AFL must give Blues priority pick: Denis Pagan

By Jason Phelan, Jason Phelan is a Roar Guru

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    Carlton say they don’t want a priority draft pick, but so dire is their predicament, the AFL should go ahead and give them one anyway.

    So says Denis Pagan, at least.

    Pagan knows all too well the sort of pain the last-placed Blues are in having been the coach when the league imposed huge salary cap breach penalties that the club still hasn’t recovered from in his opinion.

    Stripped of early draft picks and fined nearly $1 million, Carlton didn’t finish higher than 11th from 2003 to 2007, when Pagan was sacked after round 16.

    The Blues have made finals appearances since, but are anchored at the bottom of the ladder approaching the end of the third season of Brendon Bolton’s extensive list rebuild.

    Pagan thinks Carlton are five or six years away from climbing out of the mire and should take any help they can get.

    “I can understand Carlton not asking (for a pick) – you don’t want to be seen as a sook or whingers – but the AFL have got to intervene,” Pagan told SEN.

    “They intervene when they need to or want to and they should intervene there and say, ‘We’re going to give you a pick’. I don’t think anyone else would begrudge it.

    “I just think Carlton’s penalties have had a far greater effect than anyone would have perceived.

    “… those penalties were really draconian.”

    The Blues and Bolton came in for stinging criticism after the weekend’s heavy loss to fellow strugglers Brisbane, consigned them to a 1-14 record – the worst in the club’s history.

    The 65-point drubbing at the Gabba has left the club two games adrift at the bottom of ladder and headed for the wooden spoon.

    Despite the apparent lack of progress, Pagan said it is imperative the club stays unified behind Bolton.

    “I feel sorry for Brendon Bolton – it’s a battle he can’t win at the moment,” he said.

    “I see him in press conferences and I think ‘Poor bloke, having to come up and face that when the reality is he’s losing players left, right and centre’.

    “… I’ve seen coaches at Carlton get blamed for what’s happening and it’s a much bigger picture than that. Everyone involved at the club has got to take some responsibility.

    “I’ve never seen any coach make strawberry jam out of cow manure.”

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    • July 11th 2018 @ 12:55am
      Scott said | July 11th 2018 @ 12:55am | ! Report

      Someone should remind pagan those penalties are for cheating. They managed to land the best player in the game in 2007 and for a while their had a very good list that wasn’t quite good enough. They are about to get one of the best draft prospects ever so there certainly isn’t any need for priority picks. The youngsters will come on.

    • Roar Rookie

      July 11th 2018 @ 1:56am
      Martin said | July 11th 2018 @ 1:56am | ! Report

      Pagan makes a good case for Carlton to receive a priority pick and so I tend to agree with him. It’s unfortunate when a whole club is penalised for something which was probably done by only a few individuals.

    • Roar Guru

      July 11th 2018 @ 2:27am
      Pumping Dougie said | July 11th 2018 @ 2:27am | ! Report

      Firstly, Carlton won a flag in 1995 with a squad that was proven only a few years later to be cheating the salary cap. So a two decade hiatus from success is a fair penalty for seemingly cheating their way to a flag (long after other clubs ceased the practise). It’s called karma.

      Secondly, whilst Brisbane draw sympathy for their plight trying to succeed in a rugby market, Carlton can only blame themselves. They can’t keep blaming penalties served 16 years ago. Their plight 16 years ago was due largely to the poor leadership of an arrogant, corrupt president who had a chequered corporate career. But that’s old news. Their recent plight is due to successive management regimes who performed poorly. I think their current management shows the first signs of knowing how to operate.

      They can build a team around young stars Cripps and Curnow. Unfortunately for them, Simpson, Murphy and Kreuzer will likely retire in the next couple of years, but at least they are adopting the right approach now.

      Love Pagan’s line that “you can’t make strawberry jam from cow manure”. Malthouse would no doubt concur with that one.

      • Roar Guru

        July 11th 2018 @ 10:40am
        Col from Brissie said | July 11th 2018 @ 10:40am | ! Report

        Dougie, I know you like to bang on about the 1995 premiership being tarnished but the breaches related to the period between 1998 and 2001. There were no breaches during the 1995 season.

        • Roar Guru

          July 11th 2018 @ 11:17am
          Paul Dawson said | July 11th 2018 @ 11:17am | ! Report

          I thought the only side that won a flag with a side that breached the cap was Essendon in 1993

        • Roar Guru

          July 11th 2018 @ 11:18am
          Paul Dawson said | July 11th 2018 @ 11:18am | ! Report

          Sorry, 1993

    • Roar Guru

      July 11th 2018 @ 7:50am
      DingoGray said | July 11th 2018 @ 7:50am | ! Report

      “I never seen any coach make strawberry jam out of cow manure”

      Outstanding line!!!!!

    • Roar Guru

      July 11th 2018 @ 8:05am
      Peter the Scribe said | July 11th 2018 @ 8:05am | ! Report

      The average number of years an AFL player has is 6 years. The last thing the Blues fans need to hear is that they are 5-6 years away from climbing out of the mire. That would surely finish them off. 5 year rebuilds are a lie in this current era, a lie sold to keep a club generating fan membership money. The Blues are the same sleeping giant that Richmond was. Their fans will return but no more ridiculous 5 year plans. New coach for 2019, super aggressive off season. Land Shiels or Gaff, Fasolo and a host of other experienced leaders, go all out for Horse Longmire and start 2019 with hope of 8-10th.

    • Roar Guru

      July 11th 2018 @ 8:24am
      Paul Dawson said | July 11th 2018 @ 8:24am | ! Report

      If the standard priority pick was around pick 19 and came at the end of the first round, I wouldn’t have an issue with the AFL handing that out to whichever club it thought needed it most each and every year

      I think anyone still wanting to see Carlton suffer has apprehended bias they’re either not admitting to – or displaying openly and don’t care that they are

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