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What has happened to the Titans?

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    The Gold Coast Titans take on the Eels in Darwin. (Digital pic by Robb Cox © Action Photographics.)

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    The Gold Coast Titans entered the NRL in 2007 with a bang. They were an exciting team that played real honest to God footy. Five years on, they are on the verge of a rugby league nervous breakdown.

    There is a perception in rugby league land that the Titans bought well in the off season. But what have they really done?

    Signed a sleeping giant in Jamal Idris who refuses to get involved. A walking headline in Nate Myles. A third-string hooker in Beau Falloon, and former Melbourne Storm centre Beau Champion despite already having Bodene Thompson, Dominic Peyroux, Phil Graham and Idris at the club.

    After the season from hell in 2011 where they received the wooden spoon, coach John Cartwright went for the quick fix. He and Titans management splurged on players they probably didn’t really need.

    Cartwright is a coach with blinkers on. He has failed to see that the problems within the club lie with his veterans. Old friends like Scott Prince and Luke Bailey.

    One of the hardest jobs an NRL coach has is to sack his mates. With Luke Douglas and Ryan James breathing down his neck, time is catching up with Bailey. But time has Prince around the throat.

    If Cartwright doesn’t make a call on them, he may well find it costs him his place instead.

    Not even the signing of Dave Taylor can stem the flow running against the Titans at the moment.

    With Melbourne Storm superstar Cooper Cronk off contract at the end of the season, surely the Titans could have had a real crack at signing the representative playmaker. The money they have thrown at Idris and Myles surely could have been thrown at Cronk and a solution to the playmaking dilemma at Robina.

    2012 may have been a slow season before Cronk’s arrival. But it couldn’t be any slower than what is happening now.

    There are some strange things happening on and off the field in the south of Queensland lately.

    As of this weekend, the Titans major sponsor iSelect will offer free tickets to fans who go to Skilled Park and watch their team lose.

    Managing director Michael Searle says times are hard for the Titans. “It’s a tough market (but) we’ve got to try and coerce people out of their lounge rooms and back to the games.”

    Why would fans want to pay to see the Titans get belted twice?

    Then there were the headlines that the Titans were facing a second lawsuit in the Supreme Court. These are dangerous and bizarre times for the Gold Coast.

    All this on the back of the news that William Zillman has re-signed on a new five year deal. How the hell did Zillman get five years?

    There are some serious problems up there, and the scariest part is we probably have a long way to go yet.

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    • March 19th 2012 @ 9:11am
      Matt_S said | March 19th 2012 @ 9:11am | ! Report

      Easy, GFC hit, they did not get the expected rentals on office space. Also the tradies did dodgy jobs which they needed to fix, thus the centre of excellence has become a noose around the football clubs neck.

      Apparently the tradies are bad naming the titans around the coast and the have a compliant media to assist them without knowing the full facts.

      Meanwhile many tradies are driving their latest 4WD’s and ripping people off.

      • March 19th 2012 @ 7:07pm
        Lorry said | March 19th 2012 @ 7:07pm | ! Report

        Tradies have now joined of the petit-bourgeois, ripping off their own class, betraying the working class nature of League, the ‘Opera of the Proletariat’!

        • March 19th 2012 @ 11:28pm
          Westie said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:28pm | ! Report

          Not really the forum to debate it, but we need to follow Britain and de-regulate trades. It is not rocket science nailing a couple of bits of wood together or soldering a piece of metal onto another bit.

          Trades regulation is holding back Australia. Let anyone do it.

    • March 19th 2012 @ 9:31am
      Fivehole said | March 19th 2012 @ 9:31am | ! Report

      This is why we don’t need a third south east queensland team. They can’t fill the stadiums of the 2 they have. With their excellent road networks, the gold coast is in easy driving distance of the majority of Brisbane.

      • March 19th 2012 @ 11:03am
        Sam el Perro said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:03am | ! Report

        Easy road networks? The Gold Coast is a nightmare to drive around.

        • March 19th 2012 @ 11:18am
          Fivehole said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:18am | ! Report

          I guess everything is relative. Done much driving around Sydney lately?

