The Roar Podcast (debut episode!) – Money In Sport

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    That’s right, the team behind The Roar is getting behind the mic to bring you The Roar Podcast.

    Each episode we’re going to be delving into an issue that always seems to be popping up in sports headlines around the world.

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    In our debut episode, Daniel Jeffrey, Ben Conkey and Riordan Lee break down the ever-increasing impact money is having on sport. We ask:

    Can players’ salaries keep on rising in Australia?

    What does the future hold for broadcast deals?

    Do salary caps work? How should they work? And… do we even like them?

    Then finally, the big one – has all this money made sport better or worse?

    To get to the bottom of these questions, the team called on the unique insights of Roar Expert and economist Ryan Buckland.

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    • Roar Guru

      November 30th 2017 @ 9:38am
      Cat said | November 30th 2017 @ 9:38am | ! Report

      Salary caps are a necessary evil. I do not think Australian sports, particularly AFL, would survive without them.

      Clubs like St Kilda, Brisbane, Bulldogs, Melbourne wouldn’t survive for very long. They’d be spent out of the game in a couple years. A reduction of teams guarantees less TV money in the next contract. Less TV money means even the mid tier teams that were struggling to survive would eventually fold.

      The competition would continue to shrink and TV networks would eventually drop it altogether. Eventually even the big clubs would struggle financially, or be left with no one to play.

      I’m with Ryan, there definitely is no where near enough transparency in Australian sport regarding salary caps.

    • November 30th 2017 @ 10:39am
      Peter the Scribe said | November 30th 2017 @ 10:39am | ! Report

      Australia and Australian sport is a tiny market compared to the USA. Our salary cap prevented the whole competition eating itself and having nothing left. The introduction of it was the only option. The days of clubs buying flags is over and I’m even swinging around to the idea of the separation of VFL and AFL records starting from 1990 even though the Pies sit one behind Essendon and Carlton in the flag count.

      • November 30th 2017 @ 6:01pm
        dave said | November 30th 2017 @ 6:01pm | ! Report

        Totally agree.Dont want to take the flags away from them successful clubs but would like flags won after 1990(im sure they is plenty of debate on when the cut off point would be) recognised as being won in more level playing field.
        A good example would be the Bulldogs who hadn’t won a flag in 50 years.During the first 30 years they didn’t really stand a chance because the bigger clubs were buying all the flags.Without salary cap this drought may have gone on for another 50 years while the big money clubs kept filling their trophy cabinets.

        • November 30th 2017 @ 6:13pm
          dave said | November 30th 2017 @ 6:13pm | ! Report

          Maybe after 2000?1990 would be including the Eagles who had a pretty handy advantage with their state side.
          Or maybe just start now because it has taken a long time but I think we are finally seeing the draft/salary cap do what it was designed for.I remember one round last year where there was a game or less difference between the teams in all 9 games.
          But that would take away the Hawks,Dog,Tiges flags.
          Its tricky,Maybe the best solution is to just roll your eyes when you hear some Essendon supporter going on about how many flags they have won despite being one of the poorer performing teams in the new age.

          • December 1st 2017 @ 9:14am
            Kavvy said | December 1st 2017 @ 9:14am | ! Report

            The league known as the AFL started in 1990. In other delineation is silly.

    • November 30th 2017 @ 1:52pm
      Mattyb said | November 30th 2017 @ 1:52pm | ! Report

      The biggest financial issues facing the AFL is all the upcoming legal cases regarding concussion and how many more cases will go to court if the upcoming cases are successful. Then we will also have participation issues in accordance to this which will make topics like AFLX important.
      Broadcast deals will certainly have a major impact on all sport moving into the future. From a theoretical viewpoint I could easily see very few people attending sport live in 10-20 years time as technology is improving at such a rate,meaning revenue will need to multiply through the use of this technology.

      • November 30th 2017 @ 2:23pm
        Hungry Jack said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:23pm | ! Report

        Recent trends have AFL attendances actually increasing! Genuine supporters and footy enthusiasts will continue to watch games ‘live’, at the venue. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Do you mean to tell me Perth’s new stadium, which you’ve been such a huge advocate for, ‘Will change the way people view football’, will be catering for diminishing crowds over the next two decades? What a waste!

        • Roar Guru

          November 30th 2017 @ 2:44pm
          Cat said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:44pm | ! Report

        • Roar Guru

          November 30th 2017 @ 2:45pm
          Cat said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:45pm | ! Report

          He think’s VR is gonna take over soon. Meanwhile Telstra can barely manage to stream a tiny picture to a mobile phone without it a myriad of issues such as stuttering, failing to go full screen etc. And that is only a small number of people attempting to do so at the same time. Imagine Australian internet trying to handle 500,000 people VRing into a game at the same time, let alone multiple games and multiple sports at the same time.

