Success of the West allows fans’ dreams to wander

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    The rapid development of the Western Sydney Wanderers is unparalleled in the Australian sporting context.

    Encroached firmly in the A-League’s top four, the question now beckons: can the Wanderers really challenge for the title?

    As it stands now few would dare to bet against them – and with valid reasoning.

    The Wanderers have consistently posted home crowd attendances higher than that of the rival codes sharing the sporting heartland that is Sydney’s west.

    Well-established teams, not least the Parramatta Eels and the Penrith Panthers in the NRL, average home attendances both lower than that of the new boys.

    The general interest as well as week-in week-out quality of football has significantly improved since the side’s inception.

    The measure of such a rise is evident for all to see with global kit supplier Nike (who also are the kit sponsor of Manchester United and Arsenal) unable to keep up with the demand for supporter apparel.

    Despite this the on-field journey towards an A-League title (albeit in a maiden year) becomes increasingly realistic and possible as the season progresses.

    Claiming the scalp of then fifth-placed Melbourne Heart outfit last week, while playing a man down for 83 of 90 minutes, clearly assured fans that anything is possible regardless of their recent initiation into the competition.

    The Wanderers will today take on Adelaide United, who too have a lot to prove following the resignation of coach John Kosmina midweek.

    A win away from home against the Reds will add further credentials towards a debut-season championship and prove once more they can match it with the top sides come the season’s climax.

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    • February 3rd 2013 @ 9:08am
      TC said | February 3rd 2013 @ 9:08am | ! Report

      2nd para should say “ensconced” not “encroached”

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 11:26pm
        Ahem said | February 3rd 2013 @ 11:26pm | ! Report

        “The rapid development of the Western Sydney Wanderers is unparalleled in the Australian sporting context.”

        For soccer I assume?

        Ever heard of the West Coast Eagles and Adelaide Crows, these clubs are that successful they get stadiums built.

        As always soccer is going to be HUGE, blah blah.

        Whatever became of Northern Spirit?

        • February 4th 2013 @ 1:06am
          Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:06am | ! Report

          Not sure if the Eagles and Crows were pushing for a minor premiership or very much in contention to reach a Grand Final in their first season.What have the Northern Spirit got to do with anything?

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            February 4th 2013 @ 1:36am
            Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:36am | ! Report

            This constant need for comments that have protruded a defensive barrier towards others respective sports is completely irrelevant. You can not even begin to make comparison for the achievements that eventuated in different sports as there are different elements that will both positively and negatively affect the progression of any footballing codes sides.

            The think that has provided these uneducated and ill thought arguments is the poor effort placed on this article in an effort to appease football fans! Of course people’s chains will yanked when statements such as these follow:

            “The rapid development of the Western Sydney Wanderers is unparalleled in the Australian sporting context.”

            ” The Wanderers have consistently posted home crowd attendances higher than that of the rival codes sharing the sporting heartland that is Sydney’s west.”

            A poor effort in trying to convey a message that aims to glorify achievements thus far, when success is measured not in steps but strides!

            • February 4th 2013 @ 1:46am
              Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:46am | ! Report

              “The rapid development of the Western Sydney Wanderers is unparalleled”-to me on the pitch to have a side very much a chance to win silverware after being in existance for less than a year must be pretty close to unparalleled.IF they win anything it will be a first but lets see.

              “The Wanderers have consistently posted home crowd attendences higher than that of rival codes”-that statement is wrong.

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                February 4th 2013 @ 12:05pm
                Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

                To you on the pitch! Well on the pitch it’s not unparalleled!

                Overall? Maybe but not in terms of the points made within the article

              • February 4th 2013 @ 12:53pm
                Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

                A professional Australian sporting team,who has only exhisted for under a year, has been in the running to win a title in the past?

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                February 4th 2013 @ 1:07pm
                Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

                Melbourne storm 1998, finished 3rd.
                Gold coast united in first season of football 3rd.
                Western Sydney Wanderers… Currently 3rd.

                If they win this year, then unparalleled for sure! I would rate overall success of this season unparalleled both on field and off. But in regards to the content of this article and comments that have eventuated, unparalleled is not my word of choice for this form of discussion. Just for, the mean time.

