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    David Pocock has shown his immense worth to Australian rugby with a heroic Wallabies return at Suncorp Stadium to help end a 15-month Irish unbeaten streak.

    Influential in attack and defence, Pocock was the undoubted star for the Australians who upset the Six Nations champions 18-9 on Saturday night in front of 46,273 fans.

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    The Wallabies were outstanding in defence, as the Irish dominated possession and territory, but could not cross the line to boost their string of 12-straight wins.

    Australia scored the only two tries of what was tough and torrid first Test, but should have had a third when cruelly denied amid huge controversy.

    Down 9-8 in the 60th minute, the Suncorp Stadium crowd were in raptures when Israel Folau finished a scintillating movement started by a rib-rattling Samu Kerevi hit that forced a midfield turnover.

    But their celebrations were short-lived as South African referee Marius Van Der Westhuizen overturned the try due to a meaningless backplay incident in which lock Adam Coleman tackled decoy James Ryan, who was Ireland’s best on the night.

    Fans from both nations were bewildered by the decision and former Wallabies captain and commentator Phil Kearns voiced the opinion of many by exclaiming “this referee has lost the plot”.

    But the Wallabies were able to maintain their composure and their scrum – led by the front-row reserves – forced a key penalty near the line for Bernard Foley to kick Australia to an 11-9 lead.

    With Folau leaping high and Will Genia kicking truly in two big plays that forced another penalty, Pocock barged over to reward the call for a quick tap with eight minutes left.

    The flanker, who last played Test rugby 18 months ago before enjoying a sabbatical, consistently relieved pressure for the home side with turnovers and ruck penalties as the Irish racked up countless phases.

    The first half was littered by an array of bone-rattling hits on the tourists, particularly halfback Conor Murray who battled throughout after he was ironed out early by Marika Koroibete and Kurtley Beale.

    Coleman was immense in the collision zone while Beale looked dangerous in attack, although he and his teammates too often kicked it away.

    Australia’s lineout struggled with debutant hooker Brandon Paenga-Amosa losing three throws.

    But the Six Nations champions went to halftime trailing for the first time this year after Foley started and finished a brilliant backline try in the 35th minute for an 8-6 lead.

    With Rob Henshaw rushing out of the defensive line, Foley’s quick hands put Dane Haylett-Petty and Kerevi in space and Genia was able to shovel it out quickly for the flyhalf to score in the corner.

    No.8 CJ Stander should have put Ireland back in the lead just after the break when put into the clear by Ryan but he was run down and held up by Koroibete and Haylett-Petty.

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    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:12pm
      riddler said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:12pm | ! Report

      congrats oz players and the coaching staff..

      great win.. loved it..

      awesome stuff..

      • Roar Guru

        June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm
        The Saint said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm | ! Report

        Well done Wallabies. A good win. Congratulations.

      • Roar Guru

        June 9th 2018 @ 11:26pm
        Kia Kaha said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:26pm | ! Report

        Great performance from Pocock. A real tight battle so well done to the Wallabies for maintaining discipline and composure. Congrats. Looking forward to the second test.

    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:15pm
      Sylvester said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:15pm | ! Report

      Good win for the Wallabies. Attack from both sides was very lacklustre against a fairly basic defensive strategies.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm
        Bing said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm | ! Report

        Let me guess, an ABs supporter?

        • Roar Guru

          June 9th 2018 @ 11:02pm
          PeterK said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:02pm | ! Report

          some of them can’t help themselves when they see wallaby supporters happy about a hard fought win against the odds, no they have to try and dampen the mood.

          • June 9th 2018 @ 11:24pm
            Reverse Wheel said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:24pm | ! Report

            No dampening tonight.

            That last 30 for nz was pretty darn impressive. I said when the frog got the yellow that it was game over but i didn’t anticipate such a rout.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 6:15am
            Coconut said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:15am | ! Report

            So PeterK, just ignore the three comments from kiwi supporters that preceded it and focus on the one that suits your own narrative… nice one mate. You should take a look at all the trolls over on the AB thread busily trying to diminish a very convincing win by them to put things in perspective for you. I’m just happy all three SANZAR countries won their games against their NH counterparts this weekend. Congrats to Australia, this was the confidence building win they needed.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:16am
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:16am | ! Report

              Look at the times and his was the first Kiwi comment (unless Ridller is a kiwi).

