Hail to the Chiefs, and watch out Wallabies!
By Spiro Zavos, 6 Aug 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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The Chiefs perform the Haka after their win against the Sharks in the Super Rugby grand final (Image: AFP / Marty Melville)
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The Sharks were competitive without being threatening for the first 16 minutes of a one-sided Super Rugby final, while the Chiefs scored four tries and conceded only two successful penalties in a 37-6 victory.
The Chiefs are now the third New Zealand team to win a Super Rugby tournament, and only the sixth franchise out of 15.
But let’s be honest about this and fair to the Sharks – they played their real final last week against the Stormers.
This was the ultimate South African derby, with bragging rights through 2013 for the winning side. The Sharks had flown back from Brisbane after handsomely defeating the Reds in the semi-final. The Stormers had an extra week to prepare. But they were blown away by the all-round power and skill of the Sharks’ game.
But then the Sharks had to fly to Hamilton, via a couple days rest in Sydney, to play a rampant Chiefs side that had defeated the Crusaders, the iconic New Zealand Super Rugby team.
There is no doubt that all this flying took its toll on the Sharks. They lacked the zip and the energy to capitalise on their early field position and possession.
I also think they were not mentally up for the final. To my mind there was a sense about their play that they had won the match that really mattered to them the weekend before.
Their play was predictable, a sign of mental and physical tiredness. The signs were everywhere in fact. With the score line 10-3 in favour of the Chiefs after about 25 minutes, the Sharks won two penalties within a minute of each other.
The second was on their 10m mark and a good kick could have had play just outside the Chiefs’ 22. But just after Steve Walsh blew his whistle and signalled against the Chiefs, Jannie du Plessis, who had been smacked on the nose by the shoulder of a Chiefs forward, swung around and sort of bopped him.
Walsh changed the penalty and gave it to the Chiefs. Aaron Cruden kicked the goal and the scoreline was a more inaccessible 13-3.
By way of comparison, the Chiefs brought in new plays, especially one tricky lineout move near the Shark try line. They looked to score tries, even when they had the game wrapped up and could have settled for penalty shots. They grew stronger and faster as the game progressed and they handled the wet conditions better with their clever kicking game.
Before South Africans jump on me for somehow being anti-South African when I make this point about the lethargy of the Sharks play, I would argue that this is more an explanation of the surprisingly flat performance of the Sharks, not a criticism.
The same sort of argument, I would suggest, applied to the All Blacks in their 2011 Rugby World Cup final against France. It was clear from being at Eden Park for the semi-final against the Wallabies that the All Blacks and their supporters considered this to be the real final of the tournament.
The same sort of thing happened, in my opinion, against the Sharks. The All Blacks had enough energy in their tank, the home ground advantage working for them, too, to scrap out a less than convincing victory in the 2011 Rugby World Cup final but the Sharks were playing away from home and were travel-weary.
You had the feeling that they were going through the motions of a sort of inevitable defeat whereas the Chiefs were hungry for points to annihilate the Sharks right from the beginning of the game.
There has been the suggestion that the final should be held two weeks after the semi-finals to help the travelling side get over its tiredness and jet-lag. This would be a bad move, in my opinion. The point about the finals system that is in place is that it rewards teams for winning matches during the pool rounds. I would make one adjustment, though. The final should be held at the home ground of the team that has gained the most pool round points.
The system makes it difficult, admittedly, for a team that is in the sixth place in the finals. But this is as it should be. The teams higher up in the table should get the benefit of their consistent winning record during the season.
The Chiefs have the chance, as the Reds did last year, of establishing a dynasty. They will lose Sonny Bill Williams, who in my view was Man of the Match, setting up a try with a smashing run, a second try with a smashing tackle, and then scoring a try himself and doing the Green Bay Packers trick of leaping into the crowd behind the goal posts. But the majority of the squad is coming back and, most importantly, the same coaching staff will be on board in 2013.
