Sugar and Bryce and everything nice: Why Gibbs is not going anywhere

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    Speculation is stilling milling in background about whether Bryce Gibbs will leave at the end of the year or not.

    Let’s get one thing really straight here, he has two years left on his contract.

    But does he want to move? Does Carlton’s surprising season change this at all?

    Bryce Gibbs is in stellar form this season. He is ranked number 58 in the AFL’s overall rankings, number two for the club.

    If you look at the AFL’s stats for players, you will see that since the start of the season he has been climbing up, with only a few dips. Against GWS he notched up 27 disposals.

    Without a doubt Adelaide would want him to join their ranks as they tried to snatch him during the trade period with Kane Cornes stating that he will obviously be in that team this season.

    What neither Adelaide nor Cornes understood was that Gibbs had no real impetus to leave Carlton other than media speculation, management query and the biased-one-sided diatribe of an ex-player who categorically does not like Carlton and can never say anything worthwhile about the club.

    But will Gibbs go at the end of this season? I don’t think so. Adelaide will have to do something quite extraordinary in order to get him. He is still under contract and if he does decide he wants to leave, then it will have to be on Carlton’s terms and their terms only. Not what Cornes states that Carlton should just by tearing up the contract without receiving anything of significance.

    Bryce Gibbs has a ball

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    The significant terms would be for a first round draft pick and a high calibre player, anything less and Carlton will once more show Adelaide the door.

    With each and every match, Carlton are developing and getting to a point where other coaches are starting to sit up and take notice. Leon Cameron said that coaches must now start taking notice of Carlton, after beating his Giants on the weekend.

    Given that Gibbsy moving to Adelaide would enhance his chances of winning a Premiership is in my view fraught with pros and cons and more cons than pros. What if he doesn’t gel with the playing group?

    What if he doesn’t jell with the coach? What if he just doesn’t become the player that those in Adelaide want him to be? Given that he is nearing the side of 30, he has to weigh up all of this.

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    • June 16th 2017 @ 3:06am
      Mattician6x6 said | June 16th 2017 @ 3:06am | ! Report

      Gibbs to adelaide for a 1st round and future second round pick.
      Mitch McGovern to WCE for a 1st round pick and possibly a fringe player or future 2nd round pick as well.
      Carlton to satisfy GWS demand for a 1st round pick this year and future 1st round pick for Kelly while retaining a 1st round pick in this years draft.
      Adelaide happy they get Gibbs and retain there 1st round pick, WCE happy they get a player to fill Kennedy void when he retires, blues happy they get Kelly and won’t feel any impact from trading Gibbs.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 7:37am
        Kane said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:37am | ! Report

        I actually hope Gibbs stays, he’s been through the tough times and i’d like to see him enjoy a little bit of success at Carlton. It’s obvious he loves the club. Carlton won’t be chasing a trade for him, it will only happen if he wants to go home to the family which is understandable. Kelly is going to be a gun but i hope Carlton don’t give away the next 2 first rounders and a truckload of the salary cap for him. Leave him where he is and keep building through the draft and maybe go after a free agent like Jackson Trengove, he’d be a handy forward who can ruck and go back if needed.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 9:17am
          Slane said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:17am | ! Report

          He’ll have to be playing in his 40’s to enjoy any Carlton sucess 😉

          • June 16th 2017 @ 10:03am
            Macca said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:03am | ! Report

            Is there anyone involved with Richmond in anyway aged under 40 who can remember any success? 😉

            • June 16th 2017 @ 10:51am
              Vivian said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:51am | ! Report

              Richmond are going OK. They made the finals in 2013!

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                June 16th 2017 @ 12:17pm
                Col from Brissie said | June 16th 2017 @ 12:17pm | ! Report

                Yeah then Carlton bundled them out!!!

              • June 16th 2017 @ 12:26pm
                Slane said | June 16th 2017 @ 12:26pm | ! Report

                That was Dimwits 3rd season in charge of that shambles of a club. Considering that the Tigers were being compared unfavourably to Fitzroy when he took over, you’d have to think Bolton will be winning a flag next season to be considered a better coach than Dimmer.

          • June 16th 2017 @ 11:50am
            Kane said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:50am | ! Report


      • June 16th 2017 @ 9:14am
        Macca said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:14am | ! Report

        While getting Kelly would be nice and if Gibbs left he would be a good replacement I can’t see the blues chasing this outcome – losing Gibbs and trading down a future first round draft pick for Adelaide future second (possibly shifting down around 30 spots) to get a Gibbs that is 6 years younger in Kelly doesn’t make the blues better.

        I agree with the author, if Gibbs goes it will be because Adelaide offered something to good to refuse

        • June 16th 2017 @ 10:27am
          Mattician6x6 said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:27am | ! Report

          Macca Carlton undoubtedly made the right choice making a stand at last years trade as it showed a position of strength and sent a message that the blues of the last 17 years were no longer and they would be making decisions for the long term not short term pie in sky fixes as has been the case since the salary cap breaches were exposed. I can see a softening in that stance in regards to Gibbs this season as Kelly suits the blues demographic going forward and Gibbs won’t be playing when the blues are a serious premiership chance in five years were as Kelly will be at peak of his abilities.