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:53am
              Mark Richmond said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:53am | ! Report

              There are 4 teams in Sanzaar nowadays, happy to say my boyos overcame the Pumas this morning. 😀

            • June 10th 2018 @ 11:24pm
              double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:24pm | ! Report

              I have Fantasies of there being a Kiwi Roar so kiwi posters can post in Kiwi land and leave us alone.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:34pm
                Corne Van Vuuren said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:34pm | ! Report

                You will be bored out of your skull, imagine a bunch of Aussies regurgitating the same stuff every day 😉

              • June 11th 2018 @ 5:37am
                Cliff Bishkek said | June 11th 2018 @ 5:37am | ! Report

                No Corne – we would still have you!! Ha! Ha! Boredom shattered!!

          • June 10th 2018 @ 8:26am
            timber said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:26am | ! Report

            And even in the midst of celebrations PeterK can’t help but display the huge chip he has on his shoulder regarding anything Kiwi.
            Sylvester’s point was valid, not everybody needs to be a cheerleader.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 9:58am
              Ben said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:58am | ! Report

              But PeterK will always deny hes anti kiwi….

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:18am
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:18am | ! Report

              the first kiwi comment for a very good wallaby game and it has to be critical, like I said it SOME can’t help themselves..

              • June 10th 2018 @ 11:26pm
                double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:26pm | ! Report

                PK is right.

        • June 9th 2018 @ 11:35pm
          Sylvester said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:35pm | ! Report

          Both backlines were quite flat, and there was very little variation. There’s no doubting though that this was a significant win for the Wallabies. No spirit dampening intended.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 8:48am
            Drongo said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:48am | ! Report

            So according to you a flat backline = lacklustre attacking strategy? Maybe against a French side with 20 unavailable the attack could show more ‘lustre’?

            • June 10th 2018 @ 11:16am
              Sylvester said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:16am | ! Report

              The flat backline is a good strategy – if you mix it up by going to deep players out the back to open up the space. I didn’t see much of that from either team. Attack was very average.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:19am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:19am | ! Report

                wallabies had multiple attack lines and waves often, beale out the back, they did mix it up.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 4:04pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:04pm | ! Report

                Yeah they did. This conversation is a bit weird, feel like he’s talking about a different game.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 3:52am
        MH01 said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:52am | ! Report

        Who got the Oscar in the ABs game ? Ben smith ? At least Ireland and oz played the game without diving ….

        • June 10th 2018 @ 6:58am
          Ben said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:58am | ! Report

          Your credibility goes straight out the window when Ben Smith wasnt even involved in that yellow card. It was Crotty.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 7:21am
            taylorman said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:21am | ! Report

            Some of them just cant help themselves a great man once said😆

            • June 10th 2018 @ 8:51am
              Drongo said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:51am | ! Report

              We have all noticed how the Wallaby win has shut you up.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 10:26am
                taylorman said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:26am | ! Report

                Has it? Posted more than you on hiw good it was. Read drongo. I wanted oz to win, said so before the match and praised them after. Poor comment, befits the commenter. DRONGO😆

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:20am
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:20am | ! Report

              very true aussies have their fair share as well

          • June 10th 2018 @ 8:54am
            Drongo said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:54am | ! Report

            The name on the card was wrong?

      • Roar Guru

        June 10th 2018 @ 10:40am
        rebel said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:40am | ! Report

        Agree with Ireland, disapointed with their attack. Aus was more creative.

    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:16pm
      Ouch said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:16pm | ! Report

      Bloody great after all the negativity and doomsday scenarios being offered about the past week.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm
        riddler said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm | ! Report

        agree 100%

        lets enjoy the win !!

    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm
      KenoathCarnt said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:17pm | ! Report

      Great game nearly overruled by the refs really. I hope every game isnt refd like that it was rediculous and nearly cost the Wallabies a well deserved win.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:18pm
        Reverse Wheel said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:18pm | ! Report

        I just couldn’t work out his breakdown interpretations. I’m sure there was some rhyme or reason to it but it just seemed so inconsistent.

        • June 9th 2018 @ 10:22pm
          jameswm said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:22pm | ! Report

          He only penalised us for coming in the side. And off feet

          • June 9th 2018 @ 10:27pm
            Reverse Wheel said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:27pm | ! Report

            And not releasing. On attack and defense.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 8:31am
            timber said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:31am | ! Report

            Nonsense, even in victory you can’t help playing the victim narrative.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 4:06pm
              Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:06pm | ! Report

              Rather than ad hominems you could explain some of the interpretations we’re questioning….

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:20pm
        jameswm said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:20pm | ! Report

        Geez we copped some rough calls. Pocock copping neck rolls all night, all missed.

