Four observations from the 2012 State of Origin series
By Ryan O'Connell, 5 Jul 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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Queensland player Greg Inglis (centre) in action during State of Origin 3 against the NSW Blues at Suncorp stadium in Brisbane, Wednesday, July 4, 2012. (AAP Image/Dan Peled)
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Another year, another Queensland State of Origin victory. While some New South Welshmen will find solace in the fact that the Blues appear to be inching closer to an elusive series win, the harsh reality is that the 2012 State of Origin series concluded with an all-too-familiar result.
The Queensland Maroons won their seventh consecutive series, and did it the hard way, winning by a single point in game three, courtesy of a late Cooper Cronk field goal.
It was a hard fought series, with some of the most bruising and punishing defence in Origin history. As the book closes on another chapter of Origin football – this one probably named ‘Petero’s farewell’ – we analyse four observations from the 2012 series.
1. Please, no whinging from the Blues or their fans
While I’d like to consider myself an objective sports writer, come Origin time it’s hard to put one’s loyalties to the side. Truth be told, I like the banter between the two states at this time of year, I enjoy the one-eyed bias that accompanies it, and I have no hesitation in getting involved in a little bit of it myself.
Part of that bias is obviously concentrated on refereeing decisions. Yet I want no part of blaming the officials for last night’s result.
In my opinion, the refereeing throughout the entire series was not up to Origin standard, and game three was no exception. However, I don’t think it was unbalanced at Suncorp Stadium, and therefore played little role in the actual outcome. It was bad both ways.
In terms of the most contentious call of the night – the Justin Hodges try – I have zero issue with the decision. In fact, I’m still trying to work out how anyone could claim that it was a shepherd. It was a try, no doubt at all.
Brad Fittler called it the worst decision he’s ever seen in Origin. However, this was the same man that said Ben Creagh had suffered a ‘twenty seven centimetre’ cut to his head. Get a ruler out Freddy – if Creagh had a 27cm cut, his brain would be popping out.
Queensland won fair and square. Jog along, whingers.
2. Have a rest, Mitchell
You’d have to think Mitchell Pearce would be at long odds to get another shot at Origin next year.
All series long, in the most important position on the park, Pearce offered little in attack. He rarely threatened the line, had no dynamism or subtlety with his passing, and his kicking lacked variety, skill and precision.
In fact, it was interesting to notice the Blues utilise different kickers in attack last night, particularly Robbie Farah and Jarryd Hayne. What does it say about your halfback when the hooker and winger are preferred options with the boot?
Pearce supporters point to his defence when they argue his case for selection. However, he missed plenty of tackles in this series, and none were more costly than his miss on Johnathan Thurston in the first half, which led to a crucial Maroons try seconds later.
Despite never really nailing down his spot, Pearce has played halfback for the Blues since game three in 2008. And yet he is still to guide his team to a series win. While the reason for the Blues lack of success cannot be attributed to just one player, Pearce can’t continue to be given a free ride in the number seven jersey when his performances for NSW do not warrant it.
After all, what’s the opposite of “If it’s not broken, don’t fix it”?
3. The Blues choked
For two years in a row, the Blues have saved their worst game for the deciding match of the series.
For all the progress that many feel the Blues have made, at the end of the day, they still face the reality of losing another series. Improvement is irrelevant at this level of football. Winning is the only thing that matters.
The frustration for Blues fans with last night’s loss is not just that the Blues failed to win, it’s the fact they played dreadfully. Missed tackles. Dropped ball. Poor kicking. Forced passes. Kicking the ball out on the full on a restart.
These were not ‘positive’ mistakes, but fundamental errors that you would chastise a schoolboy for making. It was dumb football, and it was ugly to watch the Blues self combust.
It wasn’t just errors of execution either.
The Blues persistent kicking early in the tackle count was nothing short of baffling. It certainly wasn’t a case of the Maroons defenders being out of position and the Blues attempting to catch them off guard; NSW were kicking early in the tackle count to locations on the field that were well covered.
Queensland didn’t play exceptional football, but they made fewer mistakes, and took their opportunities when they were presented. The Blues, on the other hand, were woeful.
When you’re outplayed, you give credit to the opposition, and take the loss on the chin. But when you lose the series by a single point, and you’ve shot yourself in the foot, it’s a bitter pill to swallow.
4. In Queensland’s seven year reign, this was their most impressive series win
When a team’s success is labelled a dynasty, you can be assured that many impressive victories have been earned, and such is true of Queensland’s seven years of domination.
Yet, I tend to believe this was their most impressive series win yet.
The Blues have definitely closed the talent gap, and actually played better than Queensland for large amounts of the series. It looked like NSW were finally going to break the Maroons’ stranglehold on the Origin trophy, but the Maroons simply refused to let go.
Despite not playing great football, carrying some older members of the squad, Cooper Cronk delivering a sub-par series, Billy Slater playing hurt and then being ruled out of the decider and the Blues mounting plenty of pressure upon them, the Maroons still found a way to win.
Though we always like to witness a gifted team show off their sublime skills, sometimes it’s even more impressive when said team has to call on different talents, like resolve, grit and intelligence.
Bravo Queensland, all kudos to you, because you’ve really earned this victory.
And, annoyingly, your fans have earned another year of gloating.
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network and NBA Down Under, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.
