Sticky’s kiss of death for Parramatta halves

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    If history is anything to go by, Parramatta's halves should be fearing the impending arrival of Ricky Stuart

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    Ricky Stuart’s tenure as coach of the Parramatta Eels has officially begun with sessions held this week in Sydney’s golden west. A new era is here for the Eels and their fans.

    But if history is anything to go by, Chris Sandow should be shaking in his boots.

    The long line of playmakers that have fallen by the wayside under Stuart is scary. Whether it be via an early release, poor off-field behaviour or simply not getting along.

    There is something awfully shady about Stuart and his history with halfbacks.

    From his time at the Sydney Roosters and the Cronulla Sharks, things never seem to work out for the sixes and sevens.

    Things had been prickly for a long time between Stuart and then Cronulla Sharks captain Brett Kimmorley when Ricky joined the Sharkies back in 2007.

    Despite having won a premiership with the Melbourne Storm and leading Cronulla to the grand final qualifier in 2008 under Stuart, Kimmorley was shown the door in favour of Trent Barrett.

    Stuart tried to explain himself in an article for The Telegraph back in 2009.

    “I learnt that Kimmorley was not a big-match player – not the kind who can get you over the line in big games, like Andrew Johns or Darren Lockyer. And I knew that when I later moved to Cronulla,” Stuart said.

    “We tried our best to work together, but it didn’t work.”

    Remember that these were successful clubs. The Roosters had won a premiership under Ricky in 2002 and the Sharks had placed equal first in 2008.

    Yet he was still sacking guys. From Brett Kimmorley to Luke Dorn. It simply doesn’t matter who you are.

    What does Stuart deep down really think of Sandow and the Eels than?

    Sandow is on a huge contract and was miserable this season for his new club. The guy is missing plenty of things that Ricky requires.

    The diminutive halfback has to start from scratch and play for Ricky or risk being booted out the backdoor.

    Stephen Kearney tried to change him and failed. How is the new coach going to do it?

    Stuart is probably best just punting him altogether and finding someone else.

    Even after he has left a club, his fingerprints are there for all to see.

    After being sacked from the Sydney Roosters at the end of 2006, bad things continued to happen at Bondi.

    Craig Wing quickly turned his back on the club to join rivals South Sydney and Brett Finch asked for a release to join the Eels. Jamie Soward was sacked in 2007 after 22 games too.

    Sharks’ halves were not safe even after Stuart had stood down in 2010.

    Scott Porter was released from the club in 2011 after 22 games and Albert Kelly has since been given the flick from both the Sharks and the Newcastle Knights.

    “I am really looking forward to it [training],” Ben Roberts told The Sunday Telegraph on the weekend.

    “It will give us a taste of what life will be like under Ricky and allow us to think about that over the off-season and prepare.

    “We didn’t have a great season and we want to do everything we can to turn it around. I honestly think we did pretty well towards the end of the season and we stuck together as a group.

    “We want to make amends for the season and we are looking forward to getting stuck into it with Sticky.”

    Don’t get too comfortable, Ben. You’re on the chopping block too.

    Playmakers under Stuart: Roosters 2002-2006

    Paul Green 2002: Injured knee round one and did not return at the Roosters
    Justin Holbrook 2002: four games and never seen again
    Sam Obst 2002: seven games over two years before leaving for the UK
    Craig Wing 2002-2007: Returned to Souths in 2007
    Brett Finch 2003-2007: Asked for a release to join Parramatta
    Luke Dorn 2004: 1 game before leaving for the UK
    Brett Firman 2005: Released after four games to join North Queensland
    Jamie Soward 2005-2007: 22 games before being released
    Josh Lewis 2006: 12 games before being released