              • February 4th 2013 @ 1:18pm
                Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:18pm | ! Report

                The WSW are playing both of their major rivals for the Premiers Plate in the MV and CCM away in the next few weeks,MASSIVE games in respect to the Premiers Plate,add to that the dogfight for the last spot in the finals and we’re in for a very exciting finish to the season.Im just bummed my club isn’t really involved in any of it !

        • February 4th 2013 @ 9:49am
          Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:49am | ! Report

          “soccer” does get stadiums built ….

          Spirit were a semi professional team not a pro team.

          Eagles ? Well AFL is played by how many countries ? can i count them on one hand, OH wait, one finger, MY MIDDLE ONE!

          • Roar Guru

            February 4th 2013 @ 12:08pm
            Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:08pm | ! Report


            You may require another finger.

            • February 4th 2013 @ 2:12pm
              Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:12pm | ! Report

              you call that a pro league ? I know high school kids who could beat those guys.

              If i create a sport with a ball and 4 posts and give the ball to a kenyan kid does that mean its a pro sport in kenya too ?

              My damn luck i didint think of this earlier, i could create a world game just by putting an AFL ball in every country. What was i thinking!

              • Roar Guru

                February 4th 2013 @ 2:52pm
                Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:52pm | ! Report

                I don’t call it pro. I just didn’t know what extent you wanted me to go into in regards to professionalism. Still played in another country, is it not?

              • February 4th 2013 @ 3:54pm
                Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:54pm | ! Report

                yeah i know, all sports started in a single country at some point …. you never know, we may even get an american football league happening here …

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      February 3rd 2013 @ 10:38am
      langou said | February 3rd 2013 @ 10:38am | ! Report

      Welcome back TC – good to have you around

      I don’t see how WSW “are unparalleled in the Australian sporting context”.

      There have been plenty of sporting teams around Australia who have had bigger crowds in their first season and WSW are yet to reach the heights of Gold Coast as far as on field success

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 1:26pm
        Reynoldsinski said | February 3rd 2013 @ 1:26pm | ! Report

        Exactly, but we aren’t interested in facts. This is football in Australia, and hyperbole is message that we prefer to deliver.

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        February 3rd 2013 @ 1:36pm
        Fussball ist unser leben said | February 3rd 2013 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

        @ langou

        Are you honestly comparing GCU – a team financed by a billionaire, who had a private jet flying the players overseas for practice matches; to WSW, a team financed with meagre FFA funds & didn’t have a full playing squad 3 months before the season kicked off!??!

        Wow.. some folk just hate to give any credit to the FFA or AUS football.

        • February 3rd 2013 @ 1:53pm
          Reynoldsinski said | February 3rd 2013 @ 1:53pm | ! Report

          So how are they unparalleled then, just because they have had a bit less money? Melbourne Storm finished 3rd in their first season, so what WSW is doing isn’t that remarkable.

          • Roar Guru

            February 3rd 2013 @ 2:11pm
            Fussball ist unser leben said | February 3rd 2013 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

            Weren’t you ALLEGEDLY backpacking across London when MelbStorm played its inaugural season? 😉

            From what I understand, Storm continues to be financed by News Corp, which is one of the biggest corporations in the world & they used cheating tactics to circumvent the salary cap & hire the best RL players in the world.

            • February 3rd 2013 @ 2:34pm
              Reynoldsinski said | February 3rd 2013 @ 2:34pm | ! Report

              I wasn’t, but I’m not sure what my abode has got to do with it. If you think putting a winking face at the end of your sentences makes you look funny and clever, then you are mistaken.

              The author doesn’t allude to the financial factor at all, it is only you that is doing that.

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:10pm
                Punter said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:10pm | ! Report

                Hey’s Johnny again!!! What has the A-League done to you, to get a lover of all sports so upset with every little thing. You really need a cup of tea.

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                February 3rd 2013 @ 3:14pm
                Fussball ist unser leben said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:14pm | ! Report


                I don’t know what industry you’re involved with but, you don’t need a Harvard MBA to understand that …

                …creating a successful entity, with limited resources; is far more attractive than creating a successful operation, using unlimited resources.

                I’m sure, even the kid selling lemonade on the sidewalk understands this basic business concept; but, surprisingly, it eludes you.

            • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:29pm
              Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:29pm | ! Report

              No owner means a drain on the FFA funds and less money for grass roots football… This barnacle club needs to start standing on its own two feet… Why on earth this has not happened yet is a great concern for the FFA..