I have no hesitation in saying that if SBW stayed he would cement a place in the All Black side and also a reputation as one of the greatest inside centres in the history of the game. He may well come back to rugby union, but whether he can regain the magic he has now acquired is a moot point.
It’s hard to believe that last season the Chiefs had 10 losses and only six wins. They also lost the first game of this season at home against the Highlanders. Now they have developed into a complete side. Their set pieces, especially the scrums (notice there wasn’t one reset during the game), are excellent. They closed down the Sharks lineout. Their defence was ruthless, athletic and hard-shouldered.
Cruden is becoming the Alfie Langer of Chiefs and, in time, All Blacks rugby – small, tough, tricky, lethal in attack and adept at setting up runners. As the Reds learnt to their cost this season, teams are only as competitive as the ability of their number 10 to influence the outcome of matches by making the right decisions at the right times. Cruden is quickly getting to this status.
And most importantly, for this is the best indication of great coaching, every player in the Chiefs side developed tremendously during the season. Two cases will make the point. Craig Clarke up to this season has been regarded as a journeyman second rower. Now he is the next second rower to be selected if one of the current All Blacks get injured.
Robbie Robinson was a young, talented but error-prone back in the past. Coming back from injury sustained earlier in the season, he has been a revelation on the wing and on Saturday night at fullback. His running of the ball back to the Sharks was a decisive factor in the outcome of the match.
The point here is that Clarke was an older player who has improved greatly and Robinson is a younger player who has improved.
You have to hand it to the coaching staff of Dave Rennie (an All Blacks coach of the future), Wayne Smith, Tom Coventry (the forwards coach) and Andrew Strawbridge (the skills coach) for turning around the Chiefs franchise.
They have taken a losing franchise and, within one season, turned it into a potential dynasty. And they did this by developing a team style that is aggressive on attack and defence.
This turnaround should somehow be an inspiration for the Waratahs franchise. But why is it that I don’t think the authorities at the Waratahs will make an intense study of what happened at the Chiefs this season and implement changes to achieve the same thing?
I’ll give the Waratahs board one clue. Look at the coaching staff of the Chiefs. It all starts at the top.
The other point I take out of the finals is the quality of play of the Chiefs and the Crusaders. These two New Zealand teams are playing a style that is hard-shouldered and ruthless in the contact areas of play and skilful, relentless, smart and fast in moving the ball around the field with the intent to score tries. Complete and championship-winning rugby, in other words.
If these attributes are transferred to the All Blacks, and the squad announced on Sunday reflects this sort of intention, then the Wallabies need to watch out at Sydney in the first Bledisloe Cup Test on August 18. The Rugby World Cup 2011 victory seems to have inspired the New Zealand rugby community to raise the level of performances on the field rather than rest on their laurels.
That is the bigger picture, it seems to me, that was drawn at Hamilton on Saturday night.
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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August 6th 2012 @ 7:25am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
The Chiefs will also lose smiling Sona Taumalolo and there is talk that Kane Thompson may be departing too.
IMO Kahui will easily fill SBW’s place while time for Toby Smith to step up at loosehead. With the coaching team intact perhaps the Chiefs will become the force they have always threatened and assert some dominance in this competition.
Your assessment the NZ Rugby appears to be seeking another level seems on the money based on what we have seen so far. With the RWC hoodoo finally put to bed perhaps Shag and co can make this next step.
Well done Chiefs. Now bring on the Rugby Championship!
August 6th 2012 @ 9:46am
Acorn said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
yep the difference in intensity is scary. look at the physical nature of the finals series, the speed of play, the aussie teams would (and Qld did) get blown off the park. obviously test match rugby is a step up again in intensity, so for the wallaby’s sake i hope Robbie is doing something special in those camps or they’re going to get bashed and thrashed.
August 6th 2012 @ 3:35pm
Harryonthecoast said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
The first thing he needs to do is fix the scrum. I wouldn’t mind a bet that the first scrum on August 18 collapses and a penalty is awarded to the ABs.
August 6th 2012 @ 7:25am
z1000 said | August 6th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
Congratulations Chiefs. Deserved the win. Also well done Sharks.
