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    Queensland Reds halfback Will Genia has today announced he will remain with the Queensland Reds for the next three seasons, just days after the Reds announced he was leaving to join the Western Force.

    In a press conference at 11am today, Genia said he had changed his mind about leaving the Reds a number of times and ‘scary thoughts’ about leaving the Reds made up his mind following the weekend’s win again the Blues.

    Genia and Reds coach Ewen McKenzie held a press conference at 11am today where the dramatic u-turn was announced.

    “I always maintained a strong desire to stay in Queensland with the Reds, however I also received offers from both here in Australia and from overseas and I considered my options,” Genia said.

    “(Coach) Ewen (McKenzie) asked me after the game on Friday whether I was going to be staying with the Reds and I told him I was going to join the Western Force.

    “When I considered my options over the weekend, I realised it didn’t really sit well with me and my heart was in Queensland and that’s where I want to play my rugby.”

    It was speculated last week that Genia had sought over $400,000 a season from the Reds, not including top-up from the Australian Rugby Union.

    I has been reported that The Force had offered Genia a massive $600,000 per season to head west.

    Genia mentioned in the conference that his mate David Pocock would be disappointed with the announcement. Attention now shifts to the future of Pocock at the Force, with his contract still in negotiations and the prospects of Genia joining him at the franchise now ended.

    QRU Media Release in full: Genia recommits to Queensland Rugby

    Champion halfback and St.George Queensland Reds vice-captain Will Genia has recommitted to Queensland Rugby until the end of season 2015, subject to ARU protocols.

    Genia confirmed his desire to remain with the Reds after revisiting earlier discussions with CEO Jim Carmichael, Chairman Rod McCall and Head Coach Ewen McKenzie on Sunday afternoon and expressing his strong desire to remain in Queensland.

    The 24-year-old initially indicated to coach Ewen McKenzie on Friday night following the Blues victory that he would be leaving his foundation Super Rugby club at the end of the 2012 – but has since rescinded any thought of moving on from the Reds.

    Genia put pen to paper this morning and will remain in Queensland with the Reds.

    “I always maintained a strong desire to stay in Queensland with the Reds, however I also received offers from both here in Australia and from overseas, and I considered my options,” Genia said.

    “Ewen asked me after the game on Friday whether I was going to be staying with the Reds and I told him I was going to join the Western Force at the end of the season.

    “But when I considered my options over the weekend I realised it really didn’t sit well with me and my heart was in Queensland and that’s where I want to play my Rugby.”

    Queensland Rugby CEO Jim Carmichael said Genia’s decision to remain at the Reds was significant to the organisation’s ongoing success.

    “I believe that Queensland Rugby made the best, fiscally responsible offer that we could to keep Will in Queensland, and ultimately when he was faced with a final decision over the weekend, Will agreed that the Reds is the best place for him to be for his immediate and long term rugby future,” Mr Carmichael said.

    “Will has made a rugby-based decision to remain in Queensland for significantly less money and an offer which we feel will allow us to build a highly competitive roster subject to ARU salary cap protocols – which are largely still to be determined.”

    Queensland coach Ewen McKenzie said he was pleased to retain the services of the Wallaby halfback.

    “It was disappointing to have to come to terms with Will leaving us and possibly playing against the Reds in 2013, however, we’re pleased he’s decided to choose what’s best for his Rugby future by staying in Queensland,” McKenzie said.

    “He’s an integral player in our side, our vice-captain and I’m sure all Reds members and fans will be thrilled he has recommitted through to the end of 2015.

    “In the past six months, Digby Ioane, and the Faingaa Twins and now Will have all agreed to stay on at the Reds, not for the best price but for what we offer here in terms of the environment, culture and elite Rugby program.”

    Genia is in his sixth Super Rugby campaign with the Reds and has played every minute of the 2012 season since scoring the Reds’ Super Rugby title winning try in the 2011 final at Suncorp Stadium.