          • March 19th 2012 @ 3:46pm
            Sam el Perro said | March 19th 2012 @ 3:46pm | ! Report

            Nope. But I have driven around the Coast. It is painful and slow.

        • March 19th 2012 @ 1:34pm
          GC Tiger said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:34pm | ! Report

          Crap, the staduim is right off the highway, and right beside the train Station.

          • March 19th 2012 @ 3:46pm
            Sam el Perro said | March 19th 2012 @ 3:46pm | ! Report

            Yep, it is good convenient to get to from Brisbane. Intra-GC traffic is rubbish, however. To get to the highway *from* most of the coast your are driving west to it along clogged arteries.

          • March 20th 2012 @ 11:41am
            JZ said | March 20th 2012 @ 11:41am | ! Report

            A monkey could find the stadium its that easies

      • March 20th 2012 @ 12:54am
        Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 20th 2012 @ 12:54am | ! Report

        If the fans of the Sydney-based clubs had to pay the amount that the supporters of the Broncos and Titans pay then it would be rare for a Sydney team to crack the 10,000 mark!

        Don’t let facts get in the way of your anti-Queensland rant.

      • March 20th 2012 @ 1:19am
        Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 20th 2012 @ 1:19am | ! Report


        You should try travelling along the M3/M1 on a Friday evening. Or along Logan Rd on a Friday evening. I recall sitting in 20 to 30 minutes of traffic just off Garden City a couple of years ago. Similar story when travelling along the M3. This happens pretty much every weekday.

        I get the train to Robina to watch my team, the Cowboys, play the Titans. That’s the only game I go to. I won’t pay $40 on a ticket for an NRL game that does not involve the Cowboys.It takes ages to get to Robina from Logan via the train.

        • March 20th 2012 @ 9:02am
          Fivehole said | March 20th 2012 @ 9:02am | ! Report

          Agree the trains are not the best around SEQ. But 20-30mins vehicle traffic, whilst not ideal, would be a nice change of pace from some of Sydney’s congestion. After driving on the highways around SEQ, i was gobsmacked at how much better it was.

          Fair enough call on the $40, it is too much for a General Admission ticket

          • March 20th 2012 @ 11:43am
            JZ said | March 20th 2012 @ 11:43am | ! Report

            Really its $40 these days wow what a joke way over priced

          • March 21st 2012 @ 1:44am
            Queensland's game is rugby league said | March 21st 2012 @ 1:44am | ! Report

            The ticket I bought was for the main grandstand, so it was a good seat, but I had to pay $40 or $50 for it. And that was on concession. I don’t know how fans who don’t have a concession card make ends meet.

            Traffic is a sign of poor planning by the government.

    • March 19th 2012 @ 10:46am
      Ken said | March 19th 2012 @ 10:46am | ! Report

      Agree with most of your article but think you’re being a bit harsh on Bailey. Watching him the other day I was just thinking how good he was still going in an outclassed team. Still makes good metres without ever taking the easy option, always going into the teeth of the defence (which is almost never on the back foot against the Titans). He looks 50 but he’s only 31 or so and still playing well, I wouldn’t retire him on age alone.

      Prince is another story, for a guy who was a consistently top-class half for many seasons to drop to mediocrity so fast has been a bit sad to watch.

      Are the Titans really on the nose on the GC? Their crowds seemed to be dropping dramatically last year even before it became obvious they were cellar dwellars. I’ve heard that ticket prices are fairly high and transport is poor for the stadium but these sound like excuses, they were doing OK up until 2010 (which was a long time after the honeymoon period should have ended). Personally I quite like the idea of the free tickets if they lose promotion, although it would probably go better for a team with a better winning record. For the Titans at the moment it just sounds like the butt of a joke.

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        March 19th 2012 @ 1:36pm
        Curtis Woodward said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

        Bailey isn’t done .. yet .. but a decision needs to be made before we are talking about him the same way as we are with Prince

    • March 19th 2012 @ 11:08am
      Brett said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:08am | ! Report

      For me it’s the game at the moment. I live on the gold coast but support the knights so I used to go to the titans games to get my fix but it’s so one dimensional and the standard of a lot of the teams seems so poor. Ticket prices are another issue.

