Football will always get a bad rap until it takes control of its own narrative

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    The NRL’s struggles to keep a lid on the Matt Lodge affair highlights just how hard it is to take charge of a narrative spiralling rapidly out of control.

    The footage of Lodge’s terrifying New York rampage makes it hard to understand why the NRL is so determined to focus on the footy at the expense of a family who say they never received an apology from Lodge, let alone a cent of the $AU1.6 million they were awarded in compensation.

    Yet that’s exactly what NRL boss Todd Greenberg has tried to do, writing yesterday for Fairfax that “rugby league has an enemy which threatens to tear us down… the doom merchants”.

    According to Greenberg, it’s not acts like Lodge’s drunken frenzy that give rugby league a bad name, but rather – if I’m following his logic – the journalists who write about it.

    “So often the heroics and athleticism on the field are quickly overshadowed by an agenda, opinion or act which robs the football of the attention it deserves,” Greenberg said.

    What’s that? The leader of a governing body blaming external influences for his code’s own failings? Sound familiar?

    NRL CEO Todd Greenberg

    And before rugby league fans come steaming in to criticise me for writing about the Lodge incident, well, how do you like it when the shoe’s on the other foot?

    Every time there’s an incident of anti-social behaviour at an A-League game – like the RBB ripping flares at the recent Sydney derby – football fans are expected to tolerate an avalanche of commentary from critics with no discernable links to the round-ball game.

    Why? Because that’s the status quo.

    And we have a tendency to do things in Australia just because it’s the way things have always been done.

    Which brings us to the narrative around football, and the way the game’s leaders should be shaping it.

    It was no surprise to see Football Federation Australia announce Graham Arnold as the coach to succeed interim tactician Bert van Marwijk after the World Cup in Russia, with Arnie’s appointment to the top job somewhat of an open secret within the game.

    Letting him take charge after the World Cup not only means Arnold can finish up his club commitments with Sydney FC – for this season, at least – but also begin the long-term process of attempting to defend the Socceroos’ Asian Cup crown.

    And by announcing it yesterday – two days after van Marwijk named his first Socceroos squad – FFA ensured it received some positive coverage in a week when the split round means there are only two A-League games to be played this Saturday.

    That’s not the worst move on a weekend when the return of the NRL means wall-to-wall mainstream media coverage of rugby league will inevitably resume.

    Try pointing out that the A-League seems to be held to different standards than the NRL, though, and you’ll invite your own torrent of criticism – even from football fans.

    That’s essentially what happened to Simon Hill in midweek, after he ruffled more than a few feathers on the Fox Football podcast by pointing out that while diving in football is pilloried for being unmanly, the bad behaviour of players from other sports rarely seems to result in their codes being tarnished as a whole.

    I wasn’t surprised by Hill’s comments because I had a beer with him last week and we talked at length about this very issue.

    Nor was I surprised that certain parties were so keen to shut down the conversation.

    As football fans we’re so conditioned to not rock the boat, that we’d rather remain silent about being treated like second-class citizens than risk getting offside with a mainstream Australia which already has zero interest in the game.

    It’s about time we recognised this for the problem that it is – not least as a precursor to demanding football’s leaders do a better job of defending our game.

    Because if football fails to write its own narratives, then those with their own ulterior motives will simply step in and write them for us.

    Mike Tuckerman
    Mike Tuckerman

    Mike Tuckerman is a Sydney-born journalist and lifelong football fan. After lengthy stints watching the beautiful game in Germany and Japan, he settled in Brisbane, and has been a leading Roar football columnist since December 2008.

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    • Roar Rookie

      March 9th 2018 @ 7:31am
      Waz said | March 9th 2018 @ 7:31am | ! Report

      Really well said Mike.

      And as NRL are finding, you can’t control the message when there’s a big, ugly message running across the back pages and so it’s not just pumping out “positive stories”.

      Any narrative starts at the top and must meet and be endorsed by all levels of the game. Something that a fractured football community will find difficult to do, so the starting point is not broadcasting “your message” but open and genuine communication to understand all parties and find common ground the majority agree upon.

