The derby was great – as long as you’re a Sydney FC fan

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    Matt Simon is to Adrian Mierzejewski what motor oil is to a magnum of champagne, yet it was Simon who truly terrorised the Wanderers defence yesterday.

    For 70 teeth-rattling minutes, former Mariners man Simon showed his full range of abilities against a suitably harassed Wanderers defence in Sydney FC’s 3-1 derby win in torrential rain at Allianz Stadium.

    There were flying elbows and misplaced passes, niggly fouls and backchat aplenty – but there were also a few key moments that Simon’s army of detractors will no doubt have missed.

    Firstly, he helped win the free-kick that led to Sydney FC’s equaliser after the intended recipient of his one-two, Milos Ninkovic, was fouled.

    Secondly, he set up Mierzejewski’s second with a comical assist that cannoned off his chest after he literally thighed the ball into himself.

    Lastly, he almost had a hand in a third just before the hour mark when Bobo ran on to Mierzejewski’s pinpoint through ball – after Simon had drawn Michael Thwaite into his space, forcing Brendan Hamill to gallop back frantically in defence.

    Later, a tired Wanderers defence gave the ball away to Ninkovic, who promptly set up Bobo to kill off the game.

    Why does this matter? Because with so much focus on their foreigners, Sydney FC’s critics often forget that the Sky Blues are more than capable of winning ugly.

    And that’s bad news for the rest of the A-League, given that no one has truly worked out how to beat the defending champions.

    The other good news? The fact that more than 25,000 fans turned up in absolutely abysmal conditions to watch the final Sydney Derby before Allianz Stadium is knocked down and rebuilt.

    For all the pre-match talk about poor ticket sales, the derby still managed to put a couple of rival sports in the shade at the box office.

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    And A-League fans who complained so vociferously about a Sunday night kick-off could probably do with a dose of perspective.

    Know what other big games kicked off on a Sunday this weekend?

    Only the League Cup final at Wembley, Manchester United–Chelsea in the Premier League, Roma-Milan in Serie A, Leverkusen–Schalke in the Bundesliga, Feyenoord–PSV Eindhoven in the Eredivisie and Paris Saint-Germain–Marseille in France’s Le Classique.

    Heck, even Kashima Antlers managed to fill the entire away end at a sold-out Nihondaira Stadium against Shimizu S-Pulse yesterday, following a 300-kilometre journey that would have required a Shinkansen trip, a local train and then a bus ride to Mitch Duke’s picturesque home ground.

    Want to know why the J.League gets big crowds? Because people show up at the games.

    And that’s something we need more of across the board in the A-League, and not just for derbies.

    Still, those who did turn up in wet weather this weekend deserve plenty of credit – even if Brisbane Roar fans must have wondered why they bothered.

    Of all Football Federation Australia’s perception problems, they have an increasingly serious one in Brisbane, where fans are more and more convinced that the FFA don’t care about what happens to football in the city because it’s not Sydney or Melbourne.

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    Case in point? Nikolai Topor-Stanley’s clear foul on Avraam Papadopoulos in stoppage time of Brisbane Roar’s 1-0 loss to the Newcastle Jets on Saturday.

    It should have been a penalty, but neither referee Stephen Lucas nor – farcically – the VAR saw fit to award a spot-kick.

    So that’s another two points dropped by a Roar side that has had countless refereeing decisions go against them all season.

    Of course, if Brett Holman had just lifted his shot over the goalkeeper – like the underrated Bobo did for Sydney FC – then the Roar might have snatched a point anyway.

    They deserved to on the balance of chances alone.

    But that’s been the story of the A-League season to date. Plenty of hustle and bustle, but only Sydney FC have got an Adrian to go with their Simon.

    Mike Tuckerman
    Mike Tuckerman

    Mike Tuckerman is a Sydney-born journalist and lifelong football fan. After lengthy stints watching the beautiful game in Germany and Japan, he settled in Brisbane, and has been a leading Roar football columnist since December 2008.