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 7:31pm
                Sean said | February 3rd 2013 @ 7:31pm | ! Report

                Would it shock you to hear Wanderers are on track to at worse break even this season? Bear in mind the cost of a start up club.
                Record sponsorship signing (NRMA) , record merchandise sales and healthy crowds, coupled with minimal expenditure.

                Stop being a bitter, jealous, short sighted whinger.

                How you can call the club a ‘barnacle’ and wonder why it hasn’t been sold yet (in it’s 1st year after FFA clearly said they want to establish the club and look at selling after 2/3 seasons) shows your lack of knowledge and chip on your shoulder. Let me guess, your either a North Qld or Gold Coast supporter.

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 8:00pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 3rd 2013 @ 8:00pm | ! Report

                SFC supporter…. We have an owner and major sponsorship .. GCU and the Fury don’t exist anymore, or didn’t you know?

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 10:19pm
                Evan Askew said | February 3rd 2013 @ 10:19pm | ! Report

                @ Sean, He was a Gold Coast supporter till they folded and has being a massive critic of the FFA in regards to the Wanderers since.

              • February 4th 2013 @ 9:53am
                Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:53am | ! Report

                Give them a minute or two brother!

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          February 3rd 2013 @ 3:07pm
          langou said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:07pm | ! Report

          I am not taking anything away from WSW but simply pointing out that what they are doing isn’t “unparalleled” in Australia sport. It is not even unparalleled in the A-League. With a salary cap in place, a rich owner cannot buy championships like they can in Europe so Gold Coast’s achievement in its first year deserves to be recognised .

          • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:28pm
            Punter said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:28pm | ! Report

            Read the 4th paragraph, when did GCU get crowds measuring up to other codes in their area?

            They are doing very well in a competition that most expected them to be running last, they did not have Palmer’s money like GCU nor News Ltd backing like Melbourne Storm.
            The are doing this on a shoestring budget (apart from money on Shini Ono) most others were A-league leftovers or players not wanted O/S. You don’t see their players being offered big deals to play overseas like in some of the other high flying clubs.
            They have generated a following after only 6 months in existence (after a couple if very public failings to set up a club in West Sydney) that is very good by A-League standard & also very good in comparison to a couple of expanded AFL clubs like the West Sydney Giants & Gold Coast Suns, not too mention RL clubs in the area with very large histories. This was done with no FTA TV or massive marketing budget that the AFL has.

            I think Ian, you must admit this is pretty special. I’m a SFC & hate them, but even I’m impressed.

            • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:35pm
              Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:35pm | ! Report

              Be careful Punter, WSW supporters want to kill off SFC and you are supporting this with your comments..

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:39pm
                Punter said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:39pm | ! Report

                QSAF, you need to know who the true enemy are & you are starting to shoot at your own men lately because of your anger at the demise of the Gold Coast.

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:44pm
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:44pm | ! Report

                No…. WSW are taking aim at SFC—-are you reading what their supporters have been writing of late? I guess not…

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              February 3rd 2013 @ 4:13pm
              langou said | February 3rd 2013 @ 4:13pm | ! Report

              When you put it like that it does sound pretty impressive.

              Great comment.

              • February 3rd 2013 @ 7:53pm
                Punter said | February 3rd 2013 @ 7:53pm | ! Report

                Thanks Ian. Another win tonight!!! It is a great story.

          • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:32pm
            Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:32pm | ! Report

            Well said…

            • February 4th 2013 @ 9:58am
              Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 9:58am | ! Report

              i know many footballers at other clubs may be jealous of the wanderers, Visconte even said turning up to training alone blew him away.

              As for the AFL guy, why are afl managers, coaches and players watching the team train ?

              Just wondering ….

              • February 4th 2013 @ 10:19am
                Qantas supports Australian Football said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:19am | ! Report

                You are asking me…??? Better get an AFL guy to answer your question, because I have no idea what you’re talking about..

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          February 3rd 2013 @ 4:35pm
          Ryan Selvage said | February 3rd 2013 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

          that was the inferred message.

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          February 4th 2013 @ 12:24am
          Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:24am | ! Report


          Going off the two points you make about GCU and WSW respectively, you say “a team financed by a billionaire, who had a private jet flying the players overseas for practice matches” well he may been a billionaire but besides forking out own money for the teams licence and playing costs what does his billionaire status have anything to do with it, pretty sure he didn’t do much to make them thrive? In regards to a private jet which he owned, why would he pay money for another plane when he could use his? That is called saving money.