      • Roar Guru

        March 9th 2018 @ 8:27am
        AdelaideDocker said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:27am | ! Report

        Very true.

        I feel as if there’s certain narratives the fans wanna portray, which are in turn different to the clubs and especially the overarching leadership. That’ll mean there’s no unified narratives that will ever be accurately broadcasted.

        I feel the big thing that needs to happen is that aforementioned leadership need to start from a clean slate – they’ve got to broadcast a much better narrative than right now. They’ve gotta get their marketing skills down pat, and actually start advertising the game for what it is: a very good, technical sport that is great to watch (usually!).

        That’s something that the AFL can do really well; ‘spin’ the news cycles back to upcoming games/contests whenever something scandalous hits the press. I understand there’s a apparent inherent disadvantage given the somewhat negative view of the game in the media, but the media’s view is largely developed around off-field stuff like the boardroom level chaos and fan behaviour; if the FFA reshapes the narrative around the game itself, that could lead to better coverage.

        Don’t attack me for any of this, by the way – just a few thoughts from my early morning brain, plus I’ve been sitting in media lectures the whole week.

        • March 9th 2018 @ 8:51am
          Fadida said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:51am | ! Report

          I always enjoy your comments AD but I think you’re missing an important detail here; the AFL can “spin the news cycle” because in places like Melbourne the media is little more than an extension of AFL HQ.

          It’s like trying to understand racism when you’re white

          • March 9th 2018 @ 9:34am
            Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:34am | ! Report

            Ageee fadida

          • Roar Guru

            March 9th 2018 @ 9:45am
            AdelaideDocker said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:45am | ! Report

            Yeah, fair call. Great analogy, as well.

            I didn’t say it would be easy for the FFA to garner media support, but regardless of what the AFL is doing, the FFA can still drastically improve their marketing/PR department. There’s virtually no advertising, which I think we can universally agree is a bad thing, and they appear to be unable to take attention away from whatever off-field controversy that is the scandal of the week.

            I don’t deny the AFL can do this effortlessly in Victoria, but there’s still a lot of attention brought upon soccer in the Eastern states, yes? The FFA has to reshape the narrative, and get some positive attention out there in their biggest markets. Yet they appear to be making no effort to, yeah, and surely that ain’t good.

            I might be wrong on this, and that’s fine. Just my thoughts.

          • March 9th 2018 @ 10:30am
            Perry Bridge said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:30am | ! Report

            #Fadida

            They can and they can’t.

            There’s the sports journos.

            And then there’s the ‘news’ journos.

            The ‘news’ journos for example dedicated several pages to a silly 21 year old Collingwood player blowing over 0.05 (granted, as a P plater his limit was 0.00). The contrast being that precious little was said about 3AW brekkie co-host John Burns finally admitting he’d been done DUI for a second time.

            The AFL and Collingwood would much prefer that the media didn’t make such a big deal about a 21 yr old who is in need of making better decisions (clearly – but, hardly unique in that age range).

            The reality is all codes have ‘friends’ in the media.

            The irony is when you say “places like Melbourne the media is little more than an extension of AFL HQ”, and yet ignore that most media is nationally based out of Sydney now, and that for most of the last 20 years the NRL was half owned by two media corporations (NewsCorp and Telstra) and several clubs were fully owned by NewsCorp.

            What you find though – is that in the AFL and NRL that there are MORE ‘voices’ jockeying to be heard. There’s generally some other angle, or the next breaking story. However – even in the AFL during the season the speculation about player X who is yet to renew his contract (last year Dustin Martin, this year Tom Lynch) or the future of coach Y (last year Rocket Eade, Nathan Buckley) this year (Nathan Buckley, Brad Scott)…..these sorts of sideshow stories can dominate because you can effectively write the content 3 months in advance (a bit like the obituary for the Queen – it’s ready to go when required).

            • March 9th 2018 @ 11:59am
              Fadida said | March 9th 2018 @ 11:59am | ! Report

              Fair points both Perry and AD

        • March 9th 2018 @ 8:53am
          Post_hoc said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:53am | ! Report

          The AFL can do that, because they have friends in the media. They pretty much control all the ‘footy’ journalists in the Herald Sun, so many of them make their bread and butter from being on the inside so they can’t rock the boat. They are basically bought and paid for.