        BPA must have loved it.

        Pocock massive, ditto Coleman most of the time.

        • Roar Guru

          June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm
          PeterK said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm | ! Report

          why didn’t the tmo intervene on all the neck rolls against Pocock?

          • June 9th 2018 @ 11:00pm
            jameswm said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:00pm | ! Report

            Why didn’t the Aussies ask the ref to watch for it?

            • June 10th 2018 @ 2:28am
              Max said | June 10th 2018 @ 2:28am | ! Report

              I watched both the NZ game and the Brisbane game and wonder why anyone bother to go.
              The referees in both games were atrocious
              ,useless, didn’t seem to know the rules .
              Neither should be refereeing at this level. Just so bad for the game.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 8:34am
                DNZ said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:34am | ! Report

                MVDW shouldn’t be getting internationals after the red card to Folau Faingaa. That was a disgraceful game that the Brumbies won in spite of his performance.
                The sooner referees figure out we aren’t there to watch them, the better. Unfortunately that won’t be happening anytime soon.

          • June 9th 2018 @ 11:23pm
            Worlds Biggest said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:23pm | ! Report

            What about the Furlong spear on Hooper at the breakdown, that is a sin bin every day of the week. Delighted with the Wallas win as they played tough and overcame some shoddy officiating all game.

            • June 9th 2018 @ 11:28pm
              GKDA said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:28pm | ! Report

              Ok, let’s not pretend that the weird decisions went all one way. The two separate knock on decisions at the end were bizarre (replay clearly showed an Aussie hand in the ruck, and he penalised Murray, TMO has a Camera 7 that shows a Knock on but can’t show anyone else?)

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 8:25am
                soapit said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:25am | ! Report

                he must have been recording it on his phone and couldnt figure out how to upload the footage

              • June 10th 2018 @ 8:37am
                timber said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:37am | ! Report

                I thought Stander’s was a try too, while the replay didn’t show ball touching the turf, it was so close to the ground there must have been contact.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 3:55pm
                bazza200 said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:55pm | ! Report

                Never a try the was a player under the ball.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:29am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:29am | ! Report

                He penalised Murray for backchat quite rightly, I thought he swore so lucky it wasn’t a yc.

                There was both a irish hand playing the ball on the ground pushing it back and a wallaby hand doing the same, the penalty could have gone either way but probably against the wallabies.

                Once Murray spoke to the ref like that he deserved a penalty.

                Have to take the TMO on faith which the ref did on the knock on.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 4:08pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

                It was clearly an Irish foot that caused the actual knock on though.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 7:48am
              Bill said | June 10th 2018 @ 7:48am | ! Report

              Can you be speared if your in defence? Genuine question – he wasn’t carrying the ball so i dont think you can have a dangerous tackle… if you just get cleaned off the ruck and theirs arms involved is their any rules?

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:36am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:36am | ! Report

                yes lots of players have been carded for picking up players in the ruck and driving them head down , like the hooper one in this game.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 8:35am
              timber said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:35am | ! Report

              Hooper was accidentally pulled over the back of another player and landed softly, hardly a spear tackle but keep playing the victim narrative.

              • June 10th 2018 @ 9:44am
                Tom said | June 10th 2018 @ 9:44am | ! Report

                Hand between his legs, rotated past horizontal, and landed on his head. Yellow every day.

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 11:32am
                PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:32am | ! Report

                it wasn’t the player pulling Hooper but the player driving him up and over with the hand between the legs, the reserve forward (16 i think), should have been a yc.

                They never made sure Hooper was lowered safely.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 6:17am
            Coconut said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:17am | ! Report

            Because he’s a Kiwi? Is that what you wanted to hear?

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:34am
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:34am | ! Report

              I would be very surprised to think that would be the reason since a kiwi team was not involved.

              I wouldn’t think a neutral TMO would be biased in that way.

              The head / neck is supposed to be such a focus i.e all the yc’s for head high tackles yet far more dangerous neck rolls are being ignored.

              He only intervened in Hoopers one since it was also a drive onto his head as well as the neck roll.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 12:07am
          Nudge said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:07am | ! Report

          As a South Australian I find it interesting that Folau is getting virtually no credit for the win. My brother in law and I have absolutely no interest in watching even 2 mins of super rugby but are highly addictive of watching the wallabies. Don’t think we have missed a live match in15 years. To us Folau is by far the most underestimated player in Australia. He was just incredible tonight under the high ball. All the calls for him to be removed from full back and placed on the wing is surely out of line?