It will be interesting to see who the AB’s pick for blind side. Messam is the form player but will they return to Vito? Thompson is a great player but doesn’t have the physical presence IMO.
August 6th 2012 @ 7:34am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
I’m with you.
Messam for me; his consistent form demands it.
August 6th 2012 @ 7:50am
z1000 said | August 6th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
I’d like to see Andre Taylor in there as well instead of Savea. His high ball skills are dubious at best. Taylor, Dagg & Jane for the back three.
August 6th 2012 @ 8:01am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:01am | Report comment
I’m a Taylor fan too and that’s a hell of a back 3, but it would seem more likely he’ll go on the end of year tour with the likes of Kerr-Barlow, based on Shag’s previous comments about his development.
So Savea/Gear with Jane and Dagg which is still pretty formidable. Savea/Dagg to get some aerial testing which I’m sure the All Blacks will be aware of and preparing them for. Pretty sure Savea was a bit safer with his hands in his Canes colours on returning to his franchise from the June Tests; maybe the big occasion got to him?
August 6th 2012 @ 8:18am
biltongbek said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:18am | Report comment
Taylor has been my favourite non SA player this season, then Cruden.
Two very talented youngsters those two.
August 6th 2012 @ 9:32am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
Morning Biltongbek.
While Taylor has been a revelation it’s Cruden who has really lifted the bar IMO.
The way he takes the ball to the line for such a slight man. His agility and running game, his distribution, his kicking but perhaps most importantly his reading of what’s in front of him and potentially behind that.
That 20 minutes in the 3rd Test against the Irish is some of the best rugby you will ever see. He is not far from displacing the great DC. To have these two duelling for pivot is exciting and great for the game here.
August 6th 2012 @ 2:24pm
thesportsguy said | August 6th 2012 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
agreed about cruden. he has improved out of sight this year and has balls of steel in attack and defence. i was trying to make a comparison of his body type / build / in position before, and came to the conclusion we have never seen a 5/8 that small with that quality. maybe im wrong.
August 6th 2012 @ 3:37pm
Jerry said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
That should probably read “ball of steel”….
August 7th 2012 @ 5:10am
mania said | August 7th 2012 @ 5:10am | Report comment
thesportsguy – tony brown. was smaller and hit harder
August 6th 2012 @ 8:32am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:32am | Report comment
z1000 – savea’s high ball skills are dubious at best? thats a bit harsh considering he’s dropped 3-4 high balls all season and 2 of them coming from the one test game. i’ll admit savea had a terrible game in the 2nd test but he wasnt the only one. he’s reliable under high ball 99% of he time. he’s a better power runner than andreTaylor tho andre reads the game better and is better at conjuring something out of nothing
savea to make the RC and andre to get call up for EOYT
August 7th 2012 @ 7:14am
z1000 said | August 7th 2012 @ 7:14am | Report comment
Maybe it’s just me but he looks uncomfortable catching the high ball. Just my opinion & maybe in time he can rectify this.
August 7th 2012 @ 7:32am
mania said | August 7th 2012 @ 7:32am | Report comment
that was in the 2nd test, where he had a nightmare. in the first test he defused about 2 bombs but dropped one cold as well. generally he’s reliable
August 6th 2012 @ 11:08am
winston said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
I’m just glad they’ve finally seen the light with not picking Guilford.
I prefer Gear over Savea.
August 6th 2012 @ 5:43pm
Tacksharp said | August 6th 2012 @ 5:43pm | Report comment
Andre Taylor instead of Ben Smith. That’s what needs to be done.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:09pm
RebelRanger said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:09pm | Report comment
Agreed. Not sure what they see in Ben Smith..
August 6th 2012 @ 9:01am
rl said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Messam really has taken his game to another level this year. It will probably come down to a ‘horses for courses’ approach, and what a luxury to have being able to pick from Vito, Thompson and Messam!
BTW well played Chiefs! And well played Shorks too – poor buggers were hamstrung by all the travel. If they can bring the same mojo thay had for the last few weeks, the Saffas will make a big noise in the RC.