          The only real example of one who isn’t I would argue is the journalist from the Age, Caroline something? The one who all those AFL boof heads wanted to drown a few years back. Why did they want to drown her? Because she showed them up by doing what they all should be doing every day of the year.

          The AFL controls the spin, because they have bought and paid for journalists, no need for a media department thern

          • March 9th 2018 @ 8:59am
            AGO74 said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:59am | ! Report

            Agree with yourself and Fad on this.

          • Roar Guru

            March 9th 2018 @ 9:47am
            AdelaideDocker said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:47am | ! Report

            Just for the record, I despise the Herald Sun and I dislike how comfortably close they are to the AFL. That’s why forums like this one are brilliant; there’s a disconnect between here and whatever sport, leading to more balanced reporting/opinions.

          • March 9th 2018 @ 3:23pm
            BigAl said | March 9th 2018 @ 3:23pm | ! Report

            What about Patrick Smith – is he still about ?

            He always enjoyed twisting the knife into the AFL.

            • March 9th 2018 @ 3:58pm
              Aligee said | March 9th 2018 @ 3:58pm | ! Report

              Patrick Smith twisted the knife on the behest of the AFL into James Hird and Essendon for about 2/3 years despite him being proven conclusively wrong about his conclusions.

            • March 10th 2018 @ 7:25am
              AR said | March 10th 2018 @ 7:25am | ! Report

              Patrick Smith is probably the sharpest sports writer in the country.

              And he disembowels the AFL at every opportunity.

              It’s fantastic.

          • March 9th 2018 @ 3:56pm
            Aligee said | March 9th 2018 @ 3:56pm | ! Report

            “The AFL can do that, because they have friends in the media. They pretty much control all the ‘footy’ journalists in the Herald Sun, so many of them make their bread and butter from being on the inside so they can’t rock the boat. They are basically bought and paid for.”

            @posthoc,

            When do you think it has been any different at any time anywhere in the world ?, people have to tow company lines everywhere to keep a roof over their head and some beer on the weekend.

            You are just upset, because it is not soccer in the same position, wouldn’t hear a murmur out of you if the positions were reversed.

            • March 9th 2018 @ 4:05pm
              Post_hoc said | March 9th 2018 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

              Aligee, I suspect you have a lot of growing up to do in this life I was going to give you a lesson in what a Journalist once was, a person who sought truth, but such a lesson seems to be wasted on such a child as you. If you don’t like what we say here on the AFL, the AFL tab is 3 to the left. You can stay there, because you offer nothing anywhere else.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 4:14pm
                Aligee said | March 9th 2018 @ 4:14pm | ! Report

                Well it is a possibility of course that once upon a time journalists were fair and impartial, presented both sides of the story and did not do their owners and ultimate suppliers of their roofing, food and water biddings.

                Children and it appears some adults do believe in fairy tales.

                If you don’t like what i say on here, go to some soccer specific site, i promise i wont follow.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 4:53pm
                Post_hoc said | March 9th 2018 @ 4:53pm | ! Report

                But this is a football specific tab, it says so on top, but you have no interest in Football, you just want to talk about AFL. So take a walk 3 tabs to the left.

                You offer nothing but defence of AFL, we are not interested.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 5:18pm
                Aligee said | March 9th 2018 @ 5:18pm | ! Report

                You were the one that bought up the AFL and how unfair (LOL) it is, i can post anywhere i want at any time, you posted yesterday on a article I WROTE regarding the Barassi line http://www.theroar.com.au/2018/03/05/does-the-barassi-line-mean-anything-anymore/, i think you made half a dozen posts or so, i wouldnt stop you from posting anywhere and saying anything you want quite frankly, i welcome all comments, comments that differentiate our country from plenty that dont have free speech.

                So if we look at all that, your post here telling other people not to post on ‘your’ tab is 100% hypocritical, yet you tell other people to they need to grow up.

                you are a sook.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 5:59pm
                Nemesis said | March 9th 2018 @ 5:59pm | ! Report

                Does “the Barassi line” refer to VPL that is formed if men wear hot-pants & try a Swan Lake style high kick?

