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    Perth Spirit vs Melbourne Rising

    National Rugby Championship, 3 September, 2017

    McGillivray Oval
    Fulltime - Perth Spirit 45, Melbourne Rising 33
    Perth Spirit   Melbourne Rising
    45 FINAL SCORE 33
    7 TRIES 5
    0 DROP GOALS 0
    Referee: Will Houston
    Touch judges: Justin Foster & Sam Jones

    Rugby in Western Australia is still alive as the Perth Spirit clash against Melbourne Rising in the NRC this afternoon. Join The Roar for live scores from 5pm AEST.

    It has been a tumultuous past few weeks for Rugby in Perth, with the Western Force being sacrificed by the ARU to better manage Australia’s Super Rugby woes.

    In the NRC however, WA still has a rugby team to support and it will be fascinating to see how the Spirit responds in a match that ironically pits them against a team from Melbourne – home of the Rebels Super Rugby outfit that avoided being cut at the expense of the Force.

    On paper, Perth will prove formidable opposition this season, with most of their starting side having played Super Rugby for the Force this season.

    Although Spirit head coach Kevin Foote does not have access to Wallabies lock Adam Coleman or winger Dane Haylett-Petty, the other Force Wallabies — Pek Cowan, Tetra Faulkner, Richard Hardwick and Curtis Rona, plus national training squad member Billy Meakes — will turn out at McGillivray Oval.

    Perth also possesses some exciting youngsters, with Australian under-20 loosehead prop Mees Erasmus to come off the bench, along with highly-regarded 19-year-old lock Ben Grant.

    The Melbourne Rising side, by contrast, is a mix of established Super Rugby players, including internationals James Hanson, Toby Smith and Lopeti Timani, mixed in with such up-and-comers as lock Esie Haangana and Rebels recruit Jack McGregor, who will partner Nic Stirzaker in the halves.

    With such a young lineup, hooker James Hanson’s international experience will certainly be welcome during the set piece as well as around the field in a youthful Melbourne pack.

    Hanson played just one game for the Rising in 2016, missing the remainder with Wallabies duties, but he is set to feature far more in the Rising’s 2017 campaign, in a tremendous boost for the side.

    If the Rising can find the defensive consistency they managed last year, and improve on a high-potential attack, there are no limits to this team’s potential.

    However, given the recent events surrounding the Force’s demise, Perth have plenty to play for in front of their home fans and should do enough to secure the win this afternoon.

    Spirit by 14

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    • 5:14pm
      JM said | 5:14pm | ! Report

      First time I have been able to make it to a Spirit game. Good crowd, good atmosphere and full credit to Perth and Melbourne on playing entertaining rugby. But what I am very concerned about is that the Spirit are going to be the same as Perth Gold were once the Force are folded up. Perth Gold was a team for the Perth elite clubs- the big 4 – Nedlands, Wests, Soaks and Cottesloe plus UWA and Palmyra completes the list of these clubs in Perth’s wealthiest suburbs. It was everything that we have accused the Australian Rugby of being the past few months, a team for the elites. Any club that was outside those I have listed were shunned and hence there was vey little support at the Perth Gold games from supporters of these clubs.

      Now I really hope I am wrong about this but what I observed yesterday was a team playing at a ground smack bang in the middle of Perth’s wealthiest suburbs ( I am aware it was at WA Rugby HQ), surrounded by the 6 clubs I have mentioned. The support was from all these clubs there but next to none from other Perth Clubs ( 6 out of 18 clubs). WA Rugby has come so far since the Force have been established and the past 14 months have seen the participation numbers double in juniors and seniors. We are the fastest growing rugby state and we have grown so much that a second seniors competition was formed and now we have northern and southern suburb competitions. At the Force games you see people from all the Perth clubs there supporting the Force. I just did not see that with the Spirit yesterday, I observed WA Rugby poised to return to the pre Force era.

      Now to the WA folk involved in the game. Am I wrong in my observations? What do you think needs to be done to get the other clubs involved?

      • Roar Pro

        Crazy Horse said | 4:04pm | ! Report

        McGillivray is by far the best venue for NRC. It’s the only club ground that can accommodate so many people so they can all see the game. Being privately owned (by UWA) there is no problem with councils etc wanting to use it for other purposes and the actual pitch is magnificent.

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 10:57am | ! Report

      Both 10’s, Jono Lance and Jack Mannix put in very good games. Chieka was there. I hope he took note.