    He captained the Reds in the absence of regular skipper James Horwill for almost the entire 2010 season and won consecutive Pilecki Medals for the Queensland Reds Players’ Player of the Year in 2010 and 2011.

    Genia has been an integral player and on-field leader for the Reds side since being plucked out of the U19 Queensland Colts competition to make his Super Rugby debut against the Hurricanes back in 2007.

    Will Genia
    Height: 174cm
    Weight: 85kg
    Date of Birth: 17/01/1988
    Place of Birth: Papua New Guinea
    Senior Club: Norths

    Queensland Caps: 67
    Queensland Points: 58
    Queensland Debut: 2006 v Japan

    Super Rugby Caps: 66
    Super Rugby Points: 58
    Super Rugby Debut: 2007 v Hurricanes

    Test Caps: 33
    Test Points: 25
    Test Debut: 2009 v All Blacks

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    • April 30th 2012 @ 11:23am
      ed from perth said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:23am | ! Report

      When are the Force going to get a break…

      • Columnist

        April 30th 2012 @ 11:37am
        Brett McKay said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:37am | ! Report

        Saturday afternoon, they thought….

        • April 30th 2012 @ 11:40am
          kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:40am | ! Report

          Brett oddly this may not work out so badly for the Force, as they will now be desperate to make up for this farce (after the Graham one) by acquiring some other big players, and they will presumaby have 600,000 extra dollars to do it. Organisations that have bcome moribund often need some shocks to stir them into life, as was seen in the case of the Reds.

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            April 30th 2012 @ 11:56am
            Brett McKay said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:56am | ! Report

            I think we were seeing that on Sat, KPM. The Force landing Genia would’ve made keeping Pocock and finding a decent 10 (and a coach) a whole lot easier. Now they might have a battle keeping Pocock, and everything else unravels.

            I wouldn’t wear red near the RugbyWA offices for the time being, they’d be mightily miffed currently…

            • Roar Guru

              April 30th 2012 @ 12:04pm
              Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

              I don’t understand why RugbyWA should be miffed at the QRU. The Tim Horan leak apparently came from WA, . RugbyWA was trying to be a bit too clever here and it backfired.

              • Columnist

                April 30th 2012 @ 12:06pm
                Brett McKay said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:06pm | ! Report

                Jigs, I suspect we’ll never know…

              • April 30th 2012 @ 11:06pm
                El Gamba said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:06pm | ! Report

                “The Tim Horan leak apparently came from WA”.

                Ridiculous. The Tim Horan leak was the Tim Horan leak! A lot of respect was lost for him the way the “impartial commentator” laid it on so thick.

              • Roar Guru

                May 1st 2012 @ 3:17am
                Jiggles said | May 1st 2012 @ 3:17am | ! Report

                El – Horan is my favourite all time Wallaby, he has a great rugby mind. However I think its a bit of a stretch to say he concocted this very plan, i.e. leaking Genia was signing with the Force to ultimately get him to accept less money back at the reds, all by himself. With all due respect to the great inside centre, he just isn’t that smart.

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              April 30th 2012 @ 12:05pm
              Hoy said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

              Plus those of us that wear Reds gear haven’t forgiven the Force for what they did to us when they started either.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 12:27pm
                WQ said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:27pm | ! Report

                Hoy, the Force have no choice but to pick the eyes out of the QLD and NSW nurseries because they quite simply don’t have one!

              • April 30th 2012 @ 7:20pm
                sheek said | April 30th 2012 @ 7:20pm | ! Report


                I agree with WQ here. The Force had no choice, they had to get players somehow, & there were plenty of Queenslanders back in 2005 happy to leave a dysfunctional organisation.

                The ARU didn’t help. They basically said to the Force – “We’ve given you your opportunity, now you can sink or swim”. An incredibly indifferent attitude from the ARU.

                If the ARU had any brains back then, they would have forced (if it came to that) the Tahs, Reds & Brumbies & to give up an equal number of players, & make the transition of the introduction of the Force an orderly one.