          • June 10th 2018 @ 12:18am
            Kurt said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:18am | ! Report

            trust me hes not underestimated when it come to his job, his one of the best in the world, but scoring trys isnt the aim its the result. sustained pressure from dominant possesion and field position is the aim. i think also alot of people now have an air of expectation from him

          • June 10th 2018 @ 2:19am
            cm said | June 10th 2018 @ 2:19am | ! Report

            As an ex-NSW South Australian who regularly watches the Waratahs, I can assure you that Izzy is highly appreciated at both Super Rugby and Test levels. However, the “give it to Izzy” mantra only works for so long in a game where every player has to do his or her bit, however unspectacular. Izzy’s sparkle is only possible if the rest of the team is doing well, and other teams are working out how to counter him anyway.

            As for playing him on the wing, I prefer to see him there, where his woeful defence at fullback is not exposed and his mediocre kicking is not such a liability but he can still make the spectacular aerial takes and line breaks that make his game so exciting.

            If you want to see more Izzy, watch the Waratahs in a few weeks’ time when the Test window is closed.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 11:37am
              PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:37am | ! Report

              his kicking is quite good now, did yet another good one against ireland

              • June 10th 2018 @ 4:10pm
                Reverse Wheel said | June 10th 2018 @ 4:10pm | ! Report

                I’m not convinced his defense is woeful either tbh.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 6:46am
            taylorman said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:46am | ! Report

            Well if you read some of them youd see why. Hes not underestimated by any means. Defensively hes positionally poor at times, so the thinking is someone could do that better while he focusses on the wing, and the more attacking elements of the game, without having to carry such a load covering the back half of the field. Its just an option that gets thrown around. Im not convinced its needed either.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:56pm
        adastra32 said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:56pm | ! Report

        If you think this one was bad, have a look at Jerome Farces in the NZ v France game….

    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:19pm
      Rouaan said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:19pm | ! Report



      • Roar Rookie

        June 9th 2018 @ 10:26pm
        Huw Tindall said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:26pm | ! Report

        Minimal musical chairs. Beale defending in the line and even put a blinder of a hit on early. Great stuff.

        • June 9th 2018 @ 10:29pm
          Reverse Wheel said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:29pm | ! Report

          Beale played like he was much bigger tonight. Apart from the ragdoll at the end. Put on some big hits and ran through some big hits.

          • June 9th 2018 @ 11:08pm
            chris cattanach said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:08pm | ! Report

            Beale had a blinder.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 12:23am
              Fin said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:23am | ! Report

              Beale looked like Pat McCabe by the end of the night. Finally delivering consistently on the hype. Long may it continue!

        • Roar Guru

          June 10th 2018 @ 11:39am
          PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:39am | ! Report

          finally tackling in position makes the defence so much better.

          The only musical chairs at set piece with Foley dropping back and Koroibete running to open side wing allowing DHP to defuse the blindside box kick, smart tactics.

    • June 9th 2018 @ 10:23pm
      Internal Fixation said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:23pm | ! Report

      Well done Cheika and co.

      Pocock proving his sabattical may have been worth it. The dominant breakdown player on the park.

      In terms of the Ref – both the Wallabies and Ireland were “robbed” a try each but both were seen and checked and the decision was fair enough in each case. Although a frustrating process of time wasting reviews it’s just something that we have to accept I suppose. Good performance overall.

      Ireland will win one but Wallabies 2-1 is my guess.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:29pm
        jameswm said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:29pm | ! Report

        Where are Ireland going to improve? Box kicking? Slowing the ball up better?

        More whinging to the ref?

        • June 9th 2018 @ 10:36pm
          Ouch said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:36pm | ! Report

          They’re pretty good at all those. Not much room for improvement

        • June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm
          Daveski said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:53pm | ! Report

          I think James like a few you are underselling them. They were troubling us at times especially in the first half with ball in hand. And comfortably recycling.

          Beale some want Furlogh running at him from minute 1 either. So with those couple of big guns starting and Murray playing better than he did tonight, yeah I think they can improve.