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July 5th 2012 @ 7:10am
BennO said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:10am | Report comment
Good write up. I reckon the only point I disagree with is the blues performance last night wasn’t woeful. They made a lot of silly errors but when they were on the attack, they generally came up with points. Their mistakes cost them opportunities but I though they did well with what opportunities they created. I thought QLD had a lot of ball inside the NSW 20 and didn’t convert as much of it as the blues did when in their attacking 20.
Anyway, as a QLDer that is the most satisfying series win since probably 2008, it definitely rates up there with 2006. This series could have gone either way and credit to the blues for that, but it does make this win very satisfying.
Well done boys and thanks for the memories Petero.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:01am
Stev Martin said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Good comments BennO. Thanks to Cronk for pulling us out of the doo doo hey!!?
July 5th 2012 @ 10:51am
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
And a big thanks goes out to Mitchell Pearce, for a shambolic, incompetent and laughable performance for a halfback. If this pretender(who is only there because of his pedigree, not on merit) gets another shot at origin, then there has to be much rolling of selectors heads. Mitchell Pearce isn’t a halfbacks butthole. What kind of a halfback can’t kick, or control a game, especially at origin level?
I have to mention the grubbiness of some of the Queenslanders. Like Brent Taite, the dog, who punches a defenceless Greg Bird on the ground in the temple. Straight out of the cowards text book.Or what about Darius Boyd and his dodgy twist of Hayne’ leg, in a potentially season ending grub act. I’m not saying NSW were squeaky clean, but these two should definitely have a case to answer.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:57am
llieno said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:57am | Report comment
Given how Qld has been travelling the past few years I can’t help but feel bad for NSW supporters after coming so close, yet again. Then I read comments like the one above and those feelings quickly evaporate.
I would have to say that throughout Brent Tate’s career he has handled himself with the utmost integrity both on and off the field. Sure his punch has left a small blemish on his career but any reasonable person would ask why did he react the way he did.
You have to look no further than the point of Tim Grant’s elbow that was pushed into his eye socket and temple to give you the evidence you need. We all know Gallen and Bird are grubs (this is well documented and is backed up by judiciary charges for contrary conduct) but after last night Tim Grant is quickly following suit. To call Brent Tate a dog without considering all the facts in the leadup is just plain stupid.
Also, have you seen footage of the Hayne cross-field take that I haven’t? I didn’t see any leg twist, just a tackle made my Boyd. Unfortunately, injuries happen in contact sports and maybe we should just leave it at that without insinuating that a Qld player maliciously and intentionally injured an opposing player without any evidence of this.
July 5th 2012 @ 12:08pm
Jimbo said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Regardless of what happened in the lead up, punching someone in the face whilst they are held by two people on the ground is an absolutely disgraceful act. And why exactly would he punch Greg Bird for something Tim Grant did? Whilst I don’t agree with it, both teams were guilty of giving the oppositions a bit of facial work on the ground. I like a good origin stink as much as the next man, but hitting defenceless players is never excusable.
July 5th 2012 @ 12:40pm
llieno said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
I’m pretty sure Tate got up thinking it was Gallen as he was the last one off him after making the tackle; I don’t think he saw who rubbed the elbow in his face.
Why was Bird getting involved anyway? To that point it was Gallen and Tate going toe to toe.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:13pm
tommy said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
Just as i thought Jennings punch was disgraceful in game 1, I also have to give out to Brent Tate. When you hit someone who isn’t watching in the head you can kill them. As much as I love him & Qld, I think a suspension would be warranted.
July 5th 2012 @ 12:20pm
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
Yeah right, like Cameron Smith doesn’t do that sort of stuff every week. You obviously knee-jerked and didn’t read my entire comment. Did you notice the part where i said that NSW weren’t squeaky clean either? Anyone who punches a defenceless man pinned to the ground, temple exposed and punches down onto his head is a dog, regardless of wether or not he was roughed up a bit in a tackle. Regardless of wether or not he has had a pretty good record leading up to that. He started the Gallen thing by throwing his elbow wildly into Gallens head. At least Gallen faced him front on , not wait till he’s pinned to the ground, armed locked down to punch him in the side of the head. Anyone i’ve spoken to about it, even some Queensland supporters, agree that it was the shot of a dog.
As for Boyd, your eyes must be painted on. I watched that replay too, about 5 times. Boyd grabbed Hayne on the foot and twisted it like he was trying to snap it off. Other people have noticed it too, so i guess they are stupid as well. There was intent to hurt there, i don’t give 2 hoots what some ignorant, one-eyed redneck Queenslander thinks. That’s you by the way. In case you are too “stupid”.
So just because we have differing points of view, doesn’t make me, as you say stupid. I think if you converted your IQ to currency, you would be bankrupt. In fact, if it’s a battle of wits you are after, i won’t fight an unarmed man.
July 5th 2012 @ 12:53pm
llieno said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
July 5th 2012 @ 1:14pm
llieno said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
I think it’s you who needs to go back and reread what I wrote because I never called you stupid, only the process of analysing any incident without considering all the evidence. How did Cameron Smith come into this? Was this because you were running out of ammunition regarding the incident in question?
I also suggest you go back and watch that Boyd tackle again because it’s clear that Hayne is in agony the moment he hits the ground. A news report released today states that Hayne has a mild foot sprain; considering Boyd tackled Hayne around the calf/low ankle I would suggest it would be difficult to inflict this injury upon someone’s foot.
Clearly, you do give two hoots about ‘what some ignorant, one-eyed redneck Queenslander thinks’ because you took the time to reply to my comment.