              • March 9th 2018 @ 6:04pm
                Aligee said | March 9th 2018 @ 6:04pm | ! Report

                Feel free to read and add any comments you want, i am sure like plenty of your other comments they will be informed and respectful!.

              • March 12th 2018 @ 8:13am
                Ac said | March 12th 2018 @ 8:13am | ! Report

                But this is the soccer tab so why are you getting stuck into the AFL ?

        • March 9th 2018 @ 9:32am
          Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:32am | ! Report

          Legit question I reckon this …….If the afl spins the media so well, why is the afl only popular in 35 per cent of Australia. ….While 65 percent of Australia is indifferent to afl ? The spin doctors are not doing much outside of 3 cities .

          While we here , What do you think about the Adelaide reds new owner?
          Cheers

          • March 9th 2018 @ 10:45am
            Perry Bridge said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:45am | ! Report

            #Kangajets

            Point 1. where are most of the national media now based – Sydney.

            Point 2. which media outlets have been most invested in sport and which sport? the NRL (was half owned by NewsCorp, plus several clubs post SuperLeague days 20 years back).

            Point 3. I’m not sure about your 35:65 breakdown. However, if we base attendances and club members as a metric – the 35% with whom the AFL has popularity are far more engaged than those in your other 65% are with whatever they find popular.

            Basically – I reckon the AFL tries to but doesn’t always succeed at media spin BUT they have a big internal department and appear the most progressed toward media independence.

            The AFL are seen to be closely in bed with the Herald-Sun by some here – however – I’d suggest that the Herald-Sun is both friend and enemy. It’s no marriage – it’s more like a China-US relationship – in part symbiotic and in part on the verge of open warfare. The H-S is in it for what it can get out of it. A newspaper doesn’t have broadcast rights to worry about – however – it seems fair to suggest that they do owe much of their presence in the ‘new media’ landscape to the AFL – increased sales during winter.

            • March 9th 2018 @ 12:27pm
              Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:27pm | ! Report

              Perry

              North Melbourne athletic have a football team in Victoria, do you follow them or Melbourne Victory?

              Or city ?

              • March 9th 2018 @ 2:02pm
                Perry Bridge said | March 9th 2018 @ 2:02pm | ! Report

                I follow Football.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 4:06pm
                Post_hoc said | March 9th 2018 @ 4:06pm | ! Report

                All of it? How do you manage to do that and still be so ill informed?

            • March 10th 2018 @ 4:55pm
              Kangajets said | March 10th 2018 @ 4:55pm | ! Report

              Perry

              Fair enough. Probably more 25:75 breakdown in reality

              Apologies

    • March 9th 2018 @ 7:48am
      chris said | March 9th 2018 @ 7:48am | ! Report

      “As football fans we’re so conditioned to not rock the boat, that we’d rather remain silent about being treated like second-class citizens than risk getting offside with a mainstream Australia which already has zero interest in the game.”
      Speak for yourself Mike!

      • March 9th 2018 @ 11:59am
        Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 11:59am | ! Report

        appeasing draconian authority doesn’t sit well with most Australians .

        Just sit there and clap quietly, don’t bang a drum , don’t bring a flag .., make sure your banner is approved , don’t stand up , don’t sing. …. that all sounds a bit like tennis fans .

        • March 9th 2018 @ 12:30pm
          chris said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:30pm | ! Report

          KJ not sure if you remember a few years ago at the Wimbledon final where the rain cancelled the match between Hewitt and Ivanisovic? Well tix went on sale to the general public for the match to be replayed the next day.
          Wow…what a difference a day makes! The aussies and croat fans were absolutely rocking the place with chants and flags etc. And the match was a beauty.
          Thats what its all about!

          • March 9th 2018 @ 12:38pm
            Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

            Yep
            The proper fans , not the prawn sandwich people.

            I think it was pat rafter though and I am still grieving that he didn’t win a Wimbledon

            • March 9th 2018 @ 1:03pm
              chris said | March 9th 2018 @ 1:03pm | ! Report

              Hmm yes! It was Pat. The point is the real fans got to go and what a difference they made.

