Pagan: Giants have been treated with kid gloves for way too long



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    It’s time for tough love at GWS, says North Melbourne great Denis Pagan – a master of the concept.

    The two-time Kangaroos premiership coach savaged the Giants after their qualifying final loss to Adelaide, saying their attitude smacked of arrogance.

    He also praised Richmond after their qualifying final triumph, but warns their mentality will be crucial as they deal with only one game in three weeks.

    Pagan’s Facebook commentary on the AFL is required reading and he has posted his first piece in nearly a year.

    As always, he did not hold back.

    “GWS appear arrogant to me – they haven’t fired a shot in AFL football, they argue constantly among themselves, with the opposition and frequently dispute the umpire’s decisions,” Pagan said.

    “Sensitive new age coaching hasn’t worked with this team, time for some tough love coaching now, it is not a popularity contest, it is about respect and winning.

    “I was amazed to see the coach (Leon Cameron) patting the players on the back after the game.”

    Pagan also likes what Richmond showed last Friday night, with some qualifications.

    “Richmond smashed Geelong because their pressure and bodywork was first class, they forced Geelong to over use the ball in close,” he said.

    “Geelong (are) maybe too slow at the MCG.

    “With the Richmond roar behind them they may become an irresistible force, I hope they haven’t celebrated too hard although Trent Cotchin spoke superbly post game.

    “One game in three weeks is also going to have an effect, it is all between the ears now.”

    Pagan also was unimpressed with Essendon, calling some of their efforts “feeble” in the elimination final loss to Sydney, while he said Port Adelaide were the better side and wasted opportunities in the agonising extra-time near miss against West Coast.

    He added that whatever the tactics, the principles stay the same.

    “The winning finals formula in my opinion is about Perfection through Simplicity, your philosophy/game plan should focus on your attack on the ball and the man with the ball, your team psyche should be to beat your opponent first,” Pagan said.

    “If you are ferocious with your bodywork, tackling, spoiling and harassing it is a great start, how good were Richmond here.

    “Emotional control and self discipline has a big say in proceedings also. GWS have issues here!”

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    • September 12th 2017 @ 7:22am
      I ate pies said | September 12th 2017 @ 7:22am | ! Report

      Bang on Dennis. Realistically, this year was GWS’ best chance of a premiership. Their old blokes are going down hill, and the poaching from other clubs will begin in earnest this year. I expect them to have record low crowds next year and for the exodus to continue next year. It’s fantastic.

      • September 12th 2017 @ 10:00am
        GoSwans said | September 12th 2017 @ 10:00am | ! Report

        I thought that this was their year too but then they had injury after injury and now 2 just at the wrong time. Lack of continuity means they are not used to playing with each other.

        I think there’s some big egos who like flashy running with the ball but can’t go the other way. If you can not apply defensive pressure in finals you won’t get far. Defensive pressure is essential against Adelaide and hence the Giants poor record against them. Oddly they played the man aggressively against the Swans in the Qualifying Final and I’d expect that this weekend.

        I expect there will be poaching as salary cap issues continue but the depth of their talent should cope giving them top 4 for a number of years and the opportunity for flags that will help them keep players. I expect growing crowds as they have a fantastic boutique stadium that’s great for watching games.

        • September 12th 2017 @ 12:04pm
          I ate pies said | September 12th 2017 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

          They have some quite soft players across the middle, which hurts them – Whitfield, Shiel and Scully look great when they have the ball but they disappear when it’s going the other way.

          • September 12th 2017 @ 1:06pm
            Gecko said | September 12th 2017 @ 1:06pm | ! Report

            Agreed. Swapping one of those for Rockliffe would get their balance right for 2018, and Rockliffe wouldn’t put up with their prima donna approach.

      • September 12th 2017 @ 1:09pm
        Gecko said | September 12th 2017 @ 1:09pm | ! Report

        Dennis is correct but he’s not saying anything insightful. His analysis of how to win finals sounds like an under 13s coach.

        • September 12th 2017 @ 2:53pm
          I ate pies said | September 12th 2017 @ 2:53pm | ! Report

          That analysis also applies to senior footy though. Watch the Crows game on Thursday night – they got the ball forward using any means possible, whilst GWS tried to be pretty.

    • Roar Pro

      September 12th 2017 @ 3:36pm
      anon said | September 12th 2017 @ 3:36pm | ! Report

      It’s taken the “experts” until mid-September to for it to dawn on them that GWS are soft frontrunners.

      I’ve had them figured out since early May, and have been suspect of them since round 1.

      An “expert” is supposed to anticipate these things. Not sit on the couch like Kingy and tell you what happened after the fact.

      The signs have been there all year! I was just more sensitive to them.

      • Roar Guru

        September 12th 2017 @ 6:00pm
        Cat said | September 12th 2017 @ 6:00pm | ! Report

        oh look its an article on GWS complete with the requisite anon post patting himself on the back … again. Careful you don’t blow out a shoulder.

    • September 12th 2017 @ 6:15pm
      Jon boy said | September 12th 2017 @ 6:15pm | ! Report

      Pagans spot on and even Anon is right and ate pies hit the nail on the head……Leon Cameron was a very good footballer but very soft which is evident in his coaching style big mistake extending contract.Having said that they will beat the eagles who will run out of legs.

    • September 14th 2017 @ 8:59pm
      republican said | September 14th 2017 @ 8:59pm | ! Report

      ……..I wouldn’t write them off yet.
      That said I reckon they will beat West Coast, who are very fortunate to be there at all………..

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