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 11:44pm | ! Report

      Nasiarani would be my Man of the Match. Dickie Hardwick Most Enthusiastic {Player (on and off the pitch). The boy just loves rugby and everything about it. He’s a joy to be around.

    • 7:40pm
      Cpt crow eater said | 7:40pm | ! Report

      Thanks for the comments C.H!

    • 7:36pm
      Mothy said | 7:36pm | ! Report

      My first NRC game and who should rock up next to me but Cheika.

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 6:43pm | ! Report

      Full time. Perth Spirit 45 Melbourne 33. Anothet dominant display by Perth. So of course cut WA from Super Rugby.

      • Roar Rookie

        Paul D said | 6:49pm | ! Report

        Good win, but far from dominant if we’re honest.

        • Roar Pro

          robel said | 7:36pm | ! Report

          Left two possibly 3 extra trys on the park. Scored a try when down a man. It was pretty dominant.
          Only issue was the scrum after 1/2 time when Pen went off.

          • 7:44pm
            Paul D said | 7:44pm | ! Report

            We can agree to disagree, but I think you forfeit any claim to dominance when you let in 5 tries.

            • Roar Guru

              Train Without A Station said | 8:49am | ! Report

              And the Spirit had Super Rugby experience in every position in the starting XV, while the Rising had a very young team playing away.

              A good win by the Spirit. Hardly dominant.

              • 3:37pm
                Ex force fan said | 3:37pm | ! Report

                The Force struggled with injuries during the normal seasons and had to give a lot of local talent Superugby experience before they were ready and that is the reason why so many of Spirit players had Superugby experience. I would thought the Rebels should have been in the same position with their comparable injury toll…they do not have many players in the Wallaby squad so what happened with them?

                I thought the Spirit got the upper hand in the 2nd part of the 1st half and 1st part of the 2nd half and it started to look like they are building to a big score. However they lost the plot in the scrums after the replacements came on.

              • 10:39pm
                Train Without A Station said | 10:39pm | ! Report

                The Force didn’t give game time to any local players that were not in their official squad.

              • Roar Guru

                Train Without A Station said | 4:10pm | ! Report

                Except 10 of that 15 played Super Rugby before 2017.

                Those that didn’t:

                Richie Arnold – Was fully contracted in 2016, but injured.
                Billy Meakes – Was only contracted for 2017. Played Aviva in 2016.
                Chance Peni – Was only contracted for 2017. Played NRL in 2016.
                Curtis Rona – Was only contracted for 2017. Played NRL in 2016.
                Isa Naisarani – Was only contracted for 2017 off the back of the 2016 NRC with another team.
                James Verity-Amm.

                All of them were fully contracted and therefore likely to play Super Rugby at some point.

                In fact 20 of the 23 were fully contracted Super Rugby players in 2017.

                The Rising on the other hand had 4 starters who were not fully contracted in 2017, and another 6 on the bench.

                Esei Haangana from the Rebels who was in the Under 20s program, not the full time squad but eventually made his Super Rugby debut in 2017 due to injuries is an example of what you were talking about.

                Fully contracted squad members are not.

              • Roar Guru

                Timbo (L) said | 7:41pm | ! Report

                That’s called Depth, Forced by Injuries earlier in the year.

                Regulars not Playing:
                A reserve Prop or 2.

                Puts a pretty big dent in your premise.

                If the Spirit are so star-studded, then why didn’t Cheika pick them?
                [Yes, this is a loaded question]

                Well done to the Rising.
                Mattocks, Stirzaker, Koribete and Macgregor had outstanding games.

                Spirit were able to Drop Their Openside out to 10 Hardwick Slotted into 7 and Isi into 6 and the scrum still held firm in defense.

                I didn’t see why Rona was carded. I am hoping it was for repeated team offside because if was for the knock down that was nonsense, it was a fingertip away from a coast to coast intercept..

              • Roar Guru

                Train Without A Station said | 9:55pm | ! Report

                Except the Force didn’t actually struggle with injuries in 2017 to the level that everybody claims.

                Outside their officially listed squad, the Force used 2 players.

                Lewis Carmichael who played 7 games, 5 off the bench.

                Mitch Short who made 4 bench appearances.

                3 of those in the squad played 0 games due to injury.

                The Rebels on the other hand, used 8 players outside of their officially listed squad. 4 of those players started games, with one starting 10 across the year.

                In some games the Rebels had 5 of those 8 in the 23.

                They had 7 players that didn’t play a single game due to injury.