      • Columnist

        March 9th 2018 @ 12:04pm
        Mike Tuckerman said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:04pm | ! Report

        Hah! We should probably form a union.

    • March 9th 2018 @ 7:56am
      Midfielder said | March 9th 2018 @ 7:56am | ! Report

      Brilliant at a seminar so out for most of the day so can only leave a brief message of support.

    • March 9th 2018 @ 8:15am
      Rolly said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:15am | ! Report

      Greenberg and the media can continue to back a creep like lodge .the media shows its dispicable bias . when media companies have vested interest in certain sport like seven and the afl and nine and league and nws limited wih league the media will always show bias towards its own sports which it has invested money in .hence that grub lodge not copping the media backlash becuase it’s not in the media interest .in saying that Greenberg has egg on his face now as lodge the grub has alienated al lot of families from that sport and proven to be a failure on the pitch .football will just have to take it on the chin from the media and continue to evolve and eventually the media will come round .

      • March 9th 2018 @ 12:57pm
        Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:57pm | ! Report

        I don’t think nrl has fully been accepted since super league either

    • March 9th 2018 @ 8:20am
      AR said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:20am | ! Report

      What a fantastically ironic lesson in irony this morning’s offering is.

      First, despite suggesting that football control its own narrative and be not towed by ‘msm’ negativity, Mike digs up the flare story from 2 weeks ago and eagerly breathes life into it. Brilliant.

      Second, Mike rightly mocks the daft comments of Greenberg – “So often the heroics and athleticism on the field are quickly overshadowed by an agenda, opinion or act which robs the football of the attention it deserves,”. And yet, after stripping his criticism of any credibility with the inane “aha the shoe’s on the other foot” comment, Mike doubles down to mimic Greenberg’s cynical complaint. Oh the joys.

      In a quiet week, I’d say the only story is Arnold or maybe an already-done puff piece on the Jets.

      I’ll of course leave it to the Experts, but here’s a tip: if you want soccer and the ALeague to truly chart it’s own course, stop shoe-horning the NRL, AFL, or nasty Aussie media into “your” narrative every time you pick up a pen.

      Have a great Friday.

      • Columnist

        March 9th 2018 @ 9:30am
        Mike Tuckerman said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:30am | ! Report

        “Sit down and shut up,” being your preference for how football navigates its way through the media landscape, right?

        • March 9th 2018 @ 9:53am
          Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:53am | ! Report

          Mike

          It must be a capital city thing , before I joined this forum a year ago, I had no idea there were code war things in the media .. my football narrative was talking about the game with my mates who attend jets games , who are basically all Aussie rules players in Newcastle.. this has been a bizarre experience learning about media code agenda . It’s much easier to think for myself then read some Mrlbourne or Sydney paper …

          • March 12th 2018 @ 1:56pm
            Cugel said | March 12th 2018 @ 1:56pm | ! Report

            Just the run of the mill soccer persecution complex – “soccer isn’t as popular here as overseas, must be somebody else’s fault”

      • March 9th 2018 @ 9:37am
        Nemesis said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:37am | ! Report

        The one aspect where Football – and particularly A-League football – leads the way in Australia is …

        Even

        a) people who hate our sport; and
        b) people who have minimal interest in our sport; and
        c) people who don’t watch ALeague

        continue to want to engage in discussions about ALeague.

        I had a quick glance at the AFL Discussion Board recently. I did not see a single comment from people who don’t watch AFL.

        Yet, for our crap, low quality ALeague .. everyone wants to be part of the discussion.

        • March 9th 2018 @ 10:28am
          Kris said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:28am | ! Report

          Perhaps many people watch multiple codes and are comfortable commenting on many sports. In contrast perhaps there are some paranoid fans locked in a code-war mentality who decide that there are proper football fans and imposters?

          Perhaps many fans follow and AFL team and the Storm and the Victory and the Melbourne Tigers and the Melbourne Renegades etc etc. In contrast perhaps there are some football fans who follow the CCM to the exclusion of all us and get militant at any thought that a football fan is not exclusive and obsessed?