        • June 9th 2018 @ 11:01pm
          cinque said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:01pm | ! Report

          Maybe when they take their bibs off

        • June 10th 2018 @ 12:22am
          Dublin Dave said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:22am | ! Report

          Ireland need to play smarter. To have as much possession and territory as they did in the first half and turn around behind at half time was a travesty, but all their own fault.
          For all of my rugby watching life Australia have been the best team in the world when they don’t have the ball, and they were again this morning (it’s day time over here). Any attempts by Ireland to run the ball were smashed backwards by Aussie back defenders. How many times was Carberry nearly cut in two at the gainline?
          So what’s the answer? Fling the ball wide with reckless abandon? Hell no, that’s just what the likes of Beale and Folau want you to do. They’ll gobble up any loose pass and run it back under the posts.
          No. Ireland need to go for the drop next week. Same pressure game up front. Same setting up camp in the Aussie 22 but FFS no more charging into the Aussie defenders who are not going to suddenly tickle you through and slap you on the rump as you head for the line. That’s crazy stuff. They’re going to gobble you up, and with the likes of Pocock and Hooper, they’ll more than hold their own at the breakdown. That’s like Syria against the Israelis in the Golan in 1973, or the British walking into German machine guns on the Somme in 1916. Or Pickett’s charge at Gettysburg. Dumb Dumb Dumb.
          No. Ireland need to play Sexton from the start. He needs to “go shotgun” for the entire first half and drop goals to beat the band. i believe Jannie De Beer holds the record for a single match and it’s only five!!! Come on!! With the residence they had in the Australian 22, Sexton could have had six before half time. That’s what needs to happen next week.
          “Oh no!” the purists will squeal, like a bunch of politically correct American students triggered into apoplexy by having their feelings hurt in what should be a “safe space” for attractive rugby. “Nobody wants to watch that!”
          Don’t we?
          An Australian team 9 or 12 points down won’t have the luxury of playing “rope a dope” any more and will have to take their own risks. Which will in turn give the Irish strike runners, of whom we actually have a few, to capitalise on the extra space and opportunity.
          After all, the last time Ireland won a series in Oz nearly 40 years ago, they played resolutely 10-man rugby and still put 27 points on Australia in the first test, in the era of the four-point try.
          Series not over yet. It all depends on how the Irish use their top two inches next week.
          The smarter team won this morning. No complaints.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 8:48am
            timber said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:48am | ! Report

            Foley, Beale, and Kerevi were definitely a potential defensive weakness in the midfield which was worth a crack, it didn’t pay off today.
            All three have poor Super defensive stats but they played like men possessed today, hard to predict that.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 10:01am
            Hunters said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:01am | ! Report

            That’s just what we need to make Rugby more entertaining. A team winning through 6 or more drop goals. I get that you want a win at all costs, and that might get you a win, but it would be ugly. That would renew many people’s calls for drop goals to be worth only 1 or 2.

            • June 12th 2018 @ 12:56am
              Dublin Dave said | June 12th 2018 @ 12:56am | ! Report

              Ugly is good! Not too many pretty boys on a rugby team 🙂

          • June 10th 2018 @ 10:36am
            Craig said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:36am | ! Report

            Thoughtful comment re using the drop kick – nothing wrong with Ireland playing to an obvious strength. Melbourne will be an intriguing game – just hope the ground hold sup this time.

          • Roar Guru

            June 10th 2018 @ 11:49am
            PeterK said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:49am | ! Report

            if ireland did score using a drop goal they would not have had as much residence in the 22, the play would go back to a restart.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 3:22pm
            SP said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:22pm | ! Report

            “the Irish strike runners, of whom we actually have a few,”

            Really? Don’t see it myself.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 11:55pm
            double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:55pm | ! Report

            Impressive article Dublin Dave till you mentioned drop goals. I put on my tin foil hat then.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 1:03am
          Matt said | June 10th 2018 @ 1:03am | ! Report

          Playing their full strength team will help.

          The Wallabies were the better team today but the Irish have been better over the last year or so, as reflected in the rankings.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:35pm
        Kangas said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:35pm | ! Report

        The reviews of tries in rugby or league or goals in soccer is just incredibly frustrating and time wasting..

        • June 9th 2018 @ 11:03pm
          cinque said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:03pm | ! Report

          At least the League bunker is faster. The TMO meddling in the 82nd minute was petty. Give them their try.

          • June 10th 2018 @ 11:57pm
            double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:57pm | ! Report

            Not sure it is faster. It’s definitely more horrible.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 12:25am
          Fin said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:25am | ! Report

          I found the “injury time” slowing down by Ireland the most frustrating.

          • June 11th 2018 @ 8:21pm
            jameswm said | June 11th 2018 @ 8:21pm | ! Report

            Every scrum, 2-3 Irish injured needing attention. NOt sure what the ref can do though.