          Then you proceed by saying “to WSW, a team financed with meagre FFA funds & didn’t have a full playing squad 3 months before the season kicked off!??!”

          Meagre funds? Who’s paying for Shinji Ono and the whole entire salary cap?
          I thought FFA were.

          So who is denying credit?
          And what did FFA do for GCU? Dumped them on their behind due to poor decision to provide a team in the first place.

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        February 3rd 2013 @ 4:46pm
        Ryan Selvage said | February 3rd 2013 @ 4:46pm | ! Report

        In terms of the speed in which they found their feet – from being granted a license to finding success and working with the resources they have – i would definitely say they are unparalleled.

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          February 4th 2013 @ 1:43am
          Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:43am | ! Report

          Would have been greatly appreciated in the article to prevent meaningless discussion that has no conclusion or end in sight!

          Also would like to ask how you define consistency?

          Because going off my definition, Parramatta win the consistency battle! Whatever battle there was?

      • February 17th 2013 @ 11:35pm
        Dave said | February 17th 2013 @ 11:35pm | ! Report

        Northern Spirit had bigger home crowds than WSW. The question is why are WSW less popular than them, considering soccer was once very popular in Western Sydney.

    • February 3rd 2013 @ 11:38am
      Matt said | February 3rd 2013 @ 11:38am | ! Report

      I have been very impressed with the passion & knowledge of the WSW crowd, you get the feeling they are football fans, not curious sports fans checking out a new product. This is the benefit of putting a team in the sports heartland, instead of trying to convince someone to like your sport. Just shows what a hard gig it is for teams like GWS & Melbourne Storm & if they do get a foothold what an enormous job they have done.

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 5:13pm
        Reynoldsinski said | February 3rd 2013 @ 5:13pm | ! Report

        If they are so passionate about football, then why weren’t they following SFC in previous years? Maybe passionate as long as they don’t have to travel too far.

        • February 4th 2013 @ 10:01am
          Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:01am | ! Report


          wow, your response shows exactly why some people dont follow sydney fc.

          World revolves around the SFS doesnt it ?

    • February 3rd 2013 @ 11:55am
      NUFCMVFC said | February 3rd 2013 @ 11:55am | ! Report

      One thing I think has been good is that from the very first day there was a strong red and black colour to the crowd, which heavily suggests to me as an outsider from melburnian that there was some real keenness there. Have added something to the comp

      Are doing well but one feels they need a Smeltz type out and out striker, interesting to note they have joint conceded the least amount of goals before todays game along with CCM, but have the 3rd lowest goals scored – can certainly tell tehy are coached by a defender

      Is good that their crowds are more than competitive againt NRL teams. Is worth bearing in mind there are a fair fw. Will be fascinated to see what the crowd will be like when they play at Campbelltown stadium. Would be interesting to see if they mixed home venue up a bit mroe next season, play some in penrith for example right on the western edge this way they can really claim to be quite diverse, as Parramatta seems to be in the ‘near west’ to an outsider, geographically anyway (usually midfielder is good at dissecting the inner workings of western sydney to us Victorians)

      Only reason I say this is that usually a team mostly plays at one stadium exclusively for a season, but Melbourne Victory do quite well by splitting their games between Dockalnds/Etihad and Swan Street/AAMI Park, so this raises the question that other teams may be able to do it. Goes against the ethos of a club who own their own stadiums but have to remember A League teams are technically ‘franchises’ so perhaps there is a bit more leeway for it.

      Would be interested to see if Wellington based their matches in other parts of NZ as well, yesterdays match at Eden Park was a good change as Dunedin will be in a few weeks time

      Does anyone well informed know if Western Sydney are big in certain areas of the west, eg big in parramatta and a little less so in other areas of the west, or are they genearlly big all over, because I was curious to know what the impact of being almost exclusively based in Parramatta would be

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 1:59pm
        ciudadmarron said | February 3rd 2013 @ 1:59pm | ! Report

        When the forums were held earlier in the year it was noted that depending on where each forum was held there was a bit of support for the games to be held there – eg, Campbelltown, Penrith. However the overiding opinion in each forum was that Parramatta was the best choice, because of it’s centrality and transport links. The supporters were most vocal about not playing at Homebush also. Parrammatta is the geographic heart of Sydney and to get there from most places in the west is not difficult, especially when you look at average travelling times from all over. And while no information has been released on where members hail from anecdotally there are fans from all over the west – from the blue mountains to the inner west (and beyond); from richmond to the hills; from campbelltown to liverpool and bankstown – they are coming from all over.