August 6th 2012 @ 9:43am
Spencer said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Doesn’t Kane Thompson play for Samoa?
August 6th 2012 @ 10:04am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
rl may be referring to Adam Thompson I think, Spencer.
August 6th 2012 @ 11:53am
rl said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
I was indeed, but Kane is certainly pretty handy too!
August 6th 2012 @ 7:36am
Colin said | August 6th 2012 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Oh well, there’s always next year for the Sharks to try again. Truth was I wrote them off after the Lions loss, so I should be happy they went so far. Agree with everything Spiro says and well done Chiefs – worthy and deserved champions.
August 6th 2012 @ 8:19am
biltongbek said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Well done Spiro in leaving the referee out of this.
August 6th 2012 @ 8:28am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
way to go sharks. from 6th to 2nd place is an awesome accomplishment.
wow only just realised about the scrum resets. good point spiro
craigClarke deserves a call to the AB’s. not saying he’s going to be successfull but it’d be criminal not to find out.
August 6th 2012 @ 8:48am
Marshall said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Some great calls in relation to who should be bumped up, and without a doubt I feel that Messam deserves a starting spot and would love to see the club man Craig Clarke get an opportunity too (right on Mania).
August 6th 2012 @ 11:05am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:05am | Report comment
marshall – esp now that the AB’s are only carrying 3 locks.
August 6th 2012 @ 8:56am
ohtani's jacket said | August 6th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
I thought Clarke is out for six weeks. He wasn’t supposed to play in the final.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:08am
moaman said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:08am | Report comment
Yep=Clarke was carrying a serious knee injury;gutsy effort by him.
Was absolutely stoked to see the Chiefs get up.I worried they had played their final last week v Crusaders but they still had some gas in the tank.
Was interested to hear post-match that they had trained all week in wet conditions.What sort of weather did the Sharks have in Sydney? Ball retention was more difficult with the greasy ball but the ground stood up well.
Also great that two teams that favour a postive style got to contest the final and show-piece of a tough competition.Augurs well for next season I reckon.
Messam played his way into that AB squad last two weeks Imo.Only two fit locks selected.Hope Romano not too far away.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:33am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
Morning Moa,
According to Shag Romano is on track to start the first test.
They’re going to use Read in the line outs apparently should the need arise.
August 6th 2012 @ 9:43am
Worlds Biggest said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Congrats to the Chiefs, terrific all year and deserving champions. The Sharks were great all season too but were always up against it in Hamilton.Hey OJ I thought only NZ national teams could do the haka !
August 6th 2012 @ 9:48am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
Worlds Biggest – only national teams can do the ‘ka mate’ haka. this haka was all about the chiefs
August 6th 2012 @ 1:46pm
Cattledog said | August 6th 2012 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
National Teams and sheep
http://youtu.be/dtSK4M6JS3c
August 6th 2012 @ 10:12am
WQ said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Congratulations to the Chiefs, it is not easy to be the front runners all year and then convert that into a championship win, just ask the Stormers.
I agree with Spiro, SBW was sensational and was my Man of the Match as well. The biggest change in SBW over this last season has been his decision making on attack. He has stopped trying to break the line or off-load at every opportunity and not because he does not want to, but because he is now thinking as a cog in a machine as opposed to an individual. Hats of to Dave Rennie and Wayne Smith for their contribution to SBW. I think it also clearly points to the deficiencies in Todd Blackadders coaching skills.
Liam Messam must surely now be pushing for a start at 6 for the All Blacks, wonderful to see some competition there between himself Vito and Thompson. Surely Thompson will now only cover an injury in the All Blacks squad and only if Sam Cane is deemed to not be big enough?