                This didn’t happen. Don’t blame the Force, blame the ARU…..

            • April 30th 2012 @ 12:07pm
              kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:07pm | ! Report

              Brett Pocock seems to be now the key to the whole future of the Reds. If he stays, the Force will not only have the non-Genia cash to get players but a figurehead to attract them. If he goes then it will all depend on the coach (Nick Mallett has apparently inquired about this and I’m sure either he or Chieka would be great. Soon Australia could be pantheon of the world’s best coaches).

              In a way I’m not sure Genia going to the Force would have helped them quite as much as one might think. The Rebels got some big names and look where it got them. I’m not sure buying in big names, unless it’s a coach, is the way teams are revolutionised. Rather it is more often players LEAVING and culture change from WITHIN that turns them into a formidable…force.

              • Roar Guru

                April 30th 2012 @ 12:11pm
                Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:11pm | ! Report

                ” I’m not sure buying in big names, unless it’s a coach, is the way teams are revolutionised.”

                And you post on here ad nauseum about how Australia just needs to sign Inglis, Slater, Idriss etc.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 12:15pm
                Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

                pwned… lovely post Jiggles

              • April 30th 2012 @ 12:24pm
                kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:24pm | ! Report

                Quite right Jiggles, those players might fill holes in and perfect teams that are culturally strong and already have some good players.

                But in a moribund, rudderless organisation a more profound kind of revolution is needed to alter the entire culture, and dramatic actions such as Barnes walking out on the Reds are often what’s necessary to galvanise the governing bodies to change.

              • Roar Guru

                April 30th 2012 @ 12:29pm
                Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:29pm | ! Report

                “those players might fill holes in and perfect teams that are culturally strong and already have some good players.”

                What so going after some one like Jared Waerea-Hargreaves who has publicly stated he is only comfortable playing for New Zealand fits into this?

                Its ok KPM, don’t try and justify yourself as I already think 99% of what you post is BS anyway.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm
                kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm | ! Report

                I normally wouldn’t justify myself to someone as rude as you but obviously I mean an Australian if they’re going to play for Australia.

              • Roar Guru

                April 30th 2012 @ 12:52pm
                Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:52pm | ! Report

                Then why do you continue to push Jared Waerea-Hargreaves when he clearly considers himself a New Zealander.

                Additionally you know come out and state a coach is the fundamental component in building a successful culture (Not star league players you used to tout who have 0% interest in wearing a gold jersey), yet you have been trying to diminish McKenzie and what he has done with the Reds over the past 3 years with some inconsistant conspiracy theory.

                You posts are completely and utterly contradictory.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm
                Chris said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm | ! Report

                I don’t usually agree with anything KPM writes, but frankly Jiggles you are just downright rude and impolite. Pull your head in.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 1:18pm
                Lippy said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

                100% agree with you Chris and KPM how very rude of you Jiggles and you have the audacity to hen pick at me and my posting style

              • Roar Guru

                April 30th 2012 @ 1:27pm
                Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:27pm | ! Report

                I’m sorry Chris but when someone rights contradictory twaddle 99% of the timeI find it rather frustrating. Especially when said comments are all speculative, and he really doesn’t understand what he is typing about.

              • April 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm
                jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm | ! Report

                Can Nick Mallett coach the Tahs instead?

              • April 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm
                Riccardo said | April 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm | ! Report

                Harsh Jiggs.

                KPM means well and is entitled to his musings.

                I’ve felt your acerbic tongue too but it learned me.

                I was ready to sound off at you over some correction but I did some research and dammit if you weren’t on the money.

                Play nice tho…

              • Roar Guru

                April 30th 2012 @ 3:15pm
                B-Rock said | April 30th 2012 @ 3:15pm | ! Report

                Jiggles – If you dont like what someone writes just dont read it. There is no need to get aggressive.