        Part of this is the matchday experience at Parramatta. While I’m sure fans from Penrith would love to be able to pop down to a game, on their doorstep, I think most genuine fans would agree that Parramatta, with it’s options before and after games for food etc, and with the developing tradition of the RBB march through its streets, and even more with the way it has become a real home of football this summer and somewhere opponents are not getting much luck from – I think that most genuine fans would agree that Parramatta remains the best option.

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 2:05pm
        ciudadmarron said | February 3rd 2013 @ 2:05pm | ! Report

        Forgot to add, moving some Victory games across town…. by a few kilometres… is a very different proposition to moving Wanderers matches disances that in most places around the world could encompass entire cities.

        Both venues in Melbourne are central and most areas of Melbourne have similar transport links to the city to enable fans to get there with comparative ease no matter where the match is. The same cannot be said of Sydney.

      • February 3rd 2013 @ 3:56pm
        luke said | February 3rd 2013 @ 3:56pm | ! Report

        To answer ur question in short. western sydney is the ethnic base of sydney.. I am of maltese background and grew up around fairfield. now i live in campeltown which is mostly anglo people. so to the answer is yes. inner west is more supportive of wsw and aleauge all together. campbeltown more so than penrith are more nrl based and i doubt will be so interested in wsw. But i still believe just based on the atmosphere it will cause some interest… west is best 😉

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      February 3rd 2013 @ 1:02pm
      Fussball ist unser leben said | February 3rd 2013 @ 1:02pm | ! Report

      Many things impress me about how WSW continues to evolve organically – not by recruiting blokes, who can’t play the sport! – but, the way WSW has gone about embracing ‘old Soccer’ in the region is truly innovative & something for every A-league club to consider.


      “The Wanderers recently signed a number of non-exclusive agreements with seven of their local partner associations, Macarthur, Southern Districts, Bankstown, Granville, Blacktown, Nepean and Gladesville-Hornsby …

      … (and) have allocated each association a bay at Parramatta Stadium to display their own colours and banners, and a corporate box for their own volunteers or fundraising.”


      • February 3rd 2013 @ 4:15pm
        j binnie said | February 3rd 2013 @ 4:15pm | ! Report

        Fuss – Slightly surprised about you impression on how WSW have,or are,”evolving”.
        On the playing side Tony Popovic has proved to be just as shrewd a character as he was in his playing days.especially in the recruitment of his “first ” squad. Not only did Tony take himself overseas for playing and coaching experience but he is obviously a past master at assessing players. The cynics laughed when he signed all these “other club cast offs” not realising that he was amassing a hell of a lot of HAL experience in doing so.That, allied to the quality imports he has added to his “cast off ” army has almost guaanteed, that with the correct man-management etc that comes with team – building, he has almost guaranteed himself a team that will perform at least reasonably well in the competition.
        Off the field there is another battle raging and that is the war to win fans. Looking at their web-site they are making wonderful attempts to win over their potential fan base but in reality it is yet to show that it is bearing fruit for if one cares to remove their ADP affected local derby then their average crowd for the season is remarkably steady averaging around 10,000,The last few games v Victory,CCM & Heart have produced much better figures,around15,000 average so it can be hoped their work is finally getting the results they wish for. Meanwhile a job well done and deserving of some praise. jb

        • February 4th 2013 @ 10:09am
          Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 10:09am | ! Report

          all crowds for wsw that ive seen published by fox sports during games have been over 10k bro

          so ur average aint an average its a guess

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            February 4th 2013 @ 12:01pm
            Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:01pm | ! Report

            Kick ass koala! When commenting on a sporting online forum, educate yourself before you do so!

            Because you’re wrong BRO!