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    • February 26th 2018 @ 7:48am
      chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 7:48am | ! Report

      Mike some good points about Simon. If it wasn’t for the fact that he’s a striker that doesn’t score he’d be even better : )
      Also, the SFS had a great atmosphere last night but seriously unless you were one of the lucky ones at the back of the stands you would have got seriously drenched. Not only do we need a new stadium but we need one with a roof!
      (Or at least stands that offer proper protection from the elements).

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:12am
        Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:12am | ! Report

        Simon did his thing ,.,.. but surely Adrian Mierzejewski is the talking point from the Sydney gsme ..

    • February 26th 2018 @ 7:50am
      Buddy said | February 26th 2018 @ 7:50am | ! Report

      Yesterday’s weather conditions went a long way to support the controversial plan of knocking down and rebuilding the SFS irrespective of the sponsor and naming rights. There wasn’t a dry soul in the place whether you paid for a general admission ticket or you were using a platinum pass in the members’ area. On the western and eastern terraces there were a handful of rows of seats in the dry and with the cameras looking east you would have been forgiven for wondering where the 25000 plus crowd was hiding. In the members, there were swathes of seats that were totally unusable and the stairwells to reach the upper tier were awash as well as being exposed to the elements in some parts. Staff were busy mopping up the entrance to the Captain’s bar and many people watched the whole game from behind the glass as they dried off from the journey to the stadium. The bag searches – farcical as they are sometimes, all took place directly in the pouring rain which meant the contents either got soaked or it was a waste of time checking.
      Finally, exiting Moore Park is the experience nobody wants or needs. The grassed car park, quaint as it may be is a nightmare to motorist, pedestrian, police and stewards. The bus queues and lack of logic in the management of moving large crowds quickly is quite laughable. With a few tweaks, that process could be so much more efficient but instead leaves thousands of people with an unpleasant experience and extra wet! The walk back to central was still more inviting although it also provided a stark reminder of how many leaks there are and how poor the gutters and drains are in an area where a 2 bedroom terraced house costs well over 1 million.
      I won’t miss visitng this stadium at all. Poorly designed on so many levels and an indictement on planners and the government that approved it when you think it is only 30 years old.
      As for the game, Janjetovic positioned himself poorly for a free kick that was always going to curl to his left and was quite reachable. Two comical defensive errors in the second half – a trademark of Wanderers this season and a team that appears to be in a learning phase going forward – yes you have to maintain possession but when it comes to the final third of the field you need a plan and you need to make things happen and they were sadly lacking in that area last night.
      I thought veteran David Carney had a very good game. He defended quite capably and caused all kinds of problems down the right side of the Wanderers defence which really showed just how frail their defence is. Personally I thought Simon was just taking up space for the most part, and playing the part of the playground pest or bully if you prefer. What it did show was that SFC could have probably played with 10 or even 9 players and still had enough talent to gain a result. Sterner tests will hopefully await in the ACLand by that, I mean I look forward to more games where the team has to do more than go through the motions, or turn up to collect three points.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:11am
        Christo the Daddyo said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:11am | ! Report

        “The grassed car park, quaint as it may be is a nightmare to motorist, pedestrian, police and stewards.”

        The problem is that it’s a sporting field that is commandeered as a car park by the Trust on event days. And they can build the fanciest stadium in the world, but that won’t change the car parking situation in the slightest.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:19am
          Buddy said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:19am | ! Report

          Agreed unless there is a much better plan. If you have witnessed the chaos of the last few decades, and lets face it, there have been times where the stadium and the SCG have been both in ise at the same time and that causes pandemonium, then surely as a part of the rebuild, there should be consideration given to making changes. The new stadium in Perth is quite an interesting case in point. There are no car parks anywhere near the stadium so no traffic nightmares there. They have designed it to bring people by public transport. Assuming they have made rail links and bus stations large enough to cope with 50-60.000 visitors, they will have done a good job. All that is needed really is to look at what has taken place, what is needed and apply best practice and there might just be a solution. If that isn’t the case, all that will happen is they build a new stadium and repeat the dose.