          • June 16th 2017 @ 10:36am
            Macca said | June 16th 2017 @ 10:36am | ! Report

            Possibly – but 5 years is still a long time, Adelaide will have to come up with an offer better than what was reported last year for the deal to get done.

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              June 16th 2017 @ 1:56pm
              bdosi said | June 16th 2017 @ 1:56pm | ! Report

              Simple – it won’t get done then Macca and blues will have a player who doesn’t want to be there (or at very least, would prefer to be elsewhere)
              They could be smart and trade him for a second round pick and say Cam Ellis Yoleman who’s only 23?

              • June 16th 2017 @ 2:02pm
                Macca said | June 16th 2017 @ 2:02pm | ! Report

                Bdosi – everyone said Gibbs won’t want to be at the blues this year and yet 1/2 way through the season and he is having a career best – hopefully next year he really doesn’t want to be there and he wins the brownlow!!

                As for your trade – how exactly is that smart for the blues?

    • June 16th 2017 @ 6:50am
      Jack said | June 16th 2017 @ 6:50am | ! Report

      Gibbs love almost certainly go. He will be 29 next year so a first rounder is more then fair. Our 5 year flag window will be from 2020

      Carltpns ceo said last month to media they were well placed to trade this year so it happening.

      All of this being said I won’t complain if we get a second draft pick

      • June 16th 2017 @ 11:13am
        Mattician6x6 said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:13am | ! Report

        Adelaide will want to hold onto lever and McGovern to WCE will inevitably happen one day just like Brad hill to Fremantle.
        If Adelaide can satisfy Carlton, Get Gibbs and retain a 1st round pick its a good position considering their premiership chance with this group has about 2years left in the window being open.

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          June 16th 2017 @ 11:30am
          Lamby said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:30am | ! Report

          2 years left in the window being open.

          I am not sure about that. The Crows are a very young side. They had 7 players in the Under 22 AA squad last year – Crouchx2, Cameron, Lever, Laird, Atkins, McGovern. So most of our midfielders a key forward and a key back have only just clicked over 50 games. Yes, Betts probably only has 2 years, but he is not the team.

          The current window probably shuts when Tex retires. He (and Sloane) have just turned 27.

          • June 16th 2017 @ 11:46am
            Mattician6x6 said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:46am | ! Report

            That is were my assessment is at as well, this premiership window will invoIve sloane. Tex , betts etc before a inevitable downturn for 1-2 seasons before Adelaide rebound quickly as is usually the case.

        • June 16th 2017 @ 11:36am
          sammy said | June 16th 2017 @ 11:36am | ! Report

          ‘considering their premiership chance with this group has about 2years left in the window being open.’

          The entire Adelaide defense is 25 years and under. the Crouch brothers are early 20’s as is Milera, Atkins, Hampton & Cameron. Sloane and Tex are 27, It is only Eddie Betts who is 30+ and the way he plays, he could play till he is 35. As long as the club can keep lever and McGovern and add in top end qualitty in the draft / trade period, they will be around the premiership window for a number of years to come.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 5:54pm
        David C said | June 16th 2017 @ 5:54pm | ! Report

        He definitely wanted to leave last year despite what the article says. Might be tied into Kelly from GWS??

    • June 16th 2017 @ 7:48am
      Sammy said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:48am | ! Report

      Adelaide won’t offer up anything like that as they are structuring up to keep lever and McGovern who are far more important for their long term success. They need to save this year’s first rounder for their next father son prospect in Jackson Edwards so unless Carlton are interested in trading him for say a second round pick then I see no way a deal will get done. I think that ship has sailed from both sides

      • June 16th 2017 @ 12:00pm
        Mattician6x6 said | June 16th 2017 @ 12:00pm | ! Report

        Success is determined by premierships and clubs will role the dice and pursue a ready made player to fill a perceived weakness if they get close but don’t win always have always will, hence why Adelaide was so aggressive in their pursuit of Gibbs last trade and will again test the water this year.

        • June 18th 2017 @ 1:00pm
          Don Freo said | June 18th 2017 @ 1:00pm | ! Report

          I’d say Adelaide was half-hearted last year.. not aggressive at all.

          They have no weakness that Gibbs is able to fill. They already have strength in his area of strength.

    • June 16th 2017 @ 7:51am
      Ditto said | June 16th 2017 @ 7:51am | ! Report

      Hopefully Gibbs has resolved his issues about living in Melbourne and wants to stay. I think that would be best.

    • June 16th 2017 @ 8:09am
      GJ said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:09am | ! Report

      Macca could have written this ..

    • June 16th 2017 @ 8:34am
      Ditto said | June 16th 2017 @ 8:34am | ! Report

      Oh and btw, could everybody please try and ignore everything that K.Cornes ever says and he might just go away.

      • June 16th 2017 @ 9:20am
        Jolza said | June 16th 2017 @ 9:20am | ! Report

        The irony from the article is Kane Cornes is far from a fan of the Adelaide Crows as well after his Port Adelaide days.