Yep, you got me, bankrupt!
July 5th 2012 @ 4:38pm
Curious said | July 5th 2012 @ 4:38pm | Report comment
Hey Damn Straight – your WETHER should be spelt whether. The one you keep using is a castrated sheep i.e. a Ram without his manhood.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:40pm
Kim Hart said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:40pm | Report comment
He called himself stupid unless that was sarcasm which given his subsequent claim to immense wit cannot be the case.
July 5th 2012 @ 12:38pm
oikee said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
Tater got some back, nothing more, nothing less, NSW was cheering our players getting their faces grinded into the turf game 2. Nicely said LLieno, and lets not get too chummy with NSW, they will happily kick sand in our face at the beach.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:28pm
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:28pm | Report comment
Thanks for the heads up curious and you are dead right. That was a glaring oversight…kind of undermines what i had to say. Normally, i’m slamming people for poor spelling and shoddy grammar. It’s kind of humbling to be the recipient of a slamming, if you’ll pardon the expression.
In the interests of fairness though, please feel free to correct all other examples of poor spelling, incorrect use of apostrophes, punctuation mishaps and grammatical faux pas that you find in the comments section at The Roar. You are going to be busy my friend.
You seem to know a lot about sheep. Just curious(no pun intended), are you from Noo Zuland or Queensland?
Seriously though, thanks also for adding a whole new dimension to my spelling error. I truly had no idea that a wether was a castrated ram. A new nickname for some of my mates who are a bit more under the thumb than they would care to admit, hehe.
July 6th 2012 @ 8:13am
Damn Straight said | July 6th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
@Kim Hart
Yeah, thanks for your 2 cent call there Kim Hart. Your incisively provocative display is a typical troll response in that you fail to address the arguments that were being discussed. No, instead you throw in your written diarrheah and most likely high five yourself and marvel at how brilliant you are. Make sure that you don’t disappear up your own backside as you drown in a pool of gloat.
Like your friend above you, you are making kindergarten level assumptions. I actually didn’t call myself stupid(sarcastically or otherwise)…probably because i’m not. I don’t imply people are stupid just because their view is at odds with mine. It kind of reeks of insecurity.There is no mention of immense wit on my behalf, merely that your love child above you has none at all. Actually, come to mention it, neither do you.
Leave being clever to clever people Kimmy, that way you won’t end up with proverbial egg on your noggin. I’m sure you are more than familiar with how that feels. Have a nice day.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:02pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Alright I’ll address your arguments in turn:
*Punching a bloke held on the ground is a dog act. That’s why Hayne in game II is a dog and equally (for punching Tate in the back of the head) so is Jennings.
*Hayne came into the game carrying an ankle injury. You are literally the only person on earth who thinks Boyd did anything untoward in order to aggravate it. You stand alone on that one unless in your confusion you have forgotten that this is not the AFL and that players may tackle below the knee.
*Tate was taken high then elbowed in the face – fairly certain that those two things started the stink and in the case of the high shot is what caused the penalty.
*’so i guess they are stupid as well’ is clearly a sarcastic statement implying that obviously you are not in fact stupid, ‘if it’s a battle of wits you are after, i won’t fight an unarmed man’ then implies that you conversely are well equipped in the wit stakes. I stand by my joke.
*If you converted my IQ to currency at a rate of a dollar per quotient point I’d have 146 dollars which doesn’t mean I am particularly smart, but that I am particularly good at doing those types of tests.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:16pm
WQ said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
Talking of leg pulling did anybody else notice that NSW had an obvious plan for the tackler that had hold of the ball carriers legs to try to lift the leg and drag it back towards the defensive line. It was an obvious tactic to slow down the play of the ball by not holding down but orientating the tackled player in the wrong direction, quite clever but it looks dangerous to me.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:50pm
Matt said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
Happens at NRL level as well. Same as flipping players onto their backs so they take longer to get up.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:03pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
No but only Queenslanders play dirty.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:38pm
Kim Hart said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:38pm | Report comment
Glassing your girlfriend and blaming your friend is chapter 1 in the cowards textbook.
July 6th 2012 @ 8:17am
Damn Straight said | July 6th 2012 @ 8:17am | Report comment
I didn’t see that happen in the game Kim. Man hating feminist much?
July 6th 2012 @ 1:07pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
Being male I would find it mildly condescending to label myself a feminist and indeed in many areas I would more closely be aligned with chauvanism. I don’t for example believe women should serve on the frontline. However if not thinking someone who commits domestic violence is a legend is feminism, then call me Germaine.
July 6th 2012 @ 4:29pm
A1 said | July 6th 2012 @ 4:29pm | Report comment
Kim, you honestly think Queensland are somehow cleaner and better than NSW?
Inglis, Smith, Slater and Cronk signed two contracts with the Storm and cheated the salary cap. Myles defecated in a hotel hallway. Boyd and Thaiday were accused of sexually assaulting a female in a Brisbane pub. I could rattle off a few more.
Your mob aren’t perfect. Neither are NSW.
Move on with your life.
July 6th 2012 @ 7:38pm
Damn Straight said | July 6th 2012 @ 7:38pm | Report comment
Beautifully put A1. Very succinct.
July 6th 2012 @ 5:30pm
josh said | July 6th 2012 @ 5:30pm | Report comment
where is talking sh and mud raking against someone not present to defend themselves in the cowards text book? is there a picture of you next to the relevant chapter?