          • February 26th 2018 @ 8:35am
            Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:35am | ! Report

            Do you have faith in the New South Wales government to sort out the transport issues ??

            By the way …., does the new Moore Park stadium have a roof ??

            • February 26th 2018 @ 9:01am
              spruce moose said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:01am | ! Report

              If we had faith in the NSW government fixing transport issues, they would not have built a light rail to the east.

              They’d have done the far more sensible thing and built a subway line – including a stop that is right underneath the two stadia instead of it being 250m across football fields.

              The new stadium doesn’t have a roof.

              Shame about the rain, it kept about 10k away from a very entertaining match.

              • February 26th 2018 @ 9:12am
                Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:12am | ! Report

                No roof on the new stadium… maybe they should re think that .

              • February 26th 2018 @ 9:21am
                spruce moose said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:21am | ! Report

                It’s weather…it happens.

                The city barely needs this new stadium, let alone a roof.

            • February 26th 2018 @ 9:30am
              chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:30am | ! Report

              I don’t think a roof has been discussed. This city is screaming out for a proper modern stadium so hopefully we will get what we deserve

      • February 27th 2018 @ 7:43am
        nachos supreme said | February 27th 2018 @ 7:43am | ! Report

        The walk to Central station if you can’t be bothered hopping on the free bus is just soooo onerous.
        Agree that driving is a hassle but it’s not like the train station is a long way off is it?

        • February 27th 2018 @ 8:36am
          chris said | February 27th 2018 @ 8:36am | ! Report

          Yeah that walk is a real pain up the hill.

    • February 26th 2018 @ 7:51am
      Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 7:51am | ! Report

      So FFA only care about what happens in Melbourne and Sydney because a team from Newcastle got a decision in their favour against a team from Brisbane??? A+ B = a slice of cheese.

      Unfortunately work prevented me from seeing much of the Sydney Derby, but the description of Matt the Axe Simon’s performance actually seems to support why he has so many detractors. All work no quality

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:04am
        chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:04am | ! Report

        Fad – I know you think lowly of Matt but to be fair to him he does play a particular role really well. He causes havoc amongst the back 4 and he actually has a fairly decent touch. Yesterdays conditions were perfect for him and he more than did his part in the win. But yes, a striker who rarely scores is obviously a deficient one, but he still has a role to play and he does that really well.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:30am
          Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:30am | ! Report

          Chris, I can actually appreciate the workrate and the role Simon plays for SFC. He’s a spoiler, assigned with the role of upsetting an opponents tempo by way of niggly fouls. He presses and pressurises. He is essentially a defensive forward. Occasionally there is a nice flick or switch of play.

          My issue is more that he is the back up striker for the best team in the country, and that unfortunately is an indictment on our league. At best he should be third choice striker at a team the size of the CCM or Wellington. Not his fault, but I know I’m not the only one who groans when the 70 minute mark comes around and the excellent Bobo is removed.

          I’ve played with against better players at NPL level. And they weren’t dirty thugs always spoiling for a fight.

          • February 26th 2018 @ 9:32am
            chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:32am | ! Report

            Fad agreed. I also have played with better finishers in NPL so surely someone is out there who is on the right side of 25 and should be given a go?

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:12am
        Buddy said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:12am | ! Report

        F- I confess to having a good laugh at the many comments made about Simon on this web site and most visitors make some fairly valid points. However, look at the set up from a different perspective. There is a salary cap in place and let’s not suggest it is being rorted as a starting point. There is a fair amount of talent currently at SFC that has to fit into the jigsaw puzzle so carrying a few veteran players like Matt Simon makes sense to me. We hear all about the fatigue of playing away in the ACL but I saw little sign of it last night. Having Bois fresh to lead the defence and players like Simon and Carney to step in makes good sense. Last night Simon earned his paycheck on nuisance value alone. Normally he is used as a substitute to keep players fresh or stop them losing their legs under the weight of an angry tackle from a team that is on the end of another defeat at the hands of SFC. I honestly believe he is one of the best examples of good man management by a club/coach that you will see anywhere in the game. I am reminded of Liverpool in the mid 70’s when David Fairclough became known as super sub as he was able to make an impact from the bench and was always second fiddle or more likely 3rd or 4th behind the likes of Keegan, Toshack and later Ian Rush and co. Whilst Fairclough may have scored more goals than Matt Simon, the comparison is more about what a good job both players have done in a particular role and Matt Simon has been and continues to play his part and provide a useful contribution at Sydney FC. Make use of the squad that you have, find a purpose for everyone and the squad is happy and performs…… Look around and you see that is not the case at many of Sydnet FC’s rivals.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:19am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:19am | ! Report