    Sharks 2007-2010
    Adam Dykes 2007: One year under Stuart before leaving for the UK
    Brett Kimmorley 2007-2008: Left for the Bulldogs after plenty of issues with Stuart
    Brett Seymour 2007-2009: Sacked after a string of alcohol fuelled incidents
    Anthony Watts 2007: Five games before being released for disciplinary reasons
    Blake Green 2008-2009: Joined the Bulldogs after only 19 games
    Brett Kearney 2008-2009: Suffered injury round one 2009 before leaving for the UK
    Trent Barrett 2009-2010: Retired in 2010 despite pleas from the Sharks to play on
    Scott Porter 2009-2010: Released in 2011 after 22 games
    Albert Kelly 2010: Released from both the Sharks and the Knights
    Tim Smith 2010: Axed to NSW Cup shortly after signing

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    • Roar Guru

      September 13th 2012 @ 7:37am
      steve b said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:37am | ! Report

      Stuart will have some influence in who he wants and who he dosen’t,,,, but he wont have total conrtrol at the Eels they made that mistake with Kearney ,so to say he is going on a sacking spree if he dosen’t like the player will not happen without a majority decision from the Parra board ..And if anyone needs a rocket under their arse it’s Sandow and if Sticky can get him going then the rest will follow.. i have read a lot of negative from Journo’s and so called journo’s on the appointment of Ricky to Parra but former players and some current i have talked to say positive things about the guy ,So i guess its a wait and see i think he will be good for the club as due most Parra supporters …..

      • Roar Guru

        September 13th 2012 @ 11:41am
        Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:41am | ! Report

        What happens if Sandow doesnt fire again ?

        • Roar Guru

          September 13th 2012 @ 1:33pm
          steve b said | September 13th 2012 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

          As i said if he dosen’t fire it will be a club decision to boot him not just Stuart !!

          • March 10th 2013 @ 10:39pm
            paul said | March 10th 2013 @ 10:39pm | ! Report

            I disagree i think if sandow doesnt fire its cause of stuart he will only b able to play stuarts game not his own ,cant believe parra got stuart he is the most unsuccesfulcoach altime his taken clubs from grand final 1 year to wooden spoon the next lookat roosters sharks soo as he left they made the 8 he also lost us the most consecutive origins in history and our first world cup in decades ,bad decision

    • September 13th 2012 @ 7:52am
      hyland shark said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:52am | ! Report

      this story smells of phil gould

      • Roar Guru

        September 13th 2012 @ 10:27am
        Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:27am | ! Report

        I dont smell anything like Gus ha

        • September 13th 2012 @ 11:59am
          hyland shark said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:59am | ! Report

          il take your word for it Curtis and i cant see sandow lasting to mid 2012 either ,unless he turns him into a dummy half

          • Roar Guru

            September 13th 2012 @ 12:03pm
            Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

            Reaching there pal. Any coach who puts Sandow at hooker should be executed.

            • September 13th 2012 @ 6:04pm
              JZ said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:04pm | ! Report

              another Preston Campbell i feel

    • September 13th 2012 @ 8:20am
      B.A Sports said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:20am | ! Report

      There are people out there who say Stuart isn’t a good coach, but looking at your list it explains more the reasons why Stuart hasn’t had alot of premiership success more than it does Stuart’s inability to coach a half. Alot of ordinary players and over-hyped juniors on that list.

      • Roar Guru

        September 13th 2012 @ 9:26am
        all7days said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:26am | ! Report

        Those same people may also point to his world cup loss and his origin losses

        • Roar Guru

          September 13th 2012 @ 11:47am
          Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:47am | ! Report

          And the fact he was fired from the Roosters and quit the Sharks

          • September 13th 2012 @ 11:58am
            JZ said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:58am | ! Report

            Bingo !

          • September 13th 2012 @ 2:43pm
            beyond the stump said | September 13th 2012 @ 2:43pm | ! Report

            And it was only after Stuart touched the NSW team that they went on their longest losing streak!!!