                The Force gave 0 local players outside their squad game time in 2017. Mitchell Short was called in from Randwick, and Lewis Carmichael from Scotland.

              • 3:29am
                scottd said | 3:29am | ! Report

                TWAS, I don’t know why you bother.

                When the Force travelled to South Africa and Argentina they didn’t have enough fit players to form a 23 man squad. In fact they took two unfit players on the basis that they would probably be able to play the 2nd game. That sounds to me like they had plenty of injury problems.

                The fact is that the Spirit chose to put their best side on the paddock and a lot of their players had some form of SR experience. The fact is that WA picked up quite a few player in 2017 that now have 1 or part of 1 season of SR (e.g. Naisarani, Verity Amm, Koteka, Rangi etc). The fact is the ARU allowed some Wallabies to play this weekend so they were on the paddock too. Get over it!

                The Rising could have had as many players with SR experience if they had chosen to to do so but they didn’t. However clearly they chose their best available team so I have no idea what your comments are trying to prove. It was a good game that was enjoyed by the spectators. Rather than trying to find fault you might want to make an effort to make a positive statement.

              • 3:35am
                scottd said | 3:35am | ! Report

                Timbo, I think it was Peni that was carded and it was for repeated offside in the def red zone. I think I heard the ref say it was the teams 4th? offside and he had previously warned them. He was very offside so no argument really.

              • Roar Guru

                Train Without A Station said | 7:44am | ! Report


                The Force at no point used more than 2 players who were not in their original squad. Neither were locals.

                I’ve looked at the team lists for every game.

                Kane Koteka made his Force debut in 2015. Anaru Rangi made his debut in 2016.

                For this tour where they were so undermanned, the following players were named for both games:

                1. Cowan
                2. Van Wyk
                3. Tessman
                4. RHP
                5. Coleman
                6. Stander
                7. Hardwick
                8. Naisarani
                9. Prio
                10. Lance
                11. Newsome
                12. Meakews
                13. Rona
                14. Verity-Amm
                15. Grant
                16. Vui
                17. Carmichael
                18. Short
                19. Faulkner

                That’s without considering whether Havili, Brache, Hodgson, Masirewa and Burton who played the 1st or 2nd game back were just dropped for 1 of the 2 games.

              • 9:05am
                scottd said | 9:05am | ! Report

                Yet again TWAS you deliberately miss the point of what I have said to you.

                Go and have a think about it!

      • 9:15pm
        Carltonian said | 9:15pm | ! Report

        Shame they could not do it at Super level, which is why they were given the boot.

        • 9:52pm
          In Brief said | 9:52pm | ! Report

          Except for the times they did do it – like belting the Tahs in the last match of the season.

        • 10:34pm
          Ex force fan said | 10:34pm | ! Report

          Their win percentage is higher than any other Australian team during Superugby. Why were thry cut, who knows as the ARU cannot explain. Maybe you saw the spreadsheet carltonian and can give us an explanation. Imthink even Clyne, Pulver and Eales will be interested as they are also just as clueless as everyone else, including you.

          • Roar Guru

            Train Without A Station said | 8:50am | ! Report

            That’s not true. Their win percentage was not higher than the Brumbies.

            • 3:24pm
              Ex force fan said | 3:24pm | ! Report

              Win % = Number of games won divided by number of games played.

              The finals the Brumbies and Force won exactly the same number of a games and had the same win percentage. However the Brumbies played in the semi-final and lost that game. So their Win % are lower than the Force % as they played and lost and extra game. Maths, what a bugger.

              • 3:38pm
                Ex force fan said | 3:38pm | ! Report

                Before the finals the Force and Brumbies won and lost the same number of games. However the Brumbies lost an extra game in the finals so their win % is lower.

              • Roar Rookie

                Paul D said | 3:42pm | ! Report

                I guess you should be grateful the Force didn’t make the finals and ruin your “stats”….

          • Roar Rookie

            Paul D said | 8:58am | ! Report

            “Their win percentage is higher than any other Australian team during Superugby”

            Umm, what?

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 6:37pm | ! Report

      Spirit look like scoring but lose it forward over the line.

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 6:21pm | ! Report

      I’m right in front of the UWA clubrooms in a Force polo next to a green chair if anyone wants to come and say hello.

      • Roar Pro

        robel said | 7:38pm | ! Report

        If I’d known before I went I would have dropped past.

    • Roar Pro

      Crazy Horse said | 6:19pm | ! Report

      Try Jack Mannix Conv missed Perth 45 Melbourne 33.

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