As an All Black supporter I am very excited about not only the upcoming Rugby Championship, but also the replacing of the guard over the next two years.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:17am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
ditto WQ – while i disagree bout messam as i’m i’m a canes supporter so vouch for vito gotta say its exciting times… but messam is easily deserving of a call up.
i’ve said this since the start of super this season that NZ are unusually fortunate that the year after a WC we’ve never been so well placed for players. all the new rookies plus an unusual light exodus has meant that AB’s are spoilt for choice.
these a very exciting times for AB’s rugby
August 6th 2012 @ 10:41am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Take those yellow tinted glasses off Mania
Vito should most definitely be there but it is Messam whose recent form demands a starting spot.
His all round game but particularly his intensity and mongrel have reached another level this season; he has listend and learned since not making the RWC squad last year.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:48am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
riccardo – u try being a canes supporter and see if your not grabbing every single positive straw you can get your grasping fingers around.
i agree messam deserves another shot, but while i hope he does well lets not forget all the other times he’s played in black, and have vito very close by at the ready
August 6th 2012 @ 11:09am
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
“u try being a canes supporter and see if your not grabbing every single positive straw you can get your grasping fingers around”
I’m sure I’ve told you that I remain a Blues supporter? Enough said? I’m lucky I can still watch rugby considering what my team’s dished up year!
Yeah, Messam’s been there before (2008 & 2011?) and your apprehension may be justified; I just think he looks like a different player with the Chiefs this year. Coaches? Co-captaining with Clarke? Kaino’s departure?
Whatever the reason his football and attitude are doing the talking; he just needs to translate it in a black jersey.
August 6th 2012 @ 11:30am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
oops thats right riccardo. least your franchise has some finals medals but i’ll shut up and concede my mouth jumped the gun.
i agree messam looks the real deal but i’ll reserve my judgement. he played well in the 3rd test but then all the AB’s were wide awake for that game. i hope he plays well but time will tell. messam at least deserves to be allowed to prove himself
August 6th 2012 @ 11:37am
WQ said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Imagine how tough it is for an ex-Kiwi whom is a Reds supporter!
Riccardo I think the difference with Messam is attitude, he has always had the skill just was not right between the ears. Now he is.
I still believe that Vito should be a step in front as far as the All Blacks go just purely on the fact he has the runs on the board however he would not want to stumble.
Is it not wonderful as an AB’s supporter to have had the Kaino question answered so quickly. I don’t want to jump the gun and I certainly do not want to devalue the loss of Kaino, however Vito and Messam look to have the goods!
August 6th 2012 @ 11:57am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:57am | Report comment
thanx WQ, guess i’m the only one being a needless crybaby. thanx for placing me in my place. sheesh tough crowd. i’ll admit u got it the hardest WQ.
i agree messams seems better than in the past, but i’m still wary due to being such a messam fan and him just not being as good as i gave him credit for. would love for him to perform.
wq – i was never worried about kaino’s departure. i always knew either the current replacements would fill the void or a whole new type of player would appear. kaino didnt really own his jersey till a couple of years ago. it took about 3-4 years for kaino to be the best 6 in the world. his replacement doesnt have to be great as kaino was he just needs to play his own game and not f it up
August 6th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Riccardo said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
You’re never an ex-Kiwi my friend.
Your loyalties may be questionable but at least you support the All Blacks still.
I am excited by the All Blacks and the RC with the addition of the Pumas.
I disagree with you on Victor being the incumbent as I believe Messam’s form is demanding; that said though it’s definitely nice to have some these 2 & Thompson competing for that worrisome position.
August 6th 2012 @ 12:08pm
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
tru riccardo – theres no such thing as an exKiwi.
good luck to messam. he deserves another shot and i hope he takes it with both hands if awarded. but i feel safer knowing that vito and adamThompson are available
August 6th 2012 @ 12:21pm
WQ said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
Been in Australia since I was 6, some things are just to hard to let go of!