July 6th 2012 @ 5:59pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 5:59pm | Report comment
It’s muck raking and I fancy I am less anonymous than most given that my full name is on my posts. Never claimed that any QLD player was a saint nor that no QLD player had ever done anything wrong.
I agree with A1 with the exception of the salary cap issue. I don’t personally expect football players to be familiar with the intricacies of contract law and in any case as I have written before the real issue the NRL had with the Storm was the hiding of the level of breach. It was a financial crime – nothing to do with cheating in the sense of the game itself.
Damn straight I’ve been hit by Brent Tate with as you put it ‘all his might and let me tell you Bird would not have played on if that was the case.
You are still the only person in the world who thinks Boyd did anything untoward in tackling Hayne.
I don’t follow how the manner in which Smith tackles rightly or wrongly has anything to do with the issue of penalties with reference to the stink on Wednesday night. Very slender thread.
I have on several occasions agreed that Tate’s was a dog shot but you can’t accept that Hayne and moreso Jennings also let go dog shots.
Finally you acknowledge that anything other than the greatest of conspiracies led to Queenslands victory.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:39am
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:39am | Report comment
“who punches a defenceless Greg Bird on the ground in the temple.”
At least he didn’t glass him…
July 6th 2012 @ 8:50am
Damn Straight said | July 6th 2012 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Typical pea-brained Queensland response. Do you victims of amnesia remember Greg Inglis bashing his girlfriend in 2010? No, i don’t either
July 6th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
Never charged if I recall. Never concocted a story about his friend doing it either.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:35pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
Honestly Kim, give it a rest. It’s boring.
Celebrate your magnificent team’s success,and stop trying to pretend Queensland is any better than NSW. We’re Australian – a border doesn’t translate to massive differences in culture, behaviour or perfection.
In fact, the only thing it translates to of late is a difference in winning!
Celebrate that instead, instead of mud-raking.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:34pm
Damn Straight said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
Happy now Kimmy? Get that of your chest? Feeling all smug and superior are we? Get over yourself.
Wasn’t charged doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Just because a silly young girl decides to stay in an abusive relationship and not charge her boyfriend doesn’t make him a saint. But that’s ok kimmy, isn’t it. He’s a Queenslander. No selective bias there i’m sure.
Greg Bird was completely exonerated and cleared of all charges, it’s only Maroon supporters who seem to bring that up. Quite a p*sslame argument really. Especially when it’s got nothing to do with the argument at hand. Who gives a flying f*&# about a story being concocted. I never said he was a legend, your choice of words. He is an awesome origin player though, i’m sure i’m not alone in thinking that. Anyway, what’s that got to do with what we are talking about? Keep cherry picking to prop up your weak arguments, i couldn’t give a rats muckhole.
You are wrong about Hayne. Did he punch down onto the temple of a pinned, defenceless man with all his might? No he didn’t. Hayne may have had a cuboid bone injury, i’m sure Boyd’ little twist of his foot helped that, but whatever. I never said that Jennings act was chivalrous, but at least Tate was on his feet with use of his arms.
High shots, ha! Look at your grubby Cam Smith, the king of the choke, facial, elbow, chicken wing and general grubbiness. The guy is a great hooker, but also a massive grub who seems to be a protected species. Both teams were dishing them out that night. That wasn’t my point though was it. My point was that punching a defenceless man in the temple, whilst he is pinned on the ground is a dog act. Which Brent Tate clearly is.
As for your “joke”(was that a joke? Seriously?), you are about as funny as a fart at a funeral. Stick to being a self righteous prat, it suits you better. You have a lot more in common with Germaine Greer than you would probably realise.
Anyway, YAWN, this would put a raving speed junkie to sleep. Sorry Ryan, you are right. Queensland deserved their victory, they are an amazingly talented team and petty squabbles are a waste of time and energy. Good article.
July 6th 2012 @ 5:28pm
josh said | July 6th 2012 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
@ Kim
For someone boasting about a high IQ you’re pretty dim.
A. Inglis was charged. B How do you know what he didi and didn’t lie about to get out of strife? were you there?
We all know about the Bird case, care to discuss Thurston, Boyd, Thaiday, Myles or Smith at any length…or would that burst your morally superior bubble?
July 6th 2012 @ 11:06pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | July 6th 2012 @ 11:06pm | Report comment
But I thought Greg Inglis was a New South Welshman….
You lot only let us know about his NSW roots whenever anyone brings up Queensland’s origin reign.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:44am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
BennO, I wrote this during and after last night’s game, when I was emotional, tired, and had sunk a few of the lord’s sweet ambers, so I may have overstated the NSW performance a touch.
I haven’t a chance to watch the game again – and I dare say I won’t! – but I hold firm in my belief that NSW didn’t play very well. Lots of mental errors at crucial times, questionable kicking tactics, terrible kicking execution, bad spacing/bunching in attack, poor direction from the halves, and I could go on.
I commend them for still being in the game right up until the final moments, but I wouldn’t be being honest if I didn’t said that they were very poor in many facets of the game.
July 5th 2012 @ 10:41am
MELB NSW 4 lyfe said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
I agree Ryan it was NSW’s worst performance of the 3 this series and feel that due to the last NSW performances in the previous 2 games masked the areas we needed to fix to win it.