        • June 10th 2018 @ 12:56am
          Pickett said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:56am | ! Report

          Agree but at least in League, Soccer and pretty much every other sport once the referee acknowledges the score, that’s it. In union, the referee will award it, but 2 minutes later the TMO could easily over rule him. I mean where do you draw the line as to when to review then? 2 minutes? 20 minutes? 2 weeks? Can a whole match be annulled? This is setting extremely dangerous precedents.

          • Roar Rookie

            June 10th 2018 @ 10:16am
            Paulo said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:16am | ! Report

            Once the conversion has been taken. That’s why you might see some kickers quickly trying to knock one out to stop a review. Refs normally hold then up if they think something is suss.

            This is the same in League, so not sure you have the correct info there. I’ve seen Cam Smith come and stand in front of the goal kicker to prevent a conversion and force the ref to review a try. Got it overturned too.

            • Roar Guru

              June 10th 2018 @ 6:50pm
              soapit said | June 10th 2018 @ 6:50pm | ! Report

              think youve got your wires crossed in league there. dont spose youve got a link to your example?

            • June 10th 2018 @ 10:59pm
              Pickett said | June 10th 2018 @ 10:59pm | ! Report

              Never seen that happen in League. Ref might ask tmo for review before he gives the try, but once he points to the ground and blows the whistle, thats it. Try is irreversible.
              Quite the opposite in union which creates a farcical situation.

      • June 9th 2018 @ 10:39pm
        somer said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:39pm | ! Report

        Yeah, bizarre calls on both occasions, a ridiculous try reversal and I thought the replay showed Stander had grounded the ball.

        • Roar Rookie

          June 9th 2018 @ 10:55pm
          tsuru said | June 9th 2018 @ 10:55pm | ! Report

          I believe the decision was for a knock-on at the ruck before Stander got the ball.

          • June 9th 2018 @ 11:02pm
            Reverse Wheel said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:02pm | ! Report

            I think he’s talking about the one at the start of the second half. There was no clear vision of the ball in the ground, the tmo couldn’t overturn the on field decision.

            • June 9th 2018 @ 11:05pm
              cinque said | June 9th 2018 @ 11:05pm | ! Report

              Yes, touchie opined “held up”. Should have said “Buggered if I know”

              • Roar Guru

                June 10th 2018 @ 8:28am
                soapit said | June 10th 2018 @ 8:28am | ! Report

                they went up with “try no try” so basically they did

          • June 10th 2018 @ 12:00am
            Dublin Dave said | June 10th 2018 @ 12:00am | ! Report

            I think you might be talking about the Irish “try” by Marmion in stoppage time that was called back for a knock on. Stander’s effort was clearly disallowed for not grounding because the Irish were given a 5m scrum.
            In Marmion’s case, the TMO clearly told the ref “On my technology there is a very definite knock on by Irish number 7”. Whatever technology it was it wasn’t made available to the TV producer that we had because we weren’t let see it.
            Not that it would have made any difference.

            • June 10th 2018 @ 3:42pm
              cuw said | June 10th 2018 @ 3:42pm | ! Report

              ” In Marmion’s case, the TMO clearly told the ref “On my technology there is a very definite knock on by Irish number 7”. Whatever technology it was it wasn’t made available to the TV producer that we had because we weren’t let see it. ”

              this is a new development in the TMO thingy.

              i think in one match last week a try was disallowed for a foot in touch.

              the interesting part was the TMO said ” I have the split-screen facility , so i can see the foot in touch before the ball is grounded “.

              it was not shown on the normal TV visuals.

              it will be interesting to know how this came about – that the TMO can rule using visuals that a ref will not see.

              anything is fine as far as he protocol is clear to all.

              the way 3rd umpire is used by cricket is one nivce example. now we can even hear the conversation between ump and 3rd-ump and the decision making process.

              Perestroika and Glasnost plz 😀

        • June 10th 2018 @ 11:59pm
          double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:59pm | ! Report

          Placing the ball on DHP’s knee is not grounding the ball.

      • June 10th 2018 @ 11:51pm
        double agent said | June 10th 2018 @ 11:51pm | ! Report

        I confess straight up – I’ve had a few beers. Struggling to remember Ireland being robbed of a try. Surely you don’t mean CJ Stander?? Clearly held up.

        • June 12th 2018 @ 12:59am
          Dublin Dave said | June 12th 2018 @ 12:59am | ! Report

          Marmion’s “try” in the last move of the game was disallowed for something the TMO saw on one of his machines but for some reason the TV producer didn’t have access to it because we didn’t get to see it.

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