Even though I have lived here most of my life, I still love to see the Kiwis get up in any sport. I think its a combination of my roots and the fact that Kiwis over-perform on the World’s Sporting Stage. Given a total population of 4 million, Kiwis would have to be the best sports people in the world.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:14am
Pierce said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
I’ve been a huge Dave Rennie fan since he taught/coached my nephew at Ferguson Intermediate. Everywhere he goes and everywhere he’s been the joint and everyone in it just seem better. Not afraid to surround himself with the best support staff either unlike some head coaches who might feel threatened by having a current RWC winning coach on the books. For those of us who have followed his career the wonderful culture at the Chiefs is no surprise and typical of the outfits he has been involved with. Looking forward to him being ABs coach, for me the sooner the better.
Just saw some lowlife(s) burgled Dave’s house during the final. The police “would like Chiefs fans to become our eyes and ears”. Good luck if the fans get hold of him/them
August 6th 2012 @ 3:29pm
Nik said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
Yep it looks that way. And Dingo? Poor Dingo – it looks like he just slipped a little further down the pecking order unless he’s not too proud to take a possible assistant role..
August 6th 2012 @ 9:45pm
AndyS said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:45pm | Report comment
Maybe, but someone made the interesting observation that the Crusaders have made the finals every year since he left but haven’t converted once. Longest spell without winning it…
August 6th 2012 @ 3:42pm
Harryonthecoast said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:42pm | Report comment
Yeah, saw that….the bastards!!!
August 6th 2012 @ 3:44pm
Harryonthecoast said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Sorry that comment was supposed to be under Pierce’s post. And i haven’t even had a G and T yet!!!
August 6th 2012 @ 10:20am
Darwin Stubbie said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
‘The system makes it difficult, admittedly, for a team that is in the sixth place in the finals. But this is as it should be. The teams higher up in the table should get the benefit of their consistent winning record during the season’
I’d say it actually it makes it impossible – if history of SR can tell us anything home ground advantage is massive … Come finals time it has been warped far too much with this current system … The 1st paragraph says it all – the Sharks were competitive for 16 mins after that they were making school boy errors and basic handling errors …. The result was a foregone conclusion
This is the grand final of a international tournament yet is was a flop from a neutral perspective – in Aust rugby is struggling to keep up with the NRL and AFL and they continually out perform come finals time because they put out sides on as level a playing field as possible …. SR needs to try and correct this massive imbalance if they want to make this competition have merit going forward – otherwise it won’t escape the feeling it really is nothing other than a revenue tack on for TV companies keen to get hold of the real money earner the RC
The chiefs deserved home ground advantage – but playing such a jet-lagged sides is an advantage too far ….
August 6th 2012 @ 10:24am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
gotta disagree DS. admittedly its hard but it isnt impossible. had sharks scored in the first 16 mins then the result could’ve been different. sharks showed how exhausted they were from the 20 min mark onwards but had they been winning all that exhaustion would’ve disapeared.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:34am
ohtani's jacket said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
The Super Rugby final is pretty minor. It feels like just another round of the regular competition. SBW mentioned the difference in build-up between the Super Rugby final and the NRL Grand Final, but I reckon a regular round of SR has infinitely less hype than an NRL round. The presentation (particularly in NZ) is low key and reserved. I don’t know if it’s because people like it that way, there isn’t enough money or rugby is simply conservative, but SANZAR is not good at hype. It doesn’t help that the real stuff begins so soon after Super Rugby. That makes SR seem like a formality. There’s no time for a SR victory to sink in and no long wait for another crack at the title like there is with NRL and most other sports. A longer break for the final would be fairer, but I don’t think it would raise people’s perceptions about the importance of the final.
August 6th 2012 @ 12:04pm
allblackfan said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
OJ, the low-key presentation is a reflection of the people, especially NZ.
Walk the walk, don’t talk the talk. (But from all I read, there was a lot of hype building in Hamilton as the game drew nearer.)
Also, SR is an international tournament of which there is only one team in each province. Hard to build the hype (especially in Oz) when people may not know where the team comes from.
August 6th 2012 @ 11:24am
Harry said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
The Chiefs finished 2nd on the ladder and won their home final. Not their fault that the Stormers couldn’t win their game against a side that had been back and forth the week before. If the Stormers could have beaten the Sharks they would have played the Chiefs at their home ground and had a massive advantage.