Most of this would be answered with a change in the halves (of which even thats perplexing) and finding someone who will compliment Carney more. If you lose your kicking license to the winger and hooker you would think as a topline footy player you look to other areas to maybe create something.
Eg have a go at the line, risk something or do something you dont normally do and that the opposition dont expect. That why NSW continue to lose, QLSD know whats coming, NSW just dont ask enough questions.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:10pm
Frank The Tank said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
I agree, it was NSW worst game all series. In game one we had 15 bad minutes when Farah and Bird were off the field and the worst selection of this decade Buhrer was on the field. Stuarts appalling selection of him hasn’t been written about enough as it pretty much cost us the series, let’s face we win game 1 and Game 2 goes without saying, Game 3 in front of those rednecks becomes a dead rubber. So happy it took 2 loses, 6 series losses and Uate to let in 4 tries for Stuart to finally put in both Morris brothers, they were brilliant last night. I love those boys, they have no necks which is why I think I love them more.
July 5th 2012 @ 10:52pm
Meesta Cool said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:52pm | Report comment
Well said Frank.. I would have voted One of the Morris Brothers as man of the match,, must watch it again coz I can’t figure which one it was.. But if you read the experts, neither of these boys are Origin Material….. Goes to show that you can’t believe what you read!.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:15pm
Andreas Strauss said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
#1 Brad Fittler reported what he was told, which was a 20cm gash, not 27cm; they repeated this multiple times
#2 That shepherd try was absolutely disgraceful, 2nd worst decision i’ve ever seen (coming after the game 1 Inglis try), which = the two worst calls in NRL history giving QLD two wins, deciding the series
#3 the penatly to QLD over the punch at the start was ridiculous, brent tate punched first, then AGAIN, then gallen retaliated yet he gets the penalty and the ref just says “i didnt see any QLD punch”
NSW didnt play up to the series standard, but either did QLD; both teams played poorly in comparison to game 1 and 2, but the referees ruined possibly the greatest origin series with 2 horrible calls, which DID cost NSW the win
July 5th 2012 @ 2:42pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
1. Actually, when Brad Fittler first reported it, he was on the sideline, saw it himself and said “It looked 27cm”. In any case, this was just a bit of light heartedness I included in the piece.
2. Disgraceful is a bit strong. And just plain inaccurate. It was try. What about Matt Scott getting called for a knock-on when the ball clearly went towards his own try line. Was that a disgrace?
3. It had no impact on the game. And Hayne did the same in game 1. It happens.
I know you’re upset, all us New South Welshmen are, but the series is over now and it’s time to open your other eye.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:48pm
Andreas Strauss said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Tate threw two punches and got a penatly for his side, hayne threw one and nothing happened, jennings threw one he got sin binned, amazing consistency from the officials, purely amazing. Sarcasm intended.
Well the official review accoring to the NRL was that the hodges try was called wrong, and was a no-try; shepherding always has and still is illegal in NRL, they have gotten more lenient with it, but the fact remains it is illegal to run behind your tem mate if it impedes a defender, which it did
July 5th 2012 @ 2:49pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
Who did he impede?
July 5th 2012 @ 2:51pm
Matt said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Jennings came running in from nowhere and threw a punch.
Tate got pushed after being worked over in the tackle, they went to ground (the camera had moved onto where the ball actually was so not sure what happened exactly), he punched.
Two completely different scenarios. If you are there, and someone is pushing and punching you, you’re going to fight back. If you’ve got nothing to do with it and come running it… pretty stupid.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:25pm
Andreas Strauss said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
He impeded Beau Scott, who was en-route to tackle hodges when hannant blocked him, leaving that massive gap, as shown on the video replay several times, and @Matt, Tate threw the first punch, so no he wasnt defending himself from any punches, if anything he retaliated to being shoved and worked in the tackle, but its origin; of course thats going to happen
July 5th 2012 @ 11:02pm
Meesta Cool said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:02pm | Report comment
If the ‘impeded player’ had not stopped and immediately thrown his hands in the air for a penalty, he would most likely have affected a tackle.. Right or wrong, you do not give up and plead with the ref .. you attempt to get to the ball carrier.
As our illustripus commentator Meesta Daley often says “The ball carrier is the most important person on the field”, whilst he has the ball, every attempt should be made to stop him scoring!.
It’s time to stop asking the ref for favours and concentrate on pulling your weight for your team mates.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:45pm
Kim Hart said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:45pm | Report comment
Time to read the rule book: it is not an obstruction if the player impeded is only so because he made a defensive decision to engage the decoy runner. It is also not an obstruction if it had no bearing on the outcome which given that Scott made no attemp to tackle the ball carrier (and the same can be said for the two defenders who were directly adjacent to the ball carrier) is the case here. It’s in the rules and it’s in the referees guidelines.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:59pm
soapit said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
2. mate they’ve been getting called knock ons regardless of direction for 20 years now. a bit different to an interpretation of obstruction you’d be struggling to find an exact replica of (right or wrong).