      • March 10th 2013 @ 10:43pm
        paul said | March 10th 2013 @ 10:43pm | ! Report

        Stuarts a bad coach come on wooden spoon cronulla next year made the 8 wooden spoon roosters, then most consecutive origin loses then losing our first world cup in decades ,not coincidence

    • September 13th 2012 @ 8:20am
      Andy said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:20am | ! Report

      Sandow along with the whole Parramatta squad will be shaking in their boots. At the moment they have an ingrained losing culture at the club. If i was the coach coming in i would have a clean out, get rid of all the old players and under-performing ones too. Then i would look to the western Sydney and QLD junior Systems as well as import the best players from England.

      • September 13th 2012 @ 11:56am
        JZ said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:56am | ! Report

        Ricky is the losing culture, he said the same thing about john langs coaching at the sharks at the start of the same year Penrith won the GF,

        • Roar Guru

          September 13th 2012 @ 11:57am
          Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:57am | ! Report

          He should bag out Laurie Daley than

          • September 13th 2012 @ 12:01pm
            JZ said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

            whys that ?

            • Roar Guru

              September 13th 2012 @ 12:03pm
              Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

              Blues might win an Origin series

              • September 13th 2012 @ 12:14pm
                JZ said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:14pm | ! Report

                Hahaha good call

    • September 13th 2012 @ 11:03am
      marayong tiger said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:03am | ! Report

      Parra,s like the Tigers – No halfback No fullback. Will not go anywhere until these spots are filled with QUALITY PLAYERS

      • Roar Guru

        September 13th 2012 @ 11:37am
        Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:37am | ! Report

        Agreed. Moltzen and Marshall are passengers these days at WT.

      • September 13th 2012 @ 3:03pm
        LRR said | September 13th 2012 @ 3:03pm | ! Report

        A lot of teams would be quite happy with a Hayne/Sandow combination.

        If Parra isn’t they should look at moving them on because these is a third of their cap!

      • Roar Rookie

        September 13th 2012 @ 6:40pm
        Damn Straight said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:40pm | ! Report

        Hayne not a quality fullback? That’s ridiculous. Moltzen isn’t fit to wipe Haynes ***hole, so that comparison is a moot point. Now in saying that, the work ethic of Hayne really sucks. But if he snapped out of that gen-y work ethic and worked as hard as Benny Barba has this year, he would be on par with Barba. No one can argue that Hayne is not one of the most talented, naturally gifted players in the NRL(check his CVG rankings when he is fit and not playing 5/8), in my opinion and the opinion of plenty of other experts and their analysis(not saying I am an expert by the way).

        Keep in mind the dragons had the best defence in the NRL that year in the regular season.

        • Roar Rookie

          September 13th 2012 @ 6:51pm
          Damn Straight said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:51pm | ! Report

          That’s just one example of his freakish talent…whilst he hasn’t been able to consistently reproduce that in the last few seasons, I think that is more of a reflection on how lazy the guy is…not his talent. I’m hoping Ricky can get something out of the guy that Steve Kearney couldn’t. Jarryd needs a mentor who isn’t afraid to administer some ‘tough love’ and drop him down to NSW Cup when he isn’t working hard and when he is just a passenger coasting off his former glories. I know he’s still got it in him, he just needs a tough, but fair mentor.
          So many Hayne haters out there crap on about how sh*te he is, but Australians are known for enjoying the chopping down of tall poppies.

          • September 13th 2012 @ 7:47pm
            Andy said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:47pm | ! Report

            If Hayne was working under Hasler he could be a star, instead he will continue to have mediocre defense.

    • September 13th 2012 @ 11:04am
      cos789 said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:04am | ! Report

      He will somehow find a way to fill every position in the squad with second rowers.

      Its his go.

      • Roar Guru

        September 13th 2012 @ 11:38am
        Curtis Woodward said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:38am | ! Report

        Its been shown at the Dragons you cant have a morbid attack in the NRL anymore and still expect to win games of footy. They need creativity, not second rowers.

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