            • February 4th 2013 @ 2:18pm
              Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:18pm | ! Report

              educate me then, because i see more than 10k at most games, atleast half i mean come on the crowds have gotten bigger match after match, the average would have to be beyond 10 …

          • February 4th 2013 @ 1:08pm
            j binnie said | February 4th 2013 @ 1:08pm | ! Report

            KK – here are my ‘guesses” in detail for your approval.
            6/10 v CCM crowd 10,458, 20/10 v Syd FC crowd 19,126, (largest crowd), 2/11 v Heart crowd 8,075, 10/11 v Jets crowd 9,011, 24/11 v Victory crowd 9,614, 9/12 v Roar crowd 6,755, (smallest crowd), 22/12 v Adelaide crowd 9,056, 1/1 v Victory crowd 13,659, 6/1 v CCM crowd 16,387, 26/1 v Heart crowd 14,624.
            My factual “guesses” show 5 “gates “under 10,000,, and 5 “gates ” over 10,000 giving them an average over those 10 games of ———–11,676 Glad to be of service. jb

            • February 4th 2013 @ 2:15pm
              Kickass Koala said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:15pm | ! Report

              no idea where u get the stuff from, i just go off what fox sports sticks up in the top right corner during each match … if fox stuff it up, god help us all!

              • Roar Guru

                February 4th 2013 @ 2:48pm
                Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 2:48pm | ! Report

                Fox don’t stuff it up, just you!

       you’ll find what you seek there!

              • February 4th 2013 @ 3:18pm
                j binnie said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:18pm | ! Report

                KK – May God come down and help us all ASAP.
                If you want, ask my mates Midfielder or Kellett 1992,they will supply you with numerous web sites where you can get such information. JUST NOTICED KELLETT HAS ALREADY DONE SO. jb

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                February 4th 2013 @ 3:41pm
                Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 3:41pm | ! Report

                Haha, where is the like button?

                Damn it, not Facebook!

                +1 to that Jb.

    • February 3rd 2013 @ 2:57pm
      Johnno said | February 3rd 2013 @ 2:57pm | ! Report

      The Brisbane Broncos entry into the NRL, in 1988 is the last time, I felt so much energy for a sports teams in OZ. The West Sydney Wanderer’s are eclipsing the Brisbane Broncos ,in hype and player pedigree already, and brand awarness and fan interest already, and have only been around for 6 months, shows just how much wanderers fans dream can wander, if they are eclipsing the 1988 Broncos, for class, fans interest, and quality of players on the roster, which the wanderers have a superior roster too and pedigree comparitvley speaking. And the sydney kings to when they were formed in the 1980’s.

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        February 4th 2013 @ 12:42am
        Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:42am | ! Report

        Oh My God Johnno, I can’t believe you just typed that up. You are comparing apples and oranges, vast difference! football fans will not dispute what you wrote for most of them wouldn’t care to either follow or go to the extent of understanding the history of the Brisbane Broncos, but you’ve found someone who knows all to well about the Broncos. I shall leave it at that for apples and oranges require no comparison. But if I ever see such non sense and drivel ever again I’ll be sure to remind you not let the door hit you on the way out!

        If you want me to continue then make sure you reply. But I seriously don’t want to waste a good argument no one will be able to follow on a football article. Once again the reason no one replied!

        • February 4th 2013 @ 11:35am
          Ian said | February 4th 2013 @ 11:35am | ! Report

          i’ll add to it.
          where is johnno from and who does he support?
          though this is a football forum and i love football moreso, but saying the wanderers have eclipsed the brisbane broncos for interest in 1988 ahd have a better playing roster is uttelery dumbfounding.
          if i start to reply i won’t stop. the first Brisbane team in the NSWRL after the years of the best players leaving for sydney with half the QLD state of origin team in it, with the Emperor of Lang Park – wally lewis, with gene miles, greg dowling the list goes on – the level of marketing and statewide interest in the broncos far outweights the WSW. there is utterly no comparison.
          eclipsing the broncos for fan interest and player quality???? oh jesus.

          i’m am actually stoked for WSW and have huge respect for Poppa so i have no agenda against them – poppa should probably get coach of the year if they keep their form for the next 8 weeks – but this comparison is stupifying. i’ll type it just to shock myself again. – WSW have more player pedigree, class, hype and fan interest than the Brisbane Broncos in 1988.

          *shocked face*

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            February 4th 2013 @ 11:59am
            Cameron Kellett said | February 4th 2013 @ 11:59am | ! Report

            I’m glad you replied to that extent Ian because if I replied I could have written an article!

            • February 4th 2013 @ 12:03pm
              Ian said | February 4th 2013 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

              think i’ll leave it at that. the mind boggles at the comparison.

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