                KPMs opinion is just as important as yours or mine. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree with certain posters

              • April 30th 2012 @ 6:57pm
                darwin stubby said | April 30th 2012 @ 6:57pm | ! Report

                yeah – but Jigs is right though despite how he says it

              • May 1st 2012 @ 12:19am
                Lorry said | May 1st 2012 @ 12:19am | ! Report

                speaking of rudeness, where’s KOTG?!

      • April 30th 2012 @ 11:45am
        Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:45am | ! Report

        The Force will get a break when they start using the local rugby scene for more than publicity. The entire team has been built on promises of a lot of money (ask Giteau how those promises were fulfilled) and pillaging the Qld and NSW academies (or Super Rugby teams) … that doesn’t really lend itself to a decent culture.
        I was an inaurgural member of the Force and again for their second season as I was living in Perth at the time and I still consider that I would have gotten more out of that money if I’d burnt it (generate some heat, minor pleasure at playing with fire … more exciting than the Western Farce).

    • April 30th 2012 @ 11:26am
      The Bone said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:26am | ! Report

      Very, well played out by Genia and his manager. He would have surley got a 3rd party deal over the weekend and now gets to stay in Brisbane

      • Roar Guru

        April 30th 2012 @ 3:50pm
        B-Rock said | April 30th 2012 @ 3:50pm | ! Report

        Is that true? If so it would be well played by Genia & Co

        I was thinking the QRU came out ahead on this one as they called his bluff and were prepared to see him go at that price. IMO Genia was never leaving the Reds, he used the Force to attempt to drive up the asking price, the Reds didnt bite so he had to back out of the Force deal and lose a fair amount of respect in the process.

        If you take Genias comments at face value, if QLD didnt beat the blues on Friday, he would now be headed to WA next year? If so that is a pretty important win for the Reds.

        I feel for the Force, they cant get high profile wallabies to come across even when they offer 50% more! In the corporate world, any company that uncompetitive for talent would nevr be able to survive.

        Also, there is no way Genia (or anyone else) is worth $600K to a Super Rugby franchise (can’t monetise his skills to generate the revenue to justify this amount). $300K – $400K sounds about right to me.

        • April 30th 2012 @ 7:55pm
          The Bone said | April 30th 2012 @ 7:55pm | ! Report

          He is worth 600k if that meant keeping David Pocock. Pocock is a guy they would have kicked the tin out of his own money.
          Think about it, he told Ewen afterthe game that he was going to the Force. (He came out and said he changed his mind after the win) No he didnt, he told Ewen he was going West after the win. He changed his mind after some Rich QLDs rang up the REDS or his manager and asked what it would taketo get his to stay and if he had signed

    • April 30th 2012 @ 11:35am
      redsnut said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:35am | ! Report

      So sad that he’s not getting a pay rise that he was after, so he had no option but to stay if he wanted to play in Aus.

      Still, he does have to look after himself when it all comes down to it.

      It’s just a pity that he had to start all this circus in the first place.

    • April 30th 2012 @ 11:48am
      WQ said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:48am | ! Report

      What is going on at the Reds?

    • April 30th 2012 @ 11:48am
      Lippy said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:48am | ! Report

      it will be interesting to know what sweetners he was offered that swayed him at the 12th hour to stay in QLD.

      • April 30th 2012 @ 12:09pm
        Harry said | April 30th 2012 @ 12:09pm | ! Report

        Probably watched a tape of the Stormers v Force game and realised what he’d be joining. If he thinks he’s got it tough now having to do all the work at the Reds without Quade and until last week Digby, he’d have realised it would be like that Every Game at the Force.

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          April 30th 2012 @ 1:03pm
          sittingbison said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:03pm | ! Report

          maybe he watched a late night re-run of the Force-Reds game, or the Bulls-Reds game, and realised what he was leaving %)

    • Columnist

      April 30th 2012 @ 11:49am
      Ryan O'Connell said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:49am | ! Report


      This is stunning news!

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