          The fatigue factor from the Acl should not be a huge factor for Sydney.
          They are flying home business class , sleeping normally on the way and playing 5 days later . That sounds very doable .

          In regards to Simon . If he is a cheap option to disrupt only , surely there is a young n p l striker in the country or youth team player that could be learning his craft .
          For our future Socceroos coach to think he needs an enforcer as a reserve striker isn’t very encouraging.

          • February 26th 2018 @ 8:38am
            AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:38am | ! Report

            We’ve tried lokolingoy a few times and whilst he’s got pace to burn he’s got the first touch and control of a Clydesdale. For Sydney FCs style of play they need more of a hold and layoff striker as opposed to fast break – so at the moment Simon (as agricultural as he can be) fits that bill better. And yes he doesn’t score but you also have to consider he probably played more minutes last night than he has in last 4-5 months combined.

          • February 26th 2018 @ 1:23pm
            reuster75 said | February 26th 2018 @ 1:23pm | ! Report

            The reason players the like of Matt Simon are preferred over younger players is because clubs are very short sighted and only care about the hear and the now. After Sydney lost the GF to Victory a few years ago Arnold was told by the board he wouldn’t be sacked but he had to get immediate reults the following season. So as much as I dislike GA I don’t blame him for loading up with experience in order to get results, the blame needs to be attached to the directors at Sydney FC. Similar criticisms are made (rightly) of Kevin Muscat not playing the youth, but again we don’t know what his directive from the club has been. With no threat of relegation there is no excuse for clubs not to try and build a side for the longer term and give younger players a chance.

            • February 26th 2018 @ 3:39pm
              Nemesis said | February 26th 2018 @ 3:39pm | ! Report

              “After Sydney lost the GF to Victory a few years ago Arnold was told by the board he wouldn’t be sacked but he had to get immediate reults the following season. ”

              Well, that following season, Arnold’s team was a spectacular failure. Started the season well, then collapsed in a heap to finish 7th.

              As far as I know, he wasn’t sacked.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am
          Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am | ! Report

          Buddy, Fairclough was a goal scoring sub, like Solskjaer. Simon is the antithesis. 40 plus games without a goal

          • February 26th 2018 @ 8:39am
            Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:39am | ! Report

            Solksjaer…. there a name i love ..

            Who put the in the Germans net ……
            Ole Gunnar Solksjaer

            Got a bit carried away then ?

          • February 26th 2018 @ 8:44am
            AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:44am | ! Report

            of those 40 games he’s played about 5-6 games cumulatively in total game time.

            Plus more often when he comes on we have more often than not already have the lead and don’t necessarily need another goal, so the main purpose of a fresh striker at that point is to sprint and harry opposition players off the ball which he does do. I’m not a Matt Simon lover by any means but I’m just trying to be objective in what his role is within the team and how he plays to it. There are a lot of teams in football that plat this way when sending on a striker with 10 to go.

            • February 26th 2018 @ 8:51am
              Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:51am | ! Report

              Agree AG. As I said above he is essentially a defensive forward, brought on to defend a lead, useless if you are chasing a game. Not really what the best club in the country should have as their back up striker?

              • February 26th 2018 @ 10:48am
                punter said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:48am | ! Report

                This unfortunately sums it up perfectly.

                ‘Not really what the best club in the country should have as their back up striker?’