July 5th 2012 @ 4:42pm
BennO said | July 5th 2012 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
Fair enough Ryan, but you really should watch it again- it was a great game of footy
July 5th 2012 @ 7:17am
Nick_Brisbane said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:17am | Report comment
A great test of character and a great win. As a union supporter though I reckon the Maroons passing is not up to scratch (Get QC in to teach them to pass). Secondly, if the Reds could ofload like Corey Parker we would be winning more games.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:03am
Maroon Blood said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
Corey Parker certainly stepped his game up a level last night, two offloads for the first two Qld tries and ran strongly all night. All the Qld pack played their best game of the season IMO, certainly big Civo saved his best game of the series for his final game in Origin. Well played sir, well played.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:30pm
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
He was outstanding Maroon Blood. Feleti Mateo, the king of the offload, would have been proud of those 2 offloads from Corey that lead to to tries.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:38pm
dogforlife said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:38pm | Report comment
You have to be kidding about Parker. I am the most rednecked, hillbilly Queenslander going around and Corey Parker should never be picked again, and won’t when Ash Harrison is fit. He bombed 2 tries early when only had to pass left and instead ran on an inside line, and it was more arse than good play that he got the one to Thurston. Great club player but doesnt tie Harrisons shoelaces when it comes it Origin
July 6th 2012 @ 1:30pm
crazy said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
dogforlife its about who played in that series decider and who contributed to that win if you were a player you would understand its not about comparing Corey Parker and Ashley Harrisons remember they are different ball players thats why they made team,
July 5th 2012 @ 2:53pm
Matt said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Don’t get me started on Rugby. If they actually passed once in a while they’d score tries! I can’t even count the amount of times there has been an overlap, and they dummy and get tackled instead. But union doesn’t revolve around the need to score tries as much as league, and you’re guaranteed the ball 5 times in a row unless you drop it.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:18am
Eric George said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:18am | Report comment
I agree that NSW made some key errors, but your’re going way overboard to say that NSW “were woeful”. Despite your assertions otherwise, Queensland actually lead NSW in errors 13-6, and by the conclusion of the match, the difference in missed tackles was 33-32 in Queensland’s favour. NSW certainly played poorly in patches, but so did QLD: this was a match of big runs.
How about giving NSW some credit for the excellent scrambling defence they played at times (Inglis was in for a sure try before Morris mowed him down)?
I think the biggest difference in the match was NSW’s inability to gain metres up the middle of the park, QLD just shut everything down up the guts and forced the Blues wide constantly. By comparison the Maroons were a lot more explosive with the ball in hand.
QLD were the better team on the day, but to suggest that NSW were terrible really sells short what was an incredibly hard fought contest at times.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:44am
Will Sinclair said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:44am | Report comment
Great post, Eric.
Agree on the front rowers. NSW persist with picking two props, and trying to manufacture a front row from the likes of Creagh and Watmough, and it simply doesn’t work.
If Aaron Woods continues to improve, you would imagine he’ll come in to the Blues team, together with big Tariq Sims. Together with “Aussie Jim” Tamou and Tim Grant, they would form a front row combination to take it to the Maroons.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:44am
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:44am | Report comment
NSW were great all series. They tough, passionate and scored gutsy. Did pretty well for a team that has a dud playing halfback.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:21am
Christo the Daddyo said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:21am | Report comment
Disappointed to read elsewhere that Ricky Stuart looks like continuing as coach. Come on Ricky, move along.
I thought the difference between the two teams was in the kicking game. Qld was really good, NSW was abysmal.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:55am
Charles said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
I am sick and tired of comments that Ricky Stuart is a great coach and should continue to with the NSW job as long as he likes! In fact I would argue the opposite is true, he is simply not up to the task. He is controversial, putting people off side, has makes mistake after mistake with his selection process, putting players in the wrong positions, persisted in keeping Mitchell Pearce at ½ back when clearly he is not up to the task and fails to address the issues which are costing NSW points. I have said for a number of years the Morris twins and Jarrod Hayne should be amongst the first selected as they are Origin material and they proved that last night, yet for example he had sacked Brett Morris when he was in form. As a former good ½ back surely he knows that Mitchell Pearce is not up to task. He passes when he should be running and runs when he should be passing, he has poor organisational skills, does not read the play and has poor kicking skills. Our attack is woeful with no structure and the backline is being used as front row forwards most of the time. One would have thought that he would have given Mitchell Pearce strict instructions not to kick to Brett Tate but sure enough he did it again! The argument that we do not have any choice for another ½ back does not hold water for me. There are many options available if we look at it objectively, even if we have to manufacture a ½ back. For example Robbie Farah could fill in the role if we can utilise someone like Hinchcliffe as hooker and we do need to bleed in another hooker for the future. Or we can use players like Jamie Soward, Todd Carney, Adam Reynolds, Peter Wallace the list goes on!
July 5th 2012 @ 11:01am
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Yeah, or get Benji Marshall to switch allegiance.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:07am
mushi said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
Benji I think is QLD eligible if he switches.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:19am
Will Sinclair said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:19am | Report comment
“Where’s New Zealand? That’s in Queensland!”
July 6th 2012 @ 9:27am
mushi said | July 6th 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Yep no-one not born and bred in NSW has ever pulled on the sky blue. Head up your colon much?
July 5th 2012 @ 11:30am
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
That’d be right. Like they need another gun halfback.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:16pm
Danno1 said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:16pm | Report comment
Charles I cede to no man in my lack of regard for Mitchell Pearce, but realistically he is the best option we have had for the last two years.
He is a very gritty player, with a pretty good passing game, a pretty good kicking game and an average running game. he is a good first grade halfback.
However of your alternatives Carney did not establish himself at this level, Soward has lost any pretence at a running game about two years ago and it ain’t coming back, Wallace is the same as Pearce but probably a little more courageous, a little more mistake prone, and a little less likely to do anything better than Pearce. After that the list truly dries up, who else Luke Walsh? He’s another from the Pearce/Wallace mould but not quite as good as either. Mullen again similar style to the others with a slightly better running game but has not set the world on fire. There’s Hornby too old, Keating not even near good enough, then we’re down to either Qlders, or Kiwis.