          • March 9th 2018 @ 10:41am
            Nemesis said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:41am | ! Report

            Given hard core ALeague fans & hardcore grassroots football fans don’t watch ALeague in significant numbers, common sense indicates casual fans don’t watch ALeague.

            Casual fans are deemed “casual” because they pick to watch certain events. The crowds & TV ratings this season for Marquee ALeague Matches indicates loyal fans are not even watching in the same numbers, so you’re delusional if you think casual fans are watching ALeague each weekend.

            • March 9th 2018 @ 11:44am
              reuster75 said | March 9th 2018 @ 11:44am | ! Report

              You may be surprised to know that people have the capacity to be a hardcore fan of more than one team, and indeed of more than one sport. I know plenty of people who love football and attend all their a-league team’s games, socceroos and matildas games, and love watching any football match that’s on TV. These same people also love AFL and also attend as many of their side’s games as they can, some even live interstate and so gather with likeminded fans to watch games at the pub. A lot of these people also enjoy watching cricket and try and go to at least one day’s play in a test or a limited overs game. This doesn’t make them casual fans and doesn’t make them any less committed than fans who only follow one team/sport to the exclusion of all others.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 1:51pm
                Nemesis said | March 9th 2018 @ 1:51pm | ! Report

                So, how is this any way relevant to my comment?

                My comment was specifically directed at people, who tell us they don’t watch ALeague because the quality is crap.

                If you’re watching ALeague regularly, my comment was not directed at you.

            • March 9th 2018 @ 12:16pm
              Vennegor of Tarsus said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:16pm | ! Report

              I on the other hand don’t know many cross code people that attend A league regularly, Just saying

              • March 9th 2018 @ 12:44pm
                Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:44pm | ! Report

                Venegor

                Yeah well abt 20 players from my afl club go to watch Newcastle Jets gsmes .
                Just saying

              • March 9th 2018 @ 3:59pm
                Fadida said | March 9th 2018 @ 3:59pm | ! Report

                I know plenty in Newcastle too

              • March 9th 2018 @ 1:49pm
                Nemesis said | March 9th 2018 @ 1:49pm | ! Report

                “I on the other hand don’t know many cross code people that attend A league regularly.”

                So you agree with me. The Casual Cross Code ALeague fan is a myth.

              • March 9th 2018 @ 9:58pm
                Vennegor of Tarsus said | March 9th 2018 @ 9:58pm | ! Report

                @Nemesis 100% i agree with you

          • March 9th 2018 @ 11:46am
            chris said | March 9th 2018 @ 11:46am | ! Report

            Kris – posters like AD (who has AFL as his main passion) make sensible comments which agree or disagree, at least he isn’t here to annoy and disrupt like all the other “casual” sports fans.
            That’s the distinction and where posters like AR and Mr AFL will never be taken seriously on here.

          • Roar Guru

            March 9th 2018 @ 2:18pm
            apaway said | March 9th 2018 @ 2:18pm | ! Report

            No one follows the Storm. They are the original rent-a-crowd team.

            • March 12th 2018 @ 8:17am
              Ac said | March 12th 2018 @ 8:17am | ! Report

              Over 20,000 members. Tv audience the a league would die for, average crowd 17,000 I think your a little out about the Storm.

        • March 10th 2018 @ 7:24am
          AR said | March 10th 2018 @ 7:24am | ! Report

          “Nemesis” resides in a binary world where True Believers and the philistine casuals are locked in a black and white battle over “Football” – yes, that very word.

          Kind of like dungeons and dragons I imagine.

          The rest of us lead regular lives, follow a bunch of sports, and occasionally post comments on opinion sites like this one.

          • March 11th 2018 @ 7:42am
            Fadida said | March 11th 2018 @ 7:42am | ! Report

            Never a truer word AR

      • March 9th 2018 @ 10:00am
        chris said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:00am | ! Report

        Mike AR is one of the posters on here that you just need to scroll past.

        • March 10th 2018 @ 12:22pm
          AR said | March 10th 2018 @ 12:22pm | ! Report

          And yet you never can.

          Why is that?