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    • March 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm
      turbodewd said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm | ! Report

      Free tickets is a very bad idea. It tells the people that the Titans arent worth paying for. You dont want to teach customers this. Half price tickets…maybe.

      Are the Titans actually engaging the community? Visiting schools? Running BBQs for fund raisers? Do other fundraising activities? They need to be seen engaging the community, if they do then the fans will gladly return the favor.

      So many people in footballing circles think football is actually about football only – it isnt. Its probably more to do with non-footballing things. And will someone pls ask the Titans to stop changing their jersey?

      If you give some kids some textas and ask them to draw the Essendon Bombers jersey and the Titans one…you can bet which one they manage to draw!

      • March 19th 2012 @ 12:48pm
        oikee said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:48pm | ! Report

        Most kids “Remember the Titans”, not the Bombers.
        The Titans are doing fine, they do all the ground work and the only reason they are getting publicity is for unpaid depts. The Titans wont be going anywhere anytime soon, they are staying put. They have feeder clubs and juniors to look after, once they get their house in order they will be in much better shape, plus if Ipswich (Brisbane) get another team, this will be even better for the Titans, they will become the middle brother, not little Brother.
        The coast people who think not supporting this club helps, had better think again. You only get things done by helping not hindering. I read somewhere that fans wont support while Seale is in charge. ? They might as well sign up for the Suns because Seale is not going anywhere.
        Your either a supporter or your not, the in-betweens is a bridge in brisbane, you might as well jump off it, nobody will miss you.
        Now get out their, put up or shut-up. Not you Turbo, i am talking about people who cant take losing, who cant go through the tough times, the hard yards. Go and play rugby league, it will teach you all this at a early age.

        • March 19th 2012 @ 3:48pm
          Sam el Perro said | March 19th 2012 @ 3:48pm | ! Report


          Maybe you mean the Go Between bridge??

        • March 20th 2012 @ 11:48am
          JZ said | March 20th 2012 @ 11:48am | ! Report

          If people only support a team when they are winning should be ashamed to go to a game, not going to a game when your team needs you the most is shame full , but $40 a ticket is a bit much,

      • March 19th 2012 @ 4:05pm
        Ken said | March 19th 2012 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

        ‘Are the Titans actually engaging the community? Visiting schools? Running BBQs for fund raisers? Do other fundraising activities? They need to be seen engaging the community, if they do then the fans will gladly return the favor.’

        I’m not a local and don’t know the answer to this but I agree it seems to be the problem. For a team that originally appeared to be a bright new spark in terms of community involvement they appear to have dropped the ball completely in this area.

        ‘Free tickets is a very bad idea. It tells the people that the Titans arent worth paying for. You dont want to teach customers this. Half price tickets…maybe.’

        I agree to a point – straight-out free tickets are a bad idea for the reasons that you put out. I quite like the ‘free ticket to next game if we lose’ concept though, especially when they’re not in any danger of selling out games. These are already paying customers who have come along and possibly had a disappointing day – make sure they come back, they’ll still spend money on food and maybe some merchandise. They need to get people in the habit of coming to their games again. The only danger is if they go on to lose 5 games in a row it’s going to become a bad joke.

        • March 19th 2012 @ 5:11pm
          Jaceman said | March 19th 2012 @ 5:11pm | ! Report

          I cant imagine that the Titans have dropped the ball on community involvement – with other codes coming in they probably stepped it up if anything but no matter how much you do the punters always want more and say you are not doing enough…

    • March 19th 2012 @ 12:18pm
      Jaceman said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:18pm | ! Report

      Rothfield in todays Tele calims they are in deep trouble but he may just be playing the News Ltd card (his employer) who dont want another team S-E Qld to compete with their profitable Broncos who hold the whip hand in any decisions made by the NRL – Independent Commision or not. His solution witha new S-E qld team playing 6 games in the GC sound like an off the top of the head dream which is about as palatable as playing games in PNG…Just what has happened in prime RL territory…..

      • March 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm
        oikee said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm | ! Report

        You do realise he is a Shark’s fan. That gives it away straight off i thought. This guy cant write stories for the Courier mail queensland, because everyone thinks he is a dill, and they be right.

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