          • Roar Guru

            November 30th 2017 @ 2:50pm
            AdelaideDocker said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:50pm | ! Report


            God, it was worse on iPads. Absolutely pathetic how you couldn’t get a full screen display on the iPads, due to “broadcasting issues” or something.

            As someone who doesn’t have Foxtel, trying to broadcast games that weren’t on free to air was very, very hard for me. I legit had to be live-blogging games through the stream on my phone, once or twice.

            • November 30th 2017 @ 2:54pm
              Peter the Scribe said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:54pm | ! Report

              Ummm, AD am I the only one who watched AFL live on my Ipad (as past of my Bigpond bundle for free) without issues? Whether home, coming back from the game, even at the footy in the breaks I can watch games live pretty much as I like?
              If you have a decent Boigpond bundle you can watch all AFL games free and live and then watch replays to whenever you want?

              • Roar Guru

                November 30th 2017 @ 3:07pm
                AdelaideDocker said | November 30th 2017 @ 3:07pm | ! Report

                Oh, don’t get me wrong Peter it works well most of the time.

                It’s just, when watching on the AFL app in the iPad, full-screen capabilities were/are unavailable for live games. The live broadcast would show in the top left corner of the screen, and you weren’t able to make it full screen. Incredibly annoying, to say the least.


              • Roar Guru

                November 30th 2017 @ 3:17pm
                Cat said | November 30th 2017 @ 3:17pm | ! Report

                The point is what is being streamed today (and Telstra isn’t the only provider who has struggled when demand is high, GoT caused quite a few nightmares for HBO services) is only a fraction of the bandwidth that would be necessary for a true VR broadcast, especially one that is good enough to get people to stay home instead of going to the game.

              • December 1st 2017 @ 1:13am
                dontknowmuchaboutfootball said | December 1st 2017 @ 1:13am | ! Report

                AD, from what I understand, it wasn’t “technical difficulties” that prevented full screen, but rather the broadcasting agreement. Basically, Telstra was only allowed to stream at mobile phone sized dimensions.

            • November 30th 2017 @ 3:35pm
              Peter the Scribe said | November 30th 2017 @ 3:35pm | ! Report

              well if Telstra keep giving live passes away I guess the demand will go through the roof….speaking to someone who has been at Telstra for 25 years, he thinks the NBN aint going to solve it all…I’m stoked the way it worked for me ATM…all live games and all qtr by qtr replays basically whenever I want from my Telstra bundle so all for free…then set up the mirroring to a bigger screen if you are at home

      • Roar Guru

        November 30th 2017 @ 2:23pm
        AdelaideDocker said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:23pm | ! Report

        You do make a good point regarding the concussion legal cases, but for the mean time the League’s attendance is doing very well. Participation at all levels increased by 10% this year, over 2016, and females made 30% of those.

        • November 30th 2017 @ 2:44pm
          Mattyb said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:44pm | ! Report

          AD,I agree participation is going very well but have concerns that the legal situation could effect this long term rather than short term,sorry if I wasn’t clearer.
          With attendance I did say my view was from a theoretical viewpoint,in this I was more talking from a scientific viewpoint rather than very recent attendance figures.I certainly think people will still follow sport, just not
          in the same way they do today,they will use technology.I did say 10-20 years time so it’s a little way off yet but not that far.
          Again,it seems I should have been clearer that this is my viewpoint on the future of sport rather than what I think will happen next year.

          • Roar Guru

            November 30th 2017 @ 3:09pm
            AdelaideDocker said | November 30th 2017 @ 3:09pm | ! Report

            Oh, for sure. You absolutely make some intriguing points!

            I was really just trying to introduce the interesting participation news into the forum, to be honest. I didn’t explain my segue very well, my mistake!

      • November 30th 2017 @ 2:57pm
        Peter the Scribe said | November 30th 2017 @ 2:57pm | ! Report

        Good point regarding AFLX Matty….plus I believe it will open opportunities for lighter framed kids to play at a high level….at the moment kids under 70KG’s are very rarely given a chance at AFL level….

        • November 30th 2017 @ 3:48pm
          Mattyb said | November 30th 2017 @ 3:48pm | ! Report

          Once again to make myself perfectly clear on my viewpoint surrounding the broadcasting rights.
          I am not talking about tomorrow or next season. In ten years time I highly doubt we will be watching ‘footy apps’ using the same technology we will be using today,we will be using quantum computing or something far more advanced than even that.
          This is probably a scientific discussion more so than sport so its probably not the place although I personally think they’re somewhat inclusive to one another when discussing the broadcasting rights. Id consider much of this interesting rather than debatable but it’s always interesting which angle people choose to go.

          • Roar Guru

            November 30th 2017 @ 5:16pm
            Cat said | November 30th 2017 @ 5:16pm | ! Report

            Australia will still be rolling out the already dated NBN

    • December 1st 2017 @ 12:03pm
      Edward Davenhill said | December 1st 2017 @ 12:03pm | ! Report

      Love this – well done chaps

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