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Dalgety Carrington

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Oh yeah, there should be the starting mantra for the video reviewers that “Only make a call to overturn the umpires call if you’re 100% sure. Any doubt chuck the review out.” The AFL should communicate the minimalist nature of it and that mistakes will happen. We should all make a pact to accept it ain’t gonna be perfect or even anywhere near it.

But we have had the background of a Goldilocks chorus of “the review’s taking too long/it’s happening too fast” all wrapped up in general intolerance for a fair while now, with more recent examples of mind explosions and overwrought scrutiny of relatively minor mistakes in the past 3-4 weeks. None of that makes getting a clean run at learning from mistakes easier.

Gerard Whateley calls for immediate end to current AFL score review system

There’s always a human element at some point so errors are always going to be present. Fans and media can easily get too error-focused and have brain explosions when they do (hence we can get in a cycle of over-reaction/over-correction). We’re not going to get perfection.

I think the principle that you stick with the umpires call, with a score review going on conclusive evidence to overturn, that’s something we should be able to live with.

Sure that may not always happen to the level we hope, but say the example of the Mayne “touch” of a few weeks back, no harm no foul as nothing changed if the system wasn’t in place. While having the review system in place it continues to allow some picking up some of the more obvious errors.

Saying it should be scrapped is a bit sanctimonious and seems more a sign of cantankerousness. A more reasoned approach is to see what it does bring and trying to continue to build the value elements that are part of that.

Gerard Whateley calls for immediate end to current AFL score review system

Can a fictional entity get evicted from the footy?

Love your sidestepping style. Still maintaining your longstanding record of not denying it I see.

Make the AFL a safer place for everyone

Nah. There was just one too many punch-ons between spectators, I’d say this was a reaction to that. It’s not that hard to act civilly out in a public place for most, rule confusion or no.

Make the AFL a safer place for everyone

Or just a Jon Barron-fictional type, trying to cover your tracks eh?

Make the AFL a safer place for everyone

I could almost guarantee you that anonboy was not at Optus yesterday and it’s all a fabrication.

Five talking points from AFL Round 13

Good on you adhering to your own code of respect, but surely you’re kidding us with that “Baby-Boomer” respect malarky?

I remember going to WAFL games with my old man and hearing plenty of abuse between rival groups of fans, occasionally spilling out into a bit of a punch-on. All Baby Boomers or older.

Why the AFL is right to remove abusive spectators

The wording of this law was always a problem, but all up the way most people were looking at the Toby Greene incident was always likely to lead to this sort of situation happening. Sometimes you just got to wear some studs in the guts. The way Natainui crashed into Sandlinads back fracturing his ribs was 20x worse than the Greene blocking with his foot incidents, but other than hoping for basic honour, it’s very hard to police with costing some key parts of our game.

Outrage as Jeremy Howe robbed of a hanger by the 'Toby Greene rule'

I saw a doco out at a WA Day event just the other day on Polly Farmer. The Krakouer brothers have had a book and I’m sure a doco here and there.

I’m not sure what you’re on about with linking the aboriginal struggle with the “rewarded” thing? It almost sounds like you’re saying he got those awards because he was aboriginal or that they pay things off in some way?

AFL apologises for failures in Goodes saga

Haha, anon s “analysis” there is as shallow as it gets as doesn’t take much getting. As is so often the case, he’s trying to take the specific and make it general, which is a logically flawed position.

I reckon name-calling and attacking people in made-up lumped-together groups you go for there is exactly the sort of thing that doesn’t help.

AFL apologises for failures in Goodes saga

I thought the point was all in there.

Essentially I’d be better able to decide whether I agree with it if I had more detail on how they worked it out. Whenever I have seen how draw ratings are worked they tend to miss metrics that can be key factors in draw/game difficulty for any one side.

Just looking at the WC’s draw so far, it’s surprising that it would rate as the most difficult. To be definitive I’d need to look at the draws across everyone more comprehensively, but even the Dee’s seems more hard core at a glance.

Numbers game: Which teams will rise and fall in the second half of 2019?

Average age still tells a valid story. –
I haven’t crunched the numbers in detail for this year as yet, maybe not as young as they were last year, but still plenty of youth and inexperience in the game mix.