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:49am
        Caltex Ten & SBS support Australian Football said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:49am | ! Report

        Matt, is going to be the first player picked in Bertie’s new look Socceroos team. Come on you Roos in Russia… 🙂

        • February 26th 2018 @ 9:15am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:15am | ! Report

          Simon for the Socceroos….. it would actually be quite amusing to see Simon get stuck into the France and Denmark back 4 .

      • February 26th 2018 @ 10:26am
        Ian said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:26am | ! Report

        It’s not to do with a team from Newcastle.

        It has to do with the ridiculous decisions Brisbane have been on the end of with the VAR. A referee looking at a player being knocked over from behind in the box, plus a VAR review, came up with no foul was committed on a Brisbane player in injury time.
        Shame such a great game had to end that way, for us anyway.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 10:50am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:50am | ! Report

          True

          The Var is a fail,
          the referee probably second guessing whether to make a decision or leave it to the var

          I hope the var goes away

          The bunker ruins rugby league and the var is not stopping errors being made by refs .

          • February 26th 2018 @ 4:16pm
            Ian said | February 26th 2018 @ 4:16pm | ! Report

            Yes I remember when the video came in for league. I used to watch it back then. More and more decisions went to the video for review and referees seem to lose the ability to make the decision on the spot even when as a viewer, you can tell there was a try, or not. But let’s go for a review ‘just in case’. Over and over.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 2:22pm
          Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 2:22pm | ! Report

          I agree that Roar should have had a penalty Ian. I was objecting to the logic that the penalty not being given somehow shows that FFA favour teams from Melbourne and Sydney, because Newcastle quite clearly don’t come from either!

          Unless they show favouritism to which ever team is closer to the major capitals, in which case Perth are in trouble!

          • February 26th 2018 @ 4:10pm
            Ian said | February 26th 2018 @ 4:10pm | ! Report

            I understand your point on logic Fadida. I imagine the intention of the point in the article was the focus of the comp is with Sydney and Melbourne at all times. And the rest make up the numbers.

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      February 26th 2018 @ 8:03am
      Grobbelaar said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:03am | ! Report

      He may not score goals these days, and has always been technically bereft, but Simon is and has always been a disruptor, defenders hate his sort the most, and that’s a pretty valuable thing to have in a team.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:40am
        Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:40am | ! Report

        I know another Simon

        Carly Simon

        Your so vain , you probably think this blog is about you , your so vain?

        • February 26th 2018 @ 9:35am
          chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:35am | ! Report

          best to ignore him. Mr AFL isn’t happy about the 25k that turned up on a miserable night in Sydney

    • February 26th 2018 @ 8:11am
      Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:11am | ! Report

      Adrian Mierzejewski is the most exciting player to watch as a neutral. He is easily the standout player every week, in the A league best team .
      You just knew he would score that free kick last night , brilliant, but he really is the conductor on the field , it’s making mr wonder if ninchovic is still playing , so dominant is Adrian.

      Maybe the question should be asked . Is Adrian the best player in the A league era ? Better then Thomas Broich ? Maybe

      Brisbane definitely should have had a penalty, it’s no comfort to Brisbane, but the previous week topper- Stanley was incorrectly penalised . I thought the var erred horribly on a jade north tackle which should have been a send off or at least a second yellow, but that’s the var , it’s not working very well…., who would have thought…,

      It was a terrific game where Brisbane had multiple chances to score and Jamie Young denied the jets several times . Riley Magree and Steve Ugarkovic are playing well and covering the loss of kantarovski and Rodriguez. Petratos and Nabbout are still excellent, while O’Donovan is rusty as . Boogard is becoming a fine leader at the back .

      I was disappointed in Rhys Williams, that’s called simulation and he should get a retrospective supspension. Stupidity from the Adelaide player too to slap him … gee Adelaide will not be thrilled with their stuck with Blackwood up front .
      But well played to victory and Leroy George.

      Finally I can’t see what Warren Joyce offers as a manager of Melbourne City , arzani is terrifiic , but Joyce is holding back the team . Good for Perth Glory to get the win and hopefully not the end for Castro .