      • March 9th 2018 @ 12:42pm
        Post_hoc said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:42pm | ! Report

        AR, Mike mentioned it, didn’t ‘breath life into it it’barely a mention of it elsewhere’ what are you trying to get at?

    • March 9th 2018 @ 8:23am
      Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 8:23am | ! Report

      You guys need to move to Newcastle

      24 hours before the nrl season and the Newcastle Jets are filling the back page and every other social media is Jets too.

      Regional media will support A league football if you give them a team

      Think. Wollongong. Geelong Canberra Hobart etc

      There are capital city teams already

      My narrative is expand to the people who do care …

      • March 9th 2018 @ 10:47am
        Pauly said | March 9th 2018 @ 10:47am | ! Report

        That back page showing Boogard walking off with a broken leg juxtaposed with Bujis rolling around was classic. NH building up an “us vs the big city” narrative while at the same time showing that footballers can be tough if they play for the local team.

        • March 9th 2018 @ 12:15pm
          Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:15pm | ! Report

          Exactly

          And that is good journalism , having a bit of fun with the enemy..( Sydney)) , and showing how the game can be supported by mainstream media without hostility all the time .

      • March 9th 2018 @ 12:49pm
        Kangajets said | March 9th 2018 @ 12:49pm | ! Report

        Looking at my above comment, I do know that Canberra and Hobart are capital cities 😂

        I meant to say there enough teams in the big capitals eg Sydney and Melbourne.

        Mid north coast of New South Wales is another good nursery of footballers who don’t have a national team in any sport .

        Red bull North Coast has a nice ring to it . 😁

        Expand the A league.

      • Roar Guru

        March 9th 2018 @ 2:21pm
        apaway said | March 9th 2018 @ 2:21pm | ! Report

        Kangajets

        Spot on. This supposed support for the Southern Expansion is courting disaster. The Wollongong Wolves are ready to go, have a history, a club, a team, passion, a stadium and fans.

        • Roar Guru

          March 10th 2018 @ 8:47am
          Griffo said | March 10th 2018 @ 8:47am | ! Report

          +1 Apaway

          Expecting a team’s reach to cover an area on paper to bump up a reach metric and Wollongong to just be happy to go when a team is based up the road somewhere seems natural, doesn’t it.

      • March 10th 2018 @ 5:46am
        concerned supporter said | March 10th 2018 @ 5:46am | ! Report

        Kangajets,
        You are a rival to nemests, as far as your blinkered views are concerned. You said,
        “24 hours before the nrl season and the Newcastle Jets are filling the back page and every other social media is Jets too.”
        24 hours after the game what happened ?
        1/ Nearly a full house.
        2/ Drama galore, golden point game.
        3/ Mitchell Pearce kicks winning field goal in extra time.
        4/ Newcastle, wooden spooners, beat more fancied Manly.
        I doubt that Newcastle Jets will be mentioned to day, it will be all Newcastle Knights.

        • March 10th 2018 @ 4:34pm
          Kangajets said | March 10th 2018 @ 4:34pm | ! Report

          Concerned support
          And what is your point
          Yeah I watched it. The knights deserve the accolades for winning. I’m capable of enjoying other sports. 👍

          Next ?

          • March 10th 2018 @ 4:53pm
            Kangajets said | March 10th 2018 @ 4:53pm | ! Report

            Concerned support
            Thanks again for the support
            The point was in fair media circles. Football and NRL both get good measure of coverage .

            That’s great you think I’m a rival of nem Means I’m talking sense

            Enjoy your weekend. It’s a damn good one in beautiful Newcastle.. winners galore here

          • March 11th 2018 @ 8:18am
            concerned supporter said | March 11th 2018 @ 8:18am | ! Report

            Kangajets,
            “I’m capable of enjoying other sports.”
            Careful what you admit, Monsignor Nemesis may give you six cuts of the cane for heresy.

            • March 11th 2018 @ 8:39am
              Kangajets said | March 11th 2018 @ 8:39am | ! Report

              😁

      • March 12th 2018 @ 8:19am
        Ac said | March 12th 2018 @ 8:19am | ! Report

        23;000 first nrl match ch at ghastly 6pm time slot. So glad the media social media too boot was all about Jets. Anyway that’s good for them.

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