From what I’ve seen though, Freo are still running around with 7 or 8 players under 50 games experience on game day. That’s a comparatively high number in the AFL. So it’s not just average age.

Nevertheless, certainly young in comparison to the advanced age average of the WC.

Numbers game: Which teams will rise and fall in the second half of 2019?

It’d be interesting to see exactly how they’ve formulated those ratings. So far the WC draw has included the Suns, Port at home, young sides in Freo, Bulldogs, Saints, their favourite road trip to play the Crows and a struggling Dees. Hardly seems gruelling.

Of course rating a draw difficulty for any particular team is a very very inexact science using most standard methods anyways, given all the variables involved.

Numbers game: Which teams will rise and fall in the second half of 2019?

You could argue that Voss has much more development potential following on from his first stint as a coach than Ratten does.

After Voss was thrown to the Lions, figuratively and literally, in his first gig there was very little opportunity to fully hone his chops as a coach. He has shown a willingness to take a more considered approach, going into the assistants system and having a much better development opportunity to establish a coherent coaching philosophy.

There’s a good case to say that the primary thing that derailed Voss’ time in charge was a coaching immaturity and he since has taken opportunities to get due seasoning.

Whether he throws his hat in the ring or not for any senior vacancies, Voss should probably look to head to another club at the end of the year anyways.

His development would benefit from exposure to another system under an experienced coach. The Hawks would be ideal image-wise as much as anything else, but Geelong, Richmond or even Freo would give him exposure to a broader range of approaches to round out his education.

Should Michael Voss get another head coaching job?

More mirth from anon (who supports the Crows btw). The WC missed the finals from 2008-10, including a last and second last placing. Adelaide hasn’t won a premiership since the 90’s, so they might want to consider a rebuild if they don’t actually do them (although the patch between 2010-14 aint that flash, penalties notwithstanding). Geelong also missed the finals between 2001-03.

Brendon Bolton was crucified to save SOS's sins

“Honesty is the best policy chief.”.
Hahahaha….gasp … Hahahahaha….

Bolton booted: Carlton sack third senior coach in eight years

Maybe the Blooz should mend some bridges with a certain ex-coach, allow Bolton to see out the year until the moratorium for assistant coaches lifts and enable the fairytale scurrying of Ratten back in the door.

Which AFL coach should be the next to go?

Womp womp womp…Grumpy Old Man Alert…womp womp womp

The AFL’s administration has failed and it must be changed

It beggars belief with a shallow analysis, at a closer look Fyfe’s arm first made contact with the upper arm of Lynch which resulted in it slipping up. Hence Lynch was barely impacted by the contact.

Fyfe does tend to brace more with his arm extended, quite possibly due to his history with shoulder issues, it’s a pretty ordinary technique meaning more potential for these kinds of incidences. But you also see just before Lynch knocks it away, Fyfe extending his arm out for the ball.

The AFL’s administration has failed and it must be changed

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, the decision was a fair interpretation under the rules as they stand and I just don’t think what Rampe did is that big a deal at all.

Although I can also see why they want to discourage it (even though players leaping off goal posts adds a bit of theatre, it’s probably too far out there).

The AFL’s administration has failed and it must be changed

Abandoned the positive articles intention for the year already Ryan?

The reason why footy games don’t get celebrated as much, as it’s early in the season crucialness cycle, is because there’s more mileage in controversy, real or imagined and the AFL’s a big sport and big business for not just the AFL but for the media too. It’s also far easier to be critical than it is to find the positive and celebrate it.

The AFL’s administration has failed and it must be changed

Haha says the WC fan whose team has headed the frees for/frees against differentials for over a decade.

Fyfe, Ablett cleared by MRO

He actually bounced up off his upper arm, that and the ball was in play between them until Lynch knocked it on, paired with the minor impact the decision has some supporting logic.

Fyfe, Ablett cleared by MRO

Don’s free to do it, but it’s a pretty pointless exercise, other than to feed negative perceptions. It’s not going to convince anyone. Every supporter will have a higher awareness of their own team’s injuries and others complaining about their own teams’ won’t cut through (unless there’s some definitive statistical evidence to back it up).

There's only one AFL team we can trust with seven rounds in the books

C’mon anonboy, embrace your puppetality.

Boo-merang: Why booing will always return

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