      With the likelihood of Graham Arnold as Socceroos coach , one has to ask after yesterday…
      Is David Carney the answer to the Socceroos problems at left back ? ?

      A really enjoyable round of A league

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:17am
        chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:17am | ! Report

        “I was disappointed in Rhys Williams, that’s called simulation”
        I do agree Kanga but Williams wont have a case to answer. Contact was made and while he should not have fallen over like he’d been shot, contact was made.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:26am
        Buddy said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:26am | ! Report

        Love your comment about David Carney…I do hope your tongue was nowhere near its natural home! He was made to look good going forward last night by a fairly pedestrian defence and his defensive duties were made slightly easier by Wanderers lack of penetrative thought. They could pass the ball and hold onto it until it came time to consider how to get close to those white things with a net behind them. It was probablt best summed up by The frustrated shot of Bacchus who appeared to be aiming for one of the corporate boxes at the southern end. It was a shot at goal born from the frustration of not knlwing a better route to goal.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am
          AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am | ! Report

          I have never seen a left back be afforded so much space as Carney was last night.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:32am | ! Report

          Yes tongue in cheek comment about Carney.
          I hope the Ginger pele is still left back against the Jets this Saturday, so dimi petratos and Nabbout can take him on .

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:44am
        Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:44am | ! Report

        Ninkovic should have been left out of the ACL, with the wonderful benefit of hindsight

        • February 26th 2018 @ 9:00am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:00am | ! Report

          Fadida

          I’ve just been made aware that ninchovic was involved in all 3 goals .

          So I’ve got that wrong . He was very effective.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 2:10pm
        punter said | February 26th 2018 @ 2:10pm | ! Report

        Great summary Kanga of the weekend, this is the sort of analysis we should be having every week.

        As for Ninko, he is more a touch player, like Carusca, not an all action skilled player like a Broich & Adrian.
        He still plays a very important part of SFC.

    • February 26th 2018 @ 8:30am
      AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:30am | ! Report

      I was on top deck on eastern side last night. We were in row G but would have needed a snorkel to stay there so we moved up to 5 rows from back of top deck (great view for football by the way). Even way up there you still got sprayed every now and then from swirling wind.

      I’ve been going to football and rugby league games since the SFS was built 30 years ago and I don’t recall ever experiencing conditions like last night. That we got 25,000 last night was brilliant.

      As for the game I was just amazed with how easily we won this game. I’m sorry but WSW are so far off the pace right now it’s not funny. For Adrian, Ninko and Bobo to play full games and play the way they did coming off the back of the Shanghai game was amazing (I believe we got business class flights back which no doubt helped recovery). I also thought josh Brillante was excellent.

      Lastly- and this is a serious question not a dig – but what has happened to RBB? Yes it was terrible conditions but seriously I’m used to seeing that end heaving and last night there would have been maybe 3-400 tops?? It seems that this club has gone off the rails during the hiatus from Parramatta. As much as I’m enjoying our dominance I hope this is just temporary for WSW as the league needs a strong WSW.

      I’m also conscious that we are about to become nomads ourselves though I think/hope fans of the club will be ok with kogarah and Leichhardt as alternative home game venues when compared to the 2 Homebush venues WSW have used.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:42am
        Fadida said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:42am | ! Report

        RBB definitely seems to be losing it’s novelty, and I did wonder if it’s related to the ground move. In fact I’m sure it is

        • February 26th 2018 @ 8:49am
          Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:49am | ! Report

          I heard that the RBB let flares off again ??
          True or false … does anybody know

          • February 26th 2018 @ 9:38am
            chris said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:38am | ! Report

            yes they did. No big deal.

          • February 26th 2018 @ 9:45am
            Michael Mills said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:45am | ! Report

            True. They let off at least one, possible two, immediately after they scored.

            • February 26th 2018 @ 9:50am
              Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:50am | ! Report

              I thought they would lose 3 points if they did it again , that’s why,,

              • February 26th 2018 @ 10:12am
                Michael Mills said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:12am | ! Report

                I believe that was a suspended penalty that expired in January.