Instead the Stormers choked and the Chiefs took advantage of this.
The Chiefs played an exciting and excellent brand of rugby all year round, including the final, congratulations to them and their supporters.
Roll on the Rugby Championships. Hope Deans and the Walls have been training with a wet ball at night and with the required intensity … I remember back under the reign of Eddie our boys would prepare for their end-of-season European tour by having a couple of weeks at Coffs Harbour in the sunny spring. Then moaning about the tough conditions when it was raining, windy and cold come the tests in November!
August 6th 2012 @ 11:31am
WQ said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Darwin Stubbie, whilst I don’t entirely disagree with you, you only have to look back to last years final to see a great contest that went down to the wire.
The Crusaders traveled not only in the final but for every game!
August 6th 2012 @ 1:37pm
Winston said | August 6th 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
With a weeks break the saders would have won
August 6th 2012 @ 1:27pm
Spiro Zavos said | August 6th 2012 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
How many NRL or AFL teams have won their premiership from the bottom position in the finals? The whole point about having pool rounds before the finals is to provide a hierarchy of teams going into the finals, and then rewarding them for their results during the pool rounds.
It is nonsense to say that this final was a ‘flop’. It was anything but that. It was a terrific match, well-played and well-refereed played in front of rightly parochial and sell-out crowd.
What more do you want from finals rugby?
The score line was a blow out. But this happens in finals in all the codes. The semi-finals, though, went down to the wire with the losing teams on attack and potentially able to win the match before the final whistle blew.
The spectator and television numbers for 2012 Super Rugby tournament are very strong, especially in South African and New Zealand.
They are at about last year’s levels in Australia (which was a great year for Australian rugby with the Reds winning the Super Rugby tournament). And this takes into account this season’s abysmal performance by the year of the Waratahs, traditionally the strongest franchise in terms of support in Australia.
August 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm
Andrew C (waikato) said | August 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Agreed Spiro, I’m of the opinion that the best team / The Chiefs won and the score blowout was the result of the Sharks hitting the proverbial brick wall in the second half (the result of too much travel over the maginot line
in the past 3 weeks of the playoffs), probably helped by a wee bit also by some blind refereeing – which in the end, didn’t cost the Sharks the game per se. We revitalised Chiefs supporters will sorely miss both Sonny Bill Williams and Sona Taumalolo next season but definitely did NOT miss the coaching skills (sic) of Ian Foster in 2012 and beyond. Perhaps he can contribute in some significant manner to the All Blacks instead !!
August 6th 2012 @ 3:46pm
Darwin stubbie said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:46pm | Report comment
I’m sorry I’m getting a bit confused – which was it ? a terrific final or all over after 16 mins …. Look I’m not trying to rain onthe chiefs parade here … Given the Manawatu connection I was more than happy to sit through it – but it was obvious the sharks weren’t in it and the final as a neutral spectacle wouldn’t have gripped the average punter …
OJ is correct SR doesn’t promote the finals and it was evident from last year SANZAR has put little or no thought into the new format … Overall I’m not that concerned I watch SR for the NZ teams and hang out for the NPC and tests … But if they want to make this thing a serious comp then the hard fought games should not stop at the semis and that is what we are getting currently
August 6th 2012 @ 5:10pm
WQ said | August 6th 2012 @ 5:10pm | Report comment
Again Darwin stubbie I offer my comment from 11:31 about last years final.
I would also add that your average punter does’nt tune in or buy tickets to the final, 99% of the audience would be dead set Rugby fans. I’ll bet there was not one single Chiefs fan bored with the game.
August 6th 2012 @ 5:42pm
Darwin Stubbie said | August 6th 2012 @ 5:42pm | Report comment
All last years final displayed is how good a side ( and how well set up) the crusaders were … A lot of people love to take poke at blackadder but no other side could have still been in that final with the same travel schedule that crusaders had last year – but even prior to the game you knew that they needed to be well up at the 60 min mark to have a chance
Look all I’m saying is that for an international tournament with a finals series you need to have a show piece GF …. If we’re saying the 4th, 5th, 6th teams aren’t going to have a shot then why open up the finals to 6 teams (obviously it nothing other than a cash grab) … Last year the Warriors went from 8th to the GF and had a decent crack at winning the thing …. Conversely the Sharks had a similar Cinderella run – but had zero chance ..
