and if it keeps growing at the same rate then the future of international RL is looking bright.
All we need is the right administration to sort out a few areas. Eligibility being the crucial one. I am really lookiing forward to the world cup next year and hopefully the tournament can make a good profit.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:51pm
clipper said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
I’ve been called may things – but never zipper!
I was highlighting that you can’t say you’re an international game by citing a few countries that have a few teams that play the game.
I don’t think France will be competitive anytime soon – they’re at $151 to win the next WC – that’s very long odds.
Rugby may have had only 4 winners in their short WC history, but the other teams are closing the gap – outside Australia, NZ and at a stretch, England – there are no other teams remotely capable of winning a WC in league.
June 21st 2012 @ 9:33pm
Mantis said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:33pm | Report comment
The problem is the gap between the NRL and anything else is monstrous. Even the super league is not up to par, and that is made up by a huge number of expats. International RL will struggle until there is healthy national competitions.
June 21st 2012 @ 9:46pm
Col Quinn said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:46pm | Report comment
Dear Mantis,
The SL teams have a quota on the number of overseas players they can have on their roster. Depending on the side, the number can be 5 to 6 for the top 5 teams and quite a few more for teams such as the Catalans. The RFL has had a policy of pushing the development of local academies for nearly 15 years. This policy is now bearing fruit. Many of the teams in the ESL are shedding the overseas players, unless they become British citz, for locally grown player. This has reflected in an improvement in standards. A few RL experts, who watch SL regularly and write for some of the local League Mags are suggesting that England may roll the Kangaroos next year. The reasons are a young enthusiastic and skilful side, which has finally got the heads in the right shape and the retirement of Darin Lockyer. However, we will see wont we. SL standards are not that far behind NRL.
June 22nd 2012 @ 11:43am
Renegade said | June 22nd 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Clipper,
I’m pretty sure the All blacks were $1.75 to win the RWC…..so what’s your point??
You consistently troll the RL forums to add your ridiculously negative statements in a subtle way thinking no one will figure out your a troll…..cmon mate, just give it a rest.
June 22nd 2012 @ 12:30pm
clipper said | June 22nd 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Renegade – there’s a huge difference between $1.75 favourites with a huge home town advantage and $1.25 playing in England. The fact that there is only 3 countries below the 100-1 mark just shows the lack of depth and a reality check to those that say the gap is closing. Sorry if that’s being negitave, but that’s the reality.
June 21st 2012 @ 11:53am
Crosscoder said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Clipper
The code may well have a similar list,but certainly not an historical list of internationals.Nor have they received a Commonwealth games 3rd tier approval,nor govt officiallly sanctioned approval in quite a few countries(jamaica/Serbia/ukraine) or even UK govt backing.
Chalk and cheese comparing rl international competition and games beteen countries and AFL.It is delusionary to even compare.
June 22nd 2012 @ 12:51pm
NF said | June 22nd 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
clipper you’re nothing but a rugby league hater
June 21st 2012 @ 9:04am
warren said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
International RL was dead before SOO started. The Poms have not won a series since about 1971? RL as much as I love the game will only have limited international success as it is not an easy game to pick up for several reasons. Soccer can be played on any old surface with a tennis ball if you wish, cricket a bit of the same and lets face it not many cultures are suited to the brutal nature of the game. The game just needs to find a niche market and look to grow it from there. England has seen junior playing numbers double in some areas with the introduction of the summer competition. Even London has over 1000 kids playing now whereas in the 1960′s there was only 4 senior sides in the whole city. Fiji is continuing to grow to the point they are running out of places to play their games for the 100 teams they have in the country. A surprising one is Norway who started from nothing a few years ago to know a 12 team competition. Maybe in time we will see a side from PNG and another from NZ in the NRL.
June 21st 2012 @ 9:53am
Sailosi said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Rugby league has been played all over the world for 70-80 years. It is a British game remember. Pretty much every sport in the world is played everywhere in some capacity.
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June 21st 2012 @ 11:58am
Crosscoder said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Its now played in more countries than ever before Sailosi,so the British influence is somewhat exaggerated.
A bit like saying the English language is universal.