                Given the FFA has previously acted only when there has been a level of public outrage, I doubt anything will happen this time.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 1:34pm
          Buddy said | February 26th 2018 @ 1:34pm | ! Report

          Fad – everyone equally hates ANZ and Spotless but there are a few other stories that go with this. There appeRs to be old RBB and new and last night with 2 flares being ripped no doubt there were some in there that have not been present this season or have been weeded out or just finally decided to let off steam. At the start they were holding up anti FFA scarves and banners – not sure what you would call them so it came as no surprise when the anti was stepped up later in the first half. The ranks have been thin this season and last night was no exception. On a certain level the club is in a mess. Player turnover, coach turnover lack of perceived loyalty to players, lack of support by club to players – claimed by some, lack of consultation with fans and the whole pain associated with playing somewhere different……. and then this FFA business which I don’t begin to understand let alone explain. Away trips have been far more enjoyable this season, smaller in number but vocal and supportive of the team. There are good times and bad to be had by all but the very elite in sport and sometimes you have to suck it up. I’m fine when I talk to fans who go along, support and make a contribution but I struggle with empty noise that emanates on social media from people whose only allegiance is to Foxtel and their coverage. It just lacks some authenticity although I appreciate not everyone can get to games and not all of the time etc .

      • February 26th 2018 @ 8:47am
        Kangajets said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:47am | ! Report

        It was just inevitable Sydney were going to win , the Jets Facebook page during the game was buzzing about the quality of the bald guy for Sydney being easily the best player in the comp.

        Well Adrian comes to Newcastle next Saturday night… we have the 3 F 18 hornets flying overhead at kickoff , and I’m expecting a 16000 plus crowd. Should be the beginning of a massive Newcastle v Sydney FC rivalry.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 10:52am
          AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:52am | ! Report

          Should be a great game. Really looking forward to it especially after their last match. The Jets deserve good weather so they can get as big a crowd as possible.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 2:12pm
          punter said | February 26th 2018 @ 2:12pm | ! Report

          Looking forward to it, by far best two teams this year.

      • February 26th 2018 @ 9:33am
        Nemesis said | February 26th 2018 @ 9:33am | ! Report

        “I’m sorry but WSW are so far off the pace right now it’s not funny. ”

        Were you following A-League 2 years ago?

        After the match someone asked Gombau how long it would take for WSW to achieve the greatness of SydFC. He simply made the astute observation that these things are cyclical.

        2 years ago, SydFC were well off the pace and finished 7th on the table. WSW missed out on the Premiership by 1 point and were still in with a chance in the Grand Final until Pablo Sanchez put the result beyond doubt at 90′.

        So, I ask: were you watching ALeague 2 years ago?

        PS: In relation to RBB, why not worry about your own supporters? What’s happened to them? This was a SydFC home match, and all ticket revenue goes to SydFC. I know of many MVFC fans who refuse to go to the Away Derby because that’s the only time City gets decent ticket sales & they don’t want to contribute one cent to City.

        • February 26th 2018 @ 10:20am
          AGO74 said | February 26th 2018 @ 10:20am | ! Report

          Re my comment you copied – you realise they include the words “right now”?

          “Right now” means right now and is the context of my comment on WSW – not 2 years ago. Nothing more nothing less.

          As for RBB – given every other Sydney derby has seen the RBB end heaving and last night there was only 3-400 there (albeit in terrible conditions) I somehow doubt it is merely a juvenile gesture at denying Sydney FC money and suggests at something more substantive. Have you seen the size of the RBB at there home games lately?

          • February 26th 2018 @ 11:37am
            Nemesis said | February 26th 2018 @ 11:37am | ! Report

            I’d be willing to wager if WSW were playing at Paramatta Stadium and if WSW were had lost only 2 matches over this season and last, they’d be packing Paramatta Stadium.

            What’s SydFc’s excuse?

            Let’s be honest. This is as good as it can ever be for SydFC fans. You’ve lost 2 matches over the past 2 seasons. If your fans don’t turn up in the best of times, what happens to your club during “worst of times” that will eventually follow?