August 6th 2012 @ 2:06pm
Kuruki said | August 6th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
Although the travel was a huge factor another thing to remember is that not many teams string 3 high intensity games together in a row. It hardly ever happens. There was always an average performance around the corner for the Sharks after lifting to such heights 2 weeks in a row.
August 6th 2012 @ 10:23am
ohtani's jacket said | August 6th 2012 @ 10:23am | Report comment
I can’t see the Chiefs’ victory having too much impact on the Sydney test. The Crusaders won the Super 14 in 2008 and we got a right old spanking in Sydney that year. The Sydney test will be won by whoever starts best. That’s been a reoccurring theme in the most recent Bledisloe tests.
Like most Kiwis, I’m happy for the Chiefs franchise and the Waikato and catchment areas as well as the players and caoching staff, but they caught a lucky break getting a home final. I hope history remembers how much the Sharks helped in winning the Chiefs their first championship.
August 6th 2012 @ 11:25am
Sam Taulelei said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:25am | Report comment
I agree but maybe for different reasons.
This year there aren’t any major law changes for the All Blacks coaches to get to grips with unlike the ELV’s in 2008 which Robbie Deans had a whole season coaching the Crusaders to understand and exploit.
Secondly there isn’t as much of an exodus of personnel following a world cup as there has been in previous post cup years, so Hansen has a very settled, experienced squad with a sprinkling of new faces, compared to 2008 and we won’t be playing the Wallabies coming off the back of a loss.
Finally it’s been a good year for all NZ franchises apart from the Blues, unlike most years when one or two teams have carried NZ’s hopes going into the finals. Having four teams push for a spot in the final six and winning the title is healthy for rugby in NZ. The impact of those teams having good seasons is reflected in the makeup of the squad, the Crusaders still have the highest representation but it’s not as dominant as it used to be.
August 6th 2012 @ 11:50am
ohtani's jacket said | August 6th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
Fair points about the ELVs, etc. I think the advantage in having the Crusaders make the semis and the Chiefs win is a bit like when people would claim the ITM Cup gave the All Blacks an advantage over the Wallabies for the fourth Bledisloe tests. I don’t think that ever materialised. It’s always about preparation and being ready to play. The Wallabies have home advantage and should go into the match confident.
August 6th 2012 @ 12:16pm
Sam Taulelei said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
And if anything, the Chiefs showed the Wallabies the template to upset the All Blacks with the way they played the Crusaders.
August 6th 2012 @ 12:45pm
Justin2 said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
You can only hope Deans picked up on it, numerous coaches missed how the Reds dismantled the Chiefs as an example.
August 6th 2012 @ 12:59pm
Sam Taulelei said | August 6th 2012 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
The Reds work over the tackle ball by all players really disrupted the Chiefs momentum in that second half and they weren’t forced to commit too many players so could exploit the turnover ball instead of kicking it away.
Then the Sharks did to the Reds, what they did to the Chiefs.
August 6th 2012 @ 3:03pm
Justin2 said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
Sam The Reds pick and go dismantled the Chiefs. They constantly got in behind the defence and the game opened up for them from there.
August 6th 2012 @ 3:09pm
Sam Taulelei said | August 6th 2012 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
Yep you’re right, they were able to make too many easy metres straight up the middle.
Even though they lost, I really enjoyed watching that game and the Chiefs never gave up, they still attacked as if they were in with a chance to win.
August 6th 2012 @ 1:25pm
Winston said | August 6th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
They dont have chief like mongrel forwards though.
August 6th 2012 @ 2:00pm
ohtani's jacket said | August 6th 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
I don’t know about all this template business. How many times did the Reds beat the Crusaders prior to the WC semi?