God knows hopefully Reynolds may be able to step up but he would need back to back seasons, he looks great, tough, fast, talented and cool under pressure, but then so did Mortimer in 2009 and Mullen in 2007, and these guys aren’t dominating now.
Maybe Jarrod Maloney might come good, but he also has defence issues, so we’re still left with a shortage of halves that can control a game like Thurston, Lockyer or Cronk, or consistently come up with a special plays like Thurston.
Hopefully with Petro gone, Qld will be that little bit worse off the field, and that may help us, but really we need Reynolds and Carney to dominate for two seasons before we can be confident we have a decent pair of halves.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:28am
Gav said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:28am | Report comment
NSW desperately need to find some halves and somebody who can kick the ball more than 35mtrs.
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July 5th 2012 @ 7:29am
Lowdown said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
The Morris brothers ensured the scoreline flattered the blues.
QLD outpointed them all over the park. Except for some insane individual efforts the blues were looking down both barrels for most of the game.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:37am
Drew said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:37am | Report comment
And you think QLD’s never been outplayed?? And still won the game? I’ve lost count of the number of times we’ve outplayed the Maroons only for them to clock up a killer try at the death. No one ever says “that scoreline flattered QLD”.
Yeah yeah, great team and all. Perhaps they deserved to win (don’t care what anyone says, the game-changing decisions went to QLD) but really am sick of people lauding this once-in-a-generation team which has had a litany of what should be ineligible players. Now THAT is killing Origin.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:01am
WQ said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Boo Hoo Drew!
The only people with issues with Origin at the present all live south of the Tweed…
July 5th 2012 @ 9:15am
Sam Brown said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
The whole concept of ‘origin’ went out the window the minute Greg Inglis was selected for Queensland. It has basically become like the old state v state matches that NSW dominated. Queensland have simply taken a leaf out of a really succesful state dynasty and stated cherry picking their players (how many games did you guys win in those series again?)
Everyone sing it with me now: “Queensland’s everywhere!!!!”
July 5th 2012 @ 9:23am
Sam Brown said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
I know I’m being provocative, I just don’t get how Queensland can go on with all this State pride garbage when they clearly don’t excercise it. If NSW was doing it, fair enough we are cheaters who have no pride in our state, but Queensland????
Aren’t you guys meant to be the state guys that holds its head high?
July 5th 2012 @ 9:47am
Mals said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
Agreed, the QLD “Origin” team nearly have as many players born in NSW as the NSW team!
July 5th 2012 @ 10:04am
Michael/Brisbane said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Here we go again..
Origin came about because NSW was flogging us with our own players, who went south for the money. Now everyone’s scrambling to be eligible for QLD when money is not an issue. What does that tell you? You can whinge all you want but at the end of the day if these player’s don’t want to play for the Blues then do you really want them there?
July 5th 2012 @ 10:54am
Sam Brown said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
And now you guys are beatig us with our own players, hence scrap the origin title.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:02am
Spot said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Yet such a short memory. One of NSW greatest halfbacks was born in Qld, but for this is never brought up in discussions.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:04am
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
No Michael, those clowns won’t play rep footy for us or anyone.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:51am
Casual Poster said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:51am | Report comment
No, sorry Sam, your just having a whinge. If you weren’t you would bring into queston players like Peter Stirling, who was born in QLD.
The pride is there, and thats why these players want to play with QLD. They see playing for the Blues as souless and without purpose and want to be a part of something bigger.
So just suck it up Sam, you lost.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Dayer said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
oops!! NSW and ACT … does that ring a bell. QLD is Qld.
NSW had ACT playing for them …. How come? HAHAHAHAH because They need help.
July 8th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Locky666 said | July 8th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Is that right? Where was the legendary Peter Sterling born, in Toowoomba, which happens to be in QLD, right. I guess that’s all okay when NSW were dominating Origin but different story now QLD have won 7 in a row regarding Greg Inglis’s birth place. I would like Mals to name all the players representing QLD who were born in NSW. Come on, dieing to know who these players are!
July 5th 2012 @ 11:24am
Lovey said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Inglis met criteria to play for Ql’d. It applies to both sides. If you have an issue with the criteria, spell out your better system.
July 5th 2012 @ 5:43pm
Gleeso said | July 5th 2012 @ 5:43pm | Report comment
Um, if you are born in NSW, grew up in NSW, played your first, say, ten seasons in NSW, supported NSW growing up, played your first senior league in NSW, got identified as a phenominal talent while playing in NSW….then you represent NSW (or no one).
That is the concept. Inglis was signed to a scholarship by Melbourne Storm at 16 having been identified in the NSW mid north coast. His cousin Albert Kelly tells everyone that he grew up supporting the Blues. Melbourne put him in an elite football program at Wavell State High in Brisbane for ONE year after he had already played for then went to live and work in Brisbane, but then at the last minute decided he did not like Brisbane and for the sake of money decided to go to Sydney. Other than for the sake of State of Origin he does not regard himself as a queenslander.
He has never held a queensland drivers license, never had a job in queensland, never paid tax in queensland and never voted in queensland. Inglis is a complete fraud and an embarressment to origin. Great player though. NSW should be proud.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:32am
Jimmy said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Heard of Ken Nagas?
July 5th 2012 @ 12:55pm
rl said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
Sam, your otherwise very valid point would probably carry more weight if Tamou wasn’t in your team. Just sayin’
July 5th 2012 @ 5:53pm
Gleeso said | July 5th 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
It is not the same rl. Not only should Inglis not be playing for Qld – he should be captaining NSW. It is like a double wamy. Worst ever.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:54pm
Kim Hart said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:54pm | Report comment
Peter Sterling – QLD, Ken Nagus – QLD, Chris Johns – QLD about a dozen blues players – ACT (That’s not NSW just because it’s within it) about 3 from London two from Tripoli and so on. It goes both ways and always has. Why don’t you address thereasons GI had for choosing to play for QLD. Perhaps it was the presence around the fringes of a now known racist – Andrew Johns. Perhaps it was because the only indigenous player of note to get a good run with NSW was Laurie Daley and then only because I’m sure no-one realised that he was.
July 6th 2012 @ 12:46pm
dishes said | July 6th 2012 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
It’s sad because on some level I agree with you. And I truly believe Inglis should be playing for NSW. I realised the NSW selectors were slightly biased when they chose Robbie Ross over David Peachey. Consider this- Peachey only played 1 Origin- imagine how many we would have played if he was a Queenslander.
I vaguely remember Inglis hinting initially that he chose QLD because he perceived the NSW system to be slightly “racist”.
Very sad, I wish Inglis was in the sky blue. It’s heartbreaking.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:02pm
Kim Hart said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
Exactly and he probably should be but I can’t cop that he just chose QLD for money or whatever else. There has to be a better reason than that. I’d also love to know why Nathan Fein lied about his heritage to play for NZ.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:06pm
Maydoh said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
No, Sam. If not before, it died when NSW was able to play Peter Sterling, born and bred in Toowoomba, Queensland. Have a go at the rules, not those who play by them.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:23pm
tommy said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
Sam, how are you a “pro” if you insert ridiculously sour grape tasting comments in an informed & interesting blog on a game of football that was played last night. “Pro” should be replaced with mug in your case.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:35pm
Damn Straight said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
I think the pro part relates to the number of articles written and read by Sam, Tommy.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:41pm
soapit said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
sterling born in toowoomba raised in wagga since a small boy.
a bit different to moving to qld at 16 when the dollars started being offered around. and you guys do realise the qrl lied about inglis’ eligibility and even by the rules he is supposed to be playing in blue (according to his wikipedia page anyway).
but after 6 years its a moot point really.
but i’ve always said the eligibility needs enough flexibility so people arent forced to play for a state because they were born while their parents are on holiday but can just pick whichever state they think they’ll have a better shot at when they get scouted. something in between. can’t be that hard to come up with surely.
July 5th 2012 @ 4:02pm
soapit said | July 5th 2012 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
make that “can’t just pick”
July 5th 2012 @ 7:36am
Gaz said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Ryan, regarding Pearce, Ticky has a history of sacking half-backs, good half-backs, so if I were Pearce and wanted to play origin I’d be doing my darnest to follow his every wish. So maybe he is simply following orders. Maybe?
July 5th 2012 @ 7:41am
B.A Sports said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:41am | Report comment
Point 1. – Agree – If you don’t put the opposition away, you leave human error, be it a one-on-one missed tackle or a refereeing error, to chance.
Point 2. Agree. I am not a Pearce hater like some, but I thought Wallace should have been the no.7 for Game 1. There were times last night when the Blues had no shape, and he just seems to fade out of the game for sections. It could be said NSW didn’t have good field position for him to get creative, but they didn’t have good field position largely because of his poor kicking game.
Point 3. I don’t think they choked. I didn’t see much difference in the way they played from Game 1 – Game 3. They don’t play with good field position and just don’t create enough chances. They scored just eight tries in the three games and five of those were from kicks. You can’t say you were the better team when those are the stats.
Point 4. It’s playing semantics but I wouldn’t have said “most impressive” series win, because I don’t think defensively they were tested that much and for large parts of all three games they did look a bit disjointed and disorganised. I would say maybe, “tenacious”, or “gutsy”.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:44am
oikee said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Well done Ryan. Everyone of those 34 players were simply brilliant. Not one player let their team down, it was unreal.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:19am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
You’re very gracious in victory, Oikee. C’mon, let me have it. I expect it. I demand it!
July 5th 2012 @ 9:33am
Will Sinclair said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Who are you, and what have you done with oikee?
July 5th 2012 @ 7:52am
roarr said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:52am | Report comment
My observations
1. NSW need another good prop. Grant and Tamou look great in the opening 20, and then it all fell apart. Another good prop or two combined with the mobile backrow and they should hold it together until the starters come back (see Hannant and Shillington).
2. NSW lacked direction. The forwards played alright, but the team just didnt know where the wanted to be on the field when it came to the crunch plays. They never really looked that threatening and the centres didnt see enough ball. Blame probably falls on Pearce, its his job to direct the team. Especially strange considering his coach is a former origin halfback.
3.Great game and great series!!!
July 5th 2012 @ 10:25am
Sean said | July 5th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Agreed, Aaron Woods on the bench instead of Creagh would have made a massive difference!
July 5th 2012 @ 2:12pm
Jimmy said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
What about Cam Smith’s shot on Backpeddaling Creagh….wow!!