            Next season SydFC will have to relocate to temporary stadiums. Let’s sit back and watch the stands empty even further.

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              February 26th 2018 @ 2:25pm
              Cousin Claudio said | February 26th 2018 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

              Do you like pulling the wings off flies or cutting the tails off puppies as well .

              maybe lets watch the A-league bounce back next season with a new administration and two new teams getting ready to join.

              Settle down Pip.

            • February 26th 2018 @ 8:46pm
              Evan Askew said | February 26th 2018 @ 8:46pm | ! Report

              They were packing it out when del piero played for them for about 3 or 4 games. Then they pissed off.

              Which goes to show that average people will attend enmasse when big name but over the hill players such as del piero, Heskey, Fowler and juninho rather than quality players such as ninkovic, (red star and dynamo Kiev) Bobo (besiktas) and madzjewski, a polish international who has every chance of going to the world cup. And he’s playing in the A league.

            • February 27th 2018 @ 8:55am
              Post_hoc said | February 27th 2018 @ 8:55am | ! Report

              In June, the Wanderers Academy opens, 12 dedicated fields $16 million, they spoke a little about it on the fox podcast yesterday, how the academy players don’t play in the red and black hoops, how you have to earn that jersey. Clearly the Wanderers owners have no fear that the A league is not going to survive. The Owners have paid for the academy as they see that as establishing the future of the club long term.

              The owners, the board and the management all have long term vision for the club, not all the fans have it. I’ve said it before, more than happy for these bandwagons to leave, when we go to the new stadium my foundation membership gets me better seats that I can hold onto, when the long term vision pays off

              • February 27th 2018 @ 9:46am
                chris said | February 27th 2018 @ 9:46am | ! Report

                PH its amazing that ppl actually think that the A-League is in danger of folding or whatever. Yes it’s had (and will continue to have) issues and problems etc. But the trend is growth. Clubs wanting to enter the league, more money coming into the game and grass roots growing even from a huge base.
                We need change no doubt about that. That will come and potential will be realised.

              • February 27th 2018 @ 9:51am
                Post_hoc said | February 27th 2018 @ 9:51am | ! Report

                100% Chris, more people need to acknowledge it. I think part of the issue is the short turnaround cycles people expect these days. News report last night about one of the last 2 Video rental stores closing, one person commented that it was sad, as it drew people outside made them mingle in their community, but now they just download and watch it at home by themselves.

                It was ‘too much’ effort or took too long to get up go down the road and get something, everything needs to be now.

                There is no antici

              • February 27th 2018 @ 9:51am
                Post_hoc said | February 27th 2018 @ 9:51am | ! Report

                pation

          • February 27th 2018 @ 8:29am
            Post_hoc said | February 27th 2018 @ 8:29am | ! Report

            Juvenile gesture no, but a gesture, I believe Away tickets for the active section were $50, sorry that is just plain wrong.

            I was getting rather frustrated (not surprising) but a few of the comments by the Fox Sydney FC love in commentators, in describing the crowd and how the Wanderers were not providing the supporters. Really? It was a Sydney FC home game, they have been the dominant force for 2 years, lost 2 games in two years, and yet it is expected that the mid table away team is supposed to fill there stadium?

            Home games at Spotless Wanderers get grief for fans not turning up, never a word saying gee isn’t disappointing that the Mariners Fans have not turned up (sorry midfielder not having a go just using it as an example), Commentators never say that, but it was ‘Wanderers’ fault on Sunday night.

            • February 27th 2018 @ 8:34am
              chris said | February 27th 2018 @ 8:34am | ! Report

              PH is that what they were saying about the crowd? i don’t get what the problem is. There were over 35k tickets sold and 25k turned up at the leaky SFS.
              I don’t see the issue there?

              • February 27th 2018 @ 8:46am
                Post_hoc said | February 27th 2018 @ 8:46am | ! Report

                All the comments were about how disappointing the Wanderers end crowd was. But wasn’t a surprise with